Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by activeone

In my view it's not a Ponzi until is it proven without a doubt it's a Ponzi, that's the financials and mechanics are revealed.
Mind you, if things start grinding to a halt (panels taking longer and longer and longer to cap, payout issues escalating, and a continued increase in the number of people reporting problems), then obviously something ain't right.

Just curious, but if someone pulls out a handgun and shoots someone else in the head, does the guy with the bullet in the cranium not assume room temperature until after a jury convicts the first guy of murder? How about if he's aquitted? Does the victim get to stay alive? By your way of thinking, maybe Nicole Brown Simpson isn't really dead...

just sayin'

I bet his fiance of three years is wondering why she can't make Steve Vowles an honest man. I think I can see why...

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Not sure that I would want to use a 'wealth creation' company that employs a Banners Broker fanboi as its Business Development Manager.

Originally Posted by activeone

In MY view it's not a Ponzi until is it proven without a doubt it's a Ponzi,

Which won't happen unless the law steps in and prosecutes them.

Even when Banners Broker collapses and disappears, the "activeone" type shills will still be saying there's no "proof" and Banners Broker simply closed like a squillion other businesses affected by the global recession.

Originally Posted by amathyst87

There's no apparently about it. She did get her money back, though the actual time was closer to 5 months. This is average for most affiliates. That's what it took me to get my money back.

I don't mean to sound argumentative so I apologise if I'm coming off so.

It is quite feasible that this person did get their money back relatively quickly. It can be done, particularly if you are a big recruiter. Yellow sales credits mean you can activate lots of the quicker panels. You could not have done that on TP only.

That said, s I have mentioned several times, payout does not stop something being a ponzi scheme. Note the point above about being a heavy recruiter. That is where the money comes from.

Originally Posted by Theseus

"They moved the engine"?

What with, an engine hoist?

You would think with all the people in the motor trade they could get an engine up and running constantly!

Anyone who wants to know how HYIP ponzis like Banners Broker REALLY work only has to read what the receiver for Zeek Rewards, Ken Bell has to say:

Zeek records, according to letters from Bell cited by the trio, suggest Sorrells received $945,539 from Zeek while paying in only $1,695. Dave Kettner received $537,577.95 while paying in only $1,378, and Mary Kettner received $465,866.67 while paying in only $1,495.

Still think putting more into a HYIP ponzi ensures bigger payouts ???

Originally Posted by Theseus

"Banners Broker don't guarantee to double your money"

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Yeah, okay....

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Had an extremely big chuckle that. 'Twice your money' but they didn't say doubling!

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

It is quite feasible that this person did get their money back relatively quickly. It can be done, particularly if you are a big recruiter. Yellow sales credits mean you can activate lots of the quicker panels. You could not have done that on TP only.

That said, s I have mentioned several times, payout does not stop something being a ponzi scheme. Note the point above about being a heavy recruiter. That is where the money comes from.

The basic way Banners Broker works means that you will get your money back (and a bit more) in around 5 months without traffic packs or sales credits. If you want to activate your panels again you have to have people under you or buy traffic packs.

Hey, you've had your money back, why wouldn't you recruit people and get traffic packs.

That last paragraph illustrates exactly how they get people hooked in.

The money, as many people have pointed out, exists, its just never been near an advertising panel in its life! The problem is, the money will start to dry up,pay outs will take longer and innocent people who think they were just helping others by referring look like criminals.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

It's funny.

A dress appears on the catwalk in Milan and within 48 hours copies are appearing in every country in the world.

A TV show airs in the USA one night and within 24 hours it has been "fast tracked" and is shown in Australia.

Yet, Banners Broker comes up with a "new, revolutionary" multi billion dollar way of advertising on the internet, and here we are 2 years later and NOBODY has picked up on it and is doing the same thing.

Amazing.

This will probably be used by the shills to explain why BB never reveals even the most trivial information about their "operations" - "it's to stop people copying us".

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Does anyone know why it's so easy to put up with the rantings of HYIP ponzi shills and pimps of the BalancedView aka Roger Stockburger type ???


REAL people being ripped off blind by the "BalancedViews" of the HYIP ponzi world.

NOBODY, and, I do mean NOBODY deserves to be stolen from like that. No matter how "stupid" or "deserving" or "gullible" Roger "BalancedView" Stockburger and his criminal associates may view the victims of their efforts.

On top of which NOBODY, no matter how much of a smartass he or she may be, has the right to take advantage of a fellow human like BalancedView Stockburger and his thieving Banners Broker mates are doing daily,

NOBODY.

