Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Beethoven

Either way this is a significant landmark in proceedings. The first high profile BB arrest and pending court case should hasten the end of the BB ride.

I would add that whether or not Ana gets off, the end is close now. People won't want to be involved either way now. Confidence tricks work on confidence. This has now been shattered. Anyone who gets involved after this is a complete idiot.

Originally Posted by iainsherriff

so what happend to the call Steven?
phone on all day, no missed calls , no messages...............

The call went unanswered, why tell me now that your phone would be in your locker?

You'll have to be persistent. I work 12 hour shifts in an explosive environment. It's always on but mostly in my locker and I dont do hands free when driving.

Ah, OK, PM me the correct number then.

Hmmmm, you **appear** to be reasonably high up in the BB hierarchy here in the UK and are supposed to be earning decent amounts of money each month from BB.

YET !!!!, you work shifts and don't even have enough priviliges to be allowed to carry your phone with you at work !!.

What is it you do to earn a living Ian, a factory worker? or similar ?

What does a shift worker with a locker know about Internet Advertising ?.

I'm intrigued that you claim to be "one of my downliners"
if you were

you wouldn' have needed to get my mobile number from someone 'cos you would have my contact details from your dashboard
ALL the people I have sponsored into BB are either family or people that I know and ALL of them have active BB business'

I assumed that your downline included people that were signed up by people that you signed up (arent they?), this is the Multi Level bit of MLM isn't it ?

I guess you are right when you say "he won't recognise me"
Also I'm confused why you would be bothered about having your account locked......if you believe what you say then you hold out no hope of getting anything out of it anyway.

Because it allows me to keep my eyes on what's going on. You might like a closed shop, safe from prying eyes, I aint going to allow that.

So NoName..........will I answer ANY question to someone I dont know who starts out by lying to me and about me.
What do you think !

I think you're looking for a way out, and found a lame excuse.

I will answer reasonable questions put reasonably but if they are put by someone who lies and has to use a false name for some reason, I will be circumspect.

Ah, so that's it is it Ian, you're pissed because I'm using a false name and you don't know who I am.

Spitting your dummy out, stamping your feet and shouting isn't going to make this or me go away.

By the way, just in case you hadn't realised, you're in deep poo poo, read up on fraud sentencing
http://sentencingcouncil.judiciary.g...y_offences.pdf

by promoting BB through talkingbb (I've saved html copies of numerous threads), websites, realscam etc you would be at least partially complicit in this alleged fraud and if the fraud office take an interest in you, you've a MASSIVE problem.

By acting now, closing your account, informing the people you personally signed up etc, you're at least showing that once you've become aware of the fraud taking place, you're taking action to distance yourself from it.

The good news (from your point of view) is that the police etc would be looking for the big fish and are unlikely to go after people further down the chain (but hey, a conviction is a conviction) BUT !!! BB could be looking for a fall guy, you, Mr D, or anyone else could be IT.

Best case scenario probably is that you lose the money in you Ewallet, worse case is that you lose your home, car etc (proceeds of crime) and spend a couple of years in prison (so probably your job as well).

Not wanting to frighten you Ian, BUT ...............................

Who should be closing their BB account now then ?

Well guys, banners broker is telling you to monetize your site with them, please try and see if they even answer you, here is the tweet : " Join BB to help monetize your website, go to BannersBroker for more details on becoming a publisher."

https://twitter.com/bannersbroker

Originally Posted by JordanBright

Well guys, banners broker is telling you to monetize your site with them, please try and see if they even answer you, here is the tweet : " Join BB to help monetize your website, go to BannersBroker for more details on becoming a publisher."

https://twitter.com/bannersbroker

Interesting that: one of the tweets is what appears on the BB Australia page. I know it's the summer holidays down under, but I do wonder whether Roger has packed his bags and is away permanently.

Monetize your site... yeah, right, whatever

Originally Posted by StevenHoward

The call went unanswered, why tell me now that your phone would be in your locker?



