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12-23-2012, 03:49 AM
#4801
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
Jordan most credit card companies allow you 60 days to disupte a transaction now, not 30 as before. This changed about 4 years ago.
already passed the 60 day mark too.. but I will talk to them.
by the way guys, you didn't look up all the things about allied wallet, allied wallet was in the news - FBI — Payment Processors Agree to Forfeit More Than $13 Million in Funds Traced to Money Laundering and Online Gambling :)
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12-23-2012, 04:12 AM
#4802
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Carlow1.jpg
So, you buy a 15,000 sq ft building and after a few months of BB ownership you get....
Twice Ya Floorspace?
But hold on, Banners Broker bought 5 Carlow Court? Surely that's the home of Stellar Point?
carlow2.jpg
Why are BB the ones paying to buy and refurbish the premises of an (allegedly) independent company?
Source
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12-23-2012, 04:20 AM
#4803
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Theseus
I thought I
had put it in simple terms, but evidently not. Actually, I sat down to write the whole BB process out, but substituting a tangible item, such as your USB stick in place of panels, but you know what, the whole thing just seemed so preposterous when explained in such a way I decided against posting it.
Seems like it may well be worth me having another go
EDIT: I've tried, and no matter how I phrase it the whole thing just sounds so ridiculous no-ne would believe it.
Your first post was simple to understand. You couldn't have put it in any simpler terms. Anyone saying that they didn't understand it either didn't read it properly, is lying, or educationally challenged. I suspect I know which of the 3 I'm going with. Don't waste your time on him.
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12-23-2012, 08:43 AM
#4804
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
well now. A ponzi scheme, run by a person with proven previous involvement in ponzi scams, (and some of the team of the previous ponzi) is being facilitated by a payment processor who has been fined 13million dollars for money laundering, and is on the FBI website.
A convenient marriage. I think the FBI might be interested in this collaboration. After all there are real and increasing fears about money laundering accross borders, terrorism, identity theft etc. This damn thing goes from bad to worse.
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12-23-2012, 08:48 AM
#4805
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
Jordan most credit card companies allow you 60 days to disupte a transaction now, not 30 as before. This changed about 4 years ago.
Yes I accept that. But that is in relation to a "cooling off" period in case you changed your mind isnt it?
Obviously an illegal scam isnt offering something for your consideration where money changes hands. the "offer" is fake so you are entitled to your money back. all of it! And to the person who suggested he will stay in even though he knows it is a scam, I suggest he uses the same greed logic and gets first in the queue for damages because when people want their money back they may well come calling tio him and only when he says he already reported the scam and asked for people to be paid back will he be safe from paying damages himself. Otherwise he is knowingly participating in the scam and the legal authorities will begin with the likes of him befoe they get to fry the big fish.
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12-23-2012, 09:22 AM
#4806
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
jeff1.jpg
Ian Driscoll
There's my friend Jeff, I met Jeff in December (2011) in Toronto, Canada, where I touched the building, met all the programming staff, met Chris Smith, the owner.... and we're like brothers,
although Chris is from Jamaica originally
Jeff2.jpg
Question: Jeff Who?
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12-23-2012, 09:35 AM
#4807
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Theseus
Carlow1.jpg
So, you buy a 15,000 sq ft building and after a few months of BB ownership you get....
Twice Ya Floorspace?
But hold on, Banners Broker bought 5 Carlow Court? Surely that's the home of Stellar Point?
carlow2.jpg
Why are BB the ones paying to buy and refurbish the premises of an (allegedly) independent company?
Source
We know stellar Point are in fact just the same company with a new name.
But the building has been used by Durham Energy Specialist Ltd. - Consulting Engineers
for decades and they havent left it!
Also I reckon about 150 foot (pushing it probably nearer 140) by 50 foot ( again pushing probably 40) by two floors
Thats about 150*50*2= 15,000 total per floor and that is pushing it . And not including toilets corridors etc.
So I assume they rented a mailbox there or a small office with a phone and table from Duram Energy.
Maybe someone should contact DE and tell them about this?
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12-23-2012, 09:41 AM
#4808
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Beacon
We know stellar Point are in fact just the same company with a new name.
But the building has been used by
Durham Energy Specialist Ltd. - Consulting Engineers
for decades and they havent left it!
