Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

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http://www.beano.com/media/80793/cha...ash-smiffy.jpg

No, get it right, this is Smiffy!

I go out for the day and look what you lot get up to! roflmao

Originally Posted by Whip

Yeah. lol. Words mean things. Funny how his name or his 'management' company can't be found tied to her anywhere but his story:



While it may look impressive, statement analysis shows there is nothing there that actually ties her to his 'management' company.

A woman named 'Rose' at one time said there is a person that exists named Nelly Furtado
A woman named 'Rose says Nelly's perseverance paid off and got her a gig in something called Honey Jam.
The alleged 'chris smith' was going to see Nelly perform.
The alleged 'chris smith' invited someone else to go along to look for new talent.
The alleged 'chris smith' admits he did not discover Nelly Furtado....he was told about her by a woman named 'Rose'

A more likely scenario, Raj Dixit goes looking for a name to use, Googles the address of the maildrop he's planning to use, sees the name "Chris Smith Management", decides to use the name.

Same as "Alfred Bader", a local name picked off the web.

Sent u pm Jason

Originally Posted by samuel.r

...there is no "upstairs" as if these are two offices near each other. They are both simply a mailbox at a UPS store...

Yes, and putting 'Suite' before the number is evidently a 'PO Box trick' acceptable to this store (PO Box vs UPS mailboxes).

With Robert Craddock, Todd Disner and Catherine Parker in this, you can bet it is a scam!

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which is odd, because on Prendeville's show I could have sworn he said there were 11,000 Irish affiliates.

He must be some salesman, that Paul McCarthy, 6000 new victims affiliates in 2 weeks.


Either that or he's "fibbing"......

Originally Posted by Wizzard7

With Robert Craddock, Todd Disner and Catherine Parker in this, you can bet it is a scam!

I didn't understand what you meant, but have had a wee look.

http://asdupdates.com/wordpress/archives/3075

Interesting...

Originally Posted by Theseus

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which is odd, because on Prendeville's show I could have sworn he said there were 11,000 Irish affiliates.

He must be some salesman, that Paul McCarthy, 6000 new victims affiliates in 2 weeks.


Either that or he's "fibbing"......

And Prendeville gave him the medium to spread his lies.

Originally Posted by Theseus

A more likely scenario, Raj Dixit goes looking for a name to use, Googles the address of the maildrop he's planning to use, sees the name "Chris Smith Management", decides to use the name.

Same as "Alfred Bader", a local name picked off the web.

Well there seems to be actual unique individual people attached to the names whether fake or not.

Banners Broker Review
"David Hooker, BB’s new Business Development and Compliance Officer"

Raj Dixit BB’S COO, “Will Banners Broker start to go after these attackers?" The answer was a resounding "Yes!"
lol

BannersBrokerEnFrance.org - Banners Broker En France
seems to be their France person
His schpeel on his site ( I say his but it is piggybacked on a Tucows server)
Doesnt mention and corporate structure or even if he works for BB as an employee.
He only mentions he is in France and his name in an out of the way page.
Editorial: The Meaning Of Success





Domain ID:D166158216-LROR
Domain Name:BANNERSBROKERENFRANCE.ORG
Created On:23-Jul-2012 08:45:39 UTC
Last Updated On:22-Sep-2012 03:50:55 UTC
Expiration Date:23-Jul-2013 08:45:39 UTC
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Registrant ID:CR119720210
Registrant Name:Al Baker
Registrant Organization:Components of Success Inc.
Registrant Street1:15348 Glastonbury
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Registrant City:Detroit
Registrant State/Province:Michigan
Registrant Postal Code:48223
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Registrant Phone:+1.3132736077
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Admin ID:CR119720212
Admin Name:Al Baker
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Admin Phone:+55.6597584
Admin Phone Ext.:
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Tech ID:CR119720211
Tech Name:Al Baker
Tech Street1:4 rue de Jeandeys
Tech Street2:
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Name Server:NS11.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
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Note the Detroit address and no doubt his home address in SW France.
Im sure the local gendarmarie or mayor Mairie de Saint-Seurin-de-Cadourne might be interested in keeping tabs on him before the pyramid collapses.

