Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by noname999

Would be interesting to know what capacity the 2 have between them. What capacity the 2 have dedicated to BB and is it enough to do what they claim.

- I'm guessing it is or they wouldn't have posted. Nothing Terry will say will be bu mistake. Its all by design.

You'd think a big customer like Banners Broker would merit mention on the OpenX website, but apparently not...

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Not even a whiff of them on the Client Success Stories page.

Odd that.

Originally Posted by Theseus

You'd think a big customer like Banners Broker would merit mention on the OpenX website, but apparently not...

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Not even a whiff of them on the Client Success Stories page.

Odd that.

I'm sure Ian Driscoll could write a blinding testimonial for them, on how he's made his offshore millions

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

So according to Terry the two networks they are working with are Clicksor and openx.

Anyone got the info on the second one.

Not sure how definitive this info is but may offer something to review.

I'm just working from memory so could be wrong, but I thought openx was an ad server, you install yourself.

I'm probably wrong, but will check it out.

Originally Posted by RobinHoodlumTJ

Haha! Looks like someone used an online translator! Id venture to say thats probably an "affiliates" page and notthing official?

LOL, I can hear it now! It's the "Members" fault!

While people are asking about Chris Smith, I came across this. I don't know how much credence it can be given, but it is interesting, especially if you look up "World Games Inc". I couldn't find anyone named Chris Smith linked to it mind you, so it may be a complete red herring. Apologies if so. CS.jpg

Some of the anti BB brigade are actually worse then the pimps and shills. Please keep all posts here for now.

(Banging my head off a brick wall...)

Originally Posted by baylee

LOL, I can hear it now! It's the "Members" fault!

Hah! Pretty genius (unfortunately) having everyone else market their scam, and send out the misleading information that could get them in trouble, for them. Not only that, they get to prove they're "concerned" about affiliates being misleading by locking them out pocketing their cash. Win/win/win. Crazy shiz.

Originally Posted by Beethoven

I'm sure Ian Driscoll could write a blinding testimonial for them, on how he's made his offshore millions

It's funny, you'd think if he's stolen $4 million they'd have stopped working with him, or even locked his account, I mean mere mortals get their accounts locked for daring to voice concerns that all may not be well....

This response from Mr Stern is unacceptable

Originally Posted by tdstern

Alright, let me see I can address the multitude of questions posted here....and noname999, if you want to try and harness in all of this and put it forward, I'd appreciate it.

@RockLion,
You may not understand why the company is requiring you to fill in that information, however, it's being done legally. What BBI has asked of you is fair and in no way compromises the integrity of either you or doing business with BBI, and as such, BBI can require every affiliate complete a poll of this nature without issue. I commend your attempt from once again trying to distract our attempts and getting to the real issues here, but once again, this tree bears no fruit.

Thank You.

Originally Posted by RockLion

Mr Stern,

I respectfully disagree with that assessment. I don't need to understand why I need to fill in that information.
The point is this survey should not comprise the integrity of me being able to access the functions of the dashboard.

The survey does compromise that integrity.

It is not fair to demand I do a survey to gain access to my property.

Banners Broker have also taken away my equitable position to access the dashboard and continue using my e-wallet, managing my inventory and purchasing panels, Traffic packs and qualifying those panels with the traffic packs ..

The issue is this poll does have the issue of compromising the integrity of me being able to :-

1) Fund my e-wallet
2) Purchase panels
3) Purchase a Traffic Pack
4) Qualify my panels

In what ways did I distract you from getting to the real issues ?
Are you able to describe the real issues, and if so, Please let us know what you think the real issues are ?

I thank you for helping this tree bear significant fruit as you are the one now promoting and endorsing criminal and unprofessional behavior from both banners Broker and Stellar Point Inc.

Shame on you !

Originally Posted by Theseus

It's funny, you'd think if he's stolen $4 million they'd have stopped working with him, or even locked his account, I mean mere mortals get their accounts locked for daring to voice concerns that all may not be well....

Maybe he's got something on 'em.

