Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

interesting, but frightening how slow the wheels move when it comes to making these fraudsters accountable!


B.C. woman allegedly ran $135M Ponzi scheme - British Columbia - CBC News

Originally Posted by Jerrygo

Lol every time i log in, there is some new crisis in bb. Like papaponzi I'm new to scams, and I was thinking along the lines of Papa's last post.
(" Stern asked kul/raj/bogdan some very pointed questions last week after the grilling he got in here
Kul/raj/bogdan promised answers... On Tuesday
Stern sais he will not do anything else for banners brokers till he gets some answers ... On Tuesday")

Well if it is really Chris Smith, Terry Stern being dismissed or walking out is another nail in the coffin.

No, it is just an "Exit stratergy".....

Originally Posted by Poyol

If I thought it'd work I'd start a charity to help victims of Ponzi schemes in the UK. If anyone else is interested, message me.

I'm NOT interested nor will I take any part in that or have my name assosiated with that in any way shape or form.....

Just wanted to get that ON the record.....

Originally Posted by okosh

The personally autographed copy of your book that I have on my desk is one of my favorite possessions....It motivates me and reminds me of the years spent fighting to make a difference in the forums like talkgold and MMG.........

I guess opinions on what is important changes the longer people do what we do.....Took me years to work out that discrediting the admin or the program to those who were members of the program is a waste of time and energy...

Clearly I've upset a few people over the last days in my effort to show what you are saying here....This was not my intention and I'm sorry for it

Thank you for your kind words. I'm honored you think that highly of my book.

Originally Posted by Beacon

as well as
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Industry: Financial Services
Type:Public Company
Founded: 2011
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Oh and what was that legal thing about doing business with US citizens who are living in the US requiring all such businessess to register there?
Attachment 2817

Anyone know what 'AD' stands for?

ADvertising? Accidental Dismemberment? Affiliate Deception? :-)

Originally Posted by silly sally

Anyone know what 'AD' stands for?

ADvertising? Accidental Dismemberment? Affiliate Deception? :-)

Already Dead?

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Sorry to quote myself but here ya go Chris! Told you so.

From Mark Stoke's Facebook list of Ponzi victims.
Methinks the "blinkers" have been on for a long time.
Andrew's wife is going to kill him I'm led to believe she is a bit of a "naysayer"

Richard Arblaster

Hey everyone, steer clear of talkingbb.com for the moment, they're getting as bad as the naysayers they're attempting to stamp out.

I've never seen such long established members over there post so much crap in the last week, they really should know better.

At this point hold your nerve and stay strong. And no this isn't some kumbayah happy trippy BS either.

Time to put the blinkers on and stay focussed.

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• Andrew Walker Amazing how many people are certain it's a scam...my answer quickly shuts them up..." Do i look stupid ! If it was a scam i wouldn't be in it and making money while i sleep ! " They normally look at me blankly and think i'm mad....onwards to the next one..yeehaaa !!!
• Andrew Walker Ignore the naysayers...they are absolutely no use to us !!
• Andrew Walker Be strong..we will have the last laugh !!
• Carol Reed I totally agree with you Richard. I have my thoughts about talkingbb at the moment, but as you said, keep focussed. It is all very real indeed. There are reasons for the different site probs. at the moment, all will soon be well. Where could you be a member of a business, sit at home, and be earning £3-4000 a month ???
  
  

I think everyone laughing at Andrew Walker is unfair. Just because he sounds like a pathetic moron. I suspect he is cleverer than we think. "Onwards to the next one" sounds like code for "drop BB it's as dead as disco- where's the next scam". Well done Andrew, you might not be a laughable loser but could be a budding serial fraudster. Mummy will be proud.

Chris Smith just posted this at Finch Sells, and I quote:

"Chris Smith says:

January 22, 2013 at 1:15 am

Mr Deano,

When you said ” i don’t believe for a second that you alone have invented an “Revolutionary Algorithm” which no one has thought off before.”

What a crazy statement to make. New algorithms, materials, medicines etc are being INVENTED all the time. One of the best ways to counteract your illogical and inaccurate statement is to point you in the direction of Sarah Flannery, who in 1998 was a SIXTEEN year old maths genius who INVENTED A NEW ALGORITHM to speed up encryption.

Mr Depressed,

I realise you’re hurting but can I suggest that you keep your posts to just a couple of paragraphs. It’s quite obvious you’re what we call “touchy” up here in Canada, a common way of replying to people like this is to say “Chill out man”.

If you’re not happy about BB, please draw your money out on the 31st and close your account.

While I’m on the subject of payments, we are having some issues with these, it’s a complex issue beyond our control.

To reassure our affiliate’s that what we operate is not a Ponzi scheme or scam, we are issuing a directive to all of our affiliate’s to stop signing new affiliate’s with immediate effect. We DO NOT rely on new signups, this will prove so beyond doubt.

I’ve emailed Finch, he will no doubt confirm this.

Bill Lucas,

You’re very much mistaken on a number of accounts, we do have phone numbers for you to contact our company on. It is not unusual for companies to charge for support, this helps us keep our monthly charges so low. Would you prefer to pay $15 a month and be charged for phone support as and when you required it, or $25 a month regardless.