Ah, OK, PM me the correct number then. oh dear, contact got it wrong did they

Hmmmm, you **appear** to be reasonably high up in the BB hierarchy here in the UK and are supposed to be earning decent amounts of money each month from BB.

YET !!!!, you work shifts and don't even have enough priviliges to be allowed to carry your phone with you at work !!.

What is it you do to earn a living Ian, a factory worker? or similar ?

What does a shift worker with a locker know about Internet Advertising ?.
you need to read your own forum . It is mace very clear what I do on the BB forum (you should know that according to all your boasting). You have assumed what I make from my BB business (although, again, if your boasts were true you would know the rough size of it from talkingbb).
I work shifts IN AN EXPLOSIVE ENVIRONMENT (in case the type was too small last time). There are no permissions to carry phones no matter who you are.
I am a Flexographic Printer.








I assumed that your downline included people that were signed up by people that you signed up (arent they?), this is the Multi Level bit of MLM isn't it ?

I have no connection with any MLM. That still doesnt cover your lie tho as I also know the one person who has been sponsored by one of my family downline of me




Because it allows me to keep my eyes on what's going on. You might like a closed shop, safe from prying eyes, I aint going to allow that.






I think you're looking for a way out, and found a lame excuse. I found a lame duck but you wont come out from under your rock in case people recognise you





Ah, so that's it is it Ian, you're pissed because I'm using a false name and you don't know who I am.

Spitting your dummy out, stamping your feet and shouting isn't going to make this or me go away.

By the way, just in case you hadn't realised, you're in deep poo poo, read up on fraud sentencing
http://sentencingcouncil.judiciary.g...y_offences.pdf

by promoting BB through talkingbb (I've saved html copies of numerous threads), websites, realscam etc you would be at least partially complicit in this alleged fraud and if the fraud office take an interest in you, you've a MASSIVE problem.

By acting now, closing your account, informing the people you personally signed up etc, you're at least showing that once you've become aware of the fraud taking place, you're taking action to distance yourself from it.


Who should be closing their BB account now then ?

Not pissed, you are an irrelevance . Save all you want, do what you want. I know who I am and what i am doing. people in BB know who I am. I dont need to hide or lie. I doubt if many of you use your real names, apart from those know to BB anyway. That says more about your tactics and morals than anything. i look forward to the time when I am informed that you have had your account locked. Remember to invite me to your Small Claims Court hearing so I can laugh at you.

....................

Iain, you are back. Can you answer my questions please?

And the rest is silence....

oooooooops!

gee Joe. you are SO clever. I don't suppose many people as challenged as you could find out who my wife is.
to make life easy for you............... I have a daughter and a son who has MS. so sticking to this cesspits past (making fun of people's dead patents) morals you can make fun of him along with my dead father.
I have two sisters and a dog. my house is a semi cottage overlooking the Malvern hills. I drive a BMW 540.

Whats the reg of your car Iain?

Originally Posted by noname999

Whats the reg of your car Iain?

Give me 10 mins. :)

Originally Posted by iainsherriff

gee Joe. you are SO clever. I don't suppose many people as challenged as you could find out who my wife is.
to make life easy for you............... I have a daughter and a son who has MS. so sticking to this cesspits past (making fun of people's dead patents) morals you can make fun of him along with my dead father.
I have two sisters and a dog. my house is a semi cottage overlooking the Malvern hills. I drive a BMW 540.

Wow, a shill playing the sympathy card...never seen that before...

Originally Posted by noname999

I would add that whether or not Ana gets off, the end is close now. People won't want to be involved either way now. Confidence tricks work on confidence. This has now been shattered. Anyone who gets involved after this is a complete idiot.

As long as they keep paying, people will continue to not look further into it and sign up anyway. That's the depressing part. The question is how much longer will they keep paying...

Originally Posted by amathyst87

As long as they keep paying, people will continue to not look further into it and sign up anyway. That's the depressing part. The question is how much longer will they keep paying...

