Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Grandão

If you click on Adverts from the Bannersbroker Network, you are presented:

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Which is linked to:

Ad Seller Pro - An advertising selling and placment system for SMF. Intergrated with PayPal IPN. People can buy ad banners or create their own custom text ad

It's a desperate, last-ditch attempt to make it look as if the AdSellerPro banners are actually from the "Banners Broker Network".

The official line is that there is no way of knowing which websites your adverts are on or which banners belong to BB because it's all done through another broker on a "blind network".

I know you're reading this, Iain, so, seriously, give it up, you're just no good at this sort of attempted deception. It might fool a few hard of thinking members of your own forum, but in the real world the "adverts from the Banners Broker Network" link would go to an official page describing what the network is and how to advertise on it, not just to a blank page on the same website as the banner is displayed....

Originally Posted by noname999

R.I.P. The biggest UK Lowriding Character. - Index

What a tool...

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Originally Posted by Theseus

It's a desperate, last-ditch attempt to make it look as if the AdSellerPro banners are actually from the "Banners Broker Network".

The good news for him is that Ad Seller Pro works with PayPal, so swift payments guaranteed...

Originally Posted by Grandão

This is the html-script...

<noscript><iframe id="41b3bfcd2beb9" name="41b3bfcd2beb9" src="http://ox-d.bannersbroker.com/w/1.0/afr?auid=334965&cb=1006602209" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" width="728" height="90"><a href="http://ox-d.bannersbroker.com/w/1.0/rc?cs=41b3bfcd2beb9&cb=1006602209" ><img src="http://ox-d.bannersbroker.com/w/1.0/ai?auid=334965&cs=41b3bfcd2beb9&cb=1006602209" border="0" alt=""></a></iframe></noscript>
<br /><a href="http://uklows.com/forum/index.php?action=adpro;sa=buyadspace">Adverts from the Bannersbroker Network</a><img src="http://uklows.com/forum/index.php?action=adpro;sa=v&amp;id=1&amp;l=1&amp;m =0&amp;t=1359290332" alt="" /></div>
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ox-d is the free Openx service that anyone can use. Go to ox-d.bannersbroker.com and you will see it is operated by Openx. You or I could do the same on our own website, in a matter of minutes.

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

1 - They are in partnership with Google (obviously not!)

In the AdSurfDaily Ponzi scheme, one of ASD's deepest thinkers concocted a scheme by which ASD would announce an "agreement" with Google, suggesting it was a partnership worked out by two advertising giants. The ASD troops were told to spread the word far and wide. What it actually was was a bid to make ASD members part of a conspiracy to commit large-scale click fraud against Google and its advertisers. Put another way, Adsense code was placed on ASD-related pages so ASD -- a purported "advertising" company affiliates described as the next Google or a company better than Google -- could "earn" fraudulent click revenue.

The Secret Service has said that HYIP schemes continuously evolve. Longtime observers know that to be the case.

BB strikes me as an enterprise that has formed a hybrid out of the core business models of ASD, JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid and a JSS/JBP knockoff abomination known as JSS Tripler 2 or T2, purportedly operated by "Dave."

"Dave" purportedly had a business partner known as "Chris." When payments weren't being made, "Dave" blamed "Chris." Like BB, the T2 scheme featured purported globetrotting. When the scheme started teetering, "Dave" purportedly was building a slew of websites that would be sold for enormous profits to keep the T2 scheme afloat.

I think it is probable that BB and/or key members are hoping to create websites and use them as "proof" that a "blind network" actually exists.

If one takes a look at Zeek Rewards, it, too, had a purported "advertising" element. It was obvious that "ads" for Zeek were being placed on any number of low-traffic sites, including sites that published classified ads.

BB also reminds me of certain aspects of the Legisi HYIP fraud case. Legisi pitchman Matthew Gagnon now has judgments against him totaling in the millions of dollars for turning a blind eye to Legisi and other fraud schemes. Here is a quote from one of the judgments against Gagnon (italics added):

“[Gagnon] explained that ‘I have a trader I represent in Europe that can trade your funds in a managed account.’ Gagnon promised that investors in the European Trade Offer would experience ‘consistent monthly profits’ and ‘very few losing trades.’ Apparently, the European trader is ‘Juju,’ who is Jjunju Kateregga, a Ugandan national residing in Finland. Gagnon promoted Juju’s trading prowess after meeting him on the internet, exchanging emails and talking to him on the phone ‘a few times.’”

