Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by littleroundman

There will be no "concrete proof" unless and until someone gets access to the inner workings of Banners Broker.

Spot on, and even if BB reveals the complete inner workings of their business model, complete with fully audited financials and everything, the critics will still not be convinced, and will continue to assert it's a scam, just as on the other side of the BB fence trying to prove it's a scam.

The only people who are benefiting from all this are the owners of this site, and the Finch blog site, who are riding high in the search engine rankings, and raking in good $$$ from ebook sales in the process. With almost 6500 posts here, you're a significant contributor to this site, and eagle-one should be sharing some of his profits with you and fellow posters with post counts so high. Just a thought...

Oh hell, I can't even stand it anymore. The '11 herbs and spices" turned out to be lying as much as your average ponzi pimp. The only things in KFC original recipe are milk, eggs, flour, salt, pepper, maltodextron and MSG.

Originally Posted by waverider

Spot on, and even if BB reveals the complete inner workings of their business model, complete with fully audited financials and everything, the critics will still not be convinced, and will continue to assert it's a scam, just as on the other side of the BB fence trying to prove it's a scam.

The only people who are benefiting from all this are the owners of this site, and the Finch blog site, who are riding high in the search engine rankings, and raking in good $$$ from ebook sales in the process. With almost 6500 posts here, you're a significant contributor to this site, and eagle-one should be sharing some of his profits with you and fellow posters with post counts so high. Just a thought...

I devoted 10 years of my life to calling out lying pigs like you, and have never gotten a dime for it. This site does not collect any revenue. Toss out any red herrings lately?

Originally Posted by waverider

You're just sinking the credibility of this forum down further

Now, isn't that a strange phenomena ??

According to a HYIP ponzi shill our "credibility" is sinking, yet, our member numbers and reader numbers are climbing.



Personally, I find the fact our trailing 3 month numbers show an increase as the number of Banners Broker victims desperately look for answers as to why their cash cow has dried up no coincidence.

Then again, unlike "waverider" I don't stand to profit or lose, whatever happens to Banners Broker members.

Hi, Gregg,

You might be right about the 'advertising hook' bit, but as for asserting my downline debating about suing me or kicking the crap out of me, I hate to say it, but you'll be sadly disappointed, as I have only two members in my team, as you can see from the below screen capture from my BB back office. Note that neither of them are paid-up members, as they show up as "free". At this stage in the BB game, I'm not interested in recruiting anyone, as my objective in joining BB was to prove to the rest of the world that it is in fact possible to earn revenue on-line WITHOUT recruiting a single member.

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I can confirm, however, that I am located in an area very close to a beach, about a 5 minute walk in fact, and since you've offered to give $100 to my favourite charity, may I ask you give it to this one, the Red Cross - Queensland Floods Appeal 2013 | Australian Red Cross - The Power Of Humanity - to help the people affected by the recent floods, particularly those in Bundaberg, which has copped it the worst. Please be a man of your word, Gregg, and back up that promise by posting your payment receipt here for all to see.

By the way, name-calling, by calling me "a lying sack of ****" is not very professional and does not add to the credibility of this forum, if you could kindly refrain from such childish actions, that would be muchly appreciated. I'd like to think we're all adults here, and that we're able to act rationally and make our comments, opinions, experiences and such in a professional manner without resorting to such childish tactics. Not that I'm complaining, keep going if you want to, you're just helping to sink the credibility of this forum, and by doing that you're not exactly helping the cause from your side of the BB fence.

Originally Posted by Gregg

I in fact do know what the 11 herbs and spices are, it was published in a book 20 years ago by someone who took a job at KFC, pocketed a bag of the batter mix, took it to a food lab and had it analyzed. As could any of their competitors done. (you can assume that many have really) The "big secret" is more advertising hook than anything. Ditto for Coca Cola, and just for giggles the biggest difference between it and Pepsi is the citric acid in one is derived from lemons, and the other oranges...... (the book is 'Big Secrets', available on Amazon)

Another problem is you think I am trying to prove anything to you. You're somewhere on that "Stupid to Greedy" scale where you're beyond any redemption and all I hope for you is either clawbacks or your downline debating whether to sue you or kick the crap out of you, so you might want to hope you recruited your family and not the guys at the local biker bar.

My intention here is preserve for the record what a lying sack of **** you are, and every post you make just provides more "empirical evidence" of that.

And I don't have the right kind of access here, but if the IP you're posting from resolves to an area with a beach, I'll give $100 to your favorite charity. LRM can you check that?

Not really a strange phenomena when one considers that BB ranks extremely high on Alexa, currently 437, which means you're riding off the back of the popularity of another site. There's a big difference between credibility and popularity, otherwise on the same token those of us on this side of the BB fence can just go out there saying that BB is legit and a company with credibility because of their high ranking on Alexa. That is simply not the case. Not a single person on this site, or Finch's, have any concrete evidence to prove whether BB is a scam or not, because none of us have direct access to the inner workings of the company, its business model and financials. What we do have here, however, are quite a number of unsubstantiated, yet compelling views and opinions from both sides of the fence, but no real proof.