I don't know. They may keep paying another while(more and more slowly) but once there are court proceedings the recruitment pace drops significantly. Its only the reals fools would still be taking a risk.

In response to Ian Sherrif :-

oh dear, contact got it wrong did they

Looks like it, maybe I copied it down wrong, just PM me it will you, there's a good chap.

It is mace very clear what I do on the BB forum (you should know that according to all your boasting). You have assumed what I make from my BB business (although, again, if your boasts were true you would know the rough size of it from talkingbb).
I work shifts IN AN EXPLOSIVE ENVIRONMENT (in case the type was too small last time). There are no permissions to carry phones no matter who you are.
I am a Flexographic Printer.

I'm not boasting Ian and I've not followed you that closely on there, you're a moderator.

Ah, so why didn't you say so?. Curious though that in such a high risk production facility, you're still allowed to leave your phone turned on in your locker.

I have no connection with any MLM. That still doesnt cover your lie tho as I also know the one person who has been sponsored by one of my family downline of me

Oh dear, do you really think people are going to believe that ?. You know only too well that's totally untrue.

I found a lame duck but you wont come out from under your rock in case people recognise you

Insults won't work either I'm afraid Ian, but it's really funny how much I'm annoying you by being "invisible".

Not pissed, you are an irrelevance . Save all you want, do what you want. I know who I am and what i am doing. people in BB know who I am. I dont need to hide or lie. I doubt if many of you use your real names, apart from those know to BB anyway. That says more about your tactics and morals than anything. i look forward to the time when I am informed that you have had your account locked. Remember to invite me to your Small Claims Court hearing so I can laugh at you.

If I'm irrelevant, why bother writing back?, little porkies there again Ian.

As for morals, bloody hell Ian, get a grip, you've introduced family members (and others) to an alleged Ponzi scheme, they will almost certainly lose money through this and the one's who have introduced people to the scheme, you've helped turn them into criminals (they themselves are complicit in this alleged ponzi/fraud).

I understand the turmoil you must be going through Ian, but please take a little bit of advice, stop burying your head in the sand, get out quick while you can.


As for inviting you to the small claims court, If it happens, I'll invite everyone on here (Don't worry about that).

Will you please do likewise, invite us all to your crown court appearance (if the authorities take an interst in you).

Originally Posted by amathyst87

As long as they keep paying, people will continue to not look further into it and sign up anyway. That's the depressing part. The question is how much longer will they keep paying...

Like I always said people will throw good money after bad & keep paying subs etc even when they know it is a scam in the vain hope of getting some money back.

I would imagine Raj & his gang will keep taking it as long as idiots like Iain keep paying it in.

Originally Posted by iainsherriff

gee Joe. you are SO clever. I don't suppose many people as challenged as you could find out who my wife is.

Trying to be insulting again Ian, no need for that you know.

to make life easy for you............... I have a daughter and a son who has MS.

Well, sorry to hear about that (your son), but it's not in any way relevant to anything regarding BB, so why bring it up?

so sticking to this cesspits past (making fun of people's dead patents) morals you can make fun of him along with my dead father.
I have two sisters and a dog. my house is a semi cottage overlooking the Malvern hills. I drive a BMW 540.

Nobody is making fun of your son (as far as i can see), not sure why you'd include your sister and dog in the same sentence.

As for the cottage and car, well, I've already outlined a worse case scenario regarding them.

This is going to be a disaster. There's thousands of people already on this... In past cases, what happened to the people who lost their money and what happened to the people who took more money than the money they put in? I have friends on this and they're refusing to leave because they've already sent their id information.

It is really hard to know John. Really depends on each individual case, if they profited, what jurisdiction etc.

Originally Posted by iainsherriff

gee Joe. you are SO clever. I don't suppose many people as challenged as you could find out who my wife is.
to make life easy for you............... I have a daughter and a son who has MS. so sticking to this cesspits past (making fun of people's dead patents) morals you can make fun of him along with my dead father.
I have two sisters and a dog. my house is a semi cottage overlooking the Malvern hills. I drive a BMW 540.

