Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by waverider

Hit the nail on the head, Ashken1, what a bunch of thievin' bastards, I thought I'd be slugged the anticipated $35 fee about the time I received my BB card, on or around the time I received and activated the card, but SIX months down the track. That's it, shut them down. They're obviously a scam! How dare they give interest-free credit to their affiliates for 6 months on the $35 card fee???? I been a "premium member" since december but haven't been slugged the appropriate $100 per month premium member charge, just the once last month, but not retrospective for the previous five months. How dare they extend interest-free credit to their affiliates on fees and charges disclosed to them at the point of sale. I can only hope the authorities act swiftly on this unauthorized act of generosity.

Hey waverider, you're back!! How ya doin'?

Originally Posted by okosh

With the Zeek receiver now going after the net winners one can only hope that he doesn't let them off one cent.....Hope he makes them sell their assets to pay back the lot.....

By the time they are done paying Ira Sorkin to defend themselves from clawbacks, there might not be anything left to go after.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

The moment the Ken Russo's, Faith Sloans, Strosdegoz, Rayda Roundy, Sara Mattoon, Barb Alford, Laura Pont, Aaron-Shara, Barb McIntrye, Arnie Strom, Chad Foss, Brad Weinman, Terralynn Hoy, Todd Disner, Dwight Schweitzer, Robert Fava, Pastor Troy Winters, Clarence Busby, Nanci Jo Frazer, Frabi, racer, Blondie, and the list goes on and on are made to pay for their involvement, the sooner these Ponzi's will disappear.

That's wishful thinking. Scams were a part of the society from the moment the society existed. They will be a part of the society until the human race disappears from this planet.

Originally Posted by Beacon

But one does not have to become evil in order to understand evil.

See how you had to shift from "wrong" to "evil"? Those are very different concepts.

Originally Posted by Beacon

But more to the point I would argue BB management are aware of the wrong but chose to ignore it because they dont care about the harm they do to others if it wins them money.

The admins who get involved under their real names are stupid enough to believe their own BS about helping the little man and such. They are toys in the hands of big time players whose real names you will never see in the open.

Originally Posted by Finix

See how you had to shift from "wrong" to "evil"? Those are very different concepts.

Wrong

Noun
An unjust, dishonest, or immoral action.

Verb
Act unjustly or dishonestly toward (someone): "the people I have wronged"

Ponzis are wrong.

Originally Posted by Poyol

Ponzis are wrong.

I'm not disagreeing with this, but what does it add to the fact that they exist and will continue to exist?

Originally Posted by Finix

I'm not disagreeing with this, but what does it add to the fact that they exist and will continue to exist?

Nothing. Nothing at all.
It seemed as though you were defending Ponzis; I apologise.

Jason

What's wrong for one is right for another. UncleFesta will tell you that they are a nice wealth-redistribution mechanism, and in his own twisted way he is correct as well.

"Ponzies are illegal" is a much better framework for the discussion.

Ah waverider, welcome back. We have missed you. I've a very simple question for you. Hopefully you can answer it. Now that you are a premium member, I'm sure the words will flow easily:

How do BB make money?

(No cheating now, answer it yourself.)

Ah, here's a comment from my favourite BB affilate! Good to see he's still plugging away. Apparently he is boasting (but not to me) that he will soon have £100k in his e-wallet.

Yes, you idiot, but do you have it in your hand???

Interesting that anti BB blogs are now exercising the mind.



Yesterday's Bristol meeting presented by David Hooker was really worthwhile. A simple straight forward presentation to around 100 people with about a third of them being guests. Good news that the Company has committed to a 10 year lease on the new headquarters in Manchester; that's confidence for you for the long term.

My impression now is that the negative bloggers/scamming sites are a parasitic industry of their own; they feed on the life-blood of others. They make money by attracting as many people as possible to their sites, on which they also have adverts. So they get a click everytime someone goes there. It seems to me that the soundness of their information is not important, just so long as they can stay marginally within the libel laws. It's all based on the principle that people love finding anything negative, even when there is so much evidence to the contary, and particularly when it's a new idea. Did you know that when franchising first started it was considered a very dirty business model? And look at it now.

As the old saying goes, 'Dogs bark but the caravan moves on'. With membership having gone from 135,000 to some 300,000 in just four months let the dogs bark. The 1,000,000 members target is now in view, in my opinion.

Oh, and from the same affiliate's site, info divulged at a meeting in Bristol last night (I think 1st Jan 2013 is a typo and he means 1st Feb or 31st Jan - it has only been posted in the last 15 hours or so)

1st January 2013

MANCHESTER OFFCE

At Salford Quays, Manchester, on a 10 year lease. Opening on 25th February. Corporate training team will be over from Canada.