For as long as BB's member numbers are increasing, so will your member numbers and reader numbers, as more people become exposed to BB, and search google for more information.

As you're one of the admins, may I suggest you consider making it a rule for people to refrain from irrational and unprofessional actions such as name-calling and the like?

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Now, isn't that a strange phenomena ??

According to a HYIP ponzi shill our "credibility" is sinking, yet, our member numbers and reader numbers are climbing.



Personally, I find the fact our trailing 3 month numbers show an increase as the number of Banners Broker victims desperately look for answers as to why their cash cow has dried up no coincidence.

Then again, unlike "waverider" I don't stand to profit or lose, whatever happens to Banners Broker members.

Originally Posted by waverider

As you're one of the admins, may I suggest you consider making it a rule for people to refrain from irrational and unprofessional actions such as name-calling and the like?

No,

insulting HYIP ponzi shills and pimps is what we do.

Originally Posted by Gregg

LRM can you check that?

Can I "prove" anything, no I can't.

Can I "reasonably assume" waverider is yet another incarnation of a Queensland based HYIP shill known to us all ??? Yes, I can.

Is said "waverider" leaving behind a trail of "clues" a blind man could follow ??? Yes, he/she is.

Am I convinced the trail is not deliberately laid ??? No, I'm not.

Do I care ???

Not in the least.

Banners Broker is "not paying" a great majority of its' victim/members.

Originally Posted by Finix

It's a fight you can't win. One scam goes down, ten more appear in its place.

Mundus vult decipi...

Originally Posted by waverider

Excellent post there okosh, and one that is muchly appreciated

Why thank you waverider.....You are too kind

FYI....The only thing I hate more than a shill who is fluent in "scammer talk" is an AUSSIE shill who is fluent in "scammer talk"

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Nice job 'Chris', manually looking after the payments for 300,000 affiliates all on your own! I'm guessing you can do it now by just pressing a button on your phone?

Seems strange that this computer prodigy couldn't have automated it more. It's so strange it almost seems...untrue?

Did you noticed that almost all ponzi like to speak about TRAINING?We have great training week....The training was outstanding...Great training day it was....it seems that BB needs only affiliates with special skills - 300 000 well trained specialst.Probably because of the hard work that is to be done in BB in aim to earn and because more and more needed waiting-patient-payments skills...and...we should not forget...gala parties around the world...dancing skills higly needed...and the training of all the trainings...to train people how to open back office and not to press the withdrawal knob.

Originally Posted by waverider

but since you show you're from beautiful Tasmania, why don't you look up that Super Granny - real name Mary Bosveld, she's located in a little town called Wynyard, she'd love to share her BB experiences with you over a cup of coffee, and reveal that she's being paid, and most of the time pretty much on-time, and she's continuing to build her team.

I did look her up....Then I looked up and contacted the Wynyard Police......Then I looked up the closest AFP(Aussie Federal Police) which is in Hobart....Then I looked up their online "report a crime" page....
https://forms.afp.gov.au/online_forms/report_a_crime

Then I looked up the date of the Wynyard Show(The whole town goes to the show)......Maybe I'll drive up there...With a bunch of flyers that has her name, address and how she steals money from innocent victims via the BB ponzi scheme....Might stick one to every pole in the town.....
I might even stand at the gate and hand one to every person as they enter the show....

Only thing I'm not sure about....Will I need 5000 flyers or 10000??......Maybe you can advise me....))

Originally Posted by waverider

My personal opinion on this, however, is that I believe your chances of getting that proof would be about the same as getting the Coca Cola company to reveal their drink's secret formula, or KFC to reveal what 11 herbs and spices they put on their chicken pieces...

Because proof that a company actually has a business is exactly the same as protecting a recipe or a bit of technology. Now I understand.

Food for thought for BB-lovers... Assuming I'm unsatisfied with my Google Adsense earnings, and assuming I therefor want a decent alternative for my Adsense account, and assuming Banners Brokers is not a ponzi, but a legit company with a sustainable business model, read: ad space is really bought, banners are really placed, profit is legal... When I Google for "Adsense alternatives" why is Banners Broker NOT appearing in any of the result lists I'm getting back from Google? Even on page 10 I don't see Banners Broker popping up in any of the lists presented. Why are all of these people NOT convinced of the Banners Broker model? Why is Banners Broker so clearly ignored by ALL online marketing and advertising specialists?

Originally Posted by Mundorf

Did you noticed that almost all ponzi like to speak about TRAINING?We have great training week....The training was outstanding...Great training day it was....it seems that BB needs only affiliates with special skills - 300 000 well trained specialst.Probably because of the hard work that is to be done in BB in aim to earn and because more and more needed waiting-patient-payments skills...and...we should not forget...gala parties around the world...dancing skills higly needed...and the training of all the trainings...to train people how to open back office and not to press the withdrawal knob.

