Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

And record it!

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Not just freezing, but hard on the feet day in, day out (speaking from experience!).

Whats this on Simon 'The Pointer' Stepsys paychecks - Bank of America?

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?Are YOU Ready To Join My Success Team & EARN a Multiple Six Figure Income? (maybe even 7 Figures)?

Edit: Oh, thats probably from EmpowerNetwork.

Have you noticed how the dates are all the same? He must have special treatment...

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A hive of activity....but then they probably aren't used to so much snow!

Latest information (source: BB Iceland)

Friday Q&A Banners Broker Webinar 15 Feb 2013

Chris Smith speaking:

Exciting times. UK Tour coming soon. Lots of hard work to make this happen. We appreciate this. Introduce again, Martin Wilde.

Martin Wilde speaking:

Only 32 tickets left for the Gala. When those are gone, no more tickets. Thank you all for your support. Did the menu tasting yesterday, and I was very impressed.
Saturday begins at 10:00 AM. Parking may be limited on that day. There are many reserved places, but Sunday will be more available. Get there early to register for parking. There is parking close to the grounds if the grounds are full
Friday is a FREE event to bring your guests along. Hope to see lots of you at the UK Tour.

Chris speaking again:

Updates:

Payouts - all pending requests through December has been cleared up. anyone whose account was in the negative were not paid. If your account was locked, your payout was not paid. These requests were put on hold. We have now paid out to all pending from 2012 or we have reversed it back into your eWallet.

Allied Wallet - any missing fundings have been reversed and should be nback on your card.

January Payouts for the BB Card, you will see payouts over the weekend and we will be close to getting 100% close. The sync you see when you log in is BB syncing with Vector to make sure all cards are properly ordered, activated, etcetera.

We are not caught up through end of December for all over the world. We are now catching up for January and then you will begin seeing the payouts done within the correct timeframe.

The BB cards are the future. Once this is all synced, it will work great.

Payza - we have cleaned up all accounts for everyone. Now we will make the payouts happen over the weekend.

US BANK DEPOSITS == sent out on a daily basis. Each one is handled separately, each bank has a different process. These are happening daily. This option is now removed, as well as STP and Payza. BB Card will be used in the future.

Exciting times ahead for BB.

Version 2.9 updates:

Launch date is still Feb. 19th
at 10:00 AM site will go down for the switchover for several hours. This will be on your dashboard. When site comes back, it will be Version 2.9.

New Membership type - Executive
New Package for sale
New Panel for sale
Traffic Boosters price lowered for Executive
Phone support for Executives will begin.. this will be a new and separate number.
New fees for Phone Support will be in effect:
standard - $7 per question
premium - 1 free/week - $5 additional
executive - FREE on new Line, $25 if you call the old line.

These fees are not to penalize you, but to encourage people to use the ticket system and only use phone for very important matters.

Our support tickets are now on a daily turnaround basis. Worst case scenario is 48 hours. Same day or next day for all tickets.

Grandfather Clause -

10-29 Traffic Packs

1. If you add any TP's you will auto upgrade to Executive.

If you don't have a black panel, then you will need to get one, in this case, and be upgraded to Executive.

2. If you withdraw over $10,000 in any calendar month.

Allocation of traffic explained.

What happens to current traffic?? Very important. If you currently havce actual sales credits, then your sales credit banks will be the same, split into 7 colors. i.e., if you had enough to qualify 10 greens, that will still be there.

For Purchased traffic, you will see a table for allocating. This is for ALL NON-SALES TRAFFIC. You will need to allocate it into the banks. This is so the traffic will sit in the correct color bank. you will see this when you log in for 2.9

Q: if I have 3 million in General traffic, will I have to allocate when I first log in?

You are not forced to do it immediately, and go to any page within back office, but cannot use your traffic until it's allocated.

Q: Purpose of allocated traffic?

We are going to 28 traffic banks.. 7 colors, 4 types of traffic, so in order to use it, you need to put it in the bank then withdraw it to qualify panels. Before it was just one bank, now they are separate. There will be 4 different banks for each color.. total 28

Q: I don't understand how to guess where we will need it?

Just let it sit until you need it, then allocate it wherever you want and use it.

