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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Ok stop looking everyone, I found Chris Smiths history on Facebook!

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    Banners Broker Ponzi Scam | Facebook
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    Banners Broker busted in India - Investment firm accused of duping investors
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    Quote Originally Posted by waverider View Post
    What a bunch of dills, seriously - on your side of the fence your excuse for not posting your real name is you'll get harassed (yeah, by lawyers for your defamation), and then you turn it around by stating that if we posted our real names we'll risk having our BB accounts closed (or suspended). So what's your point ??
    Duh! Look up "hypocracy" and "double standards"
    And we INVITE LAWYERS . Just give us the name of any BB lawyer
    We will contact Shyster Flywheel and Shyster ourselves and betg them to take us to court.

    As usual this "opur lawyers will gt you" is an empty threat!
    No wonder people wont supply names! they dont want the likes of your mates phoning them with empty threaths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waverider View Post
    I tend to agree with you on that one, Steven. Withdrawal #1 was about $30 short of the sum total I've put into the whole BB thing including fees and such, I do have some concerns about certain aspects about the whole BB operation might not be construed by the lawmakers as totally legit and above board, in that it MAY have some level of "ponzi element".
    Do stick around as yuo promised. That above is called "admitting liability for damnages" in the lawyers circles.

    The legal waters were tested in a court of law in front of magistrates and a prosecution presenting real evidence, not some wishy-washy collection of stuff scraped off the net.
    I invite any BB lawyer to take me into such a court.

    To the credit of what I tend to call dream-stealers here on BS, sorry RS, what you guys are up to here must be like a drug, a kick, a buzz, call it whatever you like. It could just well be you might be on to something, let's not discount such a possibility because there's certainly some valid points being made here, in particular when references are made to BB's "early days" where it has been shown the company was seen to be promoted by affiliates as some kind of doubler / cycler, or whatever you want to call it.
    You need only look at the sig mentioning evil triumphing because good people do nothing.
    See we arent greedy and thats why we dont get suckered in. You can question out motives all you want but attacking the others personally is ad hominem - and is a gioiod indicator that you are losing the argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by activeone View Post
    who knows, your wishes might well be correct and the whole BB thing's a scam.... I have my doubts, but who knows? Pretty much everything is speculation and more or less trivial, no matter which side of the fence it might be coming from....
    Rubbish !
    There is not "balance" here. The two sides arent to be weighed as if equal!
    It is quite clear
    RS had produced material from BBs own site
    WE have seen comnpany registrations, office details
    The who thing is a Hollywood set!
    BB have produced NOTHING - no background , accounts , staff details - nothing
    and the RS people dont even have to support claims . That is for BB to do.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    A Question for any BB member:

    What Due diligence did you do before joining BB?
    "if they are giving the Banners Broker Mastercard,Banners Broker must be a real company." -BB member.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waverider View Post
    in all due respect, the ultimate decision whether BB is some kind of ponzi or not, is a decision that need to be made in a court of competent jurisdiction,
    Rubbish! If you jump off a cliff you will fall to your death. i can supply you with Newton's equations of motion shopwing what the impact will be.
    We can describe experiments based on them
    We dont need to go to a court to say the laws of gravity are correct.
    We CAN discuss what the "impact" of BB will be here.


    There's only one way this argument will ever be settled, and that's if and when BB are required to formulate a defense showing their business model is not a ponzi, but where the majority of revenue comes in fact from advertising revenue and not from member subscriptions (which are basically purchasing more advertising inventory as there are no joining fees, aside from the monthly admin fee).
    LOL So take RS members to court and prove them wrong! We are inviting you to legally settle this.

