Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Finix

What are money laundering laws in the U.K. like? The Allied Wallet seems to be gaining popularity with scams and has HQ in London according to their website

https://www.alliedwallet.com/support/contact-us/

Put it this way, even if BB was legit and an affiliate was merely taking money out via the BB card (or by any other method) and failing to declare it then it is classed as money laundering and that leaves the perpetrator wide open to having their money/assets seized under the Proceeds of Crime Act.

The address Allied Wallet give as their "London HQ" is just a serviced office, i.e. a mail drop.

Originally Posted by DevaEboracum

Is there any evidence yet of people going to the Manchester (Bolton) World Tour event to liven it up a bit...authorities, media, hacked off affiliates etc?

The two reporters who did the Mirror piece were messaged last week informing them that Manchester was coming up, and perhaps they might like to try to determine just who 'Chris Smith' is. They replied with a 'Thanks for the tip'...

Originally Posted by Finix

What sort of responses did you get from them? Promises to look into it and then nothing? Everyone is happy to get a cut of the profits? Any merchants dropped BB as a result of being informed of its activities?

Not money merchants, but Eventbrite stopped hosting their meetings pretty quick once they were given some pointers! I noticed the other day a couple of small meetings were listed back on there, but they appear to have gone again.

Originally Posted by silly sally

Can someone quickly post a screenshot of this? This kid is involved in BB. Repeated withdrawals (in USD) directly from eWallet to business checking account. Does this look like a BB interface?

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And...the SEC may or may not have received a complaint this evening. Admins, keep an eye out for US authorities peeking at this thread. :D

Originally Posted by silly sally

And...the SEC may or may not have received a complaint this evening. Admins, keep an eye out for US authorities peeking at this thread. :D

SEC is busy with other stuff , they were approving 2013 budget today :)

And don't expect SEC to act, you would be surprised how many complaints they receive per day and no man-power to act on them, thanks to budget cuts.
they have to pick the "winners" - something which is easy target for them.

You will have a better chance going to Secret Service, those guys dont have much to do and willing to prove themselves useful.

Originally Posted by Hypanor

The two reporters who did the Mirror piece were messaged last week informing them that Manchester was coming up, and perhaps they might like to try to determine just who 'Chris Smith' is. They replied with a 'Thanks for the tip'...

Which may mean that they plan on being there.....Well I hope it means that...))

Originally Posted by NikSam

SEC is busy with other stuff , they were approving 2013 budget today :)

And don't expect SEC to act, you would be surprised how many complaints they receive per day and no man-power to act on them, thanks to budget cuts.
they have to pick the "winners" - something which is easy target for them.

You will have a better chance going to Secret Service, those guys dont have much to do and willing to prove themselves useful.

Obviously you have no idea of what the Secret Service really does. Besides protecting all government dignataries, as well as visiting ones, they are also charged with protecting the US money supply. Their case load is just as large as the SEC, FBI, CFTC, FTC, and US Postal Inpectors Office.

But the truly great thing about the Secret Service is they don't have to wait for victims before they can act. All they need is to suspect money laundering, wire fraud, bank fraud, and they can launch an investigation. They can also act much faster than any other agency simply because of what they are responsible for to protect the US.

An interesting article for those who think Banners Broker do not need to worry about their accounting records Building boss gets four months for dodgy accounts Ι Construction Enquirer

(I actually think the guy got off lightly)

Something that was on BB Facts and Updates last week but has now disappeared....clearly the affiliates are getting restless and being accused of trying to "stir it up" as a result....

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Touchy lot, aren't they?

I'm not sure how ticket sales for the BB World Tour are going – this Google Hangout with Kimberley Tilley, Keith Lambert, Sharon Lane and Simon Stepsys/Baxter stresses the importance of going to the Manchester event – Exclusive Banners Broker Hangout. One of the unique benefits of attendance is the opportunity to hang out with these morons in person. And drink with them. A lot of drinking. There are few things I can imagine that would be worse than spending time with this lot, but spending time with them drunk has to be one. As usual they all agree that it's not about the money, it's about helping people. Especially for Stepsys/Baxter who has now made five million in some currency or other from BB. The secret? You have to go in "big". That's a slight change in emphasis in the pitch. Previously, it was emphasised that it was "free" to try BB, and that is how punters were roped in. Now there's more urgency about buying the most expensive "package" that you can afford. An edited version of the video has been re-posted as Think BIG with Banners Broker - Millionaire's Update with the following "tips":

"1/ Buy the highest package you can. Soon they will be releasing the NEW Banners Broker's PRESTIGE PACKAGE
2/ It is possible to still earn a revenue with Banners broker and still not refer anyone. HOWEVER if you want to develop a serious business and make money with Banners Broker -- RECRUIT -- RECRUIT -- RECRUIT!
3/ COMPOUNDING is the way to go forward if you want to build momentum and increase your earning potential with Banners Broker.
This is for REAL guys, we are in for the long term with Banners Broker."

The "longevity" of BB is a bit of an obsession: "Longevity is the priority of this company and they are focussed on looking after the wellbeing of their 300 000 affiliates worldwide .This industry is changing lives and people everywhere are able to quit their jobs."

Meanwhile, this fool's account of a trip to Ponzi Point has to be a contender for the Most Boring Clip on YouTube. Mike Briggs is like something from a TV comedy sketch show, except not funny. However, he is, like all of his fellow BBers, completely beyond parody.

In order to prove how legit BB is, a number of videos have been uploaded showing people going to ATMs to withdraw money, such as this and this. Part of BB's pitch has always been to say that it's not a scam, which should really tell people that it is a scam. Shouldn't it?

Then there's this – so much wrongness in such a short space of time.

