Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by littleroundman

@Dreamstealer:

There is no "ONE" way to present a message.

There are no catch all ways of presenting any message/s.

We all have different learning styles, different levels of "experience" and different comprehension abilities.

What's logical and obvious to a left brain oriented mathematician can be completely obscure and illogical to right brain oriented artist.

Let's not get into having to make other member/posters "wrong" in order to make ourselves "right"

My point EXACTLY littleroundman. Glad we agree- i was just tired of people having a pop at Phil's very reasonable arguments.

Anyway i'm off to do a bit of work. keep up the good work everyone.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

So let me get this straight. If it is common practice that companies doen't let you use their company name as part of your domain, so why did it take these geniuses 2 years to figure this out? I mean these are the smartest people on the planet.

But then we can't forget this launched as a Straightline Cycler Doubler program that magically morphed into and advertising program when the doubler wasn't working. Wonder what the story will change to next?

Well, don't tell everyone.... but I'm sure I've read on one of the blogs that there is a magic fairy who comes into the BB offices late at night and this fairy is the one who is to blame for all the technical hitches like panels not moving fast enough, money being difficult to with draw, tickets for help being lost and so on.

I think this fairy has been caught associating with some "trolls" that she met on the internet. Apparently, these trolls keep on debunking the myths that this is a "real business" so the fairy now has to rejig the whole flaming thing in response to all the arguments that are being thrown up. So she's getting really tired and rather fed up with it all.... But shhhhhhh.... don't breathe a word - I didn't tell you this ok?

Hello from the bottom of the world in New Zealand :-) have been following this forum for weeks now, seems banners broker has recently arrived here and there are many 'believers' is the term used most often. Have enjoyed all the research from regular members and have done some myself. Finally found something specific to NZ website blog is mybannersbrokerjourney.blogspot.co.nz. Very interesting that the exact same lines are used here in NZ (at presentations not the web blog mentioned) as those in the videos etc. I have viewed online from the states, irelend, uk etc........blah blah google are greedy and bb shares ....blah blah "mastercard endorses"......blah blah internet traffic, impressions....."oh no u don't have to understand all that complicated internet stuff"....and my personal favourite "what would you say if I said to you that I can put 3,000 dollars away in my back pocket and in X number weeks I will give you back double?" ?really?. Really? a multi million dollar company? Frustrating, like banging your head against a brick wall kind of frustrating, that 'believers' have an answer or a website for every critique and that nothing can be done to put a stop to it...I decided to join and post because of this and would appreciate any feedback on the site mentioned and to the regular members any media contacts in NZ would be a hit as nothing on bb has surfaced here yet...any advice on action?
Thanks for this forum, littleroundman? i think you started this, of all the blah blah i found on the net, your forum seemed the most sensible intelligent (with the exception of a few supporters) discussion on this...keep it up

"The sorts of things that are absolutely not allowed are things like showing pictures of the BB pre-paid card, using the BB logo in any way, guaranteeing people to 'double their money', calling this an 'investment'."

this on the blog spot site.....why is "showing pictures of the bb pre-paid card"...."absolutely not allowed"......is it because if you email mastercard a copy (as i did) the will tell you mastercard has not heard of bb? certainly not the nz/australasian branch

HI Joe, do you have any ideas for those in NZ wanting to have a go at saving some 'believers' from themselves, although some people don't want to listen, I would love to know how/who looks at these 'businesses' and takes action?

Welcome to RealScam, Kiwi!

Sad to hear that it's reached NZ too, I know it's over in Aus at the moment.
I for one don't have any media contacts over there - but I sure can help find you some.
If you read my blog you can point your friends in the direction of there to read a shortened version of what's been said here.
There's not as much research on my blog yet, so make sure they sign up here too!

The more media attention we give Banners Broker - the more people will be critics.

Jason

Originally Posted by kiwi chick nz

HI Joe, do you have any ideas for those in NZ wanting to have a go at saving some 'believers' from themselves, although some people don't want to listen, I would love to know how/who looks at these 'businesses' and takes action?

Kiwi, New Zealand Police E-crime Lab | New Zealand Police
Would be the link for you to contact in regards to Banners Broker.

Jason

The wording of this seems awfully familiar....

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Originally Posted by Theseus

The wording of this seems awfully familiar....