I don't know Roger, but probably a lovely man.
It's disappointing, when you resort to meaningless comparisons and baseless name-calling!

Originally Posted by Dreamstealer

Hi BV, Sorry i'm not great at numbers, can you help me out? Is the 265,000 BB members? and presumably the 5 are the active people on this forum? That being the case surely the correct comparison would be the 265,000 against the many millions that have come into contact with BB and either recognise it as the sack of s**t is is or are too ethical to engage in a fraudulent ponzi. Doesn't this make you one of the minority? I generally categorise BB people into innocent newbies( first few months), complete morons or crooks. Only guessing but have you been in BB for some time now?

There are nine-million bicycles in Beiging...

If I represent a minority, within the global population, that's fine. But, perhaps you could clarify to me, If 265,000 to five is your current ratio, and you are one of the five, what class of a minority, within a minority, are you?

Also, to clarify a point, I have not recruited anyone to date, hence I don't fall in the 'pimp' or 'shill' category.
If, however, BB is going as good as ever in the new year, I will allow a few of my friends (that are tracking my progress to date) to throw some loose change at it, as they would like to emulate my returns, and partake of the fun in doing so.

Have a happy and peaceful Christmas, and do phone the Samaritans if you feel as lonely as you project yourselves herein. Also, promoting suicide herein, could have effect on the real world, and you should be aware of that. There is always hope, and when you try to kill all the greater good in life, with eternal nit-picking and pessimism, it lowers the tone, defeats the argument, and projects a negative connotation that actually reduces the self-image further.

May God grant you peace and harmony in your lives, as you are a currently a minority within a minority.

Originally Posted by BalancedView

There are nine-million bicycles in Beiging...

If I represent a minority, within the global population, that's fine. But, perhaps you could clarify to me, If 265,000 to five is your current ratio, and you are one of the five, what class of a minority, within a minority, are you?

Also, to clarify a point, I have not recruited anyone to date, hence I don't fall in the 'pimp' or 'shill' category.
If, however, BB is going as good as ever in the new year, I will allow a few of my friends (that are tracking my progress to date) to throw some loose change at it, as they would like to emulate my returns, and partake of the fun in doing so.

Have a happy and peaceful Christmas, and do phone the Samaritans if you feel as lonely as you project yourselves herein. Also, promoting suicide herein, could have effect on the real world, and you should be aware of that. There is always hope, and when you try to kill all the greater good in life, with eternal nit-picking and pessimism, it lowers the tone, defeats the argument, and projects a negative connotation that actually reduces the self-image further.

May God grant you peace and harmony in your lives, as you are a currently a minority within a minority.

Which is Rogers' very long winded way of saying:

"I don't give a damn about the fact I'm profiting from other peoples' misfortune by participating in a HYIP ponzi scam.

As long as "I get mine" it's OK with me"

Originally Posted by BalancedView

There are nine-million bicycles in Beiging...

If I represent a minority, within the global population, that's fine. But, perhaps you could clarify to me, If 265,000 to five is your current ratio, and you are one of the five, what class of a minority, within a minority, are you?

Also, to clarify a point, I have not recruited anyone to date, hence I don't fall in the 'pimp' or 'shill' category.
If, however, BB is going as good as ever in the new year, I will allow a few of my friends (that are tracking my progress to date) to throw some loose change at it, as they would like to emulate my returns, and partake of the fun in doing so.

Have a happy and peaceful Christmas, and do phone the Samaritans if you feel as lonely as you project yourselves herein. Also, promoting suicide herein, could have effect on the real world, and you should be aware of that. There is always hope, and when you try to kill all the greater good in life, with eternal nit-picking and pessimism, it lowers the tone, defeats the argument, and projects a negative connotation that actually reduces the self-image further.

May God grant you peace and harmony in your lives, as you are a currently a minority within a minority.

That's the biggest pile of tripe I've seen written on this thread by you, BV.
BalancedView, the Sunday World - how many people does that class as?
Numerous blogs on the Internet being critics too - I think you'll find it's quite a few more than five.

Jason

Originally Posted by BalancedView

I don't know Roger, but probably a lovely man.
It's disappointing, when you resort to meaningless comparisons and baseless name-calling!

I'm sure Roger is really just a sad Walter Mitty-type character who feels the need to adopt numerous online persona.

Unfortunately he's not the sharpest tool in the box and as a result tends to make the same boasts, claims and grammatical errors regardless of which character he is claiming to be that particular day.

Having said that, the amusement his antics have caused are well worth humouring him for,even if, at the end of the day you he is a scheming lowlife con artist...

