Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Holy ****....we have another len clements.

Originally Posted by BalancedView

Any more innuendo, or bullshit to throw, from behind your keypad, friend?

Did I get that right? Are you criticising me for using a keyboard? The mind boggles. What would you suggest I use? Smoke signals? Drums? Flags?

Originally Posted by BalancedView

I'm going nowhere!

Good to hear that friend.
We wouldn't want you running away now would we? Not yet anyway, we'll happily wait until the Banners Broker Ponzi collapses for that.

Originally Posted by BalancedView

We haved reduced my labelling by 50 percent (as shill no longer applies).

Good then we agree on something PIMP it is then. (If indeed a single word you posted is true)

Originally Posted by BalancedView

I could quote many references to same, including GUNS, head-shots, etc!

What the hell are you on about?

Originally Posted by BalancedView

The second logo contains two letters, the first one. They are obviously unrelated.
When I joined MENSA, they gave easier comparative questions, Jason.
I have looked you up, on that register, but you are, unfortunately, not listed thereon.

Any update on the things that you hear, on the bus, Jason?
Can anyone else hear them?
The paper that you mentioned (Sun World) loves (library of same) articles on apparitions and healers, Jason.
Perhaps you could get your name in for their next foray into same. The Sun is another option.

Apples and oranges and both fruits, Jason. However, one is citric.....

One can always state that they are a Mensan whilst hiding behind a 'throw-away' moniker. Why don't you state your real name? You may well have looked me up - and I have a list of names who you could be. I don't tend to 'hear' things on buses - and it's very immature to mock psychosis even if the person you're insulting isn't affected by such an illness.

Also, your style of writing doesn't portray that you're very intelligent!

Jason

I'm thinking BV may have attended the same university as Maths/IT genius Chris Smith.

Originally Posted by BalancedView

I don't know Roger, but probably a lovely man.

Roger, Roger, Roger,

the Banners Broker pimp who couldn't lie straight in bed.

guys...I'm going to guess that 'balancedview' is not 'activeone' (aka Roger). Besides the admins here would see the duplicate IP addresses and either warn or ban.

I am glad he/she is back though because I really want an answer to this:

http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b...html#post36074

BalancedView since you are a genius you should be able to review my question and give an obvious defensible reply. Have at it.

Originally Posted by Poyol

One can always state that they are a Mensan whilst hiding behind a 'throw-away' moniker. Why don't you state your real name? You may well have looked me up - and I have a list of names who you could be. I don't tend to 'hear' things on buses - and it's very immature to mock psychosis even if the person you're insulting isn't affected by such an illness.

Also, your style of writing doesn't portray that you're very intelligent!

Jason

We are getting off-thread here, Jason.
Enough of the name-calling and innuendo, please.
My IQ isn't at issue. The basis for your bullshit is!

Have you any news regarding BB?
I do find your aspect on things amusing.

I will, Samuel.R.
Let's engage on it, point by point.

Lets say, starting Monday, on a point, by point basis?

I'll look forward to it.

Originally Posted by BalancedView

We are getting off-thread here, Jason.
Enough of the name-calling and innuendo, please.
My IQ isn't at issue. The basis for your bullshit is!

Have you any news regarding BB?
I do find your aspect on things amusing.

I've not called you any names here - I wouldn't stoop so low.
Bullshit? The basis for my opinion is cold hard facts.

Have I any news? Not as yet - but these things take time.

Jason

Point one, on Monday, Jason?
Point two on Tuesday, etc.
We shall see.
Welcome in, any of you, 64 'watching'.
We might pump up the debate to 8 guests, or perhaps, even 9.

Have a good weekend.
BV.

Originally Posted by BalancedView

I will, Samuel.R.
Let's engage on it, point by point.

Lets say, starting Monday, on a point, by point basis?

I'll look forward to it.

Have patience* Samuel.


*patience the Banners Broker watch word.

Originally Posted by BalancedView

We are getting off-thread here, Jason.
Enough of the name-calling and innuendo, please.
My IQ isn't at issue. The basis for your bullshit is!

Have you any news regarding BB?
I do find your aspect on things amusing.

YOU are the one that felt the need to bring it up. We don't care what your alleged IQ is. Proves nothing other than someone that professes to allegedly be smarter then everyone else is just a huge dumbass working a scam. Just ask len.

Interesting effect of being on here and knowing people involved in BB. Like living in dual universes. Our information is good - the propaganda spoken sadly the same each time. Every excuse under the sun for the company.

Originally Posted by Whip

Holy ****....we have another len clements.

It's always a show with BB flying circus isn't it?..all BB and other ponzi crusaders use always the same vocabulary and ways .Once BB goes belly up,they will all simple jump on another trash and will start to exhibit the same furious and aggressive affiliation...a kind of hooker...scam hookers

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Both copy Apple style icons, in an attempt to made their Ponzi schemes look hi-tech.