I don't think that money laundering is such a serious issue for BB or indeed anyone. Recent events in HSBC have shown that money laundering is now merely a minor misdemeanour that doesn't even carry any jail time. At least not if you're a banker and they're the most adroit Ponzi scammers of all. What it takes to walk free is to give the Feds a piece of your ill-gotten gains, a kick-back, quaintly called a "fine". It's the cost of doing business. The Feds are now "affiliates" of the drug cartels – maybe the Chris Smith business model is a work of genius after all?!

So even if some government agency somewhere was to show some initiative (LOL!) with regard to BB, it would be with a view to a kick-back/"fine". As for the punters who've lost money? Well, that could be regarded as a Stupidity Tax, helpfully collected by BB. In fact, it shouldn't be too long before some jurisdiction is bound to realise the potential earnings to be had from Stupidity Tax and form a Department Of Ponzi Enforcement.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Something that was on BB Facts and Updates last week but has now disappeared....clearly the affiliates are getting restless and being accused of trying to "stir it up" as a result....

....

Touchy lot, aren't they?

Well his legit questions will get his legit account suspended shortly, backed, of course, by legit rules from a legit company. Allegedly....

Banners Broker: BBI Millionaire Success Story

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You know, I have to agree. One of the most frustrating things about using Google AdSense is that you can't share the profits with other people. How I wish there were some other form of advertising system that allowed me to unleash the deep humanitarian need I have to share my online advertising profits with a group of people...for lack of a better term I might call my "downline". I mean, all the money I send to various charities around the world is "ok" but this lack of online advertising revenue sharing enablement has really left a burr in my brisket if you know what I mean.

I am so happy for Martin that he has found Banners Broker to be the elixir to this disturbing condition.

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Poyal you should feel honoured that you have been threatened by a Real Millionaire. Not every day that someone as lofty as that might take the time out to unleash a profanity laced tirade into one's mobile phone, directed to some malcontent on the internet, you know.

I also wonder if the tax authorities in the UK know about Martin Wild and his millions in profits? He must have winced at least once when he filed that tax report, claiming and paying on all those earnings. I'd feel sorry for the chap but since he has a money-printing machine at his disposal I suppose it doesn't really matter. Everyone wins, as they say.

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Originally Posted by EagleOne

But the truly great thing about the Secret Service is they don't have to wait for victims before they can act. All they need is to suspect money laundering, wire fraud, bank fraud, and they can launch an investigation. They can also act much faster than any other agency simply because of what they are responsible for to protect the US.

So why aren't they acting in this case? BB using a mainstream bank (Wellsfargo) for withdrawal payments in the U.S. in right in their jurisdiction.

is that the bb facts and updates admin whose post came from nz? does anyone know who this is?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Something that was on BB Facts and Updates last week but has now disappeared....clearly the affiliates are getting restless and being accused of trying to "stir it up" as a result....

.9th Feb 2013.jpg

Touchy lot, aren't they?

Kiwichick - I think it is the person who is asking the questions (Mark Calverley) who is from NZ, not the facts and updates person.

Here is a nice clip with hedge fund owner Bill Ackman about David Hooker's last venture, Herbalife. Have a quick watch. While you do, substitute BB for Herbalife. See what ye think:

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/cnbc/50802033#50802033

Originally Posted by Justin Casey

Meanwhile, this fool's account of a trip to Ponzi Point has to be a contender for the Most Boring Clip on YouTube.

Right, so the heavy snow prevented all (with exception of those previously involved in the ICF ponzi) of the, presumably fairly local, SP staff from making it into work, but the this lot managed, without a great deal of effort, to journey through the snow from Toronto and back again?

Then, on returning to Toronto they are "wined and dined" by the head of BBI at what appears to be the foodcourt in a shopping mall?

And all the time Roland Rat will have been there, pointing at everything and grinning like someone on day release from Rampton...

yay for the kiwi having a stab at them then!!!, will have a look for this mark guy he seems on to it

this popped up on my last google search An Unbiased Banners Broker Review | Best Advertisement Place
can someone put this up cause it has got coca cola etc. used as examples of how bb advertising products work and is dated jan 2013

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Kiwichick - I think it is the person who is asking the questions (Mark Calverley) who is from NZ, not the facts and updates person.

Originally Posted by kiwichick

yay for the kiwi having a stab at them then!!!, will have a look for this mark guy he seems on to it

this popped up on my last google search An Unbiased Banners Broker Review | Best Advertisement Place
can someone put this up cause it has got coca cola etc. used as examples of how bb advertising products work and is dated jan 2013

Here you go...

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Originally Posted by Finix

So why aren't they acting in this case? BB using a mainstream bank (Wellsfargo) for withdrawal payments in the U.S. in right in their jurisdiction.

And what makes you think they are not investigating? Just because no action has been taken yet does not mean that they are not investigating. It will also depend on what other things they are working on and BB's priority to their other case load.

Unlike the SEC/FBI it won't take them 2 years to conduct their investigation. Once they have the proof that money laundering, bank fraud or wire fraud has happened, then I would expect them to act. But it does take time to get the goods on them. There is more to this than just the US, and they willl coorindate their efforts with the Canadian and UK authorities. It is a lot more complicated than people realize.

Contrary to public opinion, they do have to folllow the laws and have court approved authority to act. This is not TV where everything gets solved in 48 minutes of a one-hour show.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

This is not TV where everything gets solved in 48 minutes of a one-hour show.

If they are going to do something, they'd better hurry up. BB has been around for almost three years. It's about to vanish into the oblivion.

Louds more photos posted by simon stepsys on flikr. Maybe somebody could save them all just in case they disappear.
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Who is the guy leading the "meeting"?
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