The truth will come out Mr Lucas. I hope then I receive an apology from you."

They just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper. To illustrate his point about new algorithms he uses an example from 1998? Nothing more recent?

Now it sounds as if there won't be any payments on the 31st either. No new signups per the head office which means stalling for time for an exit strategy that I said was what the "big meeting" was all about this past weekend.

This is going to be lucky to make it to the end of this month at the rate things are happening. Only problem is the affiliates won't know it for at least 3-6 weeks, if that soon.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Chris Smith just posted this at Finch Sells, and I quote:

"Chris Smith says:

January 22, 2013 at 1:15 am

Mr Deano,

When you said ” i don’t believe for a second that you alone have invented an “Revolutionary Algorithm” which no one has thought off before.”

What a crazy statement to make. New algorithms, materials, medicines etc are being INVENTED all the time. One of the best ways to counteract your illogical and inaccurate statement is to point you in the direction of Sarah Flannery, who in 1998 was a SIXTEEN year old maths genius who INVENTED A NEW ALGORITHM to speed up encryption.

They just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper. To illustrate his point about new algorithms he uses an example from 1998? Nothing more recent?

Now it sounds as if there won't be any payments on the 31st either. No new signups per the head office which means stalling for time for an exit strategy that I said was what the "big meeting" was all about this past weekend.

This is going to be lucky to make it to the end of this month at the rate things are happening. Only problem is the affiliates won't know it for at least 3-6 weeks, if that soon.

That Mr Smith sounds like a nice chap. Can anyone point me to a patent or anything in the public domain for this "algorithm" (which is tech speak for a process, usually an iterative process in computing). I am sure to protect his work he will have done this unless of course HE IS A SCAMMER. Oops sorry pressed caps lock there. Anyway take it easy on this messianic genius who wants to give all of his profits to the world poor and disenfranchised.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Already Dead?

Seems to be from an affiliate so...
Another Drone

Originally Posted by Martin88

If Terry Stern has been fired, I don't know why he's still posting comments on behalf of BannersBroker:

https://www.facebook.com/bannersbrokernetwork

His profile is public. In 2012, he seems to have moved house a lot. And I mean a lot.

Well fired in BB speak means the same as "not a money-cycler" etc etc... it means nothing.

Originally Posted by okosh

I'm NOT interested nor will I take any part in that or have my name assosiated with that in any way shape or form.....

Just wanted to get that ON the record.....

Possible only the UK. So you're safe down under. But your objection noted :)

How do we know that 'Terry' is gone?

If anyone wants some Whois history - just ask.

Jason

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Chris Smith just posted this at Finch Sells, and I quote:

"Chris Smith says:

Sarah Flannery, who in 1998 was a SIXTEEN year old maths genius who INVENTED A NEW ALGORITHM to speed up encryption.

Without taking away from her ability the purpose was to replace RSA. As it happens the algorithm had a fatal falw


Her original paper and the attack on it can be found here:
Sarah Flannery on Cayley-Purser: An Investigation of a New Algorithm vs. the RSA

Look in oparticular wher it mentions: "
> My take from her remark in that paper is that

> the system is broken as it stands, and that there's no hint yet of a

> repair.
"

Seems to me Chris Smith has been talking to some Cork people who dont know much about the detail of the Young scientists Exhibition and probably didnt read Ms Flannery's work. which is about as much research they put into due dilligence about Banners Broker so Im not surprised really

If you’re not happy about BB, please draw your money out on the 31st and close your account.

If only he could

While I’m on the subject of payments, we are having some issues with these, it’s a complex issue beyond our control.

LOL! Great old chestnuts of the world ~ #101 The Complex Issue #105 It is Beyond our Control

To reassure our affiliate’s that what we operate is not a Ponzi scheme or scam, we are issuing a directive to all of our affiliate’s to stop signing new affiliate’s with immediate effect. We DO NOT rely on new signups, this will prove so beyond doubt.

LOL! Why should they have to reassure affilliates if it does not depend on them. And all one needs to do to disprove this is log in a new fake account.
If you can Chris is lying. If you can't then the whole thing will collapse. Of course Chris will still be milking the monthly "registration fees" which his system demands on time even though the system wont be paying out.

They just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper. To illustrate his point about new algorithms he uses an example from 1998? Nothing more recent?

And its wasnt new. It jhad a flaw. In addition Sarah's dad is a mathematician and they possibly collaberated to some degree. Her certaibnly contributed to her background. She was using Mathematica. Ironically I interviewed the following years winner and identified him as a winner BEFORE he won . He also used Mathematica and has a maths teacher dad IIR and a brother IIR who also uses Mathemitica or won the YSE. Thats off the top of my head but the point is a "culture" of learning. Ther is also the link with her actual hands on experience with Boston Scientific's?? RSA.

Chris Smith has not shown any such educational background.

Originally Posted by okosh

And in this arena the use of Vaseline is strictly prohibited.....