    I hope you realize the potential implications that can result in publicly defaming companies and individuals on the internet. The resulting law-suit can well strip you of all your major assets, depending on your juristiction's bankruptcy laws, certainly kiss your mortgage and house goodbye, the resultant fall-out may well see you demoted from your beloved 9-5 employee lifestyle to one on unemployment welfare when your boss sees your spiteful attempts at sinking a reputable company a threat to his own business, potentially playing with fire here, but that's alright, you're so damn sure BB's a scam and a ponzi, just stick to your guns, but don't go screaming conspiracy theories and such when the **** hits the fan.
    first of all you are wrong! again. A court would most likely not take personal assets like a home. and if a person is representing a company then the court Could not take them since the legal entity committing the defamation is the company. thats what LIMITED meand in company law. Limited liability. Limited to the amount of shares the company has. Of course individuals own these shares and their liability is limited to the unpaid shares they have. If you look it up you might find Raj Dixit owns maybe one dollar in shares and has no unpaid shares. So that is how far his liability extends to BB or Kibotec .

    Im not really scared of BB sueing me for defamation. In fact Id welcome them to do so. Can you tell me the name of any lawyer they have ? No? That convinces me all the more BB is a fake!

    On the other hand, it may well be a scam. Doubtful, but everything's possible in this world.
    LOL Doubtful. when they promise lawyers and you cant even name one?

    You don't have the facts, just wishy-washy crap scraped off the net.
    Like official legal records? Actual addressess of offices showing someone else there. The records of thiose other companies who have been ther for decades?
    On the other hand, from the pro-BB side, we can't really offer a hell lot more ourselves either,
    You cant offer anything. why -
    1. the management of BB just decided to keep all their past details secret and not register any company or pay any tax?
    or
    2. there isnt anything to odffer- the whole thing is a scam?
    Honestly and seriously, WHO are you going to believe? There'd be about a dozen or three vocal anti-BB people here, really vocal ones, plus a few more with their doubts, thanks mostly to the vocal ones and their wishy-washy "evidence" - there are approximately 250'000 affiliates in BB, even if that number were just 100'000 which is what the numbers thrown around were when I first joined, whether it's 100k or 250k affiliates or a thousand with a grudge of some sort, WHO are you going to believe?
    This is another logical fallacy. Most of the academics didnt believe Galileo. did that mean he was wrong?

    Look up "argument ad populum"
    Argumentum ad populum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    "concludes a proposition to be true because many or most people believe it. In other words, the basic idea of the argument is: "If many believe so, it is so."

    I mean millions believed WMD were in Iraq and Saddam was involved in the 911 attacks and sponsored Al Qayda camops in Iraq.

    But they were also sold a lie do dont feel so foolish.

    There are valid points made from both sides, but the pendulum always tends to swing towards the majority.
    Rubbish! Few if any valid points form you. and argument ad populum

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Another Question:

    What is the address of the new BB HQ in Canada?
    "if they are giving the Banners Broker Mastercard,Banners Broker must be a real company." -BB member.
    "A toyota means 1 thing. Extrenal revenue. That is proof."-BB member

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    Quote Originally Posted by activeone View Post
    I'd love to be a fly on the wall seeing the look on your face as that knock on your front door results in you being served with a notice to appear (summonsed to appear in court) for defamation and slander. I can name at least 10 ponzis that made the same threat, and not one sued anyone. One day you might well end up barking up the wrong tree and risk losing everything you worked hard for.... Is that cockyness worth that risk? That's a decision that can only be made by you... I got a couple of hundred $$$ riding on BB, usually about as much as I'd have in chips on the poker tables of crown or star city casinos, wow there's risk you can lose your money, must be a scam. At the track, there's a real risk you can lose your money. Geez, must be a scam.... Never mind, let's deal with accredited and regulated investments, hmmm, managed fund, yep that'll do. Geez, there is a RISK i might lose some or all of my money? No way, it must be a scam.

    The golden rule of investing is much like the golden rule of gambling, never put in more than you can afford to lose.

