Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by AshKen1

First comment underneath this is:
"xxxxx Jonathan xxxxx I want to add a correction. The newspaper did not say “Indian Government”; rather they mentioned “Odisha Government”. Odisha or Orissa is an Indian state ruled by a state political party. They do not have jurisdiction over the whole India, .........” The only reason why we have delayed notifying these rules is representations from legitimate direct direct selling companies such as Amway, Oriflame and Tupperware which felt they may also be hit by wording of the rules. We have ironed out these glitches and the new rules should come out anytime now.”.
Obviously the officer is an Indian Government representative. The interesting fact is that Indian Government now recognizes Amway as “legitimate”; hence there is no question about winding up of Amway in India. Of course.there may be certain change of rules to be followed by the direct selling giant.
This is an extract from an article on the BB forum about an hour ago · Like · 1

And then some bright spark says this....

"Angela Juanita Delorme Why placing info like this in public where it doesn't belong?
about an hour ago via mobile · Like

..... "

Well Ms D suddenly changed her tune - probably afraid that her account will be taken from her, together with excuse as to why she said it in first place. Oh dear.... not good enough from the faithful...

"Angela Juanita Delorme Removed my comment. Also not meant here, but in our official closed BB forum.
12 hours ago · Like

Angela Juanita Delorme Oke. Just read the whole story on our official forum, and you are right. Sorry. Im in Africa, and this was the first i read about it.
12 hours ago via mobile · Like

Angela Juanita Delorme Its a good change for BB to prove the world how great they are!
12 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1"

And then the How Wonderful is the Company cr*p at the end....

Originally Posted by okosh

Here is what you need to do to get a badge....

1)Make silly posts like personal attacks or threats.....That will earn you a tin badge....

2)Keep posting till you start to hinder a ponzi forums mod or admin from "earning" in a program that they got money tied up in....That will earn you a silver badge....

3)Keep posting till you stop a program admin from scamming the punters and he/she sends you a death threat......That will earn you a gold badge.....

Work hard enough for long enough and you'll have a whole bunch of badges to be proud of....

I think a gold badge should already be awarded then - though the threat is veiled maybe you'd like to listen to Poyol's sounds on SoundCloud - Hear the world

Both of these recordings are recordings of my phone's answermachine messages that a Martin Wild left me.

J

Originally Posted by littleroundman

The point is, Jason, none of it makes any difference to the overall picture.

So what if Banners Broker purchased the building ???

HYIP ponzi are notoriously flush with cash.

Look at what Bernard Madoff bought with the proceeds of his ponzi.

Andy Bowdoin of AdSurf Daily infamy purchased a building in Quincy Fl for around $800,000 (from memory)

Why wouldn't he ???

It wasn't his money, it was members' money.

The very members who were impressed by the fact he'd paid so much for a building.

The very same members who sent him more money, based on the fact "he couldn't be a scammer, he's bought a building, he must be here for the long run"

How many "members" and potential members joined up or sent Banners Broker more money based on exactly the same principle ??

Ask yourself, have Banners Broker payments slowed down BECAUSE of the fact BB used some of its' cash to purchase the building ???

Is it just coincidence the 2 events occurred at the same time ??

Jason?
Is someone else posing as me!?

I just sent notification to Indian authorities on one of their email addresses.I didn't want to write all the facts we know about this scam so I sent a link to FinchSells blog as I do belive this is one of the best scamscanning done so far with great illustrations

My blog just had a visitor from a nice little island called Guam.

Guam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I wonder who's there ...

Jason

Found this via Twitter

Banners Broker Is Busted » Glenda Coker

And then this is the official BB Twitter account.... great customer service eh?

Banners Broker ‏@bannersbroker

Your inviter is a great source of information regarding BB
Expand Reply Retweet Favorite

14h Banners Broker Banners Broker ‏@bannersbroker

Try contacting your inviter if you have any questions or concern
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19h Banners Broker Banners Broker ‏@bannersbroker

Back from holidays rested and rejuvenated and ready to roll. Support is here to serve your better.
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Originally Posted by littleroundman

The point is, Jason, none of it makes any difference to the overall picture.

So what if Banners Broker purchased the building ???

HYIP ponzi are notoriously flush with cash.

Look at what Bernard Madoff bought with the proceeds of his ponzi.

Andy Bowdoin of AdSurf Daily infamy purchased a building in Quincy Fl for around $800,000 (from memory)

Why wouldn't he ???

It wasn't his money, it was members' money.

The very members who were impressed by the fact he'd paid so much for a building.

The very same members who sent him more money, based on the fact "he couldn't be a scammer, he's bought a building, he must be here for the long run"

How many "members" and potential members joined up or sent Banners Broker more money based on exactly the same principle ??

Ask yourself, have Banners Broker payments slowed down BECAUSE of the fact BB used some of its' cash to purchase the building ???

Is it just coincidence the 2 events occurred at the same time ??

