Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Live support is going down due to the number of complaints raised by people regarding lack of payment. And yet, the lemmings still continue towards the cliff...

There are fools on this thread speaking out of their backsides, moaning about bb being a ponzi scheme, yet they have no evidence to back their spiteful statements. Bannersbroker is a business opportunity, you buy and you sell impressions, its the simplest of business models "Buy in bulk and sell on in smaller quantities with a markup" hey presto you make a profit. Furthermore the level of profit is simple for every $20 dollars you spend buying the panels and the traffic you make $7.50 this equates to 37.5 % profit margin. This is typical throughout the business world so why do you surface scratchers think it is an unreasonably high level of profit?. The amount of profit greedy google have made in 14 years has shot them into the history books, all they ever sold were impressions and that's what bannersbroker affiliates are buying and selling. Bannersbroker buy the impressions in bulk from the blind network ad exchange through on e of the brokers that controls the marketplace, and then sell the afiiliates smaller units of impressions through the same mechanism. The process of buying in bulk and reselling in smaller units makes money. Furthermore why is affiliate marketing a crime when bannersbroker do it but not when google, amazon, ebay, facebook and so many other top internet companies do it. Bannersbroker ask their affiliates to refer new people so that their network of affiliates grows, making them bigger and stronger in the marketplace of online advertising. If you have concrete evidence that bannersbroker is a ponzi scheme then you had better show this, otherwise the legal team at bannersbroker will be summoning you to court for scandalising a ligitimate business. Good luck in court to all of you surface scratching liars.

Originally Posted by BB Defender

There are fools on this thread speaking out of their backsides, moaning about bb being a ponzi scheme, yet they have no evidence to back their spiteful statements....... Good luck in court to all of you surface scratching liars.

Hi BB Defender and welcome to realscam. I took the liberty of shortening your statement, for which I apologise.

I hope you will appreciate that this is a forum where we accept everyone who pops in regardless of the viewpoint. But, as you will have noticed, some people are liable to be shot down. However, I hope you will stick around and educate us all in the mysteries of BB as well as be educated on the kind of business you are in.

:)

Originally Posted by BB Defender

Bannersbroker buy the impressions in bulk from the blind network ad exchange through on e of the brokers that controls the marketplace,

Which one?

Originally Posted by BB Defender

you make $7.50 this equates to 37.5 % profit margin. This is typical throughout the business world so why do you surface scratchers think it is an unreasonably high level of profit?.

It took me 10 seconds to find this:

Day 161 Now in Profit on Banners Broker

This is typical when any BB affiliates talk about their earnings. This person put $1,070 into BB in May and their total earnings by October was $10,765. So they experienced a return on investment of $9,675 -- or 906%. Annualized, that is 2,176%

I can find you dozens of other examples of this, including YouTube videos and sales pitches from various "independent contractors".

So, how exactly do you explain all of this actual evidence from screen shots of dashboards, and enthusiastic bloggers proclaiming "zero risk" and "pure profit from here on out" -- when you and the rest of the BB apologists are now trying to downplay this by saying "hey, we only make $7.50 and it takes a couple of weeks to make that...this is no big deal"?

The truth of the matter is that the investment returns are beyond normal, for an activity that the participant spends exactly zero hours per year on direct sales and never sees much less touches the "product".

I'd love to hear your defense of this.

Originally Posted by BB Defender

If you have concrete evidence that bannersbroker is a ponzi scheme then you had better show this, otherwise the legal team at bannersbroker will be summoning you to court for scandalising a ligitimate business. Good luck in court to all of you surface scratching liars.

I for one can't wait, however if the Banners Broker legal team is as slow as Banners Broker themselves are at paying out or giving refunds, I fear we may have a long wait.

Tell 'em to get a move on will you?

Hope some of you get sued by BannersBroker. We have a market for aaa new product boys and girls.

MakeSaleableBanners.