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..and red panels are very popular right now:

Originally Posted by BalancedView

I'm bored with you guys.

Have a lovely Christmas.

Don't get too depressed if BB is 'around' for the new year.

Is 'BV the liar' still here. I thought he had enough of us. Keep posting BV the liar, you make our goal so much easier!

So far this week, I have asked 2 questions:

What legal firm represents BB?(noone could answer, making it pretty obvious there is none), and Why is Kul back in the fold?(again, no answer). It makes me wonder if the drones know anything at all...

Anyway, here's a really, really easy one. The drones should have no problem with this...unless of course we have been told another lie:

What university did Chris Smith go to?

Come on guys, this should be reeeeeeaaalllly easy to find out from you uplines...if its not a lie.


Looking forward to some answers....

Originally Posted by Mundorf

..and red panels are very popular right now:

Hey you stole my artwork ;-)

The more i think about it... saying members of banners broker are "affiliates", affiliates of a business, sell the product, they dont just buy in, sit back and withrdaw an ever increasing amount of money every month. That would be an investment... but its not allowed to be called an investment??

You know what this "business" sounds like to me?? a PONZI

Chatting with my mate again today about BB: I have to be careful about what I ask.

The emphasis (strategy) now is to push punters towards to the top end of the panel range (black) by rolling up your panels. Of course, that will mean that it takes approximately 6 months for the panels to finish. That's when the option to purchase traffic boosts (is that right name?) will give you an earlier finish date.

But essentially the imaginary "cash" tied up for longer and longer so the need will be to recruit more and more. He now has about 15 people underneath him. That will be a lot of explaining to do :(

Originally Posted by Poyol

One can always state that they are a Mensan whilst hiding behind a 'throw-away' moniker. Why don't you state your real name? You may well have looked me up - and I have a list of names who you could be. I don't tend to 'hear' things on buses - and it's very immature to mock psychosis even if the person you're insulting isn't affected by such an illness.

Also, your style of writing doesn't portray that you're very intelligent!

Jason

My dog has a higher IQ then BalancedView.....

Originally Posted by BalancedView

I will, Samuel.R.
Let's engage on it, point by point.

Lets say, starting Monday, on a point, by point basis?

I'll look forward to it.

Why wait till Monday?

..now is your chance to clear up all the doubt about BB

Originally Posted by Whip

YOU are the one that felt the need to bring it up. We don't care what your alleged IQ is. Proves nothing other than someone that professes to allegedly be smarter then everyone else is just a huge dumbass working a scam. Just ask len.

Very true Whip.

That another thing with Ponzi schemes.
Lets just say that BV is telling truth about being in MENSA
(TBH it doesn't look to me as if he is unless they have lowered their standards quite considerably)

Anyway, very intelligent people can get sucked into these scams because they can be too smart for their own good.
They can have the mindset that they are far too smart to be tricked or scammed, and thus get scammed just the same as anybody else.

Hi all,

Just joined this forum, but have been reading it with great interest for several days.
As my name suggest, I live in Switzerland. I am British born, have been living in Switzerland for 35 years and I am an accountant, bookkeeper, tax consultant, general dogsbody and administrator to foreign companies. I provide this information to show that I am - hopefully - a mature professional with nearly 40 years of international accounting and finance experience with no particular axe to grind (except for the fact that I am a Coventry City supporter - laughing and scorn not allowed please!) (and that has identified me already to people in the know!)

Had a family member not recently got involved with Banners Brokers, I would not have found this interesting website. Unfortunately, I have a brother who has indeed become involved with BB rcently, and he has been trying to sign up family members. I had not heard of BB, but his explanation rang alarm bells with me almost from the start. Doubling my money every four weeks, even when having no knowledge whatsoever of the business and not actually doing any work except clicking on coloured panels on a computer screen? No bank accounts, just e-wallets and unblievably complicated procedures to extract any real money from the system. Recruiting new people to the scheme to speed up your own winning etc. etc. After over an hour of what was often incomprehensible garbage and full of grave doubts, I told my brother I would look into it and get back to him. I really did not have to spend very much time on the Internet to confirm my worst fears, despite the incredible number of sites full of people saying how great it was and the money they were making hand over fist.
As I later wrote to my brother; 25 years ago I had a look into Scientology (not ALL bad and some good technology there if you can pick the good from the bad and know how to say NO and really mean it!), and the almost religious fervour with which BB attack any detractors, and their fanatical belief in any rubbish that the company line gives them without applying any common sense or arms-length thinking to is typical of a cult mentality.
As you might imagine from what I have written to date, I informed my brother that in my opinion this is so obviously an out and out scam that he is either fooling himself or just doesn't care as long as he makes money. He is not talking to me any longer.
I might have left it at that had he not also been trying to pull other family members into the plot, but he is unfortunately going after family to improve his "investment" position.

