Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Hmmm, an interesting old discussion going on here

Perhaps the following may assist as its relevant to the discussion.

Advertising network
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This article is about online advertising networks. For advertising with traditional media, see advertising agency.

An online advertising network or ad network is a company that connects advertisers to web sites that want to host advertisements. The key function of an ad network is aggregation of ad space supply from publishers and matching it with advertiser demand. The phrase "ad network" by itself is media-neutral in the sense that there can be a "Television Ad Network" or a "Print Ad Network", but is increasingly used to mean "online ad network" as the effect of aggregation of publisher ad space and sale to advertisers is most commonly seen in the online space. The fundamental difference between traditional media ad networks and online ad networks is that online ad networks use a central Ad server to deliver advertisements to consumers, which enables targeting, tracking and reporting of impressions in ways not possible with analog media alternatives.

Overview

The advertising network market is a large and growing market, with the top 20 companies earning about $2 billion in revenues during 2007. This represents around 13% of the total display advertising market, forecasted to grow to 18% by 2010.[1] This growth has resulted in many new players in the market, and has encouraged acquisitions of ad networks by large companies entering the market.

Ad networks are primarily involved in selling space for online ads to appear. This online advertising inventory comes in many different forms, including space on websites, in RSS feeds, on blogs, in instant messaging applications, in adware, in e-mails, and on other sources. The dominant form of inventory continues to be third-party websites, who work with advertising networks for either a fee or a share of the ad revenues.

An advertiser can buy a run of network package, or a run of category package within the network. The advertising network serves advertisements from its central ad server, which responds to a site once a page is called. A snippet of code is called from the ad server, that represents the advertising banner.

Large publishers often sell only their remnant inventory through ad networks. Typical numbers range from 10% to 60% of total inventory being remnant and sold through advertising networks.

Smaller publishers often sell all of their inventory through ad networks. One type of ad network, known as a blind network, is such that advertisers place ads, but do not know the exact places where their ads are being placed.

Large ad networks include a mixture of search engines, media companies, and technology vendors.
Types of ad networks

There are 3 main types of online advertising networks:

Vertical Networks: They represent the publications in their portfolio, with full transparency for the advertiser about where their ads will run.[2] They typically promote high quality traffic at market prices and are heavily used by brand marketers. The economic model is generally revenue share. Vertical Networks offer ROS (Run-Of-Site) advertising across specific Channels (example: Auto or Travel) or they offer site-wide advertising options, in which case they operate in a similar fashion to Publisher Representation firms.
Blind Networks: These companies offer good pricing to direct marketers in exchange for those marketers relinquishing control over where their ads will run, though some networks offer a "site opt out" method. The network usually runs campaigns as RON or Run-Of-Network. Blind networks achieve their low pricing through large bulk buys of typically remnant inventory combined with conversion optimization and ad targeting technology.
Targeted Networks: Sometimes called “next generation” or “2.0” ad networks, these focus on specific targeting technologies such as behavioral or contextual, that have been built into an Ad server. Targeted networks specialize in using consumer clickstream data to enhance the value of the inventory they purchase.[1] further specialized targeted networks include social graph technologies which attempt to enhance the value of inventory using connections in social networks.[3]

There are two types of advertising networks: first-tier and second-tier networks. First-tier advertising networks have a large number of their own advertisers and publishers, they have high quality traffic, and they serve ads and traffic to second-tier networks. Examples of first-tier networks include the major search engines. Second-tier advertising networks may have some of their own advertisers and publishers, but their main source of revenue comes from syndicating ads from other advertising networks.

While it is common for websites to be categorized into tiers, these can be misleading. While Google is in the clear majority of advertisement impression served, other networks that could be labeled as tier 2 actually dominate over these tier 1 ad networks as far as the number of customers reached.

Originally Posted by StevenHoward

JUST FOUND THIS.

Go to this url :- The District and Subordinate Judiciary of North Goa

Click on "case status" on the left of the page.

"Court Complex" should be "Fast Track court Mapusa"

In the "Petitioner or Respondent's Name (Full or Part)" type the word "Bento".

Click "Get"

You will then see a box with case numbers in (only one result in this search), highlight it, then click "Get" again.


You will get the case information about the prosecution against Ana Bento, who I think is the head of BB in India.

