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    Quote Originally Posted by Theseus View Post
    Durham will be in a bit of a pickle when the building gets seized then...
    yep, on my first email I already notified Juli about banners broker and also gave her the paper post about the ireland guy (forgot the name..) and she said it was interesting but nothing more, and it's ok because they can't really do anything else..

    Quote Originally Posted by AshKen1 View Post
    Astonishing amount of information you have found out, I must admit my jaw dropped when I read your post. Think we would have to be very circumspect about getting in between tenant and the landlord.

    However, with all that cash swirling about in their coffers, BB has to do something with it, even if it's buying real estate. That at least will have value at the end. Would be interesting whether it was a personal or a company purchase if you get my drift?
    yep, not only they got the place but now they are getting money from durham energy, don't know how much but if they want to keep banners alive they will have to dump that money to the pool of money everyone is taking money out.

    by the way guys, Juli can't give me any contact info of the last landlord so we are kinda stuck on that part..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordanBright View Post
    yep, on my first email I already notified Juli about banners broker and also gave her the paper post about the ireland guy (forgot the name..) and she said it was interesting but nothing more, and it's ok because they can't really do anything else..



    yep, not only they got the place but now they are getting money from durham energy, don't know how much but if they want to keep banners alive they will have to dump that money to the pool of money everyone is taking money out.

    by the way guys, Juli can't give me any contact info of the last landlord so we are kinda stuck on that part..

    Durham should be OK for the forseeable future, they will have a tenancy agreement (i presume), in the UK even if your landlord sells the property your tenancy agreement will still be enforceable. I seriously doubt Canada will be much different.


    Just realised, I'm a part owner in an office building in Canada :)

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    I apologize if this has been previously posted.

    Does anyone know the name of the paper that refers to the recent Goa office raid?

    It is unfortunate that people can trust a company like this with their money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenHoward View Post
    Durham should be OK for the forseeable future, they will have a tenancy agreement (i presume), in the UK even if your landlord sells the property your tenancy agreement will still be enforceable. I seriously doubt Canada will be much different.


    Just realised, I'm a part owner in an office building in Canada :)
    It's very hard to see any "tenancy agreement" being enforceable when one of the signatories is a HYIP ponzi and/or one of it's lackeys.

    There are only 2 possibilities here,

    either Banners Broker simply disappears, or it and its British representatives are busted.

    IF, as has been reported, Banners Broker itself made the purchase, the building will become part of the proceeds of crime.

    There is simply no way all or parts of a HYIP ponzi fraud can turn "legit" and remain intact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASRox View Post
    I apologize if this has been previously posted.

    Does anyone know the name of the paper that refers to the recent Goa office raid?

    It is unfortunate that people can trust a company like this with their money.
    Hiya, SRox,

    you'll find the article on the "Herald" newspapers' website HERE
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    I still can't wait for them to do the "remodel" and increase the sq ft from 15,000 to 24,000. Wonder if Durham Energy knows about it, and if their space will increase?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    I want a badge. :(
    Here is what you need to do to get a badge....

    1)Make silly posts like personal attacks or threats.....That will earn you a tin badge....

    2)Keep posting till you start to hinder a ponzi forums mod or admin from "earning" in a program that they got money tied up in....That will earn you a silver badge....

    3)Keep posting till you stop a program admin from scamming the punters and he/she sends you a death threat......That will earn you a gold badge.....

    Work hard enough for long enough and you'll have a whole bunch of badges to be proud of....
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    Rather odd that not a peep from BB headquarters about the issue in India. They are back aren't they from their Holiday hiatus?

    You would have thought they would have been all over this with excuses as to why it happened, how they were cooperating with the Indian authorities, it is no big deal and their presigious law firm was going to be suing the pants off all the trolls, forum owners for posting such negative comments about this real and ingenious business called BannersBroker.

    But nothing but silence. Kind of makes you wonder if they did pull a runner. Maybe it is time to start calling their offices to see if anyone answers anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okosh View Post
    Here is what you need to do to get a badge....

    1)Make silly posts like personal attacks or threats.....That will earn you a tin badge....

    2)Keep posting till you start to hinder a ponzi forums mod or admin from "earning" in a program that they got money tied up in....That will earn you a silver badge....

    3)Keep posting till you stop a program admin from scamming the punters and he/she sends you a death threat......That will earn you a gold badge.....

    Work hard enough for long enough and you'll have a whole bunch of badges to be proud of....
    Im heartbroken - I only have silver so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beacon View Post
    Im heartbroken - I only have silver so far.
    Yeah, but, you're allowed to use the executive toilet without paying, don't forget that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Rather odd that not a peep from BB headquarters about the issue in India. They are back aren't they from their Holiday hiatus?