You mean...it's a big pain....a dry drive...but that's why they say God bless - the hope is all you earn staying with ponzi

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Chris Smith just posted this at Finch Sells, and I quote:

"Chris Smith says:

January 22, 2013 at 1:15 am

Mr Deano,

When you said ” i don’t believe for a second that you alone have invented an “Revolutionary Algorithm” which no one has thought off before.”

What a crazy statement to make. New algorithms, materials, medicines etc are being INVENTED all the time. One of the best ways to counteract your illogical and inaccurate statement is to point you in the direction of Sarah Flannery, who in 1998 was a SIXTEEN year old maths genius who INVENTED A NEW ALGORITHM to speed up encryption.

Mr Depressed,

I realise you’re hurting but can I suggest that you keep your posts to just a couple of paragraphs. It’s quite obvious you’re what we call “touchy” up here in Canada, a common way of replying to people like this is to say “Chill out man”.

If you’re not happy about BB, please draw your money out on the 31st and close your account.

While I’m on the subject of payments, we are having some issues with these, it’s a complex issue beyond our control.

To reassure our affiliate’s that what we operate is not a Ponzi scheme or scam, we are issuing a directive to all of our affiliate’s to stop signing new affiliate’s with immediate effect. We DO NOT rely on new signups, this will prove so beyond doubt.

I’ve emailed Finch, he will no doubt confirm this.

Bill Lucas,

You’re very much mistaken on a number of accounts, we do have phone numbers for you to contact our company on. It is not unusual for companies to charge for support, this helps us keep our monthly charges so low. Would you prefer to pay $15 a month and be charged for phone support as and when you required it, or $25 a month regardless.

The truth will come out Mr Lucas. I hope then I receive an apology from you."

They just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper. To illustrate his point about new algorithms he uses an example from 1998? Nothing more recent?

Now it sounds as if there won't be any payments on the 31st either. No new signups per the head office which means stalling for time for an exit strategy that I said was what the "big meeting" was all about this past weekend.

This is going to be lucky to make it to the end of this month at the rate things are happening. Only problem is the affiliates won't know it for at least 3-6 weeks, if that soon.

I think this, from further on in the same post, proves this isn't "Chris Smith", or even someone who graduated from high school.....

To reassure our affiliate’s that what we operate is not a Ponzi scheme or scam, we are issuing a directive to all of our affiliate’s to stop signing new affiliate’s with immediate effect.

Ignoring the fact that he's directing his own followers to stop recruiting, why does he suddenly start adding an apostrophe to the word "affiliates"? Smith is alleged to be an intelligent man, and one who surely must have had to type the word out more than a few times.......

Originally Posted by Theseus

I think this, from further on in the same post, proves this isn't "Chris Smith", or even someone who graduated from high school.....



Ignoring the fact that he's directing his own followers to stop recruiting, why does he suddenly start adding an apostrophe to the word "affiliates"? Smith is alleged to be an intelligent man, and one who surely must have had to type the word out more than a few times.......

I'm just surprised he can type. Most Math professors I know can't type worth a darn even if their life depended on it. Genius or not.

Originally Posted by Theseus

I think this, from further on in the same post, proves this isn't "Chris Smith", or even someone who graduated from high school.....



Ignoring the fact that he's directing his own followers to stop recruiting, why does he suddenly start adding an apostrophe to the word "affiliates"? Smith is alleged to be an intelligent man, and one who surely must have had to type the word out more than a few times.......

there's that phrase again ' up here in Canada' that David Hooker used in his webinar last week.

I raised it here the other day as Canadians would never refer to themselves as being 'up here'. Non Canadians / Americans might.

It's the little things that make you go hmmmmm

Originally Posted by Julie Diligent

Me, too... Mister McCarthy with his galloping gabble. Reminded me of this classic clip: Strabane Man interview - YouTube

REmember seeing the Strabane man years ago - and I mean when balck and white was around - LOL.

"Chris Smith" has now been found out as a fake by Finch on his blog.

Originally Posted by Alkibone

"Chris Smith" has now been found out as a fake by Finch on his blog.

It was only a matter of time.

Talking about rats deserting, the Facebook page 'Banners Broker with Dane Sampson' is now just plain old 'Dane Sampson'.

He hasn't said a word about BB on his page or website since last year, Profitable Sunrise is his next project.

Is there Banners Broker Prepaid MasterCard for India?

No, unfortunately we do not offer Banners Broker prepaid MasterCard for India.

Can I fund my e-wallet with my banners broker prepaid MasterCard?

You cannot fund your e-wallet with banners broker prepaid master card. You can only withdraw from your account to banners broker prepaid master card.

(Above takes from FAQ section)

Um...

The question re pre-paid cards in India appeared twice.. well it is BB isn't it....

BUT

Why can't one use the BB prepaid master card to fund one's e-wallet? Is it not one's own money? Is it not a prepaid card that should be acceptable to all businesses etc etc etc

Seems a bit strange. I know there will be someone here who will be able to enlighten me.

Originally Posted by Dreamstealer

Seems to be from an affiliate so...
Another Drone

Absolute Disaster?