So, essentially you are telling us to "Get" "Bento"

Heres some more


Blind ad networks: now you see!
By: Michael de Souza
14 Feb 2011 13:18Submit a commentBizLike
Blind ad networks do not allow advertisers to select where their ads appear and are mistakenly equated with uncertainty. The following, which also describes the tools that improve campaigns, should help to dispel fears and misunderstandings.
Blind ad networks are often misunderstood despite the huge traffic they serve. With blind networks, you can't specify the individual mobile Internet sites (mobisites) on which your ads will appear. Instead, you select a channel, such as 'Entertainment & Lifestyle' or 'Premium Portals' (there are nine to choose from altogether), and your ads are displayed across the hundreds or thousands of mobisites within that category.

This kind of selection is a necessity, as it is in any long-tail network. Asking brand managers or media planners to work through a list of thousands of individual sites to evaluate their content and context for a good match to the brand that they're promoting, and then make a selection, would be time-consuming and counterproductive.

Detailed planning impossible

The sheer volume and variety of sites in the mobile web makes detailed planning (of the kind seen in traditional ad schedules for print or television) impossible. And this apparent loss of control makes some brands and agencies very nervous indeed.

It's an understandable quandary. Media planners and marketing managers have a responsibility to protect brand reputations. If you don't trust your ad network to deliver the right quality of traffic, it can feel a bit like passing your baby to a stranger.

Mostly, though, these fears are unfounded. The legacy of mistrust among some agencies and brands is a hangover from a time before many blind networks developed their sophisticated targeting and analytic capabilities, which give you the ability to engage the right users. These capabilities, used in conjunction with real-time reports and active campaign management, can ensure that your campaigns are performing in line with expectations, and reaching the right audience.

The points below provide some practical tips on mitigating risk to your brand, and ensuring that you are always displaying your ads in an appropriate context.

Trust in your ad network's classification of sites

Blind ad networks put a great deal of time and effort into ensuring that the sites listed in a particular channel are classified accurately. For example, the BuzzCity publisher team frequently audits the content appearing on our partner sites for appropriateness to the channel in which it's categorised, reclassifying partner sites whenever necessary.

In the case of large partners with a variety of content on their site or portal, we split their inventory across multiple channels, as needed. So, in a typical news portal, movie, music and fashion content goes into the 'Entertainment & Lifestyle' category; weather, news and traffic information would be listed in the 'Information' category, and so on.
In this way, we ensure that the traffic that you select is always appropriate, and the sites that the ads appear on are representative of their channel description.

Planning tools and surveys

The first step in planning any campaign is to view detailed information, on who's engaging with your ad network, by using campaign planning tools. These provide detailed user data including age, gender, and location of users, as well as the devices being used to connect to the mobile Internet.

In addition, user surveys provide further insight into interests, usage and behaviour of mobile internet users. [Look out for BuzzCity's latest survey, released today, Monday, 14 February 2011, at the GSMA in Barcelona.]

Armed with this information, and an idea of which channel is most appropriate to your campaign, you can go ahead and set appropriate targeting for your campaign.

Price, targeting and the importance of campaign monitoring

Placing advertising directly on specific niche sites to target a specific demographic can cost a lot, per user. The holy grail of planning is to find a media channel that reaches as much of your target demographic as possible, at a reasonable cost per user, to ensure that there is no 'wastage'.

That makes targeting a trade-off (of cost and reach) that media planners are constantly engaged in. You don't want to spend too much per user, but you also don't want to reach too many users outside your target market.

Blind networks offer a number of targeting options to start zoning in on your target market, usually at no cost, including:
Channel targeting (eg 'Entertainment & Lifestyle' or 'Premium Portals')
Time targeting (time of day, date ranges)
Context tags (eg games, information, movies, photos, videos)
County targeting
Carrier/telco targeting
Device targeting (including the ability to specify the brand, operating system, model and feature capabilities of the mobile device)
This cuts out irrelevant traffic, leaving you with an appropriate context that you are comfortable for your brand to appear in.

CPC means you don't pay for 'wastage'

There is a further point to bear in mind. It concerns the CPC (or cost per click) model.

Unlike traditional advertising (which buys only reach or exposure), CPC advertising only charges you for actual interaction with your campaign. Your balance will not budge if no-one clicks on your ads, even if you receive thousands of impressions. You're paying only for clicks, and that occurs only at the moment that a user displays interest in your product or service.

As long as your ad creative accurately depicts your brand offer, there's very little ad spend wastage, and any wastage would be attributed to people who are not actually interested in your offer, who nevertheless click on your ad. This highlights the importance of an accurate yet enticing call to action.

The important point to remember is that, in a CPC world, it's less important to ensure that you expose your brand only to your exact target market. Wider exposure of your campaign isn't a problem, because you aren't spending your budget on any users who don't click.

The value of continual monitoring and optimisation

As digital marketers (and you'll know this if you work at a digital agency or specialist mobile company), we're all constantly emphasising the benefits of digital media - it's measurable, adaptable, accountable and real-time. We criticise traditional media for not being as nimble and 'real-time'.