    You would have thought they would have been all over this with excuses as to why it happened, how they were cooperating with the Indian authorities, it is no big deal and their presigious law firm was going to be suing the pants off all the trolls, forum owners for posting such negative comments about this real and ingenious business called BannersBroker.

    But nothing but silence. Kind of makes you wonder if they did pull a runner. Maybe it is time to start calling their offices to see if anyone answers anywhere.
    The rent-a-troll mob have been suspiciously quiet too, I miss all of Roger's various personalities, especially when the slag off each other. I'm secretly hoping he'll develop a new Indian one that will explain (in no less than 2000 words per post) why everything is fine over there and it's all been a huge misunderstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okosh View Post
    Here is what you need to do to get a badge....

    1)Make silly posts like personal attacks or threats.....That will earn you a tin badge....

    2)Keep posting till you start to hinder a ponzi forums mod or admin from "earning" in a program that they got money tied up in....That will earn you a silver badge....

    3)Keep posting till you stop a program admin from scamming the punters and he/she sends you a death threat......That will earn you a gold badge.....

    Work hard enough for long enough and you'll have a whole bunch of badges to be proud of....
    sounds like you are badgering us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beacon View Post
    Im heartbroken - I only have silver so far.
    I have 3 gold....Yes I still have the emails.....
    And a box full of silver and a bunch of tin.....

    Don't be heartbroken.....Just keep at it long enough and you'll have a whole bunch in no time.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theseus View Post
    The rent-a-troll mob have been suspiciously quiet too, I miss all of Roger's various personalities, especially when the slag off each other. I'm secretly hoping he'll develop a new Indian one that will explain (in no less than 2000 words per post) why everything is fine over there and it's all been a huge misunderstanding.
    Aww, and there he is...

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    Roger is still out and about, posting words of wisdom - just not here on realscam.com any more as losing the debate all the time hurts his ego.

    Matt Painter What happened in India?
    Oheraldo Goa's complete online news edition :: Investment-firm-accused-of-duping-investors
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    Banners Broker with Dane Sampson Matt this is annoying on many levels, when it has stated on that article that the affiliate Promoted BB as an INVESTMENT which it is NOT !, and then to still go and tell new members they can get a ''High Return''. Affiliates really need to understand why this is NOT an investment and to never give income predictions.
    10 hours ago · Edited · Like..

    Roger Stockburger India is also moving quickly to outlaw all MLM companies where there is financial incentive for recruiting members by way of direct bonuses and linking in the percentage you get paid to the numbers in your team, this effectively puts the future of companies like Amway, Mannatech, USANA, Herbalife, etc into question as far as India is concerned.
    Securities laws regarding investments are similar in most countries, so it's crucial that affiliates in BB understand that this is NOT an investment as such, returns aren't guaranteed, and never give income predictions, and this is not an MLM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypanor View Post
    Roger is still out and about, posting words of wisdom - just not here on realscam.com any more as losing the debate all the time hurts his ego.

    Matt Painter What happened in India?
    Oheraldo Goa's complete online news edition :: Investment-firm-accused-of-duping-investors
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    Banners Broker with Dane Sampson Matt this is annoying on many levels, when it has stated on that article that the affiliate Promoted BB as an INVESTMENT which it is NOT !, and then to still go and tell new members they can get a ''High Return''. Affiliates really need to understand why this is NOT an investment and to never give income predictions.
    10 hours ago · Edited · Like..

    Roger Stockburger India is also moving quickly to outlaw all MLM companies where there is financial incentive for recruiting members by way of direct bonuses and linking in the percentage you get paid to the numbers in your team, this effectively puts the future of companies like Amway, Mannatech, USANA, Herbalife, etc into question as far as India is concerned.
    Securities laws regarding investments are similar in most countries, so it's crucial that affiliates in BB understand that this is NOT an investment as such, returns aren't guaranteed, and never give income predictions, and this is not an MLM.
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    I love the way the BB faithful are convinced that the nonsense they've been fed from the mothership is the truth, whilst everyone else, from us, through national media to law enforcement is totally wrong...

