Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Peter Onzi

I personally know Duncan and believe his upliner was the famous Ian Driscoll and he has even been on the same billing as him at presentations:

Banners Broker A Journey : Forthcoming Presentations Q&A

After joining about 18 months Duncan claims to have made tens of thousands from the programme. Having spoken face to face with him, I believe he genuinely believes it is a legitimate business that is going to grow and grow...either that or he is the most convincing (and unlikely) liar scammer I've met. However, he is also one of the biggest advocates of BB:

https://twitter.com/DuncanWood2
Duncan Wood - United Kingdom | LinkedIn
Duncan Wood - YouTube
https://plus.google.com/107060327635906100799/posts

Search on Duncan Wood Banners Broker and plenty comes up.

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Martin Wild's comments/ notes

He is heading up the Manchester event

In 14 months he is now a BB millionaire

Wonder if Jason(poyol) got an invite??

He has encouraged someone to ditch their wedding to come to the BB meet!!!!!

Smart man that chose a BB meet over their wedding.....Given the chance over I'd likely make the same choice
Wife would kill me but such is life.....

Heard of them getting but this is the first I've heard of anyone having to give it back. Everybody? Have you talked to all of them or was it announced somewhere that this is what happened and that's what they were going to do? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, got any? That's way too long to wait for your c/c payment though, I hope they get that to you quickly. They have announced that they are behind on payments because there were over 60,000 requests for liquidation for Christmas so one can only hope that is the case.

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Originally Posted by Della Cate

I wonder if all these different spellings of SP are accidental or deliberate? You know, to confuse search engines and searchers?

Stella....Steller.....Stellar.....and I've noticed in some case it's all one word: StellarPoint. It was the one word version which threw up the Manchester USA job advert.

It's because ScammerPoint would just be too obvious.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

@Beacon



3 x 12 hours shifts? Obviously 24 hours a day not enough.....

(Desperately searching for sarcasm emoticon here)

Hadn't they already proclaimed having 100 'employees'?

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Got a bit bored on teh webinar and had a couple of distractions so not got full notes - sure they will be out later

I did however, copy the q&a from sidebar - some interesing points made

Audience Question
Q: panel speed become very slow
A: We are aware. Things slow down after Christmas. Thank you.

If you all remember, the 'Christmas vacation' had the panels moving faster than ever and we were laughing about it here saying the place runs better with no one around.

Audience Question
Q: 1-Why Quebec is the only province in Canada to not be allowed to be in business with Banners Broker?
A: Thank you for your question. It's actually because the Quebec laws are different than the rest of Canada

I found this interesting? What laws could possibly prevent this 'business' trading in this province?

I will guess a US SEC equivalent that actually pays attention.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Gosh! BB worth more than a wedding eh? Perhaps the bride/groom who was ditched should consider that he/she has had a narrow escape, if that's what the prospective life partner considers more important.....

They just need to reaffirm they are scumbags on a daily basis.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Quick Google of Duncan Wood and found out he is associated with something called the Humber Property Network. This is how they describe BB (bold empahsis mine):-

What is Banners East Yorkshire?

It is a regular networking evening event In Hull for people to discover more about the company Banners Broker. To support, share ideas and solve problems for each other in order to grow our online advertising businesses.

What is Banners Broker?

Banners Broker is an online advertising company. Its product is banner impressions. These are sold to advertising clients on a network of over 200,000 websites.

An ad impression is what you see when you go to any site online that has banner ads – the banner that appears on the screen in front of you has been “targeted” to appear uniquely before your eyes. When someone else goes to that same site, they may get a different banner ad. It depends on who the advertiser intends to see his ad.

Banners Broker Is Not Multi-level Marketing.
As a Banners Broker affiliate or member, you are in fact running a business that purchases advertising inventory from Banners Broker. Advertising inventory is the space on a website that holds the advertisement. It’s like a blank billboard.

Banners Broker then “rents” that space out to paying advertisers to make a profit for:

• The affiliate (you),
• And Banners Broker itself

The website owner makes his revenue when Banners Broker buys bulk advertising inventory in the marketplace. The advertiser makes a profit by skilled advertising that creates want for his product or service.

With any business opportunity you need to do your due diligence so make an informed decision by speaking to other people who are part of the business.

Meet The Organisers Of Banners Broker East Yorkshire

The Banners Broker East Yorkshire Meetings are organised by Robin Shaw and Simon Cartwright, the co-founders of the

Humber Property Network.