Be sure that you don't fall into the trap of not practising what you preach. Making ongoing changes based on real-time results can be time-consuming. It also requires analytical enquiry and a spirit of competitiveness. You may decide to hire someone new - an optimisation manager - to monitor your campaigns and get the most out of them. But the rewards are there. It's definitely worth it.

This is the crucial second part of the equation, which is where you can really start to take advantage of the lower cost of blind networks. By constantly analysing the results of the clicks that you are getting, and monitoring and tweaking to ensure that you are reaching the right audience, your campaign will remain on track.

It's too cheap to be valuable!

Some advertisers become suspicious of how inexpensive blind network advertising can be. They think that there has to be a connection between quality interaction, and buying expensive 'premium' media. In truth, there are some very good niche, targeted media properties where it's worthwhile paying a lot per user. Unfortunately, there also a lot of rip-offs out there, capitalising on the assumption that price equals quality.

On a bid-driven network such as BuzzCity, our advertisers determine the price that they're willing to pay per click. Our ad servers allocate traffic based on your CPC bid rate, so the rule of thumb is that the higher your bid, the more traffic your campaign will receive (until your day budget limits your campaign spending).

We're basically ruled by supply and demand. In countries where there's high advertising demand and limited inventory available (countries such as Malaysia, South Africa and the UK), you'll need to bid higher than elsewhere to get substantial traffic.

Similarly, there are bargains to be had in oversupplied markets. Countries such as India and Indonesia have loads of traffic, and relatively little ad competition for the inventory available. Here, you can get loads of value for as little as US$1c or US$2c per click. In these countries, advertisers make the mistake of thinking that this is poor quality traffic, when, in fact, it's simply traffic that's in abundant supply. Don't get trapped in this assumption. You're getting a bargain!

Publishers and transparency

The anonymity of a blind network suits many publishers well, and a number of publishers ask us to sign confidentiality agreements to ensure that we don't divulge their participation in our network.

The reasoning behind this is simple. These publishers run premium sites (with high ad rates relative to network advertising). They also usually have an in-house ad-sales team. They sell as much inventory as possible, usually on a CPM basis, but seldom sell their entire inventory. Once they run out of sold ads, they then back-fill with network advertising from us, to ensure a steady flow of income when they run out their own bookings.

To admit to the wider market that they're actually back-filling with network advertising (available to advertisers at a much lower cost) would harm their perception as a premium publisher, so they ask us not to reveal their names.

This is the positive side of blind networks - you often get great quality, premium traffic, at a fraction of the price that they charge directly. Of course, it's impossible to target only one publisher or site for a campaign on a blind network, but you'll almost certainly get traffic that you would ordinarily pay a lot more for, mixed in with the rest of the network of sites.

Publishers are also demanding transparency

Publishers of mobisites are increasingly sharing the same concerns that brand advertisers do. After all, they too are managing a brand, and they need to ensure that that advertising that appears on their site adheres to their own guidelines, and suits their target audience. They have insight into who uses their site and what these users want, and they realise that advertising from a well-respected brand reflects well on them, creating a richer, better user experience.

Blind ad networks provide publishers with a set of tools to accept and block certain campaigns. Publishers are able to moderate the advertising that's currently live and scheduled for that day. In this way, publishers are able to select campaigns which are a good fit with the users of their sites. This behaviour further reinforces the relevance of your campaigns.The bottom line

In short, the mobile Internet ad environment is coming of age. For the brands who advertise, and the users who interact, this can only be good news. Targeting capabilities on blind networks are constantly improving. So too are the abilities of agencies and brands to tweak and optimise their campaigns. Publishers are getting pickier about the advertising that they, in turn, accept.

Do not fear the blind network! It contains a vast amount of rich interaction, and with the right approach and attention to detail, it's far from the 'wild west' of advertising that it's sometimes made out to be.

Originally Posted by SamSays

Hmmm, an interesting old discussion going on here

Perhaps the following may assist as its relevant to the discussion.

[COLOR="#0000FF"][I]Advertising network
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Yes, we've already discussed how pretending to be a blind network was a decent move by Banner's Broker to try to cover it's ass on their huge scam. You did read ALL of the posts before commenting, didn't you?

In case you missed them as you were diligently going through all the posts:

http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b.../index151.html

&

http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b.../index243.html

Originally Posted by samuel.r

Can someone check her facebook page and see if her status is "in jail" ?

Damn that's funny.

Originally Posted by SamSays

Hmmm, an interesting old discussion going on here

Perhaps the following may assist as its relevant to the discussion.

