Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

I think a huge factor with the global economy is that with scams like this you may never have to face your downline when the scam collapses. In times past, with ponzi schemes, there was always a certain degree of responsibility towards those you recruited. With these online scams that sense of responsibility is majorly diminished.
I have discussed this with one BB member that was quite open in admitting that he is delighted that he will probably never have to meet half his downline as they 'live half way round the world, and couldn't afford to travel to find him anyway.'

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Here's another photo of Chris Smith, this time with a Polish (I think he is) affiliate at the new Stellar Point offices. Please note the sophisticated surroundings. And the ladder, to the left, is a nice touch.


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Is he the white one on the right this time or still the gentleman on the left?

Originally Posted by okosh

Why thank you waverider.....You are too kind

FYI....The only thing I hate more than a shill who is fluent in "scammer talk" is an AUSSIE shill who is fluent in "scammer talk"

Especially an Aussie without any friends
from View Profile: waverider - RealScam.com - Is it, or isn't it? You Decide.
"waverider has not made any friends yet"

Somebody's been busy.

I'm getting this warning in Google Chrome when I navigate to Realscam.com

Is this what Banners Broker meant by fighting back on the forums & Blogs?

Anybody else getting this?

Advisory provided by

Safe Browsing

Diagnostic page for realscam.com


What is the current listing status for realscam.com?

Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this web site may harm your computer.

What happened when Google visited this site?

Of the 10 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 0 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2013-01-25, and suspicious content was never found on this site within the past 90 days.This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS26496 (PAH).

Has this site acted as an intermediary resulting in further distribution of malware?

Over the past 90 days, realscam.com did not appear to function as an intermediary for the infection of any sites.

Has this site hosted malware?

No, this site has not hosted malicious software over the past 90 days.

How did this happen?

In some cases, third parties can add malicious code to legitimate sites, which would cause us to show the warning message.

Next steps:

• Return to the previous page.
• If you are the owner of this web site, you can request a review of your site using Google Webmaster Tools. More information about the review process is available in Google's Webmaster Help Center.

Updated 7 hours ago

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Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Somebody's been busy.

I'm getting this warning in Google Chrome when I navigate to Realscam.com

Is this what Banners Broker meant by fighting back on the forums & Blogs?

Anybody else getting this?

Advisory provided by

Safe Browsing

Diagnostic page for realscam.com


What is the current listing status for realscam.com?

Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this web site may harm your computer.

What happened when Google visited this site?

Of the 10 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 0 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2013-01-25, and suspicious content was never found on this site within the past 90 days.This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS26496 (PAH).

Has this site acted as an intermediary resulting in further distribution of malware?

Over the past 90 days, realscam.com did not appear to function as an intermediary for the infection of any sites.

Has this site hosted malware?

No, this site has not hosted malicious software over the past 90 days.

How did this happen?

In some cases, third parties can add malicious code to legitimate sites, which would cause us to show the warning message.

Next steps:

• Return to the previous page.
• If you are the owner of this web site, you can request a review of your site using Google Webmaster Tools. More information about the review process is available in Google's Webmaster Help Center.

Updated 7 hours ago

© Google - Google Home


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Yes , me too.

My message was this website contains malware.

I'm getting this in Firefox. Somebody really hates this site.

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The problem has been fixed.

The warning should be removed once Google has reviewed the site.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

The problem has been fixed.

The warning should be removed once Google has reviewed the site.

Yeah looks okay now. That was a pretty pathetic attempt to stop people accessing the site.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Yeah looks okay now. That was a pretty pathetic attempt to stop people accessing the site.

Comes with the territory.

When you come to realize these guys are defending millions of dollars in illegal profits, anything is possible.

Originally Posted by Finix

See how you had to shift from "wrong" to "evil"? Those are very different concepts.

See how I dealt with the problems of using the word "evil" in my following lines ( the ones you omitted)?
See how I addressed subjective morals as well in that argument ( in case you take up a position that wrong depends on the perspective)?

REference http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b...html#post44105 and the message immediately before it.

Originally Posted by Finix

What's wrong for one is right for another. UncleFesta will tell you that they are a nice wealth-redistribution mechanism, and in his own twisted way he is correct as well.

"Ponzies are illegal" is a much better framework for the discussion.

No we dealt with htis already and you are now re entering the moral relativism argument. What the Nazis did was LEGAL in Germany! They changed laws to say Jews were lesser people. What the LEGAL slavery laws did in the US was wrong just as what the Nazis did was wrong. Making them legal would still not make them right. at the same time we operate within the law for not to do so may also be wrong.

Originally Posted by Theseus

Do you really believe that someone charged with purchasing advertising space for a large national or multinational organisation (remember the claims, including yours, are of blue chip clients) is going to pay THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY times the going rate? Remember the claim isn't just that ONE customer does, but that hundreds or thousands do. No wonder BB won't say who their clients are, their media buyers would all be queued up outside the job centre the very next morning.

What really amuses me though is that the more you, Teflon Terry, or the Happy Hooker try and explain it, the more preposterous the whole thing sounds. I almost look forward to hearing the next excuse for where the money comes from.

I'd imaging it won't be long before the claim is not that BB are like Google, but that they are Google, a secretive philanthropic section of the company that tours the world helping the poor and hard of thinking to achieve millionaire status in a few short weeks...

Another central issue about this and the message just before it is that BB shills somehow claim there is some "balance" where realscam have to prove a scam. In fact ( in spite of realscam showing the evidence about this scam anyway) the thing is the other way around! RS are not charging anyone any money. BB are! It is for BB to prove it is not a scam by for example showing their audited accounts proving what money is coming in and from where. They have produced ZERO evidence as to any BB account anywhere showing that advertising is being bought or sold!

http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b...html#post44261

Continues in this vein it begions with "That's assuming that BB is in fact a scam, as is alleged here, however to this date there isn't a single shred of evidence both here and on the Finch blog that this is the case." . this is just a clearly unsupported OPINION not a FACT and it is thrown out as if the burden of evidence is on RS and not BB. furthermore it is clearly WRONG as RS have provided court records, business registrations, industry standards past history of major players etc. which are established FACTS.