That's just all wrong. 2 very key words are missing.

Well; if there is 60,000 requests for liquidation for Christmas, I am assuming that minimum liquidation will be minimum about 500USD who thinks they have 3m USD to pay it all out?

Unfortunetly, the system does not work as we all hoped.

Here you go;

Banners Broker has quite few web sites in different, categories subject, such as 150cash.com, forsaleorbail.com, fungameclub.com (as we all know all those web sites are hosted under one reseller hosting with same IP address.) and they have placed banners on this pages. What they are doing is buying traffic/hits and sending traffics to those pages and web sites own by them, 10.000(ten thousand) hits only cost 5 USD, because traffic is generated through scripts and site ranking sites such as Alexa and Google ranks the sites higher than many other web sites.
This is how their BB website, and other websites are ranked high in Alexa.

10 hits on a page in their web site with 5 banners will result in 50 add impression trough their affiliate network, we are speculating that they have pages with hundreds of banners that they generate a lot of impression, as they claim that they have been advertising trough out blind network (blind affiliates), no one is able to find the banners.

in reality the affiliates are the advertiser who has been advertising, even if they have publishers or have others to publish the advertisers banners advertising the system works but the problem is Yellows, Purples and Blues, because they may not be generating revenue from the advertising, even if they do the advertise networks pay-out’s are very strict and they cancel contract without making payment in such as case Banners Broker will be in big problem, there may be millions (if not hundreds of thousands of) yellow panels generating more yellow panels every four weeks and also generating $10, $30 and $90 in commission.

BB broker is making money from the traffic members are buying, it was not possible to imagine or think how the system would work in reality, and this moment no one else is buying packages or panels directly from the BB, and traffics are taken out from the commissions that is why they introduces monthly traffic subscription.

>>> anyway I can say a lot about them as I have been searching to understand what they have been doing, but there are ways to get your money back, but you must act very quick.

Please PM me and I will send you an email to explain how you can get your money back through your bank.
If you have paid to someone (inviter) to purchase package you can start a small claim case to get your money back from the person you gave money;

Finally, even if the BB did not start with idea of turning it into a HYIP ponzi scam but it has become one, because in realty it requires great amount of hard work to get so much publisher together.

To our loyal customers and affiliates,

We want to take a moment to say thank you to everyone for your continued support and patronage with our products. We are happy with some significant changes and improvements to our program, the most important being the Support Tickets that are caught up and are being answered within the same day.

This began on Monday, and our goal is to ensure tickets are answered the same day going forward. In addition, on February 19th, 2013 we are happy to announce our new Executive Service. We have staff trained who are excited to begin working on the V.I.P. Phone Support Line, and chose our seasoned support workers from many of whom you are already familiar with.

We know our primary issue remains with payouts being done on time. We are working around the clock to resolve the issue and put a plan in place to make sure going forward we never have these issues again. Rajiv Dixit, C.E.O. of Stellar Point Inc., recently came back from India where he is working to finalize a global payout solution for India and the region.

We are happy to announce that in a few weeks this option will be live for India and will resolve all payout issues that are taking place in our biggest customer market. In addition to this, we are happy to say that EVERYONE who made a request by December 5th, 2012 using STP was paid by Christmas. Likewise, everyone who made a request to the BB card by December 20th, 2012 was paid by then as well.

Although this was a great achievement, and many of you responded positively, some of us forget quickly how BBI has been paying 1000’s of our satisfied customers every week without issues, and choose to focus on the ones who didn’t get paid. BBI has paid out over $4 million through Solid Trust Pay and over $7 million to the BB Card, and even though that is a tremendous accomplishment, we sincerely understand your frustrations and are continually working to maintain prompt payouts for every one of you.

We here at Banners Broker International, located in the Isle of Mann, are continuously working to find more efficient, stable payment solutions. There are few companies that have been as fortunate as us, and who require the Global Payment Solution that we do. We are continuously working on the new brokers and Global Partners to offer new and innovative products and solutions.

Our Choice Network, which is a partnership between two brokers, has now grown to over 60 websites and is well on its way to becoming a major contender in their respective industries. Banners Broker International is excited about the launch of Version 2.9, the new options and services, and will unveil these features in the United Kingdom at our BB Tour.