One thing that my brother continuously brought up in e-mails and telephone conversations is the fact that this business has been going for several years and that no government or regulatory authority has issued any notices about BB or gone after BB in any way, so how can it be an illegal scam? This is very difficult to answer, even though we all know that governments are somewhere between useless and "after the horse has bolted" when it comes to scams. How many times did people complain to the SEC about Madoff and they did nothing until way too late?
I decided to call the Securities Exchange Commision, and I spoke to them a couple of hours ago, I called their Division of Enforcement (001 202 551 4500) and spoke to a very helpful gentleman (I will not give out names on here - too many nasties abound). He took down details and told me he would put them on record. He also stated that BB was not something that they had come accross yet, but that BB are not dealing with securities and therefore would not be under the SEC anyway. He did however tell me that BB were not registered anywhere in the USA. He suggested that, as my brother was in the UK, I should get in touch with the Finacial Services Authority (FAS) in the UK, and gave me their telpehone number (0044 20 766 1000).
I called them about an hour ago and spoke to another very helpful gentleman. He took down all the information I was able to give him. He told me that I should inform my family members that Banner Brokers ARE NOT AUTHORISED BY THE FSA!
I told him that, based on the information that I have available, I believe that BB are a scam and a Ponzi scheme and that I fear for my brother and any other family members he drags in. The gentleman, while naturally having to be non-commital, informed me that it sounded very suspicious indeed, and that he was immediately posting the information up to his superiors for further investigation. He asked me if I had any other evidence that I could provide the FSA with. I had in all honesty to tell him that I have no concrete evidence beyond common sense and sites like yours on the Internet. He accepted that, confirmed that he is passing this on to his superiors, and provided me with a case number. I am prepared to pass on that case number to certain persons if they feel they can provide better insight or evidence to the FSA than I have been able to. I will however only pass it on privately and to those few individuals I think I can trust, and certainly not to the BB shills all over the Internet.

As I had in all honesty to admit to the FSA; I have no actual evidence of a scam. But common sense must tell anyone involved that it is a scam and would not want their family or any other innocents caught up in such immoral and shabby business practices.
Sorry, this first post has rambled on a bit.
Anyway, if you feel you might be able to add to what I have given to the FSA, please private message me for the case number.

Originally Posted by SwissSkyBlue

Hi all,

Just joined this forum, but have been reading it with great interest for several days.
As my name suggest, I live in Switzerland. I am British born, have been living in Switzerland for 35 years and I am an accountant, bookkeeper, tax consultant, general dogsbody and administrator to foreign companies. I provide this information to show that I am - hopefully - a mature professional with nearly 40 years of international accounting and finance experience with no particular axe to grind (except for the fact that I am a Coventry City supporter - laughing and scorn not allowed please!) (and that has identified me already to people in the know!) .....

Anyway, if you feel you might be able to add to what I have given to the FSA, please private message me for the case number.

Hi and welcome to realscam. I've shortened your post for which I apologise.

It is very difficult to get any joy out of the FSA in the UK as, unless it is dealing with a financial product, they really don't want to know. However that is my experience when I phoned up a while ago with the same kind of question. I think others on here have had a similar experience and you may find that you are pushed towards Actionfraud which is the police.

That really is the frustration of it. You have named what is happening correctly and, unfortunately, the "believers" will not hear anything against what they think to be the best thing since sliced bread. Yes, it has all the hallmarks of a cult as well :(

Stick with us and you'll see what else we can do to provide hard evidence to support us. Sadly, the human brain has a huge ability to ignore things it doesn't want to see, especially logic or truth.

Nobody would gainsay your experience - the CC supporting maybe slightly dodgy - and I am joking about that!!

Hiya, SwissSkyBlue, and welcome to REALSCAM.com

Originally Posted by SwissSkyBlue

One thing that my brother continuously brought up in e-mails and telephone conversations is the fact that this business has been going for several years

While I obviously have no "proof" based on what I've observed over time, let me tell you what I would do if I was going to run a HYIP ponzi

I would register a business name, a domain and a website FIRST, before I even started planning things.

In fact, if I was a serial HYIP ponzi fraudster, I'd probably register 20 or 30 domains and "park" them on a HYIP ponzi friendly webhosts server.

That way, by the time I had completed the planning phase and got all my ducks in a row, they would all have been "registered" for months, if not years.

Then, whenever I was challenged, I would be able to truthfully point out my HYIP ponzi "business" had been in existence for years.

Not that I'm saying anything like that has happened with Banners Broker of course, it being such a well know multi squillion dollar internationally renowned advertising broker.