Hi SamSays and welcome to REALSCAM.com

It "may" be interesting to a Banners Broker member or shill, but, it's not to anyone with the slightest knowledge of the real world.

Is Banners Broker expecting us to believe that its' "members" putting ads for something like "Freds' Lunch Bar" into the Banners Broker "blind network" to be shown who-knows-where and who-knows-when, without proof it has been done, makes enough money for Banners Broker to pay out a 1% per DAY return to members ??

Good luck with getting anyone except get-rich-quickers in your downline.

Originally Posted by JustTooMuchTime

Yes, we've already discussed how pretending to be a blind network was a decent move by Banner's Broker to try to cover it's ass on their huge scam. You did read ALL of the posts before commenting, didn't you?

ALL? I'm suspecting they didn't read ANY, they've just been directed to the wiki entry by their upline and told to cut n paste...

Originally Posted by noname999

Wow, a shill playing the sympathy card...never seen that before...

people's dead patents

LMAO! Who cares about dead patents? Does that mean the goods can no longer be manufactured? LMAO!

Originally Posted by Beethoven

It would be interesting to establish how long she has been in custody for. In theory this could have been more than a week by now? Pure speculation of course, but if she was arrested and taken into custody when they raided the Indian office its possible. But it might have been a much shorter time, perhaps only a few hours.

Either way this is a significant landmark in proceedings. The first high profile BB arrest and pending court case should hasten the end of the BB ride.

Of course, Jamie waters is all bravado, he obviously has no idea that the case will be quashed..sounds desperate to keep on fooling the masses at BB.

Any arest is for any company bad image - for BB much more as being hidden ponzi ,good or bad image is all and everything BB has to survive or die.Anything that destabilize built fiction can be fatal as there are no products or services that could bring new capital and so establish the new way of prosperity (like Siemens case in Germany).Ponzi is always big house of nothing.I think I will not speculate to much if I say that we can now await more members trying in panic to withdraw all they can on one hand and on second - less,if any,new members investing fresh money.How fast this 2 new moments will kill the scam,is to be seen...or authorities will shut the scam down even sooner...but 1 is for sure...the death is in front of BB's door and knocking

Originally Posted by Gregg

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Honestly, doesn't this guy look like he's either committing a felony or seriously retarded?

Looks like a cross between Forrest Gump and Mr Bean.....

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Have they closed the Banners Broker thread over at MMG?

It is still open just a few minutes ago.

Originally Posted by iainsherriff

you are fixated on where Chris went to colleg aren't you..................... I HAVE NO IDEA.

Since you keep asking about the Ads and you dont like what I said before, try this .................... QUOTED FROM WIKIPEDIA

In other words "I will answer reasonable questions" actually means "I wont answer questions because I am ignorant of the answer to this simple question"

AS for posting a wikipedia reference.

Ian: Invisible unicorns exist
Beacon : Prove it
Ian: Here is a wikipedia reference as to the definition of a unicorn
Beacon: But I don't see any unicorns
Ian: The reason you can't see them is because they are invisible unicorns
Beacon: and that is evidence they exist?
Ian: Well that and the FACT that my upline says they do
Beacon : Has he shown you any evidence of them?
Ian: You are not getting it. They are INVISIBLE! In any case he told me he knows people who saw them.

Do you really think that not posting any evidence for invisible unicorns proves they are here based on the fact that you can't see them?

Originally Posted by StevenHoward

The call went unanswered, why tell me now that your phone would be in your locker?
...
What does a shift worker with a locker know about Internet Advertising ?.

You are not getting it. They are invisible unicrons. Bento will be running the India operation in a few weeks when she flys back using Wonder Woman's invisible plane. And then everyione will all be paid out with invisible money. Then Chris "Mr Invisible" Smith will disappear in a puff of logic and fraudalent conversion.

By the way, just in case you hadn't realised, you're in deep poo poo, read up on fraud sentencing
http://sentencingcouncil.judiciary.g...y_offences.pdf

thats an interesting read. I note the average sentencing for top offender s page 20 only goes from 3-6 years in gaol.
And the Max?
Confidence fraud
Fraud: Fraud Act 2006 (section 1)
False accounting: T Theft Act 1968 (section 17)
Maximum penalty: Fraud, 10 years custody
False accounting, 7 years custody

An the lower end ( the sort posting here)- Lower scale advance fee fraud or other confidence fraud characterised by a degree of planning and/or multiple transactions. Less than £20,000: Starting point:18 months custody Range:26 weeks-3 years custody

by promoting BB through talkingbb (I've saved html copies of numerous threads), websites, realscam etc you would be at least partially complicit in this alleged fraud and if the fraud office take an interest in you, you've a MASSIVE problem.