I have just seen that somebody has started a BannersBroker thread on WorldLawDirect.

One of your members has added an extremely good and well written reply. It is extremely professional and you may wish to leave that as your final answer. WLD is not in the same league that it was in the the pre RealScam era but some of you may be interested in the thread.

BannersBroker on WLD

I was first approached by a friend about Bannersbroker in June of this past year. When I initially looked at Bannersbroker, I used what I call traditional asset research methodologies to check the company out. The first red flag that came up was what i found on Whois about their website registration and hosting. Companies who supposedly have millions of dollars in assets do not host their websites with cheap web hosting companies. Reading their Facebook posts, I read numerous posts by alleged Bannersbrokers customer support personnel responding to complaints / questions about slow payments to their members, stating that they were "going through upgrades to their servers." What servers? I also noticed that the majority of their praising members, appeared to be bogus Facebook accounts. To be more specific, said members had zero to no friends. Their only posts were to the Facebook Bannersbroker pages, etc. Digging further, I did a Dunn and Brad search on the company and found no record of the company having any credit. A Thomas directory search also was void of any real information about the company and or who they trade with. Those two facts alone told me everything I need to know about Bannersbroker. No legitimate company with millions of dollars does not leave some trail of having done business with some other company. Where do they get their office supplies? Who did they buy and or lease their alleged servers from? Where did they get their office equipment from? Again, no legitimate company with alleged millions in assets does any kind of legitimate business without leaving some kind of credit and or financial trail.

My friend actually established an account with Bannersbroker for me in July of 2012. Since I had no money in to it, I allowed him to do his thing with the account. The account summary indicates that his initial investment of 150.00 dollars has grown to an account worth 1,200 dollars. If in fact that was true, I would be singing their praises, but in reality the account is worthless. First, Bannersbroker charges their customers a 50.00 dollar a month traffic fee. Additionally, you can never fully liquidate an account with them. Upon a members request to close their account, the member loses all his investments and pending withdraw requests. Interesting to note, requests to close a members account can only be submitted by writing to a third party company in Canada.

There are three ways that Bannersbroker allegedly will payout money upon withdraw requests to their members. The first is to have them directly deposit it in their members bank account. For obvious reasons, this option is insane. Their second option is through a prepaid master card through Vector Card Services. They charge their members 45.00 dollars to send them the card. Additionally they charge a service fee for every withdraw request. Finally, they have two online payment service providers, Panza and Solid Trust Pay that you supposedly can obtain your money from. I waited until my account balance reached 150.00 dollars and put in a withdraw request. They immediately charged me 45.00 dollars to send me a Vector prepaid MC and a 5.00 dollar transaction fee. Three months later, I still have not received a penny from them.

Customer support is handled three ways by Bannersbroker. They utilize online support tickets, telephone support and a live chat. The first thing I discovered when trying to submit an online support ticket, was their notice that due to all of the support tickets they receive, they purge them 14 days after submittal. I have sent in 23 unanswered support tickets to this date. Telephone support is also a joke. They charge their members 5.00 dollars per call to call a third party company in Canada, who does not answer the phone. If you stupid enough to sit on hold for an hour or more, the phone eventually just hangs up on you. Finally, their live chat is a complete scam. It does not exist. It is simply a java script that will produce a chat window informing you that you have from 18-25 people in the que in front of you. if you are stupid enough to wait on it, the que never goes down like legitimate online chat status windows will do and eventually, the script times out and informs you that their chat service is "currently unavailable." In other words, there is no real way to converse with Bannersbroker. If they want to respond to you they will, if not, your just stuck out.

In conclusion, Bannersbroker in my opinion is a scam. They are nothing more then thieves who use a ton of bogus praise made up by either idiots that believe in them and or by themselves, poising as numerous happy members. When they do pay out money, they never pay as much out as a member has invested in to their program. If they did not pay out a little money here and there, they would of already been shut down. Regardless, they are not a legitimate business. They post all kinds of excuses to put people off about getting paid, i.e.. "upgrading servers", etc. but at the end of the day, people are still getting burned. I hope that they find the criminals who are running this scam and put them in prison where they belong.

