Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by okosh

You are right....Reff whores like Stros, Ken Russo and even our favorite Aussie granny don't care where the money comes from....So long as it pays they happy.....

So my question stands- should they be outed?
Much of the correspondence from such people solicits comments suggesting they are harmless and just "having a punt" or "taking their own risk with their own money" or "only promoting to people they know and who know them and hey can pay back if those people lose out"

I dont think such excuses suffice investing in a Ponzi. Even if all downlines and the amounts invested by each are known to each other they are promoting the culture of encouragement.

Originally Posted by Beacon

I thought someone might bring this up. I am loathe to dilute what happened in the Holocaust but I think extreme black and white examples illustrate the underlying principle.

I don't understand why that topic has been raised by you so many times in the BB ponzi-scam thread.....

Originally Posted by Beacon

So my question stands- should they be outed?
Much of the correspondence from such people solicits comments suggesting they are harmless and just "having a punt" or "taking their own risk with their own money" or "only promoting to people they know and who know them and hey can pay back if those people lose out"

I dont think such excuses suffice investing in a Ponzi. Even if all downlines and the amounts invested by each are known to each other they are promoting the culture of encouragement.

If you talking about name and shame of those with BB facebook pages and the like then no reason not to....
They are players and reff whores who know what is what and how it all works....
What they doing is fraud....
If you can work out where they live then an email to their local FBI office would not hurt either....

BB Facts and updates.........further info on why there have been no payments.........people keep looking at the site and slowing it down and changing over servers takes days.....

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Originally Posted by Della Cate

BB Facts and updates.........further info on why there have been no payments.........people keep looking at the site and slowing it down and changing over servers takes days.....

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That's a lie because the server that their website is on is hosted with Serverloft. So, if anyone, it'd need to be Serverloft who resolve any issues. They certainly wouldn't be down for a week.

Jason

Originally Posted by Della Cate

BB Facts and updates.........further info on why there have been no payments.........people keep looking at the site and slowing it down and changing over servers takes days.....

All those who bet on it being the members fault please form a line and you will be paid your winnings....

All those who bet on the pay processor being at fault....Better luck next time....

It's funny. When I plan to upgrade my servers, I let people know before hand. When I plan to upgrade my servers, I shut down the front end - since it wont work while the back-end is down (I mean, come on, this is common sense, really BB!?). When I plan to upgrade my servers, it takes about an hour........

Originally Posted by okosh

All those who bet on it being the members fault please form a line and you will be paid your winnings....

All those who bet on the pay processor being at fault....Better luck next time....

Damn... I lucked out on both options there.... I had TDS At Fault at 33/1

*tears up betting slip in anger and stomping off, huffing and puffing*

Originally Posted by noname999

For the computer gurus on here, how long does it take to change servers? The payouts are now 8 days late. Could it take this long?

If it's a planned upgrade a matter of a few hours, if planned well, almost seamless.

If it's a server failure, again a few hours downtime should be the worst case scenario.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Damn... I lucked out on both options there.... I had TDS At Fault at 33/1

*tears up betting slip in anger and stomping off, huffing and puffing*

You might get square if you bet on how long it will take for the new server to be up.....
Also might run a book on how long till members see their next payment....
"Never" is the odds on favorite.....

Originally Posted by StevenHoward

If it's a planned upgrade a matter of a few hours, if planned well, almost seamless.

If it's a server failure, again a few hours downtime should be the worst case scenario.

A "planned upgrade"??....More like an "exit stratergy" IMO....

Anyone else seen this?

https://www.facebook.com/bannersbrok...ref=ts&fref=ts

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I am really not sure that the companies/agencies etc quoted (UK Government) would really like to be connected to BB.

Of course, this will be swallowed hook, line and sinker by the faithful as giving legitimacy to them.

The last bit that my screen dump cut off is this:

Bannersbroker once again have provided more evidence that the blind network is real and live
3 hours ago · Like

Anybody able to have a look at this in more depth?

I have to say I have my doubts over Mr Stern and how genuine the person here is.

It seems that he may well have thrown a few tidbits to get us talking or interested and actually they are meant to throw us off guard and could just be utter tosh. One reasonable high level affiliate I interacted with yesterday stated that he had not heard of Terry Stern. Has there been any announcement on either the dashboard or TalkingBB that state who this guy is and what he is trying to do?

Hi, everyone. I have been following this thread for almost a year but obviously this is my first post. I found this forum when a friend joined BB and sung its praises to me. He is either naive or a total scammer- he is a total believer. I hope that it's the former...

I have found some interesting information regarding the American side of things, but would rather pass it along to the regulars here to do what they wish with it. I'd have no idea where to start. Please PM me if you would like to hear it.

-Sally

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

I have to say I have my doubts over Mr Stern and how genuine the person here is.

It seems that he may well have thrown a few tidbits to get us talking or interested and actually they are meant to throw us off guard and could just be utter tosh. One reasonable high level affiliate I interacted with yesterday stated that he had not heard of Terry Stern. Has there been any announcement on either the dashboard or TalkingBB that state who this guy is and what he is trying to do?

Terry Stern (LION) | Entrepreneur & Business Networking | EFactor

That's him - but no mention of anything with him being Stellar Point on the "Official channels".
He did say he would email me - but has not. Could be 'cause he hasn't got a Stellar Point email address?


Jason

Originally Posted by silly sally

Hi, everyone. I have been following this thread for almost a year but obviously this is my first post. I found this forum when a friend joined BB and sung its praises to me. He is either naive or a total scammer- he is a total believer. I hope that it's the former...

I have found some interesting information regarding the American side of things, but would rather pass it along to the regulars here to do what they wish with it. I'd have no idea where to start. Please PM me if you would like to hear it.

