Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Like sharkeyshark who was going to polish you off in one gulp.

Sharkeyshark is just one of many scammers in the club of those who promised to polish me off.....

And just this week we added the newest member to the club.....

For those who have not read it yet it seems that a scammer in the USA wants to sue me for calling him a scammer......

http://www.realscam.com/f9/integrity...html#post44181

Originally Posted by noname999

Why would I put all my money into something that I know is a scam?

Never a smart move to ask the question if you not going to like the answer

Originally Posted by okosh

For those who have not read it yet it seems that a scammer in the USA wants to sue me for calling him a scammer......

http://www.realscam.com/f9/integrity...html#post44181

Wouldn't ya just love it if one of those wombats ever decided to walk the talk and actually follow through with their B/S threats ???

Can you imagine Goddie Ude on the front page of the local paper explaining how his recommending and participating in HYIP ponzi fraud aligns with his Christian beliefs ???

Originally Posted by Theseus

Edited for truth

I can understand why Roger's a little upset. He came late to the game, and only just received his BB mastercard in Sept 2012. So he'd be rushing to con as many victims as possible before the collapse. How inconsiderate of the people here to get in the way of his masterplan.

Originally Posted by Unknown_S

I can understand why Roger's a little upset. He came late to the game, and only just received his BB mastercard in Sept 2012. So he'd be rushing to con as many victims as possible before the collapse. How inconsiderate of the people here to get in the way of his masterplan.

Lest anyone forgets just what a complete tool Roger is....

Banners Broker Update - Card has arrived !!!! - YouTube

Not sure how much influence this site has but came across this article

The Suspicious Case of Banners Broker

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Not sure how much influence this site has but came across this article

The Suspicious Case of Banners Broker

Need an account to view the article....

Waverider

I wanted to go back to your issue of audited accounts. You say that this wouldn't be good enough evidence for 'us'.

I disagree as this would give good evidence of what is happening with the money and would be audited by a big accounting firm.

However, it appears that by basing themselves how they do they deliberately avoid any talk of audited accounts etc. Surely it would be worth having this done if only for the publicity benefit.

Genuine companies have nothing to be afraid of.

Originally Posted by Theseus

Need an account to view the article....

I know but it took two mins to register.

When on computer will post article. Was more interested in the credibility of the site and if it is a well known one.

Stokes again - a retired Chartered Accountant approves BB and knows all about MLM.


Banners Broker Accountant Interview - Video Dailymotion

More members of the 'golden generation'

Banners Broker on DailyMotion

Originally Posted by littleroundman

How appropriate that Stokes' eyes are closed, that's how most of his aged victims go into BB....

Originally Posted by okosh

Never a smart move to ask the question if you not going to like the answer

I just wish I was as clever as you.

Hi from nz to all the intelligent bloggers I got to know before I was forced outside into the gorgeous nz summer sun ,,,,,,,,,,,,,Clearly the cold miserable weather is affecting the mood and content of this forum........... thankfully I found very informative posts with quality sources provided to guide my own due diligence during 2012 when bannersbroker first arrived down here.............I fear for my fellow kiwis who are full of the hype of bb at the crucial 2 year+ point............

Those I remember...................poyol, philhendy, theseus, eagleone, hypanor, Brenda, martin88 ....to name a few but particularly those in uk etc. (where is IS NOT 1.30 AM!!! and back to work/schools etc. business as usual in just a few hours, the worst Monday morning ever!!! , summer fun is over ) ..........can I ask you guys to have a look at this site I found earlier..........
Hi! Would you perhaps know if Banners Broker International - JustAnswer..........not a nz site but comes up when I do a google.co.nz search as most new believers here will be running

certainly seems to me legal expert could update her response.......can you who know how please re-explain (for the benefit of the new believers) what info is credible and not ....eg whois, better business beauau, etc. what are these and what do they mean....... I read all the posts before I started posting as kiwichicknz but now 317 pages is a big ask!!! but a credit to realscam overall........the most recent pages appear now as just there is many pages of blah blah blah easily discredited when first googling for answers.........I always check the googlenz search for bannersbroker and would appreciate very much any regulars help to save the kiwi........and yes for those of you who aren't aware our native bird the kiwi is at risk of extinction.....save the kiwis who are probably the last few currently getting sucked in ........
any update from Australia on the facebook dissapperance?