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    Lol! Roger can't win debates elsewhere either, this was posted just after his comment above:


    Salvatore Gomez Not so Roger. Over on BBNetworks facebook is this: "After that we will act.’, an official in Delhi said……” The only reason why we have delayed notifying these rules is representations from legitimate direct direct selling companies such as Amway, Oriflame and Tupperware which felt they may also be hit by wording of the rules. We have ironed out these glitches and the new rules should come out anytime now.”.
    Obviously the officer is an Indian Government representative. The interesting fact is that Indian Government now recognizes Amway as “legitimate”; hence there is no question about winding up of Amway in India. Of course.there may be certain change of rules to be followed by the direct selling giant.
    This is an extract from an article on the BB forum"
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    was just intrigued by JB's post today about his conversation with a rep from Durham Energy Supplies and info from BB that THEY bought the building. Firstly, a listed for sale property hangs around on the net doesn;t it. Nothing comes up under any property searches for 5 Carlow Court, with the exception of previous tenants and Durham E S.

    Whitby Online Directory - January 2013

    that listing is dated Nov 2012.

    Then I thought, what is Stellar Point's history, where were they before Dec 12 and BB? we know that they have used the same address that BB are using now, at King St, Toronto

    Stellar Point INC. :: OpenCorporates

    the virtual office where BB are currently listed as tenants!

    Virtual Office Solutions in Toronto, ON - First Canadian Place | Intelligent Office

    But as recently as Sept 12, they were advertising for IT support

    PHP Programmer Job Postings in Toronto | Search Classified Listings

    with an address at 167 Church Street, Toronto , which is

    Bed Bug Report for 167 Church St, Toronto, ON

    yep,, a private, rented condo.

    looking on linkedin, SP's professionals are all rather new to the company, the longest staff member that I can find, being 12 months with the company. Seems like it was all a bit back ways. Get the affiliates on board and then get the staff in?? I don't know, but what I do know is that it's all very smoke and mirrors, nothing good about BB can be/ has been independently verified, not even the ownership of a much heralded building or any honesty with the close relationship of BB to SP to their 'affiliates'. Why all the cloak and dagger? Most of their new employees on linkedin are all young graduates, god I hope they are not being made eejits of in their first big break!! There really is not end to the victims here.

    Do want to say though, that I believe that Durham Energy Specialists are purely innocent and only guilty of association as all searches would indicate that they have been tenants at this address long before BB ever entered their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenda View Post
    was just intrigued by JB's post today about his conversation with a rep from Durham Energy Supplies and info from BB that THEY bought the building. Firstly, a listed for sale property hangs around on the net doesn;t it. Nothing comes up under any property searches for 5 Carlow Court, with the exception of previous tenants and Durham E S.

    Whitby Online Directory - January 2013

    that listing is dated Nov 2012.

    Then I thought, what is Stellar Point's history, where were they before Dec 12 and BB? we know that they have used the same address that BB are using now, at King St, Toronto

    Stellar Point INC. :: OpenCorporates

    the virtual office where BB are currently listed as tenants!

    Virtual Office Solutions in Toronto, ON - First Canadian Place | Intelligent Office

    But as recently as Sept 12, they were advertising for IT support

    PHP Programmer Job Postings in Toronto | Search Classified Listings

    with an address at 167 Church Street, Toronto , which is

    Bed Bug Report for 167 Church St, Toronto, ON

    yep,, a private, rented condo.

    looking on linkedin, SP's professionals are all rather new to the company, the longest staff member that I can find, being 12 months with the company. Seems like it was all a bit back ways. Get the affiliates on board and then get the staff in?? I don't know, but what I do know is that it's all very smoke and mirrors, nothing good about BB can be/ has been independently verified, not even the ownership of a much heralded building or any honesty with the close relationship of BB to SP to their 'affiliates'. Why all the cloak and dagger? Most of their new employees on linkedin are all young graduates, god I hope they are not being made eejits of in their first big break!! There really is not end to the victims here.

    Do want to say though, that I believe that Durham Energy Specialists are purely innocent and only guilty of association as all searches would indicate that they have been tenants at this address long before BB ever entered their lives.


    This is the problem with such a huge number of posts in a thread, most of the stuff you've unearthed is already there....


    The address in Church St belongs to



    StellarPoint Employee of the Month, Emma Farquharsons' page on Twitter

    Stellar Point themselves were Bannersbroker Limited, Dixit simply changed the name.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenda View Post
    was just intrigued by JB's post today about his conversation with a rep from Durham Energy Supplies and info from BB that THEY bought the building. Firstly, a listed for sale property hangs around on the net doesn;t it. Nothing comes up under any property searches for 5 Carlow Court, with the exception of previous tenants and Durham E S.

    Whitby Online Directory - January 2013

    that listing is dated Nov 2012.

    Then I thought, what is Stellar Point's history, where were they before Dec 12 and BB? we know that they have used the same address that BB are using now, at King St, Toronto

    Stellar Point INC. :: OpenCorporates

    the virtual office where BB are currently listed as tenants!