Originally Posted by RockLion

This response from Mr Stern is unacceptable

Yes, Yes it is. But not unexpected.

Rocklion, Tbh I have to say that is not really that big a deal. Pick a crappy option and move on. There are loads more pressing issues for noname to deal with on that thread.

I would personally ask an admin to shift any non Terry/Noname conversation out of there and into here.

Let me see,

Mr Spin Doctor gives "AN" answer to "A" question every two days.

Not "THE" answer, but "AN" answer.

Mr Spin Doctor chooses which questions he will answer.

By my calculations, RockLion can look forward to getting information as to why he is being prevented from gaining access to his account in approximately 2025.

Goodness knows when we'll get to discover how Banners Broker is able to offer the rates of return it does.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

While people are asking about Chris Smith, I came across this. I don't know how much credence it can be given, but it is interesting, especially if you look up "World Games Inc". I couldn't find anyone named Chris Smith linked to it mind you, so it may be a complete red herring. Apologies if so. CS.jpg

WGI thread at scam.com

The Canadian police have arrested 8 of the major promotors of WGI in Canada

Anyone know who they were?

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Maybe he's got something on 'em.

You reckon perhaps BB are up to something naughty?

Originally Posted by Theseus

You reckon perhaps BB are up to something naughty?

I have my suspicions

A long time ago in a place far away....

A young man called Donald Alan Kernan, was full of ambitious dreams to make it into the bigtime, he hatched a plan to launch a social network website. Circa 2009/2010

He put together a fancy looking business plan, and started pitching it to investors, he never found one, but he did come across a man called Raj Dixet who was looking for his next scam.

Raj was impressed that Donald could put together a website, had programmers and designers, for the all essential "back office", Donald was also offering a phenomenal return on investment from his new social network idea.

So Raj had an idea of his own, he offerd to raise the funding for Donald, but Donald had to put together the System, in return the funds would bankroll Donald's new venture and everyone would get rich, the system of financing was the banners brokers we now see.

Raj, fresh from his last ponzi was well connected to the major players and started raising funds, the new social network idea flopped and Donald was left scratching his head, meanwhile Raj has an army of affiliates multiplying like bacteria, Swimming in investors cash he buys out Donald for a bit of cash and a large number of "stock".

Donald is now worried, he knows it is not going to end well, but Raj gets a friend of his and gives him the "Nom de scam" "Chris smith" the untraceable, unknown, no history Chris agrees to become the patsy, he is offerd a large sum of money and told once the scam pops he will have to lie low for a few years but since Chris smith is a made up name, he has nothing to lose, now both Donald and Raj can claim they were duped.

Raj starts to mess Donald around in late 2012 and Donald demands money that Raj doesn't pay, Donald threatens to pull the site and redirect it to a go daddy holding page, Raj calls his bluff the website goes down, Raj pays up.



The scam evolves and is now the juggernaut we see today, with a big slush fund they reluctantly bring on David hooker, who most likely approached them since MLM runs deep in his blood and he would have heard of BB on the grapevine. David hooker is so High tech he doesn't even have a web presence other than a 269 friend Facebook page, and is obviously well enough immersed in Internet advertising to be the spokesperson for a cutting edge upstart.

As the curtain starts to draw and the mainstream press & authorities in India, Ireland and the UK hot on the heels of BB Raj starts to play his last cards, mr stern is one of them.

Donald still controls the DNS of banners brokers, he follows this forum daily, a few times we were close to finding him by accident but the in the last 2 days his name come up, he phones Raj and tells him to get his PR man to get his name out of it and quickly .... Or he will pull the site down again.

Raj sends in stern, who of the hundreds of questions he skirted only answerd one affirmatively, strangely enough to deny Donald's involvement.


End of story.