Stokes already starting his next "business" venture. Can he see the writing on the wall for Banners Broker?
He's looking for suckers in the right place.

Gotta have the next scam lined up eh?


Mark Stokes

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Mark Stokes for those already in we will do a quick webianr on it soon , all you have to do is visit 3 sites a day to qualify for the daily profit, NOTE 3% bonus paid daily for all money put in before 25th December

James Pitsillides yessssssss

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Stokes already starting his next "business" venture. Can he see the writing on the wall for Banners Broker?
He's looking for suckers in the right place.

Gotta have the next scam lined up eh?


Mark Stokes

ok guys your next income stream to go along side BB **THIS HAS OUR HIGHEST RECOMMENDATION** James and I have secretly been testing and making money with this for 4 weeks , we have made built it from $350 to $2400 in that time , this pays daily profit as you can see we are getting $48 a day profit passive , get your free account and claim your $10 ad package , GO CHECK IT OUT http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=ms118





Mark Stokes for those already in we will do a quick webianr on it soon , all you have to do is visit 3 sites a day to qualify for the daily profit, NOTE 3% bonus paid daily for all money put in before 25th December

James Pitsillides yessssssss

I'd be more interested in knowing what Driscoll is up to.....

Laughing into the sunset...

Originally Posted by noname999

Laughing into the sunset...

Having just laughed all the way to the Bank.

Originally Posted by noname999

Laughing into the sunset...

Hopefully somewhere that the UK has an extradition treaty with then. Perhaps he's off to see his old pal Neale Pocock on the Costa Blanca?

Hi all, not been able to comment much lately as have been extremely busy at work.

The Ian Driscoll issue seems to be yet another mystery of Banners Broker, in particular the closure of the Banners Broker or Adverts Galore offices in Bradford. One point that seems to have been missed is what has happened to the employees of that office. A few months ago the 'big thing' was the introduction of Advertising Co-ordinators. These were people that were separately employed to run accounts on behalf of members. They were not allowed to have their own account and were being trained to get the best out of the system for the customer.

Are there any members that have used the Advertising Co-ordinator system? What is their experience of it?

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Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Hi all, not been able to comment much lately as have been extremely busy at work.

The Ian Driscoll issue seems to be yet another mystery of Banners Broker, in particular the closure of the Banners Broker or Adverts Galore offices in Bradford. One point that seems to have been missed is what has happened to the employees of that office. A few months ago the 'big thing' was the introduction of Advertising Co-ordinators. These were people that were separately employed to run accounts on behalf of members. They were not allowed to have their own account and were being trained to get the best out of the system for the customer.

Are there any members that have used the Advertising Co-ordinator system? What is their experience of it?

The whole "move to Manchester" scenario stinks. Any "normal" business would have the "new" national "contractor" in place before announcing the old one had simply ceased trading.

I'm also puzzled how, not having anyone to immediately fill Driscoll's shoes, they have determined that the best plan is to move the operation to Manchester. What happens to the Bradford staff (I'm assuming as McCarthy needs a staff of 20 or so just for Ireland there must be at least that for the whole of the UK), do they simply lose their jobs? What happens if the "new contractor" isn't based there?

Strikes me that this hasn't been well thought out, but then that's about par for the course, isn't it?

From this article mentioned above Banners Broker Review

David Hooker then proceeded to pull the curtain off Banner's Brokers business model - how the “blind network” works.

He addressed these points in a full 2 hour presentation on how the game is played, making it clear that those attackers actually don’t have a clue about the real inside game of internet advertising.

The only thing I ask is to be truthful and not distort facts or present information as factual that isn't. Actually investigate and get facts before you report.

That would be honest journalism.

And also realize this: None of the attackers have so much has asked a single question to Banners Broker about their business model.

I am sure that any one of those very mud slingers would demand the same fair treatment if the tables were turned.

Has he really just said 'none of the attackers have asked a single question about the business model'. Surely that is all we have done, it is the most important thing. It is BB that are being secretive about the answers!

The other notable point in that article is that they have allegedly asked various people to come and view their operations? I cannot believe that they all would say no. At the very least why don't they post some pictures up of their offices, interior etc. Evenbetter invite the leading financial press around so that they can show off their success in public.

