The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Now I am shocked mind you, shocked. BalancedView promised to come back on Monday and answer every one of our questions one-at-a-time. Here it is Wednesday already, and not a peep from him. I am beginning to get worried that he was in an accident on his vacation and is lying in a hospital somewhere.
Surely he is not ducking us, and all his promises were a lie? Inquiring minds want to know.
EagleOne
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Re France - all the Eventbrite meetings (before they got deleted) were being run by CM Consulting. List of the country 'Independent Contractors' here http://bannersbroker.com/main/sitemap
I noted last night that Australia now has a support number - 03 8652 1096 (Melbourne, Victoria). When called, a distinctly american or canadian (they all sound the same!) accented answering service "Thank you for calling Banners Broker. Dial 1 for Technical Support, dial 2 for Sales, dial 0 for an operator". So far, pressing any button just gave me dead air so will try it again later today...
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Michelle if you read this thanks for sharing your story and wish you and your dad happy holidays
Kiwi
December 12, 2012 at 3:21 am Michelle Levick
I have been with BB since August last year. I have put thousands into my account as have others. I have heard of some of my fellow members not receiving their money for more than 6-8 weeks or more.
My story is that I have been making about $10,000-15,000.00 give or take a bit a month. I purchased an account for my father out of my ewallet funds. I was managing the account as being in his 70′s about 76. It was too difficult for him to grasp. We had to verify our accounts…. so now they have our personal details ( ?? used for ID fraud). I had been putting xtra money in. I went to check on my account and they have now blocked it. Is it because I was managing my fathers account??? or what. Also I purchased $4,885.00 worth of pannels on the 4th of November. Through no fault of my own the WIFI dropped out. Thanks Telstra!! anyhow I still hadn’t received my pannels even after sending them numerous notes and tickets. I had purchased more that day and they all went through fine.
I have sent them numerous notes, tickets etc to contact them to find out what had happened?? I am now totally blocked and so is my fathers account.
According to them I had made over $120,000 (US$) but I had only taken out like $10,000.00 and that was to buy more pannels and to set up my dad’s account.
Be warned!!!!
So over the past 17 months or so I have put in at least $10,000.00 of my own money.
What do I do?????
I hate to say it but I feel that they are dishonerable. I tried to ring them but my message was …”Please check the number and dial again”…
Michelle Levick
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On Twitter yesterday, premium member requested withdrawal within time limit. BB fail to deliver, member told Jan before payment. Guess what, Christmas ruined.
Also, what's with this business with Allied Wallet to get onto their "whitelist". Seems a bizarre way to sort things out.
Judging by his earlier posts if he is lying in a hospital bed then it isn't for a physical injury.
Perhaps he spent time trying to answer the points and couldn't? There you go drones, a BB Supporter and self proclaimed genius couldn't answer any of the arguments. Tell you anything?
This post from bannersbroker new zealand, http://www.facebook.com/BannersBrokerNewZealand?fref=ts was back in august (not a lot of activity at all on fb nz site!) but still made me wonder why this rule was mentioned by Krya speaking on a webinar
"DO not contact the bank directly or your account will be suspended"
why ever not?
can anyone tell me yet who the key player is in nz, or the person that brought it to nz
kiwi
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Have you considered asking this guy?
Simple.Originally Posted by kiwi chick nz
Since 911, most Western Countries have tightened up on their money laundering detection procedures.
"Suspicious Activity Reporting" is now a compulsory requirement for banks in many countries, most notably the U.S.A.
The very last thing any HYIP ponzi needs is for the banking sector to become involved in its' activities.
Thus the need to scare members into keeping their mouths shut
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
For those wanting to know, no I didn't get paid!
Also have some information regarding Ian Driscoll. He recently started looking into a new business venture starting up in Turkey which is apparently set to make Banners Broker look incredibly foolish in terms of money to be made. Is this a scam? Probably, but that's a different discussion for a different time. Rajiv Dixit got wind of this, obviously wasn't happy with is and has gotten rid of him.
What's interesting to note is Driscoll had just signed a 5 year lease on a new office in the UK as a base of operations for Banners Broker. He has now been left with this lease and Banners Broker don't want it. Its also worth noting this is not the new Manchester office supposedly opening in Jan.
Apparently Driscoll is glad to be out of it anyway. Take from that what you will and if anyone wants my source please PM me.
Have emailed him previously and to all my other questions he stated something along the lines of i can be sure bb is no pyramid scheme because it's been going for 2 years and theywould have shut it down (my other posts mention the responses I received from him, he definitely a follower not a naysayer, got bored with his naivety.....
I have bolded 'they' because I hear this a lot from believers, exactly who is 'they'? a mysterious authority proactively ensuring the safety and legitimacy of bb, without being asked? Good grief believers, take note of the other members postings that talk about how tough it is to get someone in authority to even look at bb, it's not until victims come forward someone may take notice............