I didn't say anything about this making any difference to the overall picture, I was just updating you on what I found and wanted to hear what you guys had to say, that's all.

Jordan - PM for you

Originally Posted by JordanBright

I didn't say anything about this making any difference to the overall picture, I was just updating you on what I found and wanted to hear what you guys had to say, that's all.

My reply wasn't targeted specifically at you, Jason.

The primary function of REALSCAM.com is as a information resource with the aim of allowing readers to not only avoid the scam under discussion, but also future frauds.

"Purchasing a building" is a commonly used tactic by HYIP ponzi owners to mislead the inexperienced into believing such a purchase is an indication of "legitimacy"

One has only to read the comments of members to realize the purchase price of a building is soon covered by the increased amount of income from people who have taken the purchase as being an indication the HYIP is legitimate.

They think the HYIP ponzi MUST be legit, otherwise why would the owner/s have bothered to purchase a building if they were going to skip town in the near future.

HYIP ponzi pimps and shills deliberately reinforce the idea that building purchase = legitimate and permanent, whereas, nothing could be further from the truth.

Simple business economics mean a $500,000 or $600,000 "investment" can return the HYIP ponzi double or triple that amount in income from new recruits.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

My reply wasn't targeted specifically at you, Jason.

"Purchasing a building" is a commonly used tactic by HYIP ponzi owners to mislead the inexperienced into believing such a purchase is an indication of "legitimacy"

One has only to read the comments of members to realize the purchase price of a building is soon covered by the increased amount of income from people who have taken the purchase as being an indication the HYIP is legitimate.

They think the HYIP ponzi MUST be legit, otherwise why would the owner/s have bothered to purchase a building if they were going to skip town in the near future.

HYIP ponzi pimps and shills deliberately reinforce the idea that building purchase = legitimate and permanent, whereas, nothing could be further from the truth.

Simple business economics mean a $500,000 or $600,000 "investment" can return the HYIP ponzi double or triple that amount in income from new recruits.

Shortened your post LRM.

That is what makes me so angry about BB (and other ponzis no doubt) is the blatant manipulation of those who are caught up in this.

Good work guys and I agree lets all email Durham Energies about BB scams.

Rajiv Dxiti and Chris Smith will have nowhere to hide. Does anyone know if there is a way to check out chris smith? Maybe that's not his real name. Any services we can use to find more about him and publish it?

Steve whats Durham energies email addresses? Who should we address the emails too?

Originally Posted by StevenHoward

An email to *****everyone***** in Durham Energies offices (with links to this and finchsells) outlining the problems they are likely to encounter in the near future may be a good idea. Who knows, someone may even be grateful enough to send us photos back of BB's office in operation.

If they do, please keep their ID private.

PS :- I can't email as that would give away my IP which BB could use to trck down my real identity.

Originally Posted by sascode3

Good work guys and I agree lets all email Durham Energies about BB scams.

Rajiv Dxiti and Chris Smith will have nowhere to hide. Does anyone know if there is a way to check out chris smith? Maybe that's not his real name. Any services we can use to find more about him and publish it?

Steve whats Durham energies email addresses? Who should we address the emails too?

Durham Energy Specialist Ltd. - Consulting Engineers

If anyone knows a good defamation solicitor can you please PM me!

Jason

Originally Posted by Poyol

Durham Energy Specialist Ltd. - Consulting Engineers

If anyone knows a good defamation solicitor can you please PM me!

Jason

I think we should be absolutely clear on this, Durham Energy are just as much victims in this alleged scam as everyone who joined Banners Broker (who believed it was a genuine business).

They as well as the other innocent victims deserve our full support and we need to make it crystal clear to everyone that they are in no way associated with Banners Broker except they have offices in the same complex AND were there BEFORE Banners Broker.

Originally Posted by StevenHoward

I think we should be absolutely clear on this, Durham Energy are just as much victims in this alleged scam as everyone who joined Banners Broker (who believed it was a genuine business).

They as well as the other innocent victims deserve our full support and we need to make it crystal clear to everyone that they are in no way associated with Banners Broker except they have offices in the same complex AND were there BEFORE Banners Broker.

Oh, I know this.
Durham Energy are a legitimate company; they are not involved with Banners Broker.

Jason

Guys, here are some facts we can send to Durham Energy for them to think about?

Got this research from a blog (The Private HYIP Blog):

Fact 1: As stated many times, nobody can find the ads. Other than a few token (quite silly) ads run by them directly, there is no “footprint” of BB advertising on the internet.

Fact 2: The program was announced in 2010 as a “Straightline Doubler Cycler”, and was exclusively announced on HYIP/MLM websites. If you don’t know what “doubler cycler” means, research it.

Fact 3: The guys who started BB or who are now the leaders of it have zero credentials or history in the advertising business. They do, however, have a long history in MLM / Pyramid schemes.