PPBlog

Originally Posted by SwissSkyBlue

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BIG REPORT ABOUT BANNER ADS ON SWISS MAIN NEWS PROGRAM

Obviously nobody told them about Banners Brokers infinite amount of invisible advertisers and publishers to accomodate the infinite list of affiliates they are signing up to double their infinite amount of cash

​I just visited our old mate Iain's site at who got snow then homies - UKLows

His Ads are from appnexus NOT BANNERS BROKER however the Drones will now no doubt say that Banners Broker are in partnership with appnexus even though nobody in the entire world has mentioned appnexus in relation to Banners Broker before as far as I know.

Here is what appnexus say about themselves AppNexus &mdash; Analysis by Ghostery

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A Couple of the Ads I seen there.

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Oh! and just to add here is something Banners Broker don't do. LEADERSHIP TEAM | AppNexus

See Chris & Terry if your company is on the level this info don't have to be top secret like Baners Broker says it needs to be.

Originally Posted by PPBlog

In the AdSurfDaily Ponzi scheme, one of ASD's deepest thinkers concocted a scheme by which ASD would announce an "agreement" with Google, suggesting it was a partnership worked out by two advertising giants. The ASD troops were told to spread the word far and wide. What it actually was was a bid to make ASD members part of a conspiracy to commit large-scale click fraud against Google and its advertisers. Put another way, Adsense code was placed on ASD-related pages so ASD -- a purported "advertising" company affiliates described as the next Google or a company better than Google -- could "earn" fraudulent click revenue.

The Secret Service has said that HYIP schemes continuously evolve. Longtime observers know that to be the case.

BB strikes me as an enterprise that has formed a hybrid out of the core business models of ASD, JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid and a JSS/JBP knockoff abomination known as JSS Tripler 2 or T2, purportedly operated by "Dave."

"Dave" purportedly had a business partner known as "Chris." When payments weren't being made, "Dave" blamed "Chris." Like BB, the T2 scheme featured purported globetrotting. When the scheme started teetering, "Dave" purportedly was building a slew of websites that would be sold for enormous profits to keep the T2 scheme afloat.

I think it is probable that BB and/or key members are hoping to create websites and use them as "proof" that a "blind network" actually exists.

If one takes a look at Zeek Rewards, it, too, had a purported "advertising" element. It was obvious that "ads" for Zeek were being placed on any number of low-traffic sites, including sites that published classified ads.

BB also reminds me of certain aspects of the Legisi HYIP fraud case. Legisi pitchman Matthew Gagnon now has judgments against him totaling in the millions of dollars for turning a blind eye to Legisi and other fraud schemes. Here is a quote from one of the judgments against Gagnon (italics added):

“[Gagnon] explained that ‘I have a trader I represent in Europe that can trade your funds in a managed account.’ Gagnon promised that investors in the European Trade Offer would experience ‘consistent monthly profits’ and ‘very few losing trades.’ Apparently, the European trader is ‘Juju,’ who is Jjunju Kateregga, a Ugandan national residing in Finland. Gagnon promoted Juju’s trading prowess after meeting him on the internet, exchanging emails and talking to him on the phone ‘a few times.’”

PPBlog

Perhaps the wonderkin brainchild of this scam will come down with dengue fever also. Or worse, the plague.

Here's an enterprising chap with a decidedly ol' skool BB approach:
"You can start with a moderate amount of money (including fees and taxes) and quite simply multiply that by two! Furthermore, you can do this again and again"... "Remember, it’s impossible to not make money."... "I will ensure you make money by tomorrow - Thats a promise!"... "This company is called Banners Broker. They buy and sell banners, which as you know are ads. This company is also very big. They have served over 6 billion ads and they currently pay one million dollars in commissions DAILY to all its agents (us)."

Be reassured, "It’s not a network marketing or pyramid/ponzi system. It also has nothing to do with HYIP or cyclers or matrixes."

Banners Broker System

However, if you like the idea of a cash cycler, he's got that covered too!
"There's never been a system on-line where someone was prepared to do the work for someone else, but in this system this is exactly what happens." Sounds legit.