Well Iain in this day and age unfortunately or fortunately depending in your point of view nobody can hide. It only took about 20secs to find that info. I really hope you haven't signed up any unsavoury characters 'cos as long as they can Google they can find you. I see your wife is also a Banners Broker. When this all goes tits up, if you signed her up she might want a word or two. (And she won't need Google to find you) LOL

Oh! By the way Chris (if thats his name) & Raj already have far more info on you than I or anybody else could ever Google.

Worried? I would be.

jeez...

Iain won't answer my questions about BB, and now he won't answer questions about what he seems comfortable talking about. Just can't please him!

Originally Posted by iainsherriff

what do I think about India now?

same as yesterday. Perhaps one of you detectives could supply some details of what the charge is against Bento and confirm who this Bento is...............................

Seriously, you don't know who she is? Why have they even sent you, is it the tea boy's day off?

Originally Posted by iainsherriff

you are fixated on where Chris went to colleg aren't you..................... I HAVE NO IDEA.

Since you keep asking about the Ads and you dont like what I said before, try this .................... QUOTED FROM WIKIPEDIA

Yeah, that's what the spokespeople from most multimillion dollar advertising brokers do when asked about their business, cut and paste a paragraph from Wikipedia

Originally Posted by samuel.r

Can someone check her facebook page and see if her status is "in jail" ?

Relationship (with the truth) "It's complicated"

Originally Posted by Poyol

BB UK Ltd as they seem to be acting as the UK arm of BB.
Or send it to their new address For whom it may concern at 5 Carlow ... you know the rest.
J

That's my whole point, Jason.

People are dealing with an "overseas" company and a subsidiary which "seems" to be a subsidiary of this mystery overseas business.

In real life, the law doesn't work like that.

A member MAY be able to pay for his/her lawyer to deliver a letter addressed "to whom it may concern" but, it's just a letter.

A court, on the other hand, will not enter into "Hail Mary" proceedings.

Which only leaves members with the option of beginning (self funded) civil action against the alleged offenders.

Offenders about who members know very little, if anything, and the majority of whom are supposedly based "overseas."

Would you be confident of recouping any of your losses from the likes of Iain Sherriff ???

Would it be worth it financially to even begin the process ??

This isn't TV and members are up against career criminals whose business it is to make sure they don't lose.

Anyone who thinks the "Iaian Sherriffs" of this world haven't been deliberately put in place to keep attention off the real people behind Banners Broker is kidding themselves.

How much of what Banners Broker members "know" or think they "know" could be proven to the satisfaction of a court AND at what cost would such knowledge come ??

Without an official court appointed receiver, the sad fact is, Banners Broker members have been left without a legal leg to stand on as far as making good their losses.

The ONLY way to cover you a** when it comes to HYIP ponzi frauds is to not participate.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Anyone who thinks the "Iaian Sherriffs" of this world haven't been deliberately put in place to keep attention off the real people behind Banners Broker is kidding themselves.

Exactly. That's why you never get the likes of Dixit, Smith, or even Driscoll coming here to defend BB. Think they're too "big" to spend time trawling the fora? Think again. Plenty of evidence of Raj Dixit doing exactly that. We're not even getting high-level defenders the likes of Stokes or Stepsys, the ones who really have something to defend. No, what washes up here is the detritus, the low-level cannon fodder sent to sacrifice themselves for the cause. Those with no more insight into the workings of BB than any other affiliate, and with a complete lack of the necessary skill to assuage any doubts.

An open message to those being sent here to do "battle" ; go to your upline with a list of the questions you know that will be asked and get some proper answers. If they can't or won't provide them, then simply refuse to take part in their game, all you do in the long run, as Iain and Roger (in his many disguises) have proven, is make yourself look very, very foolish.

Have they closed the Banners Broker thread over at MMG?