Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Poyol

He answered mine.
About his opinion on his critics.

J

You're just a great big PM fanboy though

Originally Posted by Theseus

You're just a great big PM fanboy though

Now that's unfair!
Just because he likes me better than you! :D

J

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Originally Posted by Martin88

I've just published a brand new piece on the FinchSells.com blog:

Banners Broker Scam Update « Finch Sells

Great post - another post to compete with!

Jason

Originally Posted by Poyol

Great post - another post to compete with!

Jason

The more light that can be shone onto the murky world of BB the better in my opinion.

:)

Originally Posted by AshKen1

The more light that can be shone onto the murky world of BB the better in my opinion.

:)

And the friendly competition will help me get through a few hour slog!

Jason

Originally Posted by Martin88

I've just published a brand new piece on the FinchSells.com blog:

Banners Broker Scam Update « Finch Sells

Nice job and anyone who reads it (and understands it) and still defends BB is doing so out of self-righteous motivation and nothing else.

Originally Posted by Martin88

I've just published a brand new piece on the FinchSells.com blog:

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Possibly the best blog I have seen on this topic.

Originally Posted by Martin88

I've just published a brand new piece on the FinchSells.com blog:

Banners Broker Scam Update « Finch Sells

A debunking par excellence!

I can see a parallel scambusting career path opening up: FinchDebunks.com? (with assistance from the RealScam posse, of course.)

Eat your hearts out Rod Cook and Troy Dooly.

Originally Posted by samuel.r

Nice job and anyone who reads it (and understands it) and still defends BB is doing so out of self-righteous motivation and nothing else.

Those who do,prove BB as scam sometimes even more then we do

Originally Posted by kiwi chick nz

Originally Posted by Theseus

Have you considered asking this guy?

Have emailed him previously and to all my other questions he stated something along the lines of i can be sure bb is no pyramid scheme because it's been going for 2 years and theywould have shut it down (my other posts mention the responses I received from him, he definitely a follower not a naysayer, got bored with his naivety.....

Have you mentioned to Carl Lucas that REINZ might be interested he's involved in a Ponzi? Carl Lucas - Realestate.co.nz

"my upline sponsor well on track to earning over $1.2 million this year" - either bullshit, or someone from overseas has signed him up.

Paihia is a nice little place, I wonder how many of his clients and townfolk he's talked into losing their money.

Edit: He's also involved with Profit-Click http://www.empowernetwork.com/homein...lassified-ads/
And has three other scammy looking domain names using his email address http://www.webboar.com/whois-email/c...cas@xtra.co.nz

Why doesn't it surprise me he's a real estate agent??

Originally Posted by amathyst87

For those wanting to know, no I didn't get paid!

Also have some information regarding Ian Driscoll. He recently started looking into a new business venture starting up in Turkey which is apparently set to make Banners Broker look incredibly foolish in terms of money to be made. Is this a scam? Probably, but that's a different discussion for a different time. Rajiv Dixit got wind of this, obviously wasn't happy with is and has gotten rid of him.

What's interesting to note is Driscoll had just signed a 5 year lease on a new office in the UK as a base of operations for Banners Broker. He has now been left with this lease and Banners Broker don't want it. Its also worth noting this is not the new Manchester office supposedly opening in Jan.

Apparently Driscoll is glad to be out of it anyway. Take from that what you will and if anyone wants my source please PM me.

Don't be fooled. Guarantee 'Dixit' is involved in it in some capacity.

Originally Posted by Whip

Don't be fooled. Guarantee 'Dixit' is involved in it in some capacity.

What makes you so sure?

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Just posted on Banners Broker Australia



A pretty poor analogy. Reasonably sensible up until points 14 and 15. This issue of self funding is utter rubbish.

As a one off it may be ok but you will never have enough funds in to be able to purchase lots of people's packages, you would be time restrained for a start. In addition whilst it may stop new money coming in, it also stops money being taken out of the system.

Thirdly, from a legal perspective if the scheme were to collapse and the affiliate was looking to get their money back, where would they go? Not to banners broker as that is not where they paid the money, but their sponsor. That is who the payment was made to, that is who I would be suing!

New money will be still be coming into the system at some point.