Q: What happens with members over 10 TPs wil they now pay $500?

you will fall into the grandfather clause under 30, until you add more.

Updates:

Your sales credits will not affect your allowance any longer. It is limitless. Has no limits. This is now totally separate,

only Traffic Pack credits will affect your limits. It can also be split half and half. Traffic limit increases and decreases based on Traffic Pack credits only.

Organic does not affect the limit.
It is limitless also.

Q: How do we get profile on internet for Executive? it will all be in your back office.

Q: Can we add banners on our new profiles? Yes, you can.

Q: Is there anything you cannot disclose? We will give you the rules to do or not do.

Q: Can we write our own content? Yes.

Profiles will be live on the Internet.

Q: Organic traffic hits not working? Version 2.9 has addressed this issue.

Q: Should we use sales credits now? it will not matter. Your sales credits will not change.

Q: Panels are very slow.

Depends on Internet traffic, so waht are you comparing this to? There is no timeframe for any particular color panel.

Support is answering tickets very rapidly. This is improving daily.

We will have another webinar and training and videos for 2.9 and how it works, so expect those online or we will post them on your dashboard.

All leaders, IC's, the people making BB work and the people who work for BB, we are changing a lot on the internet, we are changing people's lives. It has been touching to hear all the stories. I am proud to be a part of this. Please join us in the UK.

Have a fantastic weekend. Talk soon

end of webinar

Originally Posted by Finix

Playing games with people who play games for a living? Guess who is going to win. Don't play games, sit quietly and take a lot of pictures.

If I knew nothing about BB and went there thinking it was a legit opportunity, I still would have a list of questions.

If I ask one question that raises a doubt in the mind of one other attendee, then I win.

Originally Posted by noname999

If I knew nothing about BB and went there thinking it was a legit opportunity, I still would have a list of questions.

If I ask one question that raises a doubt in the mind of one other attendee, then I win.

Looks like you are set on finding things out by doing them. Good luck :)

'Launch date is still Feb. 19th
at 10:00 AM site will go down for the switchover for several hours. This will be on your dashboard. When site comes back, it will be Version 2.9.'

Why do they launch at 10.00am and why does it take so long to switch? Maybe thats the day for the handover of there state of the art new offices?/Lots of people to train in BB BS obviously takes time.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Phone support for Executives will begin.. this will be a new and separate number.
New fees for Phone Support will be in effect:
standard - $7 per question
premium - 1 free/week - $5 additional
executive - FREE on new Line, $25 if you call the old line.

Of course there will be "teething troubles" with the new number, making those who have been forced to upgrade to Executive pay $25 a time...

Originally Posted by Theseus

From this picture I can conclude that either...

a) Stepsys doesn't know the meaning of "it's snowing, dress appropriately"

or

b) he only owns one suit and one stripy shi(r)t

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or c) he's an arsehole

Ole septic simon sooooooo thinks he's don juan.

This may be a question asked before but I'm new here so forgive my stupidity... but, WHY are BB using Stellarpoint anyway? Stellarpoint are (supposedly) an international virtual reality office space rental company, BB are (supposedly) a multi milion dollar cash rich company...guess they are subscibing to the $500 a month executive package then.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

but, WHY are BB using Stellarpoint anyway?

I think a more relevant question would be: "are they doing any of what they claim to be doing"

What is there about the whole Banners Broker story that is provably "real" ??

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Yes, I noticed that all the visitors kept their coats on.

And as Brenda pointed out, where's the trunking for computer cables, telephones, electrics, etc? Someone else has noted the shortage of chairs too.

And where's the sound proofing? In a call centre with all those hard surfaces, the noise won't half bounce around. It'll be bedlam in there.

Well......it would be IF it was really going to be a call centre, which somehow I very much doubt. Some people will believe anything, won't they?

Oh, wait a bit.....

Chairs??....Do you have any idea how much extra it would have cost for BB to hire a bunch of chairs for the day??....

Trunking??....That's like asking me why I don't have a runway in my back yard??.....I don't have a plane so I don't need a runway....
BB got no phones and no computers so why would they need trunking??...

