Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Some URLs of interest.

Admin Area

Publisher Admin Area

Advertiser Admin Area

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...,d.d2k&cad=rja

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Some will be of use to some members - and other links will be interesting.

Jason

Originally Posted by Theseus

What about the links between the Linkedin profile "Smith" and the email address used for the registrant of BB websites?

I was talking about

...through Facebook.

Whois 150cash.com

Registrant:
Ralph Farley
166 Huntersfield Dr
Ottawa, Ontario K1T3L9
Canada

Administrative Contact:
Farley, Ralph @gmail.com
166 Huntersfield Dr
Ottawa, Ontario K1T3L9
Canada
(613) 737-2992 Fax -- (613) 737-2992

Technical Contact:
Farley, Ralph @gmail.com
166 Huntersfield Dr
Ottawa, Ontario K1T3L9
Canada
(613) 737-2992 Fax -- (613) 737-2992

Same Google Analytics ID as bannersbroker.com

Jason

Domain: silverlineclub.com - Whois History

Cache Date: 2008-01-14
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Server: whois.godaddy.com
Created: 2007-09-13
Updated: 2007-10-22
Expires: 2008-09-13
Reverse Whois: Click on an email address we found in this whois record
to see which other domains the registrant is associated with:
csmith5000@rogers.com

Registrant:
Christopher Smith
110 Cumberland Street
Suite 201
Toronto, Ontario M5R3V5
Canada

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (Domain Names | The World's Largest Domain Name Registrar - GoDaddy.com)
Domain Name: SILVERLINECLUB.COM
Created on: 13-Sep-07
Expires on: 13-Sep-08
Last Updated on: 22-Oct-07

Administrative Contact:
Smith, Christopher csmith5000@rogers.com
110 Cumberland Street
Suite 201
Toronto, Ontario M5R3V5
Canada
6477240635 Fax -- 6617709988

Technical Contact:
Smith, Christopher csmith5000@rogers.com
110 Cumberland Street
Suite 201
Toronto, Ontario M5R3V5
Canada
6477240635 Fax -- 6617709988

thinking the second TS on linkedin is also our guy? His facebook page says he moved to Arkansas, Rheem Manufacturing have a place in Arkansas, big coincidence?

terry stern profiles | LinkedIn

About Rheem Manufacturing Company

did anyone read his older stories in facebook, Terry is a Hooker boy from Global Wealth Trade lol

totally explains his attitude, he knows exactly what's at stake here!

Originally Posted by Beacon

LOL! Why should they have to reassure affilliates if it does not depend on them. And all one needs to do to disprove this is log in a new fake account.
If you can Chris is lying. If you can't then the whole thing will collapse. Of course Chris will still be milking the monthly "registration fees" which his system demands on time even though the system wont be paying out.

Fascinating how all these scam ALWAYS retain the ability to take in people's cash. There is NEVER a problem there.

Originally Posted by Hypanor

I was talking about

I know plenty of people who own businesses that turnover millions of pounds in revenue that aren't on Linkedin, or Facebook, or any other social networking site.

They still exist though. The lack or existence of a Facebook account doesn't prove either way whether a person exists or not.

Originally Posted by Poyol

Domain: silverlineclub.com - Whois History

Cache Date: 2008-01-14
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Server: whois.godaddy.com
Created: 2007-09-13
Updated: 2007-10-22
Expires: 2008-09-13
Reverse Whois: Click on an email address we found in this whois record
to see which other domains the registrant is associated with:
csmith5000@rogers.com

Registrant:
Christopher Smith
110 Cumberland Street
Suite 201
Toronto, Ontario M5R3V5
Canada

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (Domain Names | The World's Largest Domain Name Registrar - GoDaddy.com)
Domain Name: SILVERLINECLUB.COM
Created on: 13-Sep-07
Expires on: 13-Sep-08
Last Updated on: 22-Oct-07

Administrative Contact:
Smith, Christopher csmith5000@rogers.com
110 Cumberland Street
Suite 201
Toronto, Ontario M5R3V5
Canada
6477240635 Fax -- 6617709988

Technical Contact:
Smith, Christopher csmith5000@rogers.com
110 Cumberland Street
Suite 201
Toronto, Ontario M5R3V5
Canada
6477240635 Fax -- 6617709988

In the above quote:

You can see that this website's Whois data in 2008 showed a Mr Christopher Smith at that address.

Jason

Originally Posted by Theseus

I know plenty of people who own businesses that turnover millions of pounds in revenue that aren't on Linkedin, or Facebook, or any other social networking site.

They still exist though. The lack or existence of a Facebook account doesn't prove either way whether a person exists or not.

Where did I say it did? It was a passing comment, made negatively for any passing readers. Not sure why you are making such a big deal about it... have you switched teams? ;-)

Originally Posted by Poyol

In the above quote:

You can see that this website's Whois data in 2008 showed a Mr Christopher Smith at that address.

Jason

Are you trying to show a link between that and 150cash? If so, you've lost me!

Originally Posted by Brenda

thinking the second TS on linkedin is also our guy? His facebook page says he moved to Arkansas, Rheem Manufacturing have a place in Arkansas, big coincidence?

terry stern profiles | LinkedIn

About Rheem Manufacturing Company

did anyone read his older stories in facebook, Terry is a Hooker boy from Global Wealth Trade lol

totally explains his attitude, he knows exactly what's at stake here!