Originally Posted by okosh

Thank you Judy for that trip down memory lane.......

For those wanting to read more about it.....Program was called 15hits daily and the name tri-star was also used.....
IMO that scam and Robert Krimm were way ahead of their time.....If started today it could have been one of the biggest ever.....
LOL...I wish I'd have bought some of them Tri-Star coffee mugs when I had the chance

I have just discovered another story about a master criminal which I had missed on PatrickPretty blog The unfortunate John Gaze who escaped with his life when Sasha DeHoughton kidnapped him and tried to rob him of his stately home was pre Internet but it is a brilliant illustation of how Police and other legal authorities do get the bastards in the end. If people come forward and report the facts there is no need to be scared.

I have just placed a comment on PatrickPretty blog and invited people who have encountered people like Sasha DeHoughton, BobKrimm and BannersBroker scumbags, who think the law will never catch up with them, to join RealScam. They do not get away with it. DeHoughton is rotting in jail with the likes of TrevorCook and AndyBowdoin. The story of John Gaze's escape when he ran naked into the street and reported the crime makes me shudder as it could have been me or my husband that the man wanted to kidnap and murder.

Patrick's article

BannersBroker – Corporate Message Terminations
and this one came up as well ............thought they weren't an advertising company mr stern?


Banners Broker – Corporate Message Terminations

by Ted Nuyten on September 6, 2012

Terminations

I am not very pleased with an online opportunity were corporate management is hiding. Banners Broker is such an UK – Canada based online opportunity and I observed a lot of former Zeeklers went in. Time will learn if Banners Broker is legit. I have my doubts but I am not specialized in legit or not-legit. You decide.

Anyway in July 2012 Chris Smith founder and CEO has send this message out:

Dear BB Affiliates,

There comes a time in business where difficult decisions have to be made for the betterment and longevity of the organization. Kuldip Josun, our VP of Corporate Sales has been relieved of his duties and is no longer affiliated with Banners Broker or any Banners Broker partner companies.

It has become apparent that the direction Mr. Josun wanted to proceed with is not the same vision of Banners Broker. Banners Broker is an online advertising company and will grow in the direction of providing online sales and marketing tools.

We wish Mr. Josun the best of luck in his future endeavours.

To address some important points, first and foremost, it is business as usual for all Affiliates, Leaders, Resellers and Independent Contractors. Chris Smith is the sole owner of Banners Broker International since inception and is the sole signing officer for the Banners Broker International bank accounts.

As we continue to grow, Rajiv Dixit will be handling corporate sales for the interim, and we will be hiring a new on-the-road sales and presentation specialist for long term. Due to a breach of contract, Mr. John Rock is no longer assisting Banners Broker Canada with compliance and is no longer affiliated with Banners Broker or any Banners Broker partner. All decisions that have been made are final.

We are extremely excited about the 2nd convention on Sunday, July 15th and we are expecting a huge crowd. This convention will be bigger and better than the first. Looking forward to seeing all of you there!

Sincerely,
Chris Smith,
CEO Banners Broker International

and close up photos of all
Chris Smith Founder and CEO Banners Broker Ian Driscoll Banners Broker Kuldip Josun Rajiv Dixit Banners Broker
Chris Smith – CEO Ian Driscoll – Sales Kuldip Josan Rajiv Dixit

interesting how 'chris smith' apart from the bs he also refers to himself in the third person?

Originally Posted by okosh

Sharkeyshark is just one of many scammers in the club of those who promised to polish me off.....