@sixsigmamb

Hello and welcome to realscam.

Your very detailed post gives us more information to use. Thank you so much for taking the time to post here. We're actually a nice bunch of people as others will agree :)

Even if you never post again, what you put here is valuable.

General sarcastic comment:

I do hope that someone not here until Tuesday realises that realscam members actually carry on researching and don't take the time off.

End of sarcastic comment.

How is BB getting on in Romania? I was searching for the shills promoting "the greatest biggest thing in the history of cyberspace" called worldprelaunch and discovered one of them still promoting BannersBroker. Could Otilia Moldovan be a big fish?

I can not give you direct links as there are forwarders on my computer but you can see the woman's ads


Otilia Moldovan Romanian BannersBroker promoter
Type http://www. then adlandpro.com/ad/1427222/Work-for-Banners-Broker-and-get-paid-200.aspx

Otilia Moldovan announcing the greatest thing yet. It is worldprelaunch.
Type http://www then adlandpro.com/ad/1468556/NEW-2013-World-Prelaunch.aspx?index=0&total=7&

More Otilla Moldovan BB ads
type http://www. then adlandpro.com/UserAds/otiliateacher.aspx

So if simon hasn't spent the entire $218,560 he received here
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then he should have enough to return to victims of bb, clearly he hasn't used the cash to buy a new suit

and this regular income Simon
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I wish that I had followed this thread more carefully.

Has anybody thought of contacting Crewe radio stations?

Here are some suggestions for radio in the area.

"There was supposed to be a BBC Radio Cheshire coming, but, with the licence fee settlement it look like it will never happen.

Cheshire will have to put up with fringe coverage from BBC Stoke, Manchester and Merseyside

BBC radio Crewe.

The Advocacy Network was formed to eliminate all forms of financial victimization and to date we have saved the public over $8M. The most prevalent form of victimization is get rich quick scam, this has been around since the beginning of time. Mostly Ponzi schemes that are based upon any number of key hot sales promotions, such as information (this is the oldest) as in the high tech world information is abundant. Then there is the trading robots, or internet affiliates scams all based on driving a huge network of people who believe the ship has come in. Imagine paying $2K and more for someone to train you on how to earn $10k or more per month. Question is if that trainer is doing so well why in the world would they share any secrets that are helping them earn $100's of thousands per month? Here is the most effective due diligence, simply ask yourself if the offer is selling the goose or the eggs. If they are selling the goose then they are scamming you. The goose I refer to is the goose who laid the golden eggs. If you owned the goose would you sell it? If you did could you sell that 1 goose multiple times? The answer to both is no. No one would sell the goose because they would be a fool to part with a cash flow asset like that. And of course there would only be one goose so selling it multiple times would clearly yell scam, wouldn't it. Those who sell trading platforms, marketing plans, lead generation machines and such are all selling GEESE. If those platforms, trainings etc.. worked the individuals with them would never sell them they would sell the proceeds from the platforms to the public. If I could earn $500 with a software that showed me what trades to make each and every day why would I diminish my gains by allowing 100's of others to use that software? If the software worked it would be a GOOSE and thus I should be able to earn much more money with it then by selling it to others. Come on people use the commons sense you were born with. Get rich quick only relates to the Lottery and an inheritance. Otherwise you become financially independent the old fashioned way, serving others and providing beneficial services and solutions that enrich those you are serving. You and those you serve then both make strides toward financial independence.

Welcome to RS Poyol!

We are doing very well at hitting the first page of Google with many of our threads. Time to get this one more active! And, you can bet the thread will not be going anywhere.