Fact 4: BB refuses to work with you as a publisher, if you contact them with an offer to put traffic out on a well-positioned, high-traffic website. Several of us have tried this and were not able to even talk to anyone.

Fact 5: BB refuses to work with out as an advertiser, if you contact them with an offer to buy a large block of advertising. Again, several of us have tried this and BB is completely unequipped to handle the request.

Fact 6: There is no organic traffic. BB offers the “choice network” to members, with no disclaimer whatsoever about it being in “test mode” — and Jamie Waters himself demonstrates how to make money from using the “choice network”. However, when pressed on the complete lack of utility or credibility regarding this network, people quickly say “it is in test mode”. This is not disclosed to any members via the dashboard, back office or on the BB website, anywhere.

Fact 7: No businessmen (or women) in a free market economy would “discover” a business model as elegant as BB claims to be — and turn it over to anyone willing to sign up for a free membership. There are (supposedly) millions of dollars in cash flow at play here, with margins that would make the executives at Google salivate – yet the patrons who started BB decided to give it all away to the rest of us.

Fact 8: BB claims to be in business with Clicksor, yet Clicksor has nowhere near the capacity to even begin to touch the advertising flow-through that BB claims to be driving. You can call Clicksor yourself (as I did) and confirm this.

Fact 9: BB is not known to any of the outside advertising reporting agencies who spend 24 hours a day tracking and reporting on the online advertising business. You can call ComScore yourself (as I did) and confirm this.
Fact 10: The leaders of BB never attend, present a topic at or even have a presence (like a simple information booth) at any of the big advertising conferences. This is beyond unusual for a “breakthrough” business such as BB.

Originally Posted by Poyol

My blog just had a visitor from a nice little island called Guam.

Guam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I wonder who's there ...

Jason

One of the most interesting repeat visitors on my blog (searching Google for information on "Banners Broker scam") is a user that browses from an IP marked Canada's General Attorney's Office

I wonder what they're looking for...

Originally Posted by Martin88

One of the most interesting repeat visitors on my blog (searching Google for information on "Banners Broker scam") is a user that browses from an IP marked Canada's General Attorney's Office

I wonder what they're looking for...

Whatever it is they are looking for Martin, I do hope they find it very very soon!!

Originally Posted by Martin88

One of the most interesting repeat visitors on my blog (searching Google for information on "Banners Broker scam") is a user that browses from an IP marked Canada's General Attorney's Office

I wonder what they're looking for...

About time they locked their sights on bb. Some of us have writers cramp trying to alert them to the criminal activities being exported all over the world from their jurisdiction.

that finchsells blog is the most understandable and in depth exposure of bb's scam model on the net. Now that India has put a stop to their gallop, I would be amazed if other authorities are not landing on the blog now in their researching.

Dear Jerygo

Thank you for your efforts. Its amazing how this gentlemen writing to many authorities and organisations that BB have links with i.e Mastercard to create the Banners Brokers fraud.

I would give him a pat on the back.

Gentlemen, I have now written to Durham Agency, and Goa police and of course continually writing to UK newspapers.

I would be grateful if we can spare a few minutes to write to authorities and point them to the the research by jason clark, finchsell, irish newspapers and Goa police raid article.

There is enough information there.

I too am thankful for everyone's efforts in bringing Banners Broker to call.

If you have any information you would like to provide me to go into another article in Sunday World; let me know.

Jason

Originally Posted by sascode3

Gentlemen, I have now written to Durham Agency, and Goa police and of course continually writing to UK newspapers.

I would be grateful if we can spare a few minutes to write to authorities and point them to the the research by jason clark, finchsell, irish newspapers and Goa police raid article.

There is enough information there.

You do me a kindness - my blog is nowhere near finished though.
I find it hard to find any time to do so - mostly in my dinner-hour at work.

Jason

Also gentlemen I have written to Goa Newspaper, here is their email address: teamherald@herald-goa.com

Hi George Myhowcyz (he's on finchsells, but is watching this forum as well).

Maybe you'd like to post some of your wonderful comments on this forum, I tend to check this on a regular basis, rarely on Finchsells.

Just to give people who might not be quite up to speed with my story, a little insight.

I'm a member of BB who became increasingly worried about this "Business", with this in mind I started to post on this and other forums.

It soon became clear that if I posted my concerns regarding BB on any of the other forums i'm a member of, not only would I be banned from there, but my BB account would also be illegally closed as well.

Therefore I started to feed stories only a member of BB could discover onto this forum (and others) without disclosing my real name.


I'm delighted to say that this strategy appears to be annoying some people at BB, that was never my aim, my aim was to stop people who might have been about to "invest" (that word would get me banned from BB too) from going ahead and joining BB (which of course will annoy BB further as they RELY on new members joining).

I'll stop feeding information when I either get my money back or they discover who I am. The first is probably the most likely to happen, but hey who knows.


Over to you George.