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Banners Broker Scam Update « Finch Sells
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Banners Broker Scam Update « Finch Sells
can anyone from admin team send me a pm, thanks
Another rubbish element to your analogy. With mobile minutes you get a report each month saying how many minutes you have used and how you have gone over them. You would know because you know how much phone usage you have. In some cases you will even get an itemised bill telling you exactly where those minutes were used.
This type of monitoring report is normally available for impressions through normal online advertising portals; however, Banners Broker only give you a report which details the impressions you have used for your campaign. For the 'rented ad space' you get nothing but a colour representation (panel) that dwindles down at unusual cycles. Even these are manually updated when the 'engine' is run. This should surely be a relatively basic automation process.
No one understands or knows why the panels are of different colours and values?
littleroundman, I've just responded. It seems my pm's aren't sending so we'll see if you get this one. Thanks
Nope, just checked, seems all my pm's are being stored ??
Before any more comments are made regarding my recent posts I want to apologise if anyone was offended. I hold a lot of stock in this forum and its good intentions and wouldn't want to have tarnished that.
Doesnt matter if you put in $1 a hundred and fifty times or $150 dollars once or $12.50 twelve times.
The total in for ten yellows is $150.
Doesent matter if you take it out $120 twice or $240 once or $20 twelve times it is still $240 out
the total out is $240. Minus in $150 is $90 dollars difference
and again it doesnt matter if that is $9 ten times or $7.50 twelve times it is still $90 from somewhere else
No it is Banners Broker who claim it comes form advertising ! and that is for them to prove! just as they will have to prove it to some regulatiory authority eventually.Furthermore you explain that the $90 that bannersbroker pays out as profit on the twelve panels that were bought and sold comes from the new guys joining bannersbroker, yet there is no evidence from yourself that this is actually the case! its just your feelings that you are expressing.
the point I made is it comes from somewhere else
That only other money i have any evidence of is the money paid in by all these people waiting for "movement" and the refunds asked for by people which werent returned. It isnt just my feelings. It is real people on the radio on the internet and in the newspapers. real names not fake journalist names and not someone who hides behind "the BB team" or some other anonymous moniker!
i would say the $90 profit came from other people on ebay. The difference is they are external to ebay! The $20 they pay you is their own money for the goods you sell and not part of their ebay subscription. i.e. the money is not coming from inside the same syatem. A Ponzi sheme (or scam), named after Carlo Ponzi, is a scheme whereby the promoter pays off early investors with moneys received from later investors. If a scheme involves this element, it is a Ponzi scheme (or scam). ebay are not paying you with money paid by investors in ebay. The money is coming directly from ebay customers and everyone knows that. In a Ponzi scheme people are misled into thinking that the money is coming from somewhere external e.g. advertisments.If I bought an $12.50 usb stick from a wholesaler and sold it on ebay for $20 within a month, then repeated the same cycle 12 times as before wouldn't there be a profit on trading of $90. Would you say that the profit is being paid from some pyramid scheme?
What is the difference betweenno you wouldn't because its clear to see sense in that business. Yet when the product is impressions because you cant see it, you cant touch it, you cant eat it, you feel its fraud.
"no actual measurable evidence of a fire breathing dragon"
and
"no actual fire breathing Dragon"?
and when you do you can time each call after that and if you buy ten minutes you will find that ten minutes of call time later you will be cut off. You can actually measure those minutes. But we see no actual advertisment of the millions and millions of ads supposedly paid for. Not a single ONE!Yet you cant see minutes you buy from a mobile network, you cant touch those minutes, you cant eat those minutes and yet you spend plenty of money buying and using those minutes.
All advertisers on facebook Google etc. are AUDITED by a statutory body. Returns are put in to the tax man an advertising regulator or a companies office. wher are the returns for Banners Broker? Where are the adverts? Billions of impressions. On what site are they?Impressions are a product used by advertisers and they pay good money to buy and use those impressions, google, facebook, youtube etc. are clear examples of how lucrative the sale of impressions are, yet when bannersbroker offer the opportunity for you to buy and sell impressions its a scam.