Originally Posted by Rebel

Louds more photos posted by simon stepsys on flikr. Maybe somebody could save them all just in case they disappear.
Camera Roll-2170 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

I hope someone did save them, because when I clicked on the link just now all I got was "page not found".

Pity - they were most informative..........perhaps that's why they went?

Still, some of them are saved right here!

Re Simple Simon "the Finger" Scepsis;

Has anyone forwarded the fotos of him and his cheques, his millions of earnings, his ring, his porsche, his watch, his website etc. to the appropriate tax authority? If not,then why not? If all this is genuinely legitimate, and he is genuinely not only earning such huge amounts of taxable income but is apparantly having no problems at all taking those huge earnings out in cash to buy very expensive toys, then I have to make the assumption that he is an honest person and has declared these huge earnings and cash and toys to the tax authorities and has paid his taxes on all of it. This being the case, he could have no objection to someone providing this information to the tax authorities as I am sure he would be grateful just in case he missed declaring some minor amounts?

Do you mean via this U.K. Government Tax Evasion Hotline website

You are here:Reporting Fraud

Tax Evasion Hotline - Information report form guide

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Enter as much information as you can on the form. Details such as times or dates, regularity of occurrence, amounts involved and anything else you think may be helpful are all useful.
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Thanks Littleroundman, but do we actually know that he has evaded taxes? We might suspect, but we do not know. He might have fully declared and paid taxes on his earnings for all we know.
Would this therefore be the correct route if we do not know whether evasion has taken place?
What is the law on paying taxes on illegal earnings in the UK. Here in Switzerland, the tax authorities don't care if your earnings are illegal as long as you declare and pay taxes on said illegal earnings (caveat: that used to be the case, not sure if things changed in the meantime).

Originally Posted by SwissSkyBlue

Thanks Littleroundman, but do we actually know that he has evaded taxes? We might suspect, but we do not know. He might have fully declared and paid taxes on his earnings for all we know.
Would this therefore be the correct route if we do not know whether evasion has taken place?
What is the law on paying taxes on illegal earnings in the UK. Here in Switzerland, the tax authorities don't care if your earnings are illegal as long as you declare and pay taxes on said illegal earnings (caveat: that used to be the case, not sure if things changed in the meantime).

if evasion has not taken place, then there is no problem, he has nothing to worry about right?

as an aside, recieved an email with a .biz address which I've never seen before, is this bogey? Haven't opened it yet.

Hello all, I've been lurking here since October so thought I ought to be polite and make greetings...
I'm a lucky avoider of BB. Had a referral last May which I didn't follow up due to lack of cash but I've been observing with interest ever since. I happened upon this thread and thanks to your efforts have decided not to waste my money. I have around 20 friends and acquaintences who are involved and I've resisted quite a lot of pressure to join, but I thought any scheme that attracts this kind of publicity isn't one I want to be involved in. I have no business knowledge and no understanding of internet advertising - like most of the people I know who've joined - but to me it just didn't smell right...
Anyway, I'll sign off with something that has just popped up on my Facebook newsfeed. I hope you find it entertaining...

***

This is good.
I know all about the neg stuff posted on the internet about Banners Broker. All of it is totally false and ill-informed claims. Let me tell you why. And I will be extremely honest here....

I am in a program that have been on international tours for a few years now. The one thing that separates this from other businesses is it's transparency. The world tours is Wide Open for anyone in the world to attend. The world tours is Wide Open to meet the owners and their families, personally. And the world tour is Wide Open for the public to experience first-hand the business module and the compensation. These kinds of transparent programs are truly legal in every sense. I think you are wise enough to understand why this is so.

But on the internet there is no justice. They can hide their identities. They can hide behind emails and domains. They can claim any program a scam based on others telling others. They can take your money and not need to answer to members, or refund. They can close the sites, run and open another. Basically, they can do just about anything and not be liable - that is the internet! And the likely chance that you are in one or more of these programs is good (or bad).

I like the idea that this program is transparent for the world to see. I like the idea that we can meet them and they answer our questions. I like the idea that they have world tours a few times a year. I like the idea that they have live daily call-in webinars. I like the idea that affiliates help one another, 24/7. [This help by unselfish affiliates helping affiliates is mutual and hard to find these days]. It doesn't matter whether you are a master guru, super recruiter or an expert marketer ... everyone is equal.