Again, we are working to clean-up the back payout issues, and will not stop until it is fully resolved. We strive to form healthy global relationships with our business partners, and with that in mind, we ask that you refrain from any negativity on various blogs and forums while we resolve technical issues. Let's work together to make 2013 the best year ever!

Thank you, Banners Broker Administration

i think in a few weeks this could be shut and gone

Originally Posted by bannersbrokerhelpme

i think in a few weeks this could be shut and gone

Well it may take more than few weeks as they know what they are doing.
I am sure they are trying, doing everything to save the compay as well. But it may be very hard to do so.

BB will be around bit more as they are still getting people involved non-english speaking countries.

Originally Posted by man_dan

Well it may take more than few weeks as they know what they are doing.
I am sure they are trying, doing everything to save the compay as well. But it may be very hard to do so.

BB will be around bit more as they are still getting people involved non-english speaking countries.

what is funny is they paid people via STP by accident and then took the money ONLY to say we will pay you soon

these jokers

when i got a call i actually thought they had paid the customer until i went through STP with the customer only to find it had been all a mistake

the notice is pretty interesting

Do you really believe this? Really?

Originally Posted by bannersbrokerhelpme

To our loyal customers and affiliates,

We want to take a moment to say thank you to everyone for your continued support and patronage with our products. We are happy with some significant changes and improvements to our program, the most important being the Support Tickets that are caught up and are being answered within the same day.

This began on Monday, and our goal is to ensure tickets are answered the same day going forward. In addition, on February 19th, 2013 we are happy to announce our new Executive Service. We have staff trained who are excited to begin working on the V.I.P. Phone Support Line, and chose our seasoned support workers from many of whom you are already familiar with.

We know our primary issue remains with payouts being done on time. We are working around the clock to resolve the issue and put a plan in place to make sure going forward we never have these issues again. Rajiv Dixit, C.E.O. of Stellar Point Inc., recently came back from India where he is working to finalize a global payout solution for India and the region.

We are happy to announce that in a few weeks this option will be live for India and will resolve all payout issues that are taking place in our biggest customer market. In addition to this, we are happy to say that EVERYONE who made a request by December 5th, 2012 using STP was paid by Christmas. Likewise, everyone who made a request to the BB card by December 20th, 2012 was paid by then as well.

Although this was a great achievement, and many of you responded positively, some of us forget quickly how BBI has been paying 1000’s of our satisfied customers every week without issues, and choose to focus on the ones who didn’t get paid. BBI has paid out over $4 million through Solid Trust Pay and over $7 million to the BB Card, and even though that is a tremendous accomplishment, we sincerely understand your frustrations and are continually working to maintain prompt payouts for every one of you.

We here at Banners Broker International, located in the Isle of Mann, are continuously working to find more efficient, stable payment solutions. There are few companies that have been as fortunate as us, and who require the Global Payment Solution that we do. We are continuously working on the new brokers and Global Partners to offer new and innovative products and solutions.

Our Choice Network, which is a partnership between two brokers, has now grown to over 60 websites and is well on its way to becoming a major contender in their respective industries. Banners Broker International is excited about the launch of Version 2.9, the new options and services, and will unveil these features in the United Kingdom at our BB Tour.

Again, we are working to clean-up the back payout issues, and will not stop until it is fully resolved. We strive to form healthy global relationships with our business partners, and with that in mind, we ask that you refrain from any negativity on various blogs and forums while we resolve technical issues. Let's work together to make 2013 the best year ever!

Thank you, Banners Broker Administration

nah i do not think it will come through

i am hoping the people who have the money in can get it back

Originally Posted by Theseus

Here, for your Saturday enjoyment, is Mark Stokes' "sheik", Imran "Immi" Nauth, Banners Broker "millionaire"...


Attachment 2295

not, as may be assumed from his title and attire, the son of some sheikh from some far off Arabic land, but rather one of seven children of a taxi driver in Guyana, who after converting to Islam travelled to the UK and took up residence in Bradford, from where when he is not preaching, according to Companies House, he operates Al-Waseelah Investments Ltd from a terraced residence at 27 Bertram Road BD8 7LX

here is the mobile number of this thief = 07545 449105

not to worry when he changes it i will have the new one too got plenty of people who are angry with him....

i have heard he is running scared anyone who knocks on the door he gets his wife to open it...give him a some words on the phone or

Originally Posted by bannersbrokerhelpme

nah i do not think it will come through

i am hoping the people who have the money in can get it back

They can first one is Charge Back with the bank; there anyone who paid by a Bank car must talk to payment dispute department, there are certain stages, 1) you must tell to banks that you have purchased a service from an online company “the product is online advertising package with earning option.” 2) you must state that you are concerned that the company will not renter the service, as there are 1000s un happy people posting around BB being a Scam, 3) if you have made a transfer and your payment is still pending take a screen shot of account and include this in the form that the banks will send after you taking to them.

