Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Beethoven

Driscoll: "they will build you a villa in Turkey"...this is getting ridiculous. Shall I put up the for sale sign now?

He actually said it himself he actually said "this is ridicules" you couldn't make it up

WOW !!! That ended quick.

I was Billy Bollox Just so Ian Knows we are watching him.



All I asked him was.

Is this another Ponzi scheme like Banners Broker?

Then for some reason he just ended the scaminar!!!

What a rude man!

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

WOW !!! That ended quick.

I was Billy Bollox Just so Ian Knows we are watching him.

I missed all the fun

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

WOW !!! That ended quick.

I was Billy Bollox Just so Ian Knows we are watching him.



All I asked him was.

Is this another Ponzi scheme like Banners Broker?

Then for some reason he just ended the scaminar!!!

What a rude man!

You naughty person Joe.....



Well done

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

I suppose they are going to sue the "stupid" Indian Police 'cos they don't know what a blind network is.


Badges?

So they're back to 'just put together a legal team' again?

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Apparently according to Ian Driscoll two fortunes is not too many.

Apparently it is.

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Originally Posted by Beethoven

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Post that over on the FlexKom thread...

Try keep this thread to BB please.

Originally Posted by noname999

Try keep this thread to BB please.

Just a little fun with our old Banners Broker chum Ian. HI IAN !!!

From one of the pro-BB websites:

31 December

Goa incident.

It has been widely reported in the negative blog and scam sites that police in Goa raided the Banners Broker offices and, in effect, closed down the BB operation in India.


As with a lot of scamming sites this information is based on some measure of truth, but generally twisted to suit the negative scammers viewpoint.


Banners Broker had been on to BB people in India who were not operating within the policies and procedures of the company.


‘This is due to some of our affiliates and an ex-employee explaining the compensation plan of Banners Broker incorrectly thus not only causing confusion but breaking the very strict Policies and Procedures of Banners Broker….. The most recent termination was that of our CEO and Director of Banners Broker India, Mr Edney Heredia in the month of October 2012.’


I am hugely amused that anything that questions BB is referred to as a "scamming site". I kind of think that the author is not really clear about blogging and forums. And also am amused at what the site owner does not say about Mr Heredia offering to sell his 50% share of the business for $10k. To be fair he does include a link which has the whole BB statement included (I think - I haven't actually clicked on it yet).

Is this the official BB line then - that it's all the fault of some affiliates and an ex-employee.....who just happens to have remained as a Director of the company, does he not?

"Angry George" is back on the Finch site too. Oh dear.

fair point, noname..I got a little excited in the heat of the webinar! ;)

Ive edited my posts and can post the screenshots in the flexcom thread

However, I've left the one with dave wilde's question to Ian, just for the look on Ians face.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Is this the official BB line then - that it's all the fault of some affiliates and an ex-employee.....who just happens to have remained as a Director of the company, does he not?

Always blame the affiliates, its the ponzi code.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

"Angry George" is back on the Finch site too. Oh dear.

"Angry George" reminds me a little of Balanced View.

Also in one of his rants he kept mentioning giving a "Balanced View". Hmmmmmmm?

I Googled Angry George's full name and it was pretty revealing. Go see for yourself.

Classy kind of guy!

Originally Posted by JordanBright

Hey guys, did any of you see the stuff I wrote, it's some new news



if any of you can comment on this it will be nice, would like to hear what you have to say.

Durham will be in a bit of a pickle when the building gets seized then...

Originally Posted by JordanBright

Hey guys, did any of you see the stuff I wrote, it's some new news



if any of you can comment on this it will be nice, would like to hear what you have to say.

Astonishing amount of information you have found out, I must admit my jaw dropped when I read your post. Think we would have to be very circumspect about getting in between tenant and the landlord.

However, with all that cash swirling about in their coffers, BB has to do something with it, even if it's buying real estate. That at least will have value at the end. Would be interesting whether it was a personal or a company purchase if you get my drift?

What you think?...would have any sence to report BB India case to Master Card?...or they would know already what's happening in India?

Sent you a PM JB

Originally Posted by Mundorf

What you think?...would have any sence to report BB India case to Master Card?...or they would know already what's happening in India?

Its still worth notifying them

Originally Posted by Della Cate

From one of the pro-BB websites:

31 December

Goa incident......


I am hugely amused that anything that questions BB is referred to as a "scamming site". I kind of think that the author is not really clear about blogging and forums. And also am amused at what the site owner does not say about Mr Heredia offering to sell his 50% share of the business for $10k. To be fair he does include a link which has the whole BB statement included (I think - I haven't actually clicked on it yet).

Is this the official BB line then - that it's all the fault of some affiliates and an ex-employee.....who just happens to have remained as a Director of the company, does he not?

"Angry George" is back on the Finch site too. Oh dear.

First comment underneath this is:
"xxxxx Jonathan xxxxx I want to add a correction. The newspaper did not say “Indian Government”; rather they mentioned “Odisha Government”. Odisha or Orissa is an Indian state ruled by a state political party. They do not have jurisdiction over the whole India, which only Indian Government has. Incidentally I draw your and other readers’ attention to another news published in The Telegraph, a Kolkata based national English daily on 12th December 2012 under the heading ” Centre scan on Bengal Ponzi Schemes” quote ” ‘The government is aware of these chit funds and will act against them; let the rules be framed. After that we will act.’, an official in Delhi said……” The only reason why we have delayed notifying these rules is representations from legitimate direct direct selling companies such as Amway, Oriflame and Tupperware which felt they may also be hit by wording of the rules. We have ironed out these glitches and the new rules should come out anytime now.”.
Obviously the officer is an Indian Government representative. The interesting fact is that Indian Government now recognizes Amway as “legitimate”; hence there is no question about winding up of Amway in India. Of course.there may be certain change of rules to be followed by the direct selling giant.
This is an extract from an article on the BB forum about an hour ago · Like · 1

And then some bright spark says this....

"Angela Juanita Delorme Why placing info like this in public where it doesn't belong?
about an hour ago via mobile · Like

Martin Codack There's no excuse for ignorance - absolute idiots spoiling it again for everyone else.
59 minutes ago · Like · 1

Martin Codack Angela this is the truth so why does it not belong in the public domain? BB believe in total disclosure with nothing to hide. Is the 'Odisha Government' a communist regime by any chance? It would explain a lot if they are.
53 minutes ago · Like · 1"

So you have one person wanting to cover this up and the next one trying to blame it on a political regime.

Really??? Guess it makes a change from blaming the affiliates....

BB - just take responsibility for something eh?

Learn How To Effectively Manage Your Own BB Account rip off BB members even more than before Success With Banners Broker by Greg Jeffries

458 people have undertaken this course allegedly.....

"..... Banners Broker is going to change a LOT of people's lives this year. Looking forward to it all"

Yes a lot of people's lives will change this year, but not necessarily for the better.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Is the 'Odisha Government' a communist regime by any chance?

Gotta watch out for them ruskies man. They out to get poor BB...

Rather a lot of these points seem to apply to Banners Broker

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Theseus

Surprised you didn't highlight this one as well:

"3) Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s)."

Isn't that what we call TalkingBB?