The second profile doesn't contain nearly enough bs to be the SP Terry Stern, it also contains verifiable facts, something which would be completely alien to a BB scammer.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

I like the fact it is dead air for 25 seconds!

I watched the video all the way through and made a few interesting points to note

Firstly 13:39 in - this is where Chris Smith comes in. He is described as a an IT Genius/ Geek - nohting new. However, David then describes him as have industry experience in marketing, direct sales and the Advertising industry. No actual description of the background - just experience!

You may or may not have noticed the Skype names popping up. This is a public video I believe so I see no issue with publishing some of these names here.

Adeline Sheradelia
Omid Bahd
Adam Zahra
Maria Ghaderi
ADR Clinig
Polskie warsztaty BB
Argit Chaudhry
Robert Allen Online www.whoisrober......


If someone has some spare time they may want to research some of the BB history of these guys.


Also a very abrupt mid-sentence ending.

Overall, for what is meant to be a corporate video highlighting how the business works this really is a poor display. Skype popups, interruptions, poor quality etc.

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

I watched the video all the way through

Well done, I zoned out after about 8 minutes!

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Are you trying to show a link between that and 150cash? If so, you've lost me!

150cash.com has the same Google Analytics code as bannersbroker.com - Ralph Farley is the registrant of 150cash.com and has been for at least since: 2010-07-21 - which predates Banners Broker.
So, he does own that website.

So, why Bannersbroker's GA ID is/was on his website is anyone's guess - we can always speculate.

Jason

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Where did I say it did? It was a passing comment, made negatively for any passing readers. Not sure why you are making such a big deal about it... have you switched teams? ;-)

It was misleading and pointless,it's not a verifiable fact that he doesn't exist. The evidence points to there being an individual called Chris Smith, that may be involved in BB. Whether the Chris Smith that owns the Linkedin profile and the email address is involved, or has simply had his name/email address used we don't know.

Originally Posted by Theseus

It was misleading and pointless,it's not a verifiable fact that he doesn't exist. The evidence points to there being an individual called Chris Smith, that may be involved in BB. Whether the Chris Smith that owns the Linkedin profile and the email address is involved, or has simply had his name/email address used we don't know.

The Chris Smith that I can find through Whois records always point to the UPS mailbox - even since 2008.

What's the Silverlineclub - 'Smith' was the registrant in 2008.

Jason

Originally Posted by Theseus

It was misleading and pointless,it's not a verifiable fact that he doesn't exist

Well excuse me! Sorry if I offended you! It's not a verifiable fact that he DOES exist.

So, why Bannersbroker's GA ID is/was on his website is anyone's guess - we can always speculate.

Yes, did see your earlier post on this. Hard to say why, I thought perhaps a recycled GA ID, but that would be an uncanny coincidence and highly unlikely. You could also steal the code off another website easily, but that would be pointless if you actually wanted to use the analytics. Or perhaps they don't...?

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Well excuse me! Sorry if I offended you! It's not a verifiable fact that he DOES exist.


Yes, did see your earlier post on this. Hard to say why, I thought perhaps a recycled GA ID, but that would be an uncanny coincidence and highly unlikely. You could also steal the code off another website easily, but that would be pointless if you actually wanted to use the analytics. Or perhaps they don't...?

Your bold:

Would be a huge coincidence about 150cash.com though? Seeing as though that's in their 'choice network'?

Jason

Originally Posted by Poyol

Your bold:

Would be a huge coincidence about 150cash.com though? Seeing as though that's in their 'choice network'?

Jason

Oh yes, sorry forgot that bit - It's late at night here! Perhaps they bought the domain off him, along with the GA account? Dunno, requires more thought than I can muster right now...

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Well excuse me! Sorry if I offended you! It's not a verifiable fact that he DOES exist.

I didn't say it was, however the evidence as it stands links the email addresses to the Linkedin page and on to the university.
There may well be another explanation for it all (such as that Linkedin profiles being a recent BB production), but as things stand he would appear to exist....

Originally Posted by Theseus

The second profile doesn't contain nearly enough bs to be the SP Terry Stern, it also contains verifiable facts, something which would be completely alien to a BB scammer.

you must admit, 2 Terry Stern's in Arkansas is pretty coincidental.

What do you make of the GWT connection?

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Oh yes, sorry forgot that bit - It's late at night here! Perhaps they bought the domain off him, along with the GA account? Dunno, requires more thought than I can muster right now...

He's still the registrant as we speak.

Originally Posted by Brenda

you must admit, 2 Terry Stern's in Arkansas is pretty coincidental.

What do you make of the GWT connection?

Barrie bedroom - Trovit Homes

It would seem a certain ex BB employees House is on the market. Wonder of people know he is running his Masonic jewelry business out of it?
Common Questions note the address?
Why doesnt he come over to the light side of the force now? Is the lure of the BB dark side so strong?

Originally Posted by Beacon

Barrie bedroom - Trovit Homes

It would seem a certain ex BB employees House is on the market. Wonder of people know he is running his Masonic jewelry business out of it?
Common Questions note the address?
Why doesnt he come over to the light side of the force now? Is the lure of the BB dark side so strong?

he is not an ex BB Beacon, he just posted on the other thread