Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Poyol

Actually, I take it back.

The website is dreadful - on a good website you should have to scroll ... unless it's a forum/blog of course!

Jason

I know nothing about website technical bits, but I just didn't like it. Amateurish is the word that sprang to mind.

Having had a look at the Q & A over on Finch's blog I have a question. It's about what Terry says about affiliates being required to run ad campaigns, and I quote

Furthermore, it’s currently being introduced that affiliates must have running campaigns as part of their businesses. This isn’t a ‘sit back and do nothing’ business, this business requires attention in order to work optimally, and since this business is about brokering ad space, it’s important the affiliate understands the business through utilization and application.

That's going to come as a bit of a shock to those affiliates who don't have a [insert word of suitable strength] clue about advertising and thought they'd got a business that will just pay out forever. Wonder how that will be policed. Wonder even more about what'll happen if you don't run campaigns.

Misrepresentation on the business initially?
Confiscated accounts anyone??

Originally Posted by littleroundman

WOW.
Groundbreaking - bet no one else thought of that!!

Originally Posted by Poyol

WOW.
Groundbreaking - bet no one else thought of that!!

We definitely need a sarcasm font on here....


Does anyone know if all the payments to affiliates went through ok? Wondering if Tel's offering is in lieu??

has anyone else seen this on Finch? Someone posted it there. Wish there was a way of finding out if it's 'our' Smith!

OSC | OSC Proceedings - Before the Commission

Originally Posted by Brenda

has anyone else seen this on Finch? Someone posted it there. Wish there was a way of finding out if it's 'our' Smith!

OSC | OSC Proceedings - Before the Commission

I've come across that in the past.
There was no way to link it to THE Chris Smith, so I omitted it.

Jason

Originally Posted by Poyol

I've come across that in the past.
There was no way to link it to THE Chris Smith, so I omitted it.

Jason

I did some digging into that CS, it's just a coincidence, and by that I mean a genuine coincidence, not like the one where all of SP's clients' websites were registered by the same person, using the phone number, email and postal addresses, despite being in different countries. Or the one where they all share names with other genuine companies in the same field in other countries.

Not a coincidence like that at all.

Originally Posted by okosh

Rather then put Finix on ignore you should look to learn from her......

Okosh is right about Finix Jason. She is clever but irritating as she uses her brains to argue the toss rather than help in the destruction of ponzis. I would not describe Finix as a mate or a friend but I will describe her as a "clever cow." and a force that should never be underestimated.

If she decides that she wants to help the group to destroy BB she would be a huge asset.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Okosh is right about Finix Jason. She is clever but irritating as she uses her brains to argue the toss rather than help in the destruction of ponzis. I would not describe Finix as a mate or a friend but I will describe her as a "clever cow." and a force that should never be underestimated.

If she decides that she wants to help the group to destroy BB she would be a huge asset.

curious now, who is this Finix?

I need some help.I found this on FinchSells.com regarding Chris Smith.However I am not quite sure is the person our Smith.It seems that some investigation was done against him and some others.Here is the text:

[33] With respect to Smith:

(a) It is hereby ordered, pursuant to section 127 of the Act, that:

i. The Settlement Agreement dated January 15, 2009, between Staff of the Commission and Christopher Smith is approved;

ii. The Respondent is prohibited for five years from becoming or acting as a director or officer of any issuer, registrant or investment fund manager commencing on the date of this order; and,

iii. The Respondent is prohibited for five years from becoming or acting as a registrant commencing on the date of this order.

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Ha, even Paul 'Da Interrnet' McCarthy likes Finch's blog!

It's a different Paul McCarthy, but never let facts get in the way of a good story.

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This lady seems to know whio is supporting BB advertising.

Originally Posted by Beacon

BB comment 31Jan2013.jpg
This lady seems to know whio is supporting BB advertising.

Mazda must really like BB, they're down on the list twice.


Either that or Clara is an idiot.



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"Help full info on BB Card withdrawals

There has been an upgrade in the system. Due to this upgrade there were some pending withdrawals that got cancelled. Please don't be alarmed to this as we have implemented a new feature to the withdrawal to BB Card.

The following will help explain why the withdrawal was cancelled.

If you are NOTARIZED.
Yes you can withdraw 4 times in a month however you can only make 1 withdrawal every 7 calendar days. for example:

Jan 1st you made a withdrawal
Jan 8th you can make your 2nd withdrawal
Jan 15th you can make your 3rd withdrawal
Jan 22nd you can make your 4th withdrawal

If your withdrawal are under 7 days of each other than the withdrawals with automatically be cancelled.

Hope this answers your concern.

Regards,"

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So users who want to withdraw the maximum amount now have to place one request every week, but they have to time the request to perfection else the system will revolt and cancel all withdrawals?

Seems legit.

Originally Posted by Martin88

"Help full info on BB Card withdrawals

There has been an upgrade in the system. Due to this upgrade there were some pending withdrawals that got cancelled. Please don't be alarmed to this as we have implemented a new feature to the withdrawal to BB Card.

The following will help explain why the withdrawal was cancelled.