Sorry for the long post but I think that the Donald Kernan is THE smoking gun, Chris smith is a nobody - I have heard from people who attended The BB tour in Ireland and Portugal and they say that Chris is a very poor speaker, so If he is not academic, (maths guru) or charismatic ... Then he is a nothing ,just a face for a made up name, if he was a major figure using a bogey name then it does not stack up that he would be such a poor speaker, (you can hate these ponzi pushers as much as you like but these players can ALWAYS do a half decent speech, albeit full of lies and bs ) however Donald IS real, he has a footprint, Raj is also real but .. more elusive and a seasoned player who will not hang around once this blows.

I shall be calling Donald tommorw, Donald if you are reading this please talk to me and put the record straight, If this is a big misunderstanding then I will present your exact version of events on here, or even better you can come on and do it yourself.

To mr Stern, you are either very naive or very nasty, If you seriously believe what you are saying you owe it to yourself to look closer at who and what you are defending, if you really are a mason then I would guess you
have standards to uphold, defending a Ponzi falls far short.

More BB scammers jumping ship?


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Some might just be bored though.

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Probably breast best not to use your "business" account for perving, lads

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Rocklion, Tbh I have to say that is not really that big a deal. Pick a crappy option and move on. There are loads more pressing issues for noname to deal with on that thread.

I would personally ask an admin to shift any non Terry/Noname conversation out of there and into here.

It's his question and apparently it is a pressing issue for him.

The openx about us page.

About OpenX | OpenX

Note how much info there is, board of directors with profiles, press releases, media resources, KEY INVESTORS, etc. etc. The type of info that you expect and helps instill confidence and trust in a company that you are going to potentally sell to or buy from.

That is what Banners Broker should have.

Ad marketplace - Maximize for your advertising space | OpenX

Ad marketplace - Maximize for your advertising space | OpenX

Is it just me or do these guys not seem like the type of company that would want to hide their relationship with one of the biggest companies in the world and challengers to Google.

This would seem to blow out previous claims of network secrecy.

Originally Posted by Theseus

It's funny, you'd think if he's stolen $4 million they'd have stopped working with him, or even locked his account, I mean mere mortals get their accounts locked for daring to voice concerns that all may not be well....

Under normal circumstances, yes. With this company, you get 4 x gold (plated) BB rings for the acheivement

Very good summary, Papaponzi.If you don't mind my asking where did you get the information from?

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Donald Kernan is an interesting fellow - Donald Kernan Jr | LinkedIn


Top Affiliate
Banners Broker, Inc/Toronto

January 2010 – Present (3 years 1 month)

Online Banner Ad/Profit share platform; Organized and established a highly profitable banner ad affiliate company and holding company and led the ad growth in excess of as many as 1000 accounts world wide, $165,000 in assets, $145,000 in deposits, and $1,250,000 in actual sales in 3 months.

Designed the advertisement platform for affiliates
Over 12,000 sign ups in 2 months and 2500 active users in a weeks of the launch date

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This looks like the same guy to me. Warning this video is pretty crap!

Two minutes of your life you wont get back

Originally Posted by Poyol

Very good summary, Papaponzi.If you don't mind my asking where did you get the information from?

Pieced it together from the recent posts and guessed the rest, when the bb website went offline a while back I suspected someone who controlled the site had gone native and held them to ransom, when Kernan came into the picture courtesy of RS it was fitting, of course it is just an educated guess but Donald Kernan is still yapping on about a Facebook style new upstart with an eye watering cash flow projection and if you cast your memory back to talk from bb about having a social network calld promo121 and look at Donald's new offering it is exactly the same thing, I,e a social aggregator/commerce platform, bb no longer talk about promo121 but early sales pitches did say that the panels platform was the start of something bigger, look back at the earlier drivel from bb and the answer to the question of "why they need affiliates" was "to build a subscriber base"

I suspect Donald Kernan had his grand idea hijacked by messrs raj & kul who saw his presentation as a plausible investment suitable for a ponzi operation.

My theory is not much more than a stab in the dark, if anyone has any other theories I would be interested to know because if the truth ever does get out the chances are this will be like any other criminal enterprise and there will be infighting, politics, chaos, backstabbing, and lies amongst its leaders.