    The real beauty of BB is you don't have get yourself in over your head putting in 'big bucks' - I know $25 is a lot of money in some of the countries I've visited, but for most of us here, it's a cheap bottle of scotch or a round of beers at the local tavern, and no skin off our back - for the skeptics out there who like to tread carefully, whack $25 into your eWallet for a yellow package to get started and see how your ad campaign represented by that lone yellow panel you've just bought performs. If the bugger doesn't move to your satisfaction, and isn't about half way finished by the time week 2 rolls along, well you've just blown $25 no big deal.... Not many opportunity things out there where you can tread the water with such a small sum of money, that's for sure.!
    Wait, I thought you wern't allowed to call it an investment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noname999 View Post
    Another Question:

    What is the address of the new BB HQ in Canada?
    And while your at it the new UK Manchester office address please?
    Oh! and sorry to keep banging on about this some info on the owner/leader of the multi-million dollar advertising company Banners Broker Chris Smith?

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by activeone View Post
    Does he REALLY need to know? I, for one, also tends towards respect 'street smarts' far more than academic geniuses.
    Wait a minute, are you, Roger Stockburger, the surfer (or "waverider" if you will) who also calls himself "Active Rog", seriously coming on to a forum full of adults to use one persona to defend the other?

    Quote Originally Posted by waverider View Post
    What a bunch of dills, seriously - on your side of the fence your excuse for not posting your real name is you'll get harassed (yeah, by lawyers for your defamation), and then you turn it around by stating that if we posted our real names we'll risk having our BB accounts closed (or suspended). So what's your point ??
    You obviously can't do it, or you'd either have to make up a name and address, or proffer Roger Stockburger as yours.

    What was it you were saying about "credibility"?


    Quote Originally Posted by waverider View Post
    wow, some fat dude from the Gold Coast with a couple of stock company BB videos on his youtube channel and expressing his excitement receiving his BB prepaid mastercard wearing a T-Shirt that says 100% Pure Dynamite... Rip-tickling stuff to say the least, but I hardly think he's going to be hauled off in the back of a police paddy wagon to the local big house for being involved in what is alleged as a ponzi scheme, there doesn't seem to be much of a recruiting effort here like 'join here' etc - compared to what some of the other 250'000 or so BB affiliates are up to, with videos on youtube, going through their eWallet proclaiming how much money they've made how easily, and spruiking BB big time....
    At last we agree on something, you Stockburger really is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Since anyone here that has an IQ of room temperature knows who I am, I'll play your silly game. I will post my real name, address and phone number if you, waverider, will do the same. So put up or shut up as you told us earlier.
    To be fair, waverider Activeone Roger knows his limitations. Why else would he have his IQ proudly displayed on his taxi car as a private plate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waverider View Post
    I hope you realize the potential implications that can result in publicly defaming companies and individuals on the internet.
    You obviously have no concept of what defamation actually entails. Here's a quote from the BB bible, Wikipedia...

    Allowable defences are justification (i.e. the truth of the statement), fair comment (i.e. whether the statement was a view that a reasonable person could have held), and privilege (i.e. whether the statements were made in Parliament or in court, or whether they were fair reports of allegations in the public interest). An offer of amends is a barrier to litigation. A defamatory statement is presumed to be false, unless the defendant can prove its truth.
    I've highlighted the areas that apply in relation to the comments made here regarding BB. Any case for defamation regarding statements made here, or on any of the oft-cited blogs and newspapers, would be covered under one or more of those first two points.

    The part about it being "the truth", well it's fairly easy to back up every single claim made regarding BB with evidence from either bodies held in high regard (Canadian govt. etc) or from Banners Broker, who conveniently provide 99.9% (their favourite percentage) of it themselves in the form of their promotional material that can be found littering the internet.

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    @waverider. Who do you think we are on this forum? Some eccentric bunch defaming a reputable company, just for the fun of it? Are we trying to dissuade people from investing in google? or yahoo? No. There are people here who have exposed scams before. There are people who have been scammed by bb, and had their money stolen by bb. Or like myself has had a gullible family member or friend robbed and mugged by bb.
    People who want to get the true story out, to try protect other vulnerable people who might be sucked into this ponzi.
    Many of us have spent a lot of time researching this ponzi, contacting media, crime and regularity authorities, mastercard etc etc.
    All of it done for ethical reasons, No one donating their time here stands to gain 1 cent.
    You on the other hand have 1 reason for posting here. To try (unsuccesfully) to defend bb, in the hope that you might help delay the collapse. In order that you will gain some more money from others.