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Tbog.net that is.
I had a look at that yesterday.
I was trying to find some Whois history to see who's owned it.
If you go to the Web Archive though it looks quite interesting in the past.

Jason

I wonder what outages/policy changes will come from BB today in their relentless drive to seek out new ways to cling onto affiliates cash?

Hi Jason, throughout the 150 odd pages I have been reading, I remember some of yours. Am suitably impressed you came up with the e-crime lab....so quickly too...commerce commission here suggested I go to them.....ended up speaking to police but not specific to the e-crime lab over 2 weeks ago now, I didn't join at all, I only know some 'believers' so he was a bit vague with me because I personally don't have a complaint, card, contact names etc.....I was merely trying to find a CREDIBLE SOURCE to help discourage anymore people i know.......so how (without personally implicating friends and their friends) can this Raj and Chris etc etc I have been reading about continue to generate 'believers' all the way down here.......is it really a waiting game
Was it you Jason during the media release parts of this forum that talked about journalists writing about this? Can this be an effective way to curb people's enthusiasm, the new t & c prevent anyone from complaining to police surely?

sorry guys (bit slow typing) am just reading all your posts thanks heaps

Originally Posted by kiwi chick nz

Hi Jason, throughout the 150 odd pages I have been reading, I remember some of yours. Am suitably impressed you came up with the e-crime lab....so quickly too...commerce commission here suggested I go to them.....ended up speaking to police but not specific to the e-crime lab over 2 weeks ago now, I didn't join at all, I only know some 'believers' so he was a bit vague with me because I personally don't have a complaint, card, contact names etc.....I was merely trying to find a CREDIBLE SOURCE to help discourage anymore people i know.......so how (without personally implicating friends and their friends) can this Raj and Chris etc etc I have been reading about continue to generate 'believers' all the way down here.......is it really a waiting game
Was it you Jason during the media release parts of this forum that talked about journalists writing about this? Can this be an effective way to curb people's enthusiasm, the new t & c prevent anyone from complaining to police surely?

I'm happy to be remembered!
It took a few seconds to find out a relevant place The Department of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Consumer Affairs will be able to help you with this issue too.

I am the Jason that was in the newspapers - trying to get more media attention for Banners Broker - but it's certainly not easy!

Jason

Yes Jason very sad that NZ involved too, unfortunately the 'believers' I know will not join here they are not prepared to let 1 person's opinion (mine) override the 260,000 bb members surely one of them would have something neg to say, and where is the proof it's not, they have seen the mastercard work in the money machine, mastercard endorses it, so no problem.....or as we say here in NZ "sweet as"
Kiwi

It's not about an opinion - ask them to do their own research - their own due diligence they'll come up with facts and figures that just don't quite make sense.

Jason

Originally Posted by kiwi chick nz

"The sorts of things that are absolutely not allowed are things like showing pictures of the BB pre-paid card, using the BB logo in any way, guaranteeing people to 'double their money', calling this an 'investment'."

this on the blog spot site.....why is "showing pictures of the bb pre-paid card"...."absolutely not allowed"......is it because if you email mastercard a copy (as i did) the will tell you mastercard has not heard of bb? certainly not the nz/australasian branch

Hi kiwi chick nz and welcome to realscam

The terms and conditions that are imposed on BB members are mainly designed to stop anyone finding out any information that is not passed down by those higher up the chain.

You will find that members are encouraged only to ask information from their upline. So, for example, if you said hey I found this really good website that actually shows BB is a scam/ponzi, what you have found will be sneered at and you will be told that the person who runs that site (whatever) is a hater, got thrown out of BB for bad behaviour, stealing etc. This has happened to more than one person on here when they have tried to enlighten others. I personally have tried to extract a mate of mine from BB and all I got back was the company line. It really does smack of cult like behaviour and, sadly, the $ signs blind most people as to what is going on.

Stick around here and you'll see what we mean. Don't mind the occasional differences of opinion between realscam members. Our hearts are in the right place :)

I am a post behind you, Have contacted ministry consumer affairs - email response said to contact econsumer.gov - Your site for cross-border complaints. I replied saying this was happening in NZ but have not had a response. I am totally impressed by your search skills, you are coming up with the same places I have tried