I have been sued twice, but the threats are endless and usually quite amusing. Apparently, I have the FBI ( who I have worked with before) Interpol and the Romanian mafia after me, at least according to a fake De Rothschild scammer. You can read about the suit Advantage Conferences scammer Tim Darnell filed here in numerous threads and on the Harvard law site.

Discovery is certainly most entertaining. You would get financial records and most everything but their used toilet paper. It is quite enlightening!

If BB is threatening you, then you know you are doing something right!

Soapboxmom

Finally a bit of life. Sing hallelujah! Seems you caused quite a stir P. can't believe they wiped the thread.
The drones will consider that a victory, and confirmation of BB's validity! Anyway, I still think MasterCard may be the quickest most effective route.

I believe there's a solicitor's letter from Canada at my old address that I've got to go and collect on Saturday.

Any advice if it is what I believe it is?

*Worried*

Originally Posted by Poyol

I believe there's a solicitor's letter from Canada at my old address that I've got to go and collect on Saturday.

Any advice if it is what I believe it is?

*Worried*

A solicitors' letter is just that, a letter.

IANAL, nor do I play one in a TV series, however, a solicitors' letter, no matter how threatening it may appear can only threaten to take court action, it is NOT legally binding in itself.

IOW, the solicitor is doing what his/her client is asking, nothing more. He/she cannot impose penalties.

First we have questions over jurisdiction i.e. if you're in the U.S.A. and the client is in Canada.

Secondly, no HYIP ponzi promoter such as those behind Banners Broker is going to allow him or herself to get within a bulls' roar of a courtroom which would be necessary should the complaint be allowed to get that far.

How likely is it a HYIP promoter could survive explaining how his/her plan works to the satisfaction of a court ??

IOW, it ain't gonna happen.

Originally Posted by Poyol

I believe there's a solicitor's letter from Canada at my old address that I've got to go and collect on Saturday.

Any advice if it is what I believe it is?

*Worried*

Yes Jason.

You could use it to light a cigarette!

I replied to one threat by thanking the solicitor for his letter and told him that I could not find my lighter so it came in handy to light my cig when I turned on the kitchen hotplate. I can not remember whose lawyer it was who sent it but I think it was probably the one who wrote on behalf of "Terry The Banker" or "Terry The Something Else."

I sent a copy of BoggyBoy's solicitor's letter to SBM, Lynne, Patrick, okosh and a few others and we had the best laugh for a very long time. The solicitor dropped BoggyBoy the women's dirty knicker seller like a hot cake and they did not issue any libel writs.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Yes Jason.

You could use it to light a cigarette!

I replied to one threat by thanking the solicitor for his letter and told him that I could not find my lighter so it came in handy to light my cig when I turned on the kitchen hotplate. I can not remember whose lawyer it was who sent it but I think it was probably the one who wrote on behalf of "Terry The Banker" or "Terry The Something Else."

I sent a copy of BoggyBoy's solicitor's letter to SBM, Lynne, Patrick, okosh and a few others and we had the best laugh for a very long time. The solicitor dropped BoggyBoy the women's dirty knicker seller like a hot cake and they did not issue any libel writs.

I like the cigar thing, I'm always running out of butane. On the other hand, since it was sent to an old address why bother picking it up. Let them return it to the sender, unless you want some entertainment.

Originally Posted by Poyol

On that point can Google crawl this site so threads show up in the results?

The forum and thread are crawled on a regular basis y multiple search spiders.

We have no problem ranking highly on search engines.

However, while there is no shortage of targets, there are only so many hours in the day.

Feel free to post away, and you'll quickly see how well our SEO works.

I'll carry on causing a stir, and making a racket till this Ponzi is closed down.

Letter that arrived was only my prepaid Mastercard - BB have closed my account for being 'naughty'.

I think I'll be drafting a letter tomorrow which will be sent to them. If only I didn't believe everything friends say.

I'm in the UK.

I am not a lawyer either; I have been reading up on defamation laws though- criminal law is more my thing-- seeing as though I want to be a bobby!