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    Any sign of chinacastle? Wanted to try and talk to him now that he is probably sober.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noname999 View Post
    Any sign of chinacastle? Wanted to try and talk to him now that he is probably sober.
    Man, he couldn't sober up THAT quick
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by noname999 View Post
    Any sign of chinacastle? Wanted to try and talk to him now that he is probably sober.
    him???

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    Default Re: Is Realscam.com a haven for scammers?
    Why do I say the answer is yes you might ask. Well I'll tell you.

    First we have admin Littleroundman. A well known incest pornographer and owner/manager of warez sites. He also scammed one poor demented woman known as Finix into believing he could offer her a new life halfway round the world.

    Then there is Finix herself. A known participant in various scams. She has also tried to fund illegal processors and has at one time worked for the notorious Shadow Crew member Patryn. She is still a Patryn apologist.

    Next we have Okosh. A well known ebay scammer and forum thief. He is also a ponzi participant although he says he has now seen the light. Personally, I doubt it.

    Patryn himself has recently been welcomed into the forum.

    Last but not least on my list ( there will be plenty of others) is Egg-on-legs Lynndel Edgington. He scams by having people believe that if they donate to his cause they are helping to save the world from scammers.
    "Well the above is what my research showed up, comes from the site realscam.com, interesting ,is it not??....really interesting...well lets see how long before it gets deleted here, sorry i was not available earlier when you guys were looking for me but as you can see i had some interesting reading to do.

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    The above copied and pasted from the site Is realscam.com a have for scammers......just in case you think im lying [again]

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    China, you are back. Good. What due diligence did you do before joining BB?
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    sorry left out the letter N in the above.Should have read haven.

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    We got that. Now, what about the due diligence question?
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    Good evening noname, as regards DD,checked online sites, forum discussions,went to visit the offices here in Ireland, when they were based in Little Island before they moved to Dublin Hill, yes, i went to one of their meetings, two actually, made my own decision based on what i personally thought.
    Naturally what suits one may not suit another person ,im happy with MY decision,and the only person i have to satisfy is myself as it is my own money .Of course my DD may not be good enough for another person, that is their choice, its their money and i would not dream of telling them what to do with their hard earned.

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    Please feel free to comment on the piece i copied and pasted as well Nooname, im sure its probably a different Littleroundman and Okosh anyways, those names are so common!!

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    So you didn't do any due diligence? No independent research?
    "if they are giving the Banners Broker Mastercard,Banners Broker must be a real company." -BB member.
    "A toyota means 1 thing. Extrenal revenue. That is proof."-BB member

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinacastle View Post
    Please feel free to comment on the piece i copied and pasted as well Nooname, im sure its probably a different Littleroundman and Okosh anyways, those names are so common!!
    There is probably a thread to discuss that. If you find it, let me know. This thread is about BB. Try to stay on topic. And try to play the ball, not the man.

    By the way, your style of writing has changed considerably. Care to comment why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by waverider View Post

    Honestly and seriously, WHO are you going to believe? There'd be about a dozen or three vocal anti-BB people here, really vocal ones, plus a few more with their doubts, thanks mostly to the vocal ones and their wishy-washy "evidence" - there are approximately 250'000 affiliates in BB, even if that number were just 100'000 which is what the numbers thrown around were when I first joined, whether it's 100k or 250k affiliates or a thousand with a grudge of some sort, WHO are you going to believe? There are valid points made from both sides, but the pendulum always tends to swing towards the majority.
    .
    Correct. many people have had BB promoted to them and not took it up. The vast majority of people who have heard of BB do not participate in it, so using your logic that puts BB in the crapper then? You also are a minority here. Just comparing the activists on one side against the whole of the other is NOT valid reasoning.

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    Just answered your question noname, you going to comment on your friends mentioned in my pasted piece or just ignore it?, thank you.

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