    Virtual Office Solutions in Toronto, ON - First Canadian Place | Intelligent Office

    But as recently as Sept 12, they were advertising for IT support

    PHP Programmer Job Postings in Toronto | Search Classified Listings

    with an address at 167 Church Street, Toronto , which is

    Bed Bug Report for 167 Church St, Toronto, ON

    yep,, a private, rented condo.

    looking on linkedin, SP's professionals are all rather new to the company, the longest staff member that I can find, being 12 months with the company. Seems like it was all a bit back ways. Get the affiliates on board and then get the staff in?? I don't know, but what I do know is that it's all very smoke and mirrors, nothing good about BB can be/ has been independently verified, not even the ownership of a much heralded building or any honesty with the close relationship of BB to SP to their 'affiliates'. Why all the cloak and dagger? Most of their new employees on linkedin are all young graduates, god I hope they are not being made eejits of in their first big break!! There really is not end to the victims here.

    Do want to say though, that I believe that Durham Energy Specialists are purely innocent and only guilty of association as all searches would indicate that they have been tenants at this address long before BB ever entered their lives.
    well you know, if a little bit more money the last landlord could just sold them the property without making to much noise about that.
    what I know is what Juli told me and I think I believe her. now the problem is in that office, are there any space for the I.T guys and for the tech support or did they just got it to show/to make it so if anyone tells the police about it and they check it it would say banners broker..

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    The point is, Jason, none of it makes any difference to the overall picture.

    So what if Banners Broker purchased the building ???

    HYIP ponzi are notoriously flush with cash.

    Look at what Bernard Madoff bought with the proceeds of his ponzi.

    Andy Bowdoin of AdSurf Daily infamy purchased a building in Quincy Fl for around $800,000 (from memory)

    Why wouldn't he ???

    It wasn't his money, it was members' money.

    The very members who were impressed by the fact he'd paid so much for a building.

    The very same members who sent him more money, based on the fact "he couldn't be a scammer, he's bought a building, he must be here for the long run"

    How many "members" and potential members joined up or sent Banners Broker more money based on exactly the same principle ??

    Ask yourself, have Banners Broker payments slowed down BECAUSE of the fact BB used some of its' cash to purchase the building ???

    Is it just coincidence the 2 events occurred at the same time ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    It's very hard to see any "tenancy agreement" being enforceable when one of the signatories is a HYIP ponzi and/or one of it's lackeys.

    There are only 2 possibilities here,

    either Banners Broker simply disappears, or it and its British representatives are busted.

    IF, as has been reported, Banners Broker itself made the purchase, the building will become part of the proceeds of crime.

    There is simply no way all or parts of a HYIP ponzi fraud can turn "legit" and remain intact.
    When a commercial tenant is in a property that is sold to a different owner, the tenancy agreement still stands and the new Landlord MUST adhere to it.

    If for example the property was seized as proceeds of crime, the confiscating authority would in effect become the new Landlord until they sold it on to a new owner (probably through an auction).

    That's more or less what happens in the UK. The law with commercial tenancy agreements and private one's is quite different.

    I'm just assuming Canadian law is similar to UK, it could of course be quite different.


    An email to *****everyone***** in Durham Energies offices (with links to this and finchsells) outlining the problems they are likely to encounter in the near future may be a good idea. Who knows, someone may even be grateful enough to send us photos back of BB's office in operation.

    If they do, please keep their ID private.

    PS :- I can't email as that would give away my IP which BB could use to trck down my real identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenHoward View Post
    When a commercial tenant is in a property that is sold to a different owner, the tenancy agreement still stands and the new Landlord MUST adhere to it.

    If for example the property was seized as proceeds of crime, the confiscating authority would in effect become the new Landlord until they sold it on to a new owner (probably through an auction).

    That's more or less what happens in the UK. The law with commercial tenancy agreements and private one's is quite different.

    I'm just assuming Canadian law is similar to UK, it could of course be quite different.


    An email to *****everyone***** in Durham Energies offices (with links to this and finchsells) outlining the problems they are likely to encounter in the near future may be a good idea. Who knows, someone may even be grateful enough to send us photos back of BB's office in operation.

    If they do, please keep their ID private.

    PS :- I can't email as that would give away my IP which BB could use to trck down my real identity.
    Shame on you for posting here when 'George' is missing you terribly at FinchSells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Yeah, but, you're allowed to use the executive toilet without paying, don't forget that.
    *Jaw drops* ... there's an executive toilet? Wow... just wow!!

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