LOL, I should have read this thread before I PMed SBM and LRM about this.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

The problem has been fixed.

The warning should be removed once Google has reviewed the site.

can you also request that google's pr team provide some explanation of bb's similarities to google?

yes I had a malware warning come up on google chrome a while back, asked some regular members about this and they assured me message untrue, had the same thought that this is what bb meant by the 'blogging war. I also get A LOT of phishing spam to the email address used for webinars etc. ...I report these as spam but what is done about these reports and those doing it?

Originally Posted by baylee

LOL, I should have read this thread before I PMed SBM and LRM about this.

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May just be me, but got a warning message from Google about RS today.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

May just be me, but got a warning message from Google about RS today.

Me too, somebody must keep reporting this site for Malware, must have a "vandette" against Realscam can't think why.

Odd, I use Chrome and haven't ever had any warnings whatsoever.

Edit: Well, it let me post that message, then I got the warning partway through browsing another thread! lol!

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Odd, I use Chrome and haven't ever had any warnings whatsoever.

Must be your settings. When I use chrome I get a warning message all the time.

Incidentally for those trumpting the imminent demise of BB, assuming they are only scamming a few hundred votes at most, there are still thousands of people who "believe" BB is an actual legit business
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That said, there are probably thousands who believe the Earth is flat or is run by lizard people from outer space.

Originally Posted by Beacon

Must be your settings. When I use chrome I get a warning message all the time.

Incidentally for those trumpting the imminent demise of BB, assuming they are only scamming a few hundred votes at most, there are still thousands of people who "believe" BB is an actual legit business
The Top Direct Selling Companies In The World In 2013

That said, there are probably thousands who believe the Earth is flat or is run by lizard people from outer space.

Notice the picture of "Chris Smith" (or whatever his name is) in that line-up is taken by Mark Stokes on his mobile phone.
For a company with supposedly 300,000 affiliated the only have just over 4000 votes.

Anyone else get this?

Originally Posted by activerog

G'day mate,

You'll notice I've pulled that card video (and the others). I surf, and I'm a wave rider, but I'm not 'waverider' nor am I Jack O'Neill or anybody else you care to think of. Aside from a couple of posts on a BB-related FB page, the only time I've ever made public comment about BB was in scam.com but for some reason these threads have disappeared without a trace.

I know Mary Bosveld (super granny) personally, we launched a product called 'drinkACT' into Australia back in 2005 together, and I can confirm she never posted here on RS, so we have another imposter and impersonator within RS.

My master plan is to get back as much of the $600 I've ploughed into BB as soon as possible, at the moment I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I'll get my first withdrawal of $300 which has been pending for a week.

If you're ever on the Gold Coast, give me a holler, we'll have a coffee at one of Broadbeach's coffee lounges, and I'll bring my macbook and show you by way of logging into my BB that I actually have just the two freebie members, one from the UK, the other from the Philippines. No grand masterplan of recruiting, I got into BB and the plan was to be passive for 9-12 months or so, and then if all is sweet, commence a recruiting drive, with proof that one is able to build a revenue stream with BB without recruiting.

With all the negative publicity that's floating around cyberspace, I'm not comfortable doing that, nor will I be making any public comment about BB. I sell ASIC-compliant investment products, which include Self-Managed Super Funds and options auto-trading (which is performing well), and I'll make shitloads more money doing that than I ever will with BB, so my energy is focused elsewhere.


cheers mate and take care

Originally Posted by Theseus

Anyone else get this?

No not recieved that PM.

Wow & he was such a staunch supporter of Banners Broker.
People finally seeing the light?

Originally Posted by littleroundman

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Unbelievable- preying on the old as usual. I am a NON retired CA and i can say that i disagree with almost everything this retired CA said. As well as quoting the old "Mastercard approved us " crap and then "compliant in 108 countries" (because presumably not being shut down = compliant) he tries to tell us he thoroughly investigated. BS. Had to laugh that his proof that people were taking out money and that it was REAL money was that he knew a person who was paying a shitload for traffic packs each month. When the interviewer said "and so presumably he is taking a lot out" the answer was "well he could do". Sounds real to me. Not.

As he has been in it for 12 months though and as a retired CA i am sure he has put it on his tax return. Care to share if you are reading?

latest message from finch's scam update blog

"The shills have gone pretty quiet in the last few weeks.

A few belated attempts at bending half-truths, but I think most individuals connected to BannersBroker are now aware of what they’re dealing with, if they weren’t already.

It certainly seems that way by the search traffic finding it’s way to this site.

Whereas 2 months ago traffic came from terms like:

Banners Broker
Is Banners Broker legit?
Make money with Banners Broker
Banners Broker success
XXX per month Banners Broker

The majority of traffic now comes from…

Banners Broker no payments
Banners Broker scam
Banners Broker slow panels
Banners Broker not paying
Banners Broker ponzi
Report banners broker
Banners Broker fraud
Raj Dixit fraud
Chris Smith scammer

If search traffic is an indicator of public sentiment, that sentiment has most definitely turned sour.

Oh, and while checking blog stats, I’ve noticed multiple visits from anti-fraud agencies in Holland, India and Canada. Including the office of the General Attorney in Canada (searching for info on a ‘Banners Broker scam’ no less).

Say what you like, trolls and shills.

The net is closing, and your game is almost up"

great news finch, well done