INTERNATIONAL OFFICES

David Hooker says that BB will be opening an office in Brazil in March and that there is now a Bangladeshi office and two in the West Indies, one of which is in Trinidad.


GROWTH

The business apparently went from some 135,000 to 300, 000 members in just four months! 1st target is 1,000,000 members.


INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION

The Convention will probably be either at the end of Jun or, in July this year, at Niagara Falls

Banners Broker Network News Update!

Great news the prepaid card payments are now fully automated. Going forward if your card is notarised you will be able to withdraw 4 times a month. Until recently Chris was manually taking care of all the payments and he honoured all payments requested on the same day. Now as this is automated request must be made 7 calendar days apart. For example if you wish to withdraw $10,000 you must request $2,500 every 7 days.

If you are availing of the ACS service you must submit a support ticket and they will look after your withdrawal.
Wednesday at 03:57 · 2

Nice job 'Chris', manually looking after the payments for 300,000 affiliates all on your own! I'm guessing you can do it now by just pressing a button on your phone?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

'Dogs bark but the caravan moves on'.

That sums it up pretty well as far as the 'industry' as a whole goes. However, when even the ponzi promoters say a program is dead, there is nothing that will resurrect it.

This scam is not dead. I don't know why you think it is.

Originally Posted by Finix

I'm not disagreeing with this, but what does it add to the fact that they exist and will continue to exist?

It adds the determination to fight the wrong whenever it is possible

Originally Posted by Finix

That's wishful thinking. Scams were a part of the society from the moment the society existed. They will be a part of the society until the human race disappears from this planet.

I agree.But first you must build ideal condition,aim if you want to take maximum from your doings

Originally Posted by Mundorf

It adds the determination to fight the wrong whenever it is possible

It's a fight you can't win. One scam goes down, ten more appear in its place. I would look into legalizing the online 'industry', so that it can be removed from the sphere of criminal enterprise, taxed and regulated, but I don't think people are ready for that.

Originally Posted by Finix

It's a fight you can't win. One scam goes down, ten more appear in its place. I would look into legalizing the online 'industry', so that it can be removed from the sphere of criminal enterprise, taxed and regulated, but I don't think people are ready for that.

Yes you right but if the people are not ready for that you might think ,legalizing the online industry is a fight you can't win and jet you are suggesting in fact good thing...I just wanted to say..any fight is good - it opens the door for the fight we could win

Originally Posted by Finix

It's a fight you can't win. One scam goes down, ten more appear in its place. I would look into legalizing the online 'industry', so that it can be removed from the sphere of criminal enterprise, taxed and regulated, but I don't think people are ready for that.

I'll help to try and keep cutting the Hydra's heads off as much as I can.
Someone has to try and help - if we all took the same approach ... well, who knows.

Jason

Originally Posted by Mundorf

it opens the door for the fight we could win

That's true. You can keep telling people that what they are walking into is a criminal enterprise and that it can ruin their lives in more ways that they can imagine and regardless of whether they make money or lose money. Some might even listen.

Good news that the Company has committed to a 10 year lease on the new headquarters in Manchester;

Yeah, right.

Banners Broker have ripped off around 100,000 people for multiple millions of dollars and they are going to be worried about reneging on a 10 year lease.

Only a HYIP ponzi member could see an announcement like that as meaning anything.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Yup you're right, I was missing the point: can you explain it a bit more please? Just for the benefit of anyone looking in.

Read the post following yours from Waverider. http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b...html#post44146

There are still members who believe Banners Broker is a badly run legitimate company.

If it closes suddenly, they "may" complain to the authorities or, more than likely, hope someone else does it for them.

If Banners Broker do it this way, not only will none of them complain, many of the remaining members will accept Banners Brokers' explanations, blame themselves for not keeping the faith and probably follow their uplines into their "next big thing" opportunity

Discussions about the deeper meaning of life and Ponzi's would be better suited to another thread - this one is about Banners Broker. As I see it, sites like this serve two purposes - to gather information to inform the unwary or cautious (should they decide to read any of it), and to gather information on people actively promoting the scam on the off-chance some legal or civil action may one day occur. If in some parallel universe, Banners Broker turns out not to be a scam, well I'm sure they'll be pleased about the free adverts.

With that in mind, this Facebook page has 600+ followers so is worthy of being posted here... was there some talk somewhere of BB not operating in the US? Why was that?

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The page is administered by Laurence Bealer

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Originally Posted by Finix

That's true. You can keep telling people that what they are walking into is a criminal enterprise and that it can ruin their lives in more ways that they can imagine and regardless of whether they make money or lose money. Some might even listen.

I remember people asking Mr.Edison why was he trying and endless trying after 5000 experiments the mission that was impossible as they were thinking.He answered - Only I know 5000 reasons why the bulb is not working...so I think determination is the key word...sorry for being offtopic