And just this week we added the newest member to the club.....

For those who have not read it yet it seems that a scammer in the USA wants to sue me for calling him a scammer......

http://www.realscam.com/f9/integrity...html#post44181

BobKrimm, TerryThe W no Sorry "TerryThe Banker," NickSmirnow, Bogdan Fiedur, Diane Bjorling and a few others are fond of this game. We will have fun when the case comes up in court. Hope it is in UK as we could have lunch at some of the fascinating little wine bars around Lincolns Inn fields or the Inns of Court!

Originally Posted by kiwichick

BannersBroker – Corporate Message Terminations
and this one came up as well ............thought they weren't an advertising company mr stern?


Banners Broker – Corporate Message Terminations

by Ted Nuyten on September 6, 2012

Terminations

I am not very pleased with an online opportunity were corporate management is hiding. Banners Broker is such an UK – Canada based online opportunity and I observed a lot of former Zeeklers went in. Time will learn if Banners Broker is legit. I have my doubts but I am not specialized in legit or not-legit. You decide.

Anyway in July 2012 Chris Smith founder and CEO has send this message out:

Dear BB Affiliates,

There comes a time in business where difficult decisions have to be made for the betterment and longevity of the organization. Kuldip Josun, our VP of Corporate Sales has been relieved of his duties and is no longer affiliated with Banners Broker or any Banners Broker partner companies.

It has become apparent that the direction Mr. Josun wanted to proceed with is not the same vision of Banners Broker. Banners Broker is an online advertising company and will grow in the direction of providing online sales and marketing tools.

We wish Mr. Josun the best of luck in his future endeavours.

To address some important points, first and foremost, it is business as usual for all Affiliates, Leaders, Resellers and Independent Contractors. Chris Smith is the sole owner of Banners Broker International since inception and is the sole signing officer for the Banners Broker International bank accounts.

As we continue to grow, Rajiv Dixit will be handling corporate sales for the interim, and we will be hiring a new on-the-road sales and presentation specialist for long term. Due to a breach of contract, Mr. John Rock is no longer assisting Banners Broker Canada with compliance and is no longer affiliated with Banners Broker or any Banners Broker partner. All decisions that have been made are final.

We are extremely excited about the 2nd convention on Sunday, July 15th and we are expecting a huge crowd. This convention will be bigger and better than the first. Looking forward to seeing all of you there!

Sincerely,
Chris Smith,
CEO Banners Broker International

and close up photos of all
Chris Smith Founder and CEO Banners Broker Ian Driscoll Banners Broker Kuldip Josun Rajiv Dixit Banners Broker
Chris Smith – CEO Ian Driscoll – Sales Kuldip Josan Rajiv Dixit

interesting how 'chris smith' apart from the bs he also refers to himself in the third person?

thanks Kiwi!
Never heard of John Rock before so did a little googling myself, seems himself and Kul are bossom buddies and leading a new healthier (cough) lifestyle

The Owners |

and here's a little of what is being said about their new venture, Sisel

http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=33589

population of toronto c6,000,000. Hardly a coincidence that most involved in BB are living beside each other, Pickering , Oshawa, Whitby.

and a little bit more on ex BB;s head of compliance, lol

Business Profiles and Company Information | ZoomInfo.com

Pyramid Scheme Alert

when we can find out the backgrounds so easily about this so called guru's of their trade, used by BB to establish of all things, credibility, one can only imagine what really lurks behind the secret life of Chris Smith, mystery man extraordinaire!

Originally Posted by okosh

Thank you Judy for that trip down memory lane.......

For those wanting to read more about it.....Program was called 15hits daily and the name tri-star was also used.....
IMO that scam and Robert Krimm were way ahead of their time.....If started today it could have been one of the biggest ever.....
LOL...I wish I'd have bought some of them Tri-Star coffee mugs when I had the chance

I think "wiseowl" was an Aussie. They all thought she could not be prosecuted as the rest of the thugs were North American and "wiseow" was too far away to be connected to any North American scams.