Mundorf,

All this training means that the BB followers accelerate through the "BBelt" system (specially set up for followers). Top ranked is the Stealth Ninja award... that's when they are allowed to visit forums like this one here

Heading off on a tangent of my own, because I can. Someone somewhere put up a comment about Chris Smith dealing with the panel movement all on his own (remember he pressed the button at Dublin that got everyone so excited?). I think CS is the dogsbody who has had to "manually" make the changes to the panels. He's actually nobody important at all

PS I take I back - Waverider, can't you go off a surf elsewhere for a while?

@waverider, I agree with okosh, bannersbrokers is 100% legit and genuine, you should remortgage yourself up to the eyeballs, put in everything you have, in fact the return is so great it would make sense to finance it with creditcards, & payday loans, get your friends and family to max out their credit too, your gonna be richer than your wildest dreams, in one banners brokers video I saw that you can make 3 trillion dollars from BB if you put in 5000usd, (after 4 years because you see its not a get rich quick scheme) thats TRILLION which is a thousand billion, and I know thats the gods honest truth because it was even in a video on youtube, youtube is a global corporation like mastercard and they operate in every country and if they had a video of something that was a scam do you think they would still exist??? exactly!!!! BB is here to stay, anyone that thinks that it is a scam is gonna miss out big time, the internet is WORLDWIDE, there is unlimited growth, banners will be paying out So much money I just had to check on wikipedia to see what is more than a trillion, you know what is... Quadrillion! then Quintillion then all the way up to Centillion which has 303 "0" s! ... now THATS COOL! and banners brokers will be paying even much more than that, so while we are sluggin away at our day jobs , you will be living in a solid gold palace with your very own powerstation that burns 100 dollar bills to heat your olympic size outdoor pool in the winter... in Finland!, talk about changing lives!!! quickly waverider put in as much money as you can get your hands on, sell a kidney if you have too, sell the car, the house, ebay your clothes, go round to your friends houses and strip the copper from the walls an lead from the roofs and buy panels, they will thank you my friend!, hurry now, dont let the dreamstealers and the negative types get you down, this is your destiny! Chris Smith choose YOU my friend

Originally Posted by waverider

That's assuming that BB is in fact a scam, as is alleged here, however to this date there isn't a single shred of evidence both here and on the Finch blog that this is the case.

Nor is there evidence of ads. Any legitimate business has no problem proving so. BB is a ponzi. If it weren't true, you'd have proved it by now. If I sat here claiming Google was not the business they say they are, I could be proven wrong very quickly. But instead, I'll just sit here stating BB is a ponzi scam! ponzi! scam!!!¡¡¡! And you hate the fact there's nothing you can do about it. You can't shut me up, and you can't prove me wrong.

Ah waverider. You are such a liar. One minute your battery is running out and then you continue to post for two hours more. If you lie about the simple things, imagine the lies you are telling about the scam that has your money trapped.

Still waiting for you answer to how BB makes money. Not the story that a 16 year old (and more worryingly, you) would fall for. But an answer that actual adults with a brain would believe.

Originally Posted by waverider

That's assuming that BB is in fact a scam

That's the only realistic assumption one can make when dealing with online programs. How can they be anything else? To assume otherwise, you'd have to assume that (1) there are some unknown characters appearing out of nowhere who (2) have figured out the way of making returns no one else can make and that (3) they want to share it with the public out of the goodness of their hearts. But wait, they want YOUR money FIRST. Too many freaking assumptions.

Hello
Recently i was invited by a friend to look into banners broker.
I cannot find any mention of a external governing body to which BB are governed by on national or international level ?
I cannot find any trace of companies associated with BB (10 large brokers refused but 1 saw the oppertunity) still no name !
Thanks to you people providing this forum
Any BB supporters please show credible names of above

I could not really understand why you guys here are debating about BB...of course it is a ponzi program but BB has just become a little bit sophisticated to make the program last longer (or maybe become a little bit stable though many would be raising eyebrows here).

Now, you might say that am a critic of BB. No, I am also an investor in BB. I invested in there last April or May 2012 and so far I already got back my initial investment and some profits.

Is this a big ponzi? Yes, it is...no question on that. Let's call a ponzi a ponzi so that people will be careful if ever they would invest with BB.

Your honesty is refreshing.

Originally Posted by WealthBoy

Let's call a ponzi a ponzi so that people will be careful if ever they would invest with BB.

Sounds easy, doesn't it ???

All anyone would have to do is display a "This is a HYIP ponzi, play at your own risk" banner on the front page of their website and all the problems would be solved.

But of course, they're not.

Their intent is to steal as much money as possible from as many people as possible while pretending to be a legitimate business.

All the "shoulda, woulda, couldas" in the world can't disguise the fact Banners Broker (and any other HYIP ponzi) are fraudulent.

Indeed thanks for your honesty !
At a time when when tax revenues are at an all time low your due payment of capital gains (profits)will be greatly appreciated !