-Sally

Hi and welcome to realscam. We are always happy to see new faces. Any contributions gratefully received.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

BB Facts and updates.........further info on why there have been no payments.........people keep looking at the site and slowing it down and changing over servers takes days.....

THis seems to be close to the truth. Payments wont happen if too many people demand them because a Ponzi depends on the reverse Robin Hood principle of robbing the many to pay the few.
The system depends on the expectation of many who have put money in to get paid. when they stop expecting and start looking for the actual money they are told they have then the whole thing grinds to a halt because they expect all the money in their e wallet is actually theirs to be paid to them. The ever increasing numbers fuel their greed but only ion very rare cases will a payout occur. when it does I reckon 80% plus of the money taken from the many has already been paid to ta few at the top and the dross goes to a level or two below that keeping them near break even and greedy enough to pay the downline for more "investment" while their upline has taken ten times what they have received. Their greed to reach the promised land of bigger five figure payout in turn is visited on the downline showing them the magical five figure e wallet and stories of having seen the six figure one of their upline. In all this they seem to forget "down" and "up" are levels iof a pyramid scheme.
Or do they? clearly supergran even has a exponent 3 pyramid on her site.

Originally Posted by Beacon

THis seems to be close to the truth. Payments wont happen if too many people demand them because a Ponzi depends on the reverse Robin Hood principle of robbing the many to pay the few.
The system depends on the expectation of many who have put money in to get paid. when they stop expecting and start looking for the actual money they are told they have then the whole thing grinds to a halt because they expect all the money in their e wallet is actually theirs to be paid to them. The ever increasing numbers fuel their greed but only ion very rare cases will a payout occur. when it does I reckon 80% plus of the money taken from the many has already been paid to ta few at the top and the dross goes to a level or two below that keeping them near break even and greedy enough to pay the downline for more "investment" while their upline has taken ten times what they have received. Their greed to reach the promised land of bigger five figure payout in turn is visited on the downline showing them the magical five figure e wallet and stories of having seen the six figure one of their upline. In all this they seem to forget "down" and "up" are levels iof a pyramid scheme.
Or do they? clearly supergran even has a exponent 3 pyramid on her site.

Just following up on your point about expectation of being able to withdraw money.

I may be way off-beam here, but I seem to remember that if you are a Premium member, you can withdraw a maximum of $10,000 per month provided you have submitted notarized ID? Yes?

So how do people like Stepsys etc manage to withdraw all that money that they boast about each month? Technically it's not possible according to the rules that BB have put in place.

stop believing the hype, stop believing the hype

With that extra little fillip on the old panels over Christmas, the ewallets must appear to be bulging at the seams. How will little old BB pay all that money out to all these affiliates?

SMALL REMINDER - Don't forget your UK tax return is due in electronically by 31 January 2013 folks!! Don't forget to declare all your BB information!!

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

I have to say I have my doubts over Mr Stern and how genuine the person here is.

It seems that he may well have thrown a few tidbits to get us talking or interested and actually they are meant to throw us off guard and could just be utter tosh. One reasonable high level affiliate I interacted with yesterday stated that he had not heard of Terry Stern. Has there been any announcement on either the dashboard or TalkingBB that state who this guy is and what he is trying to do?

Roland? I'm just guessing.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Just following up on your point about expectation of being able to withdraw money.

I may be way off-beam here, but I seem to remember that if you are a Premium member, you can withdraw a maximum of $10,000 per month provided you have submitted notarized ID? Yes?

So how do people like Stepsys etc manage to withdraw all that money that they boast about each month? Technically it's not possible according to the rules that BB have put in place.

stop believing the hype, stop believing the hype

With that extra little fillip on the old panels over Christmas, the ewallets must appear to be bulging at the seams. How will little old BB pay all that money out to all these affiliates?

SMALL REMINDER - Don't forget your UK tax return is due in electronically by 31 January 2013 folks!! Don't forget to declare all your BB information!!

If you want to take more out you need to contact Banners Broker support.

Weren't you listening in the training? ;)

Originally Posted by Poyol

If you want to take more out you need to contact Banners Broker support.

Weren't you listening in the training? ;)

Are you kidding me? No... I was snoozing at the back... :( Bad me. Naughty me.

Hence the delay in dealing with the day to day rubbishy queries. Too busy sorting out the big boys eh?

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Are you kidding me? No... I was snoozing at the back... :( Bad me. Naughty me.

Hence the delay in dealing with the day to day rubbishy queries. Too busy sorting out the big boys eh?

Or the support email can get lost in transit.
Someone may mug the ePostman.

The next excuse for that would be "Did you send your email via Recorded Delivery?"

Jason

Originally Posted by okosh

I don't understand why that topic has been raised by you so many times in the BB ponzi-scam thread.....

Godwinism?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

BB Facts and updates.........further info on why there have been no payments.........people keep l[I]ooking at the site and slowing it down...

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The "people" concerned mainly being involved in law enforcement

Originally Posted by Theseus

The "people" concerned mainly being involved in law enforcement

T - you are very naughty boy sometimes, but you make me LOL. Keep up the good work!!

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

I have to say I have my doubts over Mr Stern and how genuine the person here is.

It seems that he may well have thrown a few tidbits to get us talking or interested and actually they are meant to throw us off guard and could just be utter tosh. One reasonable high level affiliate I interacted with yesterday stated that he had not heard of Terry Stern. Has there been any announcement on either the dashboard or TalkingBB that state who this guy is and what he is trying to do?

I find he has communication skills when compared with other BB ambasadors we had here.I would say polite and with good manners as well.The sad thing is - all this in service of shady dealings and obcscure BB agenda so,in other words,not worth mentioning