Nancetta knows a fair bit about "wiseowl." Hope she will spill some beans!

Have you seen this mug shot as it is rather well photographed.

She was going to sue me but the writ has not arrived yet.

Wiseowl.

Here's another photo of Chris Smith, this time with a Polish (I think he is) affiliate at the new Stellar Point offices. Please note the sophisticated surroundings. And the ladder, to the left, is a nice touch.


bb 3rd Feb pic.jpg

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Not sure how much influence this site has but came across this article

The Suspicious Case of Banners Broker

The Suspicious Case of Banners Broker
Published: 31 January 2013

Ever since it was founded in 2010 by Chris Smith and Kul Josun, there has been a cloud of suspicion hanging low over Banners Broker with people questioning the legality of the Banners Broker system. In recent weeks this suspicion has gained traction globally as the Banners Broker business model, and the legitimacy thereof, came under scrutiny by governments and began to raise a few eyebrows.

Banners Broker is an online advertising agency based in Toronto, Canada, which currently operates in dozens of markets around the globe, including the US, Ireland, Poland, and India. The agency currently offers advertisers the opportunity to advertise their products on relevant, target-orientated websites, and, simultaneously offers publishers the opportunity to generate a secondary revenue stream by placing designated ads on selected pages. Affiliates are, however, encouraged to sign up to an Ad-Pub combo, which combines the benefits offered to advertisers and publishers and also supposedly offers ‘six ways to earn more’.

The legitimacy of the business model and opportunity has been called into question for numerous reasons:
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Usual stuff - ICF, India, Irish Press, Paul Stuffing Up (his four-fold return comment), not forthcoming about explaining the income model
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Is Banners Broker operating an illegal ponzi-style business model? Only time will tell. OBTAINER will be keeping a very close watch on developments at Banners Broker over the coming weeks.

Attempts were made by the OBTAINER editorial team to contact Banners Broker and Banners Broker Compliance Officer, David Hooker, for an interview. At time of publication, OBTAINER was unsuccessful in gaining a reply.

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Attempts were made by the OBTAINER editorial team to contact Banners Broker and Banners Broker Compliance Officer, David Hooker, for an interview. At time of publication, OBTAINER was unsuccessful in gaining a reply.

And yet Telflon Terry was more than happy to post reams and reams of utter gibberish here....

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Here's another photo of Chris Smith, this time with a Polish (I think he is) affiliate at the new Stellar Point offices. Please note the sophisticated surroundings. And the ladder, to the left, is a nice touch.


bb 3rd Feb pic.jpg

That shot was taken out in the warehouse, were they keep the produ....Umm, no, wait a second

PPBlog, thanks for the links regarding PFG and others. I had a trading account more than once with PFG and am grateful that I withdrew all of my funds both times.

With a background in trading currencies, I constantly warn other traders that funds are at 100% risk AT ALL TIMES in a trading account. The authorities simply cannot watch everyone. The PFG guy is 64 years old and will now be serving a 50-year federal sentence with no parole. What good will all of his ill-gotten gains do him now?

In BB's case, the fact that it may be "sophisticated" should indeed mean more jail time for those responsible should they be caught. What is scary to me is how many frauds are being perpetrated as we speak and the fraudsters have yet to be caught.

In the end, the attraction is "free" and "easy" money. Of course there is no such thing. Those like waverider who believe this nonsense are delusional at best. Then again, perception equals reality.

In spite of Terry Sterns hype in long, drawn out posts (that really say nothing by the way), there is zero "work" involved with BB. In addition, to say their purported ads are a "product" is insulting to anyone who is fair-minded and reasonably intelligent.

The sad truth is that now that we are in a global economy, there is probably a sucker born every nano second as opposed to every minute!

Mark