And the evidence is also there in the early days of BB they announced it as a cycler/doubler. No impressions or ads were involved then.
I don't know, it still says I have messages in storage??
I will go on record and say the Joe Duffy show was my handiwork, however there are other things that I'm not prepared to go public with. Love this forum and wish it the best and hope that you don't give up. Have to say though, I'm finding it a little difficult to progress with as a new member :(
SORRY THIS POST WAS FOR LITTLEROUNDMAN
It's to 'fool' governments that this is a legit business. ASD did this exact same thing with a closed loop advertising scam trying to say it was legitimate. The US government bitch slapped it as they knew that no one outside of that 'advertising loop' would ever see the sites on it. So how was anyone outside of the scam going to buy anything and create revenue for the 'business'? It was all just click, click, click, get paid (hopefully). They had the same kind of rallys etc.
Last edited by Whip; 12-21-2012 at 01:32 PM.
Why do they need to keep worrying about the longevity of the company?
The creators of banners broker have designed an outstanding algorythm that can double any amount of money you put in, and amount of times.
Surely that would ensure the longevity in its own?
hmmmmmmm BS
Last edited by EagleOne; 12-21-2012 at 04:55 PM.
It blows my mind how little the pro-BB crowd knows about basic economics, and particularly the law of competition.
To offer anything more than an industry standard return, you have to provide a service that is extraordinarily new or extraordinarily effective.
Banners Broker ticks neither box.
I could replicate their business model in 15 minutes and be more successful. How? By not handing over 90% of my profits to affiliates.
Think about it.
What does Banners Broker actually have that a competitor does not?
While the common answer is "a boat load of investors", this is actually a hindrance rather than a positive. A rival company can simply duplicate the business model and instead of giving away 90% of the profits to BB affiliates, he could give just 10 or 15% to a private investor (who can inject the exact same cash for a much lower margin). This gap in costs allows the competitor to offer a much better deal to all parties concerned - particularly advertisers. I am an advertiser. And trust me, we don't like paying double when we can go elsewhere for the same ads.
The whole premise that Banners Broker can buy up the web's banner inventory through volume of investment alone is nonsense. A rival company need only take the revolutionary step of NOT paying a bunch of freeloading affiliates an insane return, and suddenly Banners Broker is beaten out of the market because it can't compete with a streamlined business. Just like that.
The problem with being a company that offers a 300% return in a competitive space is that you are going to have rivals queueing up willing to take a 299% ROI, then a 298% ROI, and so on...
Eventually, the competition stabilises the market. And when that happens, you will be doing well to make 10% annually.
It frightens me to think that members of BB would come to a forum, a forum called REALSCAMS who is outlining in great detail, the problems with BB and those BB members think they are strong enough in their beliefs to debate the benefits of BB membership! If they have the neck to come here to do that, can you imagine how they are so easily able to recruit family / friends without conscience!
I personally want to thank legalrep for publicly stating that BB is a Ponzi. All the BB shills and pimps claim BB is a genius business model and a successful business.
But if legalrep is an affiliate, you can bet legalrep's account has now been closed for speaking "ill" of BB. Don't you just love the irony!
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I agree. Much more interesting to have a genuine debate on the issues. Differing opinions are always going to be the case.
We have to remember that many of these people genuinely believe there is a product. I know personally of several people in it that hold this belief.
The regulars in this thread naturally have a bias towards this being a Ponzi. I personally welcome genuine challengers to this belief.
Sadly, the few challengers there have been tend to resort to the old opinions that we are 'naysayers', 'negative', 'dreamstealers', 'don't understand' etc.
Well, I'm a member of BB and am amazed at how gullible the majority of members are, they are totally blinkered (caused mainly by greed).
Take your rose tinted glasses off and look at this with wide open eyes AND, GET YOUR MONEY OUT ASAP, if you can.
You have little time left.
Thats my honest opinion, I'm 99% certain this is going to fold at sometime in the next 12 months, I'll be amazed if it's still around by mid 2013.
I reckon it will probably go in the next few weeks, but hey who knows.
I'd love to be proved wrong and find this is a "REAL" business with real advertising space being sold on the open market.
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