Banners Broker is not about money, money, money or me, me, me.... it is about everyone helping everyone succeed.

***

Here's something from the BB Blogspot:

February 14, 2013

Hey Everybody,

2013 is off to a stupendous start and we couldn't be happier with how our 3rd year of operation is off and running.

We were just came in 3rd place for the Top Direct Selling Companies in the World for 2013, which is astounding to have achieved in only our third year of operation. This is even more impressive considering some of the well respected and established companies we finished ahead of. You can see the result here The Top Direct Selling Companies In The World In 2013. Thanks so much to all of our incredible affiliates for getting on there and showing their support for this great company, BBI.


As for news around the rest of the world we are happy to announce that in India we now have a proper payout solution for all of our Indian affiliates. STP in India has been totally caught up on all payouts and bank account wires as well.

Stellar Point has also done a tremendous job and has worked diligently to catch up on outstanding tickets. Now that they have caught up they will now be able to respond to all tickets the same day they are sent in, which is the service level we know that you as loyal affiliates expect and deserve.

That's all for now,

Thanks Everybody

Now, I don't want to seem a dimwit, so apologise in advance, but......how have they "won" this direct selling "award" if they are merely a broker of advertising space? That's not direct selling, is it? Or is it? I'm new to all this stuff, but I thought Avon was direct selling, and with Avon you at least can buy a lipstick, but what product are you buying directly from BB?

Perhaps I need a lie down.....

Originally Posted by Skink

Hello all, I've been lurking here since October so thought I ought to be polite and make greetings...
I'm a lucky avoider of BB. Had a referral last May which I didn't follow up due to lack of cash but I've been observing with interest ever since. I happened upon this thread and thanks to your efforts have decided not to waste my money. I have around 20 friends and acquaintences who are involved and I've resisted quite a lot of pressure to join, but I thought any scheme that attracts this kind of publicity isn't one I want to be involved in. I have no business knowledge and no understanding of internet advertising - like most of the people I know who've joined - but to me it just didn't smell right...
Anyway, I'll sign off with something that has just popped up on my Facebook newsfeed. I hope you find it entertaining...

***

This is good.
I know all about the neg stuff posted on the internet about Banners Broker. All of it is totally false and ill-informed claims. Let me tell you why. And I will be extremely honest here....

I am in a program that have been on international tours for a few years now. The one thing that separates this from other businesses is it's transparency. The world tours is Wide Open for anyone in the world to attend. The world tours is Wide Open to meet the owners and their families, personally. And the world tour is Wide Open for the public to experience first-hand the business module and the compensation. These kinds of transparent programs are truly legal in every sense. I think you are wise enough to understand why this is so.

But on the internet there is no justice. They can hide their identities. They can hide behind emails and domains. They can claim any program a scam based on others telling others. They can take your money and not need to answer to members, or refund. They can close the sites, run and open another. Basically, they can do just about anything and not be liable - that is the internet! And the likely chance that you are in one or more of these programs is good (or bad).

I like the idea that this program is transparent for the world to see. I like the idea that we can meet them and they answer our questions. I like the idea that they have world tours a few times a year. I like the idea that they have live daily call-in webinars. I like the idea that affiliates help one another, 24/7. [This help by unselfish affiliates helping affiliates is mutual and hard to find these days]. It doesn't matter whether you are a master guru, super recruiter or an expert marketer ... everyone is equal.

Banners Broker is not about money, money, money or me, me, me.... it is about everyone helping everyone succeed.

***

Hi Skink, welcome to RS.

I gather by 'wide open', they mean transparent / for anyone to see. BB is so transparent that it turned a white man black and then wiped anything that could be found on him, good bad or indifferent clean off the internet!

I'd be nervous of that bunch ;)

Originally Posted by Della Cate

I hope someone did save them, because when I clicked on the link just now all I got was "page not found".

Pity - they were most informative..........perhaps that's why they went?

Still, some of them are saved right here!

You mean these?

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Only one question so far. Come on guys...

PM me with what you have.

or these...?

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or these...?

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