>> Very important <<
BB is trying to make you wait, because there are deadline to be able to do Charge Back from your bank, one you are passed that you do not have any change to apply for charge back.

Second one is to fill a small claim to person who sold you the packages and panels, for this you must take screen shoot of the package, prices, and panels that was transferred to you once you take screen shoot go to justice website to fill the claim to person who you paid money.

This may cost you an extra hundred pounds but eventually you can get the money from the person.

Please do not let this people walk free, as they will carry one scamming other people.

Originally Posted by bannersbrokerhelpme

what is funny is they paid people via STP by accident and then took the money ONLY to say we will pay you soon

these jokers

when i got a call i actually thought they had paid the customer until i went through STP with the customer only to find it had been all a mistake

BB do not use STP anymore is it?

Audience Question
Q: panel speed become very slow
A: We are aware. Things slow down after Christmas. Thank you.

No need to worry. The slow down usually lasts no longer than 12 months.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by man_dan

They can first one is Charge Back with the bank; there anyone who paid by a Bank car must talk to payment dispute department, there are certain stages, 1) you must tell to banks that you have purchased a service from an online company “the product is online advertising package with earning option.” 2) you must state that you are concerned that the company will not renter the service, as there are 1000s un happy people posting around BB being a Scam, 3) if you have made a transfer and your payment is still pending take a screen shot of account and include this in the form that the banks will send after you taking to them.

>> Very important <<
BB is trying to make you wait, because there are deadline to be able to do Charge Back from your bank, one you are passed that you do not have any change to apply for charge back.

Second one is to fill a small claim to person who sold you the packages and panels, for this you must take screen shoot of the package, prices, and panels that was transferred to you once you take screen shoot go to justice website to fill the claim to person who you paid money.

This may cost you an extra hundred pounds but eventually you can get the money from the person.

Please do not let this people walk free, as they will carry one scamming other people.

I like what you posted. Do not let your upline scam you and your friends. Sue them and make them pay.

Originally Posted by Peter Onzi

I personally know Duncan and believe his upliner was the famous Ian Driscoll and he has even been on the same billing as him at presentations:

Banners Broker A Journey : Forthcoming Presentations Q&A

After joining about 18 months Duncan claims to have made tens of thousands from the programme. Having spoken face to face with him, I believe he genuinely believes it is a legitimate business that is going to grow and grow...either that or he is the most convincing (and unlikely) liar scammer I've met. However, he is also one of the biggest advocates of BB:

https://twitter.com/DuncanWood2
Duncan Wood - United Kingdom | LinkedIn
Duncan Wood - YouTube
https://plus.google.com/107060327635906100799/posts

Search on Duncan Wood Banners Broker and plenty comes up.

Peter; all scammers use same technique;

Yes they have made tens of thousands but from the people they introduced in BB, the original plan was BB would make money from traffic as they buy this traffic less than 5USD for 10k hits, they send millions of hits to their sites and pages and they create fake impression.
No one who does not understand internet would understand how their system works, even an investigation would not result in fraud and people behind this are manipulators.

Yes he believes, but to himself. Yes he is sure that it will grow “for himself.”

And his manipulative mind believes it so you won’t even understand from his eyes that he is lying as he believes to it in his manipulated mind, that is scam, and they need convincer to convince other they tell stories about friend who paid his mortgage or relative who paid of her debt etc. etc.

I still hope the BB can make it once day, and everyone who is in it gets their money. But not every hope works out…

Paul Mcarthy the Irish IC for banners brokers has been very quiet since he has returned from a visit to the industrial unit/200 man 3X12 hour shift a day banners brokers HQ at 5 Carlow.

I can only assume that despite being dimwitted he saw for himself that he had bought into a a "pile o $hite" and it was indeed a scam.

I go further to assume (which I do too much of and too often) that he being an owner of property and assets that can be seized has decided to step down as the the fall guy for Ireland.