And the whole thing is written under the premise you can actually withdraw money. lol

Originally Posted by Poyol

Why does Paul McCarthy call the company Banners Brokers?
They all seem to do it - do they not know the name of the company they work for?

Jason

And since the name has allegedly been changed, why do they still call it that?

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Claiming that VAT number is genuine and above board - that blows my point that he had deregistered!

I thought it was a fake number?

Originally Posted by Theseus

What makes you so sure?

It's the way these things work.

Originally Posted by Whip

I thought it was a fake number?

It probably is. My prior comment as to why it was potentially shown as invalid was because I said it could have once been valid but was now deregistered; However, today he stated that it was correct.

Ian Hildebrand believes that you can fold a piece of paper 45 times to reach the moon. Thats why he invested in Banners Broker.

He has the sign-up form hosted on his music website, Sydney Music Web and it appears he has an ABN. I feel another call to ASIC coming on...

I particularly like his "List of countrie you can join Banners Broker in" - Antarctica?

Oh - kiwi chick, there was a reason I posted the Ian Hildebrand thing (aside from sending him a message to let him know he's now forever associated with a scam here on realscam). His is the earliest mention I can find (so far) of NZ, although he is in Sydney. He's a prolific e-zine writer though, so could just be a copy/paste from somewhere - or he has knowledge or signed someone up in NZ himself.

At the moment, it doesn't look like there are any individuals who got it going in NZ, rather many have signed up under internationals. I've found quite a few blogs of people from Portugal, SoCal, Australia and others mentioning NZ. Still looking though....

Thursday, December 20, 2012Holiday Post
Hello Everyone!

Wow what a tremendously successful year it has been for BB and our affiliates. We have had quite the productive year and have a lot planned for 2013.

2012 saw us grow from a company of 5 or 6 employees to now just under 100 employees. We have moved our Canadian office into it's brand new 1500 sq ft building, and have grown from having less then 1000 affiliates at the beginning of the year too, over 250,000 affiliates as of the end of the year. We had great times expanding the company and brand on a even greater global scale by making stops in: Israel, Ireland, U.K., Sweden, Poland, and the launch of our BB World Tour in Ireland. Contrary to what some were saying that we would not last even a few months, well we are bigger and have a brighter future that we have had at any other point in the past.

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This will be the last blog (EVER) for 2012 so we wanted to wish everyone a happy and safe holiday season and a Merry Christmas. Stay safe and we will see you all again in the New Year. Thank you so much for ALL YOUR MONEY such a successful 2012 it would not have been possible without all of your business and support.

Thanks

Banners Broker

A post from Poland over on Whirlpool:

My name is Piotr. I'm from Poland, living in UK for a year now.
I've come to this forum while searching about BB.
I've been reading this tread for around 10 hours ( 7 today and 3 yesterday before I went to bed ).
Firstly, my head started to ache an hour ago. :P
What important is I did registered in BB like 2 weeks ago and was eager to try it but didn't got cash that time.
Now, I am really gratefull I haven't done that and found you guys talking about BB.
Seriously thanks to SirFlibble, comeonuptothehouse and many many more people ( from both sides of the barricade ;) ).

I really believed BB could change my life. Because of strugge in MLM I'm involved with, I had some worse times( motivation going down, not sure what to do, etc ).
So then BB appeared like a savior on a white horse!

Right now I sure feel more consious about ponzi, scam stuff, than I used to be before.
In example of BB – no adds generating profit, members waiting for money very long, people get banned, no real office, no support and a bunch of people saying : it's good, it's good just, be like zombie. ;)

I am also scared about BB polish community in Poland. I've seen so many movies about BB done by people who sounded confident about what they do. "Real business! – they say". I wish they were right.

Anyway, thanks for that.
Also, this discussion also helped me to see more details in Network Marketing organisation I'm involved with. That is a fantastic lesson!
Cheers!!

can anyone tell me why my PM's are 'tracking' and not sent? Am I doing something wrong, again!

I hope someone advised Piotr from Poland to try to get the word out there on Polish forums. Some others in his country might not have good enough english to benefit from realscam or whirlpool.

Originally Posted by Martin88

I've just published a brand new piece on the FinchSells.com blog:

Banners Broker Scam Update « Finch Sells

Brilliant article ... I've just posted a link to it on MoreMeneyReview