For a 'business' with an objective of changing lives they seem very secretive and hidden about everything.

Originally Posted by Theseus

The whole "move to Manchester" scenario stinks. Any "normal" business would have the "new" national "contractor" in place before announcing the old one had simply ceased trading.

I'm also puzzled how, not having anyone to immediately fill Driscoll's shoes, they have determined that the best plan is to move the operation to Manchester. What happens to the Bradford staff (I'm assuming as McCarthy needs a staff of 20 or so just for Ireland there must be at least that for the whole of the UK), do they simply lose their jobs? What happens if the "new contractor" isn't based there?

Strikes me that this hasn't been well thought out, but then that's about par for the course, isn't it?

Totally agree - and again the Banners Broker faithful just swallow it without question. The UK leader is gone, no one knows if it was mutual etc. and its just another normal day for these guys?

I wonder if Rogers know that Hooker is endorsing a Ponzi?

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Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Stokes already starting his next "business" venture. Can he see the writing on the wall for Banners Broker?
He's looking for suckers in the right place.

Gotta have the next scam lined up eh?


Mark Stokes

ok guys your next income stream to go along side BB **THIS HAS OUR HIGHEST RECOMMENDATION** James and I have secretly been testing and making money with this for 4 weeks , we have made built it from $350 to $2400 in that time , this pays daily profit as you can see we are getting $48 a day profit passive , get your free account and claim your $10 ad package , GO CHECK IT OUT http://www.profitclicking.com/?r=ms118

Mark Stokes for those already in we will do a quick webianr on it soon , all you have to do is visit 3 sites a day to qualify for the daily profit, NOTE 3% bonus paid daily for all money put in before 25th December

James Pitsillides yessssssss

HeHe,

now THAT would have to be the funniest HYIP ponzi pimp post of the year.

ProfitClicking (formerly JustGotPaid) HYIP ponzi fraud is closer to collapsing than Banners Broker.

Anyone following Stokes' tips is in for a very rude surprise.

ProfitClicking and Banners Broker, what a winning double that ISN'T.

Another strange co-incidence. I seem to recall Kul was booted out (although he may still be in apparently!) just after the Portugal event. Ian Driscoll gone just after the Ireland event. The India event is coming up in February, I wonder who will be gone after that!

Originally Posted by Beacon

Well there seems to be actual unique individual people attached to the names whether fake or not.

Banners Broker Review
"David Hooker, BB’s new Business Development and Compliance Officer"

Raj Dixit BB’S COO, “Will Banners Broker start to go after these attackers?" The answer was a resounding "Yes!"
lol

BannersBrokerEnFrance.org - Banners Broker En France
seems to be their France person
His schpeel on his site ( I say his but it is piggybacked on a Tucows server)
Doesnt mention and corporate structure or even if he works for BB as an employee.
He only mentions he is in France and his name in an out of the way page.
Editorial: The Meaning Of Success

Seems to be some changes in France as well.

bannersbroker.ORG is now a parked page:



while bannersbroker.COM has a different registrant:

Originally Posted by Beacon

BannersBrokerEnFrance.org - Banners Broker En France
seems to be their France person
His schpeel on his site ( I say his but it is piggybacked on a Tucows server)
Doesnt mention and corporate structure or even if he works for BB as an employee.
He only mentions he is in France and his name in an out of the way page.
Editorial: The Meaning Of Success
...
Admin Name:Al Baker
Admin Street1:4 rue de Jeandeys
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Saint-Seurin de Cadourne
Admin State/Province:Aquitane
Admin Postal Code:33180
Admin Country:FR

Interesting this Yatedo page:

Al Baker - Artistic Solutions and...

Lists Al Baker as having past experience in Syntek Global

Now SG operate out of Salt Lake City Utah. Any dots joining up with Scandanavia? It is an MLM business.
It has a much better web presence and management team.

MLM Internet Explosion

praises ther company product and plan. But 2:36 into the talk he points out you won't make money out of it if you don't know about marketing and work at it. It is much more difficult to find negative data about SG than BB but you can see how the SAlt Lake and MLM connections might have brought Al into the loop.