Until then for any believers still out there reading this forum now payments are late and no one is answering any compaints, those regular members on realscam, especially jason and philhendy, have been working hard on your behalf, so please refer to them as your 'they' when your bb belief deminishes and you tell all your downlines, uplines, sidelines, and friends & family who tried to warn you, that you are very lucky 'they' exposed bb as a ponzi
kiwi
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That's one of the oldest lies in the HYIP ponzi pimps' handbook.Originally Posted by kiwi chick nz
Bernard Madoffs' ponzi was running for approximately 20 years before it was shutdown.
Even then, it was only because he confessed what he was doing, otherwise it might still be running.
Anyone who believes their "sponsor" or "upline" or "Banners Broker" when they use that old lie is about to receive a very hard lesson.
How long did AdSurf Daily run before it was shut down ???
How about Zeek Rewards ???
What's more, those two were in the U.S.A.
EVERYBODY knew exactly where they were based whole time.
NO ONE, except the criminals themselves knows exactly where Banners Brokers is actually based and from where it's being run.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
From Roger Hamburger ("a cheeky little Ponzi scamp at Banners Broker Australia") posted on BB Facebook page:
"Roger Hamburger Why has the UK contractor's contract been terminated before a replacement has been lined up? What if you can't find a suitable replacement for weeks or months? Why are the offices being moved, what will happen to all the staff in Bradford, have they just been sacked, at Christmas?
about an hour ago · Like
Some very good questions there.
Time for McCarthy's webinar, folks
thanks for the update, hamburgler :-)
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The lovely thread on PRC is back on with further comments since Mr P's latest radio broadcast.
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Great site. Yes, made me laugh a lot again.
Just posted on Banners Broker Australia
A pretty poor analogy. Reasonably sensible up until points 14 and 15. This issue of self funding is utter rubbish.INTERESTING POSTING FROM CHATROOM:
(A strategy for a very slow building, but low cash input system)
[9:32:29 AM] Michael Alexander:
If you are attacked by others claiming BB is a scam consider this...
1. A man buys a green package for $415 and doesn’t plan to tell / sponsor other people.
2. BB activates his panels for him with complimentary (free) traffic.
3. Once all his panels double and are activated for free again (second complimentary cycle) and are now set at 50%, he waits for his two purples to complete - which gives him enough money to buy his first Traffic Pack.
4. From his 100,000 traffic hits he just bought, he uses 40,000 of this to activate his two yellow panels and 2 purple panels again. ($80 worth of future income to liquidate.)
5. Then his 2 Blue panels complete and pay him $180 plus two blue panels.
6. He uses 45,000 of his traffic to activate that Blue ($90 of future income to liquidate) and then buys 3 more yellows ($30 of future income to liquidate) from his e-wallet and uses the final 15,000 traffic to activate his 3 yellows.
7. His 2 green panels complete and pay him $540 plus 2 green panels.
8. At this point he has 3 choices: He can withdraw his initial $415, buy his wife a Green Package or repurchase more Panels and increase his Traffic Pack subscription.
9. If he withdraws his money he still has enough to pay for the next month’s Traffic Pack which he does. He can activate his second blue ($90 of future income to liquidate) at 45,000 traffic. His other smaller panels are now completing and this gives him even more money. He re-actives these smaller panels (future income to liquidate).
10. He is being cautious about going up to higher traffic packs right away. So for another month he builds up more money in his e-wallet and then goes up to 4 TP a month.
11. He has enough Traffic to activate his 2 greens and other smaller panels. These greens have been aging. This means they complete really quickly. He gets a further $540 in his e-wallet and decides to buy his wife a green package which he transfers to her.
12. He now has Sales Credit Traffic from her which he uses along with other Traffic he has bought to activate his green panels and other smaller panels.
13. He is now taking off and making more money and repurchasing more panels and building up a residual income. He starts to take out more money.
14. He can also sponsor more friends and family into BB by buying them their Package.
15. NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK HIS WIFE DOES WITH HER PACKAGE????
16. She and all other people he sponsors into BB from money he earns, follow the same pattern of expansion as he does. They make money they can take out and spend and they don’t have to tell another soul!
17. Please know that ALL Ponzis and Pyramids NEED NEW MONEY COMING IN.
BB could stop signups tomorrow and everyone in it will carry on making money.
18. When there is a lack of information, a vacuum is made and unfortunately it is human nature to fill it with negative information. And there are plenty of negative types that like to forward doom and gloom.
19. Don’t increase their TRAFFIC HITS by reading their sites.
20. Don’t believe anything till you are given hard cold facts - not just hearsay and opinion.
As a one off it may be ok but you will never have enough funds in to be able to purchase lots of people's packages, you would be time restrained for a start. In addition whilst it may stop new money coming in, it also stops money being taken out of the system.
Thirdly, from a legal perspective if the scheme were to collapse and the affiliate was looking to get their money back, where would they go? Not to banners broker as that is not where they paid the money, but their sponsor. That is who the payment was made to, that is who I would be suing!
New money will be still be coming into the system at some point.
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