Don't you just love BV's long goodbyes.

You are here promoting/defending Banners Broker that makes you a PIMP.

Who was promoting suicides? Shall we just ignore the facts that Ponzi schemes such as Banners Broker have caused suicides in the past? You would prefer that wouldn't you? Puts a bit of a downer on your Ponzi scheme doesn't it.

The greater good? Does that include scamming your friends & family?

Originally Posted by BalancedView

May God grant you peace and harmony in your lives, as you are a currently a minority within a minority.

Remember as some Banners Broker Shills or Pimps might say, Apple was started by just two guys.

Originally Posted by Dreamstealer

This will probably be used by the shills to explain why BB never reveals even the most trivial information about their "operations" - "it's to stop people copying us".

You might be right. The shorthand for this classic HYIP dodge is the word "proprietary." Sometimes scammers make a joke of it by saying, "If I told you, I'd have to kill you."

Zeek used the "proprietary" dodge. It "worked" for a while but sort of lost its luster when reporters, photographers and videographers showed up in Lexington to note the sudden presence in town of federal agents and to record the collapse for posterity.

The short story is that "proprietary" has a shorter shelf life in these post-Madoff, post AdSurfDaily days.

See photo here of the day Lexington became North Carolina's Quincy, Fla:

The North Carolina Attorney General's office, the Secret Service and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission are investigating Lexington, N.C.-based Rex Venture Group, which operates zeekler.com, a penny auction website, and zeekrewards.com. | Th

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Originally Posted by PPBlog

See photo here of the day Lexington became North Carolina's Quincy, Fla:

The North Carolina Attorney General's office, the Secret Service and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission are investigating Lexington, N.C.-based Rex Venture Group, which operates zeekler.com, a penny auction website, and zeekrewards.com. | Th

PPBlog

I just love that photo.....Without doubt that is the winner for photo of the year 2012 award......

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Excuse the poor quality image - however - does anyone see the similarities between both logos?
Of course it's a coincidence - I just found it slightly amusing.

Jason

Did you know that almost all comedies are inspired by tragic and measly situations?The gold statement on MMG forum - servant in panic...."Any STP payouts lately? Today i made my very first withdrawal request. Keep my fingers crossed... " A multimillion $ global advertising company member needs fingers crossed while waiting hard eraned money ...he is scammed,he knows it and he is aware crossing fingers is all the hard work he will ever do...what if he knew he is better comedian then Benny Hill?

Originally Posted by Poyol

Excuse the poor quality image - however - does anyone see the similarities between both logos?
Of course it's a coincidence - I just found it slightly amusing.
bbzeeklogos.jpg
Jason

Both copy Apple style icons, in an attempt to made their Ponzi schemes look hi-tech.


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Originally Posted by okosh

I just love that photo.....Without doubt that is the winner for photo of the year 2012 award......

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Don't you just love BV's long goodbyes.
I'm going nowhere!

You are here promoting/defending Banners Broker that makes you a PIMP.
We haved reduced my labelling by 50 percent (as shill no longer applies).

Who was promoting suicides? Shall we just ignore the facts that Ponzi schemes such as Banners Broker have caused suicides in the past? You would prefer that wouldn't you? Puts a bit of a downer on your Ponzi scheme doesn't it.
I could quote many references to same, including GUNS, head-shots, etc!
The greater good? Does that include scamming your friends & family?

The use of the word 'scamming', is your inventive vocabulary at play here. I do have friends, and family, however, and we do enjoy life, on the whole.

Any more innuendo, or bullshit to throw, from behind your keypad, friend?

Originally Posted by BalancedView

Any more innuendo, or bullshit to throw, from behind your keypad, friend?

Hopefully just enough to keep you around long enough for us to enjoy singing you the "I told ya so" song

Not much chance of that happening, though.

You'll be long gone and on to the next big thing "opportunity" by then.

Originally Posted by Poyol

bbzeeklogos.jpg

Excuse the poor quality image - however - does anyone see the similarities between both logos?
Of course it's a coincidence - I just found it slightly amusing.

Jason

The second logo contains two letters, the first one. They are obviously unrelated.
When I joined MENSA, they gave easier comparative questions, Jason.
I have looked you up, on that register, but you are, unfortunately, not listed thereon.

Any update on the things that you hear, on the bus, Jason?
Can anyone else hear them?
The paper that you mentioned (Sun World) loves (library of same) articles on apparitions and healers, Jason.
Perhaps you could get your name in for their next foray into same. The Sun is another option.

Apples and oranges and both fruits, Jason. However, one is citric.....