Mcarthys fly by night maccone online marketing outfit was the default IC for the UK after Driscoll left under a cloud of a missing 4 mill and a defection to flexkomm, now he is keeping his head down.

To anyone thinking about investing in BB, or doing the research for someone who might be.. this may be of concern, the De facto UK IC for BB has gone to ground and given up the golden goose AFTER having visited the headquarters of banners brokers international in canada, but the real head office is in belize, but really it's in the isle of man.

Swissblueskye puts it better than me (so do many other people here) when he refers to the business model, people involved in internet Marketing rip it to pieces as an unviable and deluded concept, investors on facebook and in private rip it apart for not paying, the authorities in India are ripping it apart in the Courts, Finch rips it apart on an hourly basis in his blog,

Our motives? strangely enough goodwill, and the sincere desire that this scam stop.

Don't believe terry stern or hooker when you are told that we have an agenda, we dont, I am new here and so are many more members that are contributing to this thread, I have no financial incentive, I have nothing to sell and I am not an investor.

For those not yet fluent in scammer talk allow me to translate the latest update poop....

To our loyal customers and affiliates,

We want to take a moment to say thank you to everyone for your continued support and patronage with our products. We are happy with some significant changes and improvements to our program, the most important being the Support Tickets that are caught up and are being answered within the same day.

We got no gelt left to pay with but we are answering support tickets so you can be assured that your numbers on the screen are accurate....

This began on Monday, and our goal is to ensure tickets are answered the same day going forward. In addition, on February 19th, 2013 we are happy to announce our new Executive Service. We have staff trained who are excited to begin working on the V.I.P. Phone Support Line, and chose our seasoned support workers from many of whom you are already familiar with.

We have a fresh bunch of people fully trained in scammer talk who will talk you through your numbers on the screen....

We know our primary issue remains with payouts being done on time. We are working around the clock to resolve the issue and put a plan in place to make sure going forward we never have these issues again. Rajiv Dixit, C.E.O. of Stellar Point Inc., recently came back from India where he is working to finalize a global payout solution for India and the region.

We are working round the clock in non english speaking countries to suck in people who hardly understand a word we saying in the hope that they will supply the gelt with which we will pay you....

We are happy to announce that in a few weeks this option will be live for India and will resolve all payout issues that are taking place in our biggest customer market. In addition to this, we are happy to say that EVERYONE who made a request by December 5th, 2012 using STP was paid by Christmas. Likewise, everyone who made a request to the BB card by December 20th, 2012 was paid by then as well.

In the next few weeks we hope to find many suckers in India who will provide fresh gelt for withdraws...

Although this was a great achievement, and many of you responded positively, some of us forget quickly how BBI has been paying 1000’s of our satisfied customers every week without issues, and choose to focus on the ones who didn’t get paid. BBI has paid out over $4 million through Solid Trust Pay and over $7 million to the BB Card, and even though that is a tremendous accomplishment, we sincerely understand your frustrations and are continually working to maintain prompt payouts for every one of you.

It's not easy to find enough suckers that will deposit $11million but we did it...

We here at Banners Broker International, located in the Isle of Mann, are continuously working to find more efficient, stable payment solutions. There are few companies that have been as fortunate as us, and who require the Global Payment Solution that we do. We are continuously working on the new brokers and Global Partners to offer new and innovative products and solutions.

We located in the USA and/or Canada but we don't want the SEC to know....

Our Choice Network, which is a partnership between two brokers, has now grown to over 60 websites and is well on its way to becoming a major contender in their respective industries. Banners Broker International is excited about the launch of Version 2.9, the new options and services, and will unveil these features in the United Kingdom at our BB Tour.

We about to launch version 2.9 which is just another way to scam you....

Again, we are working to clean-up the back payout issues, and will not stop until it is fully resolved. We strive to form healthy global relationships with our business partners, and with that in mind, we ask that you refrain from any negativity on various blogs and forums while we resolve technical issues. Let's work together to make 2013 the best year ever!

Again, as fresh suckers deposit fresh funds we will pay you...

Thank you, Banners Broker Administration

Sorry, but anyone, and I do mean anyone, who is dumb enough to pay $500/mo for their "Executive" program deserves to lose every dime they invest in BB. I must also say, sadly, that there will be idiots who will pony up thinking they have found Utopia; but at most it buys BB a couple more months of time if they can sucker enough people to pay it.