It is the "multiple transactions" thing that seems to push things over the link in UK law.

By acting now, closing your account, informing the people you personally signed up etc, you're at least showing that once you've become aware of the fraud taking place, you're taking action to distance yourself from it.

I dont think he will listen. I hope he does. But I think he will go to the judge with " But they assured me the unicorns were invisible" i.e. "but they told me the network was blind"

The good news (from your point of view) is that the police etc would be looking for the big fish and are unlikely to go after people further down the chain (but hey, a conviction is a conviction) BUT !!! BB could be looking for a fall guy, you, Mr D, or anyone else could be IT.

Best case scenario probably is that you lose the money in you Ewallet, worse case is that you lose your home, car etc (proceeds of crime) and spend a couple of years in prison (so probably your job as well).

Not wanting to frighten you Ian, BUT ...............................

Who should be closing their BB account now then ?

Apparently you dont understand. It is a "blind netword" and you are a "scammer" even though you havent asked for any money and are not selling anything and only asked for simple asnwers to simple questions. Ians upline however are telling him not to worry - "Here is a word blunderbuss which spews out 'blind network/unicorn' hype. Just keep saying the mantra and it will all go away when we fly away in the invisible plane"

Im reminded of they guy falling to the ground from the 100 floor skyscraper. Every floor he passes he reacts by saying "So far so good"

Ian the big guys have a parachute. If you don't prepare for a soft landing you will hit the ground!
Maybe they have offered you a parachute? Be carefull it isnt an "invisible" one.

Originally Posted by SamSays

Hmmm, an interesting old discussion going on here

Oh - Ian has passed the word blunderbus to Sam
Let me guess sam "It is a blind network" ? The unicorns are invisible and the fact we can't see them that proves that?

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

A reminder that BB are scouring the web for none complaint material and accounts will be suspended while the material is removed.

What does this mean?? They are now suspending peoples accounts for making comments that AREN'T complaints? What a weird business!

Originally Posted by Hypanor

What does this mean?? They are now suspending peoples accounts for making comments that AREN'T complaints? What a weird business!

Almost time for this business scam to go "private".....

Originally Posted by Whip

So, essentially you are telling us to "Get" "Bento"

No way, she's ALREADY been "GOT".

This is court info about her.

Originally Posted by SamSays

Heres some more

Hi Sam. Thats alot of words there. Pity most of it is irrelevant. Could you read back over the thread as we have already the discussed the blind network.
It may satisfy those who have no idea how internet advertising works(you must fall into this category), but for those who have it makes very little sense...

Some people are very easily satisfied...

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Originally Posted by Lee Martin

Chris Smith has personally told us that there is no issues in BB India

The only problem being, nobody knows who the h*** Chris Smith is or even where he came from.

@Beacon

Do you really think that not posting any evidence for invisible unicorns proves they are here based on the fact that you can't see them?

Can you lay off the unicorns? Some of my best friends are unicorns and they're very upset that you are saying they are invisible... I know unicorns are real ok? They are certainly more real than the adverts that's for sure!

Okay guys...brace yourselves...in fact, sit down, I have news.

If turns out that Chris Smith....

may actually be a blind invisible black white unicorn...

Originally Posted by noname999

Okay guys...brace yourselves...in fact, sit down, I have news.

If turns out that Chris Smith....

may actually be a blind invisible black white unicorn...

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooo......

Real unicorns have no wish to be associated with this .... thing... person...

How could you be so cruel...

Hmmnn,

don't you just love it when HYIP ponzi players get all deep and meaningful while they're trying to rationalize and justify their behaviour ???



Banners Broker thread, MMG HYIP ponzi forum

"Excuse me for a moment. I'll just go and exercise my free will by pretending I have an international advertising company and ripping off my fellow man and then blame him for believing my story about the advertising company"

Originally Posted by Theseus

Some people are very easily satisfied...

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Oh boy...look at his face...I bet he can not cross the street without help...
Lee : Can I go out?
Mother : Yes but come back in 2 hours.
Lee : Yes mother and can I buy some candy?
Mother : No is not good for your teeth
Lee : Ok I will only meet my girlfriend then
Mother : Noooo...she is not good enough for you.
Lee :Hm...probably you right...then I will stay at home
Mothet : Good boy

Aaaaahhh look at his little face. It's almost as if he understands.

Lee Martin.JPG

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Aaaaahhh look at his little face. It's almost as if he understands.

Lee Martin.JPG

Maybe he knows where are the ads...you never know