The Rocket Cash Cycler Perspective

His BB schtick seems to be aimed especially at Arabic punters:

"Email : arabebannersbroker @gmail.com
skype:arabebannersbroker"

Plus there's all the usual on-line and social media accoutrements:

Banners Broker System | Banners Broker System

Lentrica

Amin Sadak

Some interesting observations about this chap in the Google apparatus. He may or may not be a twenty-four-year old female in Tunisia.

who deleted the last 3 pages from yesterday

what is going on

OK i think i know why the admin was having a discussion with a someone..i think it was a discussion and the pages might have been deleted a this someone said the N Word was used....ok clean start hope this someone does not come back

the discussion got heated

Off topic, unnecessarily inflammatory and inappropriate posts have been moved to THIS thread

For all those Banners Broker members who think that "incorporation" provides them with some form of protection and makes Banners Broker a "real registered business" here's what incorporation REALLY means and how cheap and quick it is to become incorporated on the Isle of Man:



Incorporation is designed to protect the shareholders and corporation owners.

First: Incorporation is NOT designed to protect those doing business with the corporation.

Second: Incorporation does NOT protect shareholders, owners or "members" in the event of criminal activity

AdSurf Daily and Zeek Rewards were both "incorporated" and "registered businesses"

Incorporation is NOT going to help victims of the Banners Broker fraud.



Under £2000 and 100,000 members think they are sending their money to a "legitimate" and "registered" business

As an aside for anyone interested in the history of HYIP ponzi frauds,

The AdSurf Daily equivalent of Banners Brokers' sixsigmamb / Bill Lucas was a failed car salesman by the name of Bob Guenther

The story is way too complex to go into in any depth, but, let's just say if Bob Guenther had a brother..................................

Another case of "yawn, seen it all before"

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Under £2000 and 100,000 members think they are sending their money to a "legitimate" and "registered" business

It is way cheaper if you shop around or buy already formed corporation and just apply for name change.
Note that directors and shareholders of corporations is confidential information in most offshores,
Getting a corporation with local pre-registered agent (+bank account(s))
is very juicy package, tax efficient, confidential and in a lot of cases does not even need identity checks.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

As an aside for anyone interetsed in the history of HYIP ponzi frauds,

The AdSurf Daily equivalent of Banners Brokers' sixsigmamb / Bill Lucas was a failed car salesman by the name of Bob Guenther

The story is way too complex to go into in any depth, but, let's just say if Bob Guenther had a brother..................................

Another case of "yawn, seen it all before"

There's a certain something about car linked occupations isn't there? Taxi drivers, garage mechanics, car salesmen. Wonder what it is that draws them to things like BB?

Originally Posted by NikSam

It is way cheaper if you shop around or buy already formed corporation and just apply for name change.
Note that directors and shareholders of corporations is confidential information in most offshores,
Getting a corporation with local pre-registered agent (+bank account(s))
is were juicy package, tax efficient, confidential and in a lot of cases does not even need identity checks.

Probably a whole lot easier to get one of these "off the shelf" companies than it is for some people to get a BB prepaid card. Bizarre isn't it?

BB collects scans of passports from members, bills with address.
You can only wonder whose identity they might use if they require.

I bet they have several Chris Smiths as members :)

Well, this clause from their polices and procedures shoud make all the members all warm and fuzzy inside and sleep well, and I quote:

"Section K (Affiliate & Client)
Exit clause
1.In the event of the company closing, the company reserves the right to sell or transfer the intellectual property, programming code, and membership database at its sole discretion."

Kind of puts a new spin on sending in all that personal information doesn't it.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

There's a certain something about car linked occupations isn't there? Taxi drivers, garage mechanics, car salesmen. Wonder what it is that draws them to things like BB?

The motor trade is full of bottom feeders, especially car sales. It's a very small step indeed from ripping people off for £5k for a clocked Mondeo to conning pensioners out of the last of their savings...

Hadn't noticed before, but according to their Facebook page BB Australia is a Bank / Financial Institution. I hope they've remembered to register themselves with the appropriate banking and financial services authorities. I'd hate for such a legit company to get into trouble over such an minor oversight.

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This could be their next way of getting a few extra quid in whilst they can (taken from Facebook)

I have subscribed for one Traffic Pack only per month. Why I have been charged TWO Traffic Packs this month? Please see the details: one on 23rd Jan 2013 and one on 27th Jan 2013.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

There's a certain something about car linked occupations isn't there? Taxi drivers, garage mechanics, car salesmen. Wonder what it is that draws them to things like BB?

I guess they are too easy to blag, with bait like this:

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Originally Posted by Beethoven

I guess they are too easy to blag, with bait like this:

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Can you make out the last few characters on the Porsche's license plate?

Jason

Originally Posted by Poyol

Can you make out the last few characters on the Porsche's license plate?

Jason

Here you go...

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