If you are NOTARIZED.
Yes you can withdraw 4 times in a month however you can only make 1 withdrawal every 7 calendar days. for example:

Jan 1st you made a withdrawal
Jan 8th you can make your 2nd withdrawal
Jan 15th you can make your 3rd withdrawal
Jan 22nd you can make your 4th withdrawal

If your withdrawal are under 7 days of each other than the withdrawals with automatically be cancelled.

Hope this answers your concern.

Regards,"

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So users who want to withdraw the maximum amount now have to place one request every week, but they have to time the request to perfection else the system will revolt and cancel all withdrawals?

Seems legit.

I'd imagine calling this into question would also fall foul of the t&cs and lead to the account being forfeited....

Originally Posted by Theseus

I'd imagine calling this into question would also fall foul of the t&cs and lead to the account being forfeited....

Yes well isn't that the whole point. Forfeit as many accounts as possible as soon as possible, then there may be some money for all the other poor people trying to get money out. No change is it.

Originally Posted by Martin88

"Help full info on BB Card withdrawals

There has been an upgrade in the system. Due to this upgrade there were some pending withdrawals that got cancelled. Please don't be alarmed to this as we have implemented a new feature to the withdrawal to BB Card.

The following will help explain why the withdrawal was cancelled.

If you are NOTARIZED.
Yes you can withdraw 4 times in a month however you can only make 1 withdrawal every 7 calendar days. for example:

Jan 1st you made a withdrawal
Jan 8th you can make your 2nd withdrawal
Jan 15th you can make your 3rd withdrawal
Jan 22nd you can make your 4th withdrawal

If your withdrawal are under 7 days of each other than the withdrawals with automatically be cancelled.

Hope this answers your concern.

Regards,"

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So users who want to withdraw the maximum amount now have to place one request every week, but they have to time the request to perfection else the system will revolt and cancel all withdrawals?

Seems legit.

Hey good article and debunk of TS.

One question no-one asked (maybe you did) is how many affiliates are actually seeking to withdraw money each month? Not all of them are going to be doing that.

Side comment on the 120 odd countries - how many affiliates in each country? Could be 10 in Sweden for example...

Originally Posted by Theseus

Mazda must really like BB, they're down on the list twice.


Either that or Clara is an idiot.



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Am sure those prestige companies will be highly delighted to be connected to BB. Hope someone will be informing them of this wonderful new opportunity?

Originally Posted by Mundorf

I need some help.I found this on FinchSells.com regarding Chris Smith.However I am not quite sure is the person our Smith.It seems that some investigation was done against him and some others.Here is the text:

[33] With respect to Smith:

(a) It is hereby ordered, pursuant to section 127 of the Act, that:



i. The Settlement Agreement dated January 15, 2009, between Staff of the Commission and Christopher Smith is approved;

ii. The Respondent is prohibited for five years from becoming or acting as a director or officer of any issuer, registrant or investment fund manager commencing on the date of this order; and,

iii. The Respondent is prohibited for five years from becoming or acting as a registrant commencing on the date of this order.

Mundorf, looks like this is a red herring. You;d have to wonder why someone would introduce this red herring, distraction ??

Originally Posted by Theseus

Mazda must really like BB, they're down on the list twice.


Either that or Clara is an idiot.



Cast your votes.......

she meant toyota toyota ;)

On a serious note, can't tell you guys how much I enjoy reading your debunking of BB on a technical level. Reading the Finch/Stern exchange, it seems I totally understand Martin's q's/ rebuttal, can't still make head or tail of Stern's. Is it just me???

However, while all this is etching away, hopefully, in the credibility of BB, one thing screams out at me. For a company alleged to be doing this kind of business, at these kinds of levels, would require a huge back office support system. All these intense negotiations with networks would require a team of experts, the massive IT team that could support what is alleged, the amount of customer support needed to attend to 300,000 affiliates, quite simply is NOT coming out of that building in Carlow Court. It's neither currently designed for it, or housing that level of staff.

We have Stern, Hooker, Smith, Dixit, Farquason (sp?) We can find only one job advert for an IT person dating back to Sept 12. When you consider everything else, it's just not believable.

The entire world economy is a ponzi. So what is the big deal.

Originally Posted by Brenda

curious now, who is this Finix?

Finix has been around the forums for longer than most although she is still a young woman. Her debating skills and talents made a big impression on me when I was a TalkGold Naysyer but she made a fatal mistake when she joined forces with one who calls himself Uncle Festa. Festa is better known here as "festering boil." He has got himself banned from almost all money forums including RS.

Finix and boil still taunt one another on WorldLawDirect but that forum seems to have gone to the dogs so she has joined us. However her coments here usually cause friction which is a pity becuse she could be so much use. I think Eagle and okosh know her better than most. SBM gritted her teeth and showed restraint when I have spoken to her on the telephone and asked her about Finix.

She may have been a member of scam.com and made a name for herself over there.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

If she decides that she wants to help the group to destroy BB she would be a huge asset.

There is nothing to destroy. This Titanic is going down on its own. The HYIPers have spoken:

Originally Posted by strosdegoz

After few questions it even gets bored.
Is like getting stabbed on the next over and over.

This Terry Sterm guy is BS and this is already way over its time.

BB is dead.

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