Also I reckon about 150 foot (pushing it probably nearer 140) by 50 foot ( again pushing probably 40) by two floors
Thats about 150*50*2= 15,000 total per floor and that is pushing it . And not including toilets corridors etc.
So I assume they rented a mailbox there or a small office with a phone and table from Duram Energy.
Maybe someone should contact DE and tell them about this?
Well, as of yet we don't know for certain that DES still occupy those premises, but if anyone feels like contacting them to find out then the man to ask is
Michael Dlugosz
President
905-424-1117
mike.durhamgroup@rogers.com
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12-23-2012, 09:45 AM
#4809
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Threads are now being blocked and deleted on Linkedin too.
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12-23-2012, 10:13 AM
#4810
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Beacon
Threads are now being blocked and deleted on Linkedin too.
Damage limitation.
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12-23-2012, 10:22 AM
#4811
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
I suggest people join as many Linkedin groups as ppossible and post the FBI link on allied Wallet and the company name change link from Canada as well as the link to the actual offices being occupied.
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12-23-2012, 10:52 AM
#4812
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Jerrygo
Damage limitation.
Yes but the people doing it are then colluding with the scam and cant claim they didnt know about it. Willful ignorance is not the same as ignorance. They are been shown about it but their greed or fear of losing money is mitigating in the direction of ignoring the problem. That makes them liable for damages IMHO.
I think maybe all Linkedin BB group mods should be contacted and asked if they wish to ignore the evidence.
Some may be honest in their dealings. Any who delete legal company and law enforcement references are being dishonest and liable. It also opens up a "locus standi" in that people being discriminated against have standing to take a complaint. If you arent actually directly affected you have no standing to make any claim for damages or reparations.
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12-23-2012, 11:13 AM
#4813
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
As we all know, from fairly early on BB claimed to pay out "$1 million a day" to it's affiliates, which is odd as I'm watching a video (warning: very poor sound) of Ian Driscoll from Oct 2012, where he states (11:40)
On the 2nd of January this year the company had roughly 20,000 affiliates and had paid out roughly $20 million
That's a fair bit away from $1 million a day (about $950,000 away, if you wish to be pedantic) and only equates to $1,000 each. He then goes on to say that 9 months later, with 160,000 affiliates they have now paid out "more than $200 million". Again, that's still nowhere near "$1 million a day" and considering that the likes of Driscoll himself will have been syphoning it out as quickly as possible it would suggest that many, many people haven't seen any real cash from this at all.
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12-23-2012, 11:18 AM
#4814
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Jerrygo
well now. A ponzi scheme, run by a person with proven previous involvement in ponzi scams, (and some of the team of the previous ponzi) is being facilitated by a payment processor who has been fined 13million dollars for money laundering, and is on the FBI website.
A convenient marriage. I think the FBI might be interested in this collaboration. After all there are real and increasing fears about money laundering accross borders, terrorism, identity theft etc. This damn thing goes from bad to worse.
Reminds me that Poyol contacted AW a while to inform them that BB was breaking AW's terms and conditions and was ignored. Makes you wonder why... not...
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12-23-2012, 11:20 AM
#4815
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Beacon
Yes but the people doing it are then colluding with the scam and cant claim they didnt know about it. Willful ignorance is not the same as ignorance. They are been shown about it but their greed or fear of losing money is mitigating in the direction of ignoring the problem. That makes them liable for damages IMHO.
I think maybe all Linkedin BB group mods should be contacted and asked if they wish to ignore the evidence.
Some may be honest in their dealings. Any who delete legal company and law enforcement references are being dishonest and liable. It also opens up a "locus standi" in that people being discriminated against have standing to take a complaint. If you arent actually directly affected you have no standing to make any claim for damages or reparations.
I am sure that BB would really welcome a judicial review in the UK at this moment in time. I'd say no more on the matter at the moment and just watch them panic..........
We know you're watching BB. This is the best place for your information isn't it. Probably better communication on here than there is in your "company".
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12-23-2012, 11:29 AM
#4816
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Beacon
It isnt only cultlike . It is also part of the "follower" culture . Here is a free book ( I kid you not) from "Dr Bob" which I found very informative.
I especially refer you to Chapter 4 but please before you read anything do the 22 question quiz on page 10-12 first.
It would be nice if you posted you score here as well.
But then wouldn't we be following you?
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12-23-2012, 11:53 AM
#4817
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Another Driscoll gem (21:21)....
Do you know how credible you've got to be to get Banners Broker alongside Mastercard? It doesn't just happen by accident, you've got to put a lot of money aside for clawbacks, fraud and all the rest of it. So you're going to leave here today and tell a mate about this tomorrow and they're going to say it's a ponzi scheme, it's a scam, you're going to lose your money. Well can I ask you a question, do you think your mate next door or at work knows more about business than Mastercard does?
No, but then this is what Mastercard said when I contacted them
MasterCard does not endorse Banners Broker
so whilst my mate next door might not know more about Banners Broker than Mastercard, we do....
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12-23-2012, 12:34 PM
#4818
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Theseus
Well, as of yet we don't know for certain that DES still occupy those premises, but if anyone feels like contacting them to find out then the man to ask is
Michael Dlugosz
President
905-424-1117
mike.durhamgroup@rogers.com
did anyone send an email to them? I'm going to send one right now.
can anyone point me to where they said what is their new office place so I can show them?
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12-23-2012, 01:01 PM
#4819
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
For all the BB shills and cheerleaders reading this thread...
I have asked you repeatedly for information on Chris Smith. You cannot provide it. So my question to you all is:
Why is there no information about this Chris Smith?
The answer is obvious. So the next time you want to lie about doing due diligence, don't bother. The very first thing you would do is check up on the owner of the company you are investing in.This is the simplest due diligence of all.
"if they are giving the Banners Broker Mastercard,Banners Broker must be a real company." -BB member.
"A toyota means 1 thing. Extrenal revenue. That is proof."-BB member
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12-23-2012, 01:53 PM
#4820
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
After a couple of replies from mastercard with the usual "we do not endorse mastercard" last week i got an email from someone who seemed a bit more interested. He asked me what were the grounds for my statement that bb were bringing MC into disrepute. And what evidence that bb were still claiming to be endorsed by MC. In a lengthy reply I gave them the quote from the head of bb in Ireland, "Would you think MasterCard would leave us use their logo if we weren’t compliant" and the link for Examiner interview by McCarthy. With of course the sunday world crime reporters investigation revealing that it is a ponzi.
I think that when enough complaints are received by the likes of MC, then they start to sit up and notice.
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12-23-2012, 02:07 PM
#4821
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
BannersBroker
@ Jordanbright The more people you write to. And the more things you check the better.
Originally Posted by
JordanBright
did anyone send an email to them? I'm going to send one right now.
can anyone point me to where they said what is their new office place so I can show them?
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12-23-2012, 02:29 PM
#4822
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
When I was getting that link for Jordanbright, I thought i would look up the Cork office, I notice there is no mention of Kinvara house on there yet . Address is listed as: Regus, City Gate, Mahon,Cork, Ireland. When I did a look up on regis in mahon I came to this. Rent Virtual Offices in Cork City Gate - Regus Republic of Ireland !!! Is this the virtual office in which the 17 virtual workers are virtually working?
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12-23-2012, 02:41 PM
#4823
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Theseus
Well, as of yet we don't know for certain that DES still occupy those premises, but if anyone feels like contacting them to find out then the man to ask is
Michael Dlugosz
President
905-424-1117
mike.durhamgroup@rogers.com
Actually this seems like more up to date contact info
Leanne Skribe
Title: President
Area of Responsibility: Research/Development/Engineering
Telephone: (905) 430-7151
Fax: (905) 430-7154
Email: info@durhamenergy.com
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12-23-2012, 02:44 PM
#4824
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Jerrygo
When I was getting that link for Jordanbright, I thought i would look up the Cork office, I notice there is no mention of Kinvara house on there yet . Address is listed as: Regus, City Gate, Mahon,Cork, Ireland. When I did a look up on regis in mahon I came to this.
Rent Virtual Offices in Cork City Gate - Regus Republic of Ireland !!! Is this the virtual office in which the 17 virtual workers are virtually working?
They've also listed it as "Macoone Online Marketing and then there's the matter of the VAT number that shows up as fake when you run it through the EC verifier...
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12-23-2012, 02:55 PM
#4825
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Every part of bb that you look into turns out to be smoke and mirrors. Prestigeous office in cork with 17 employees busy beavering away, turns out to be a 69euro postal dropbox. Fake vat numbers. And on it goes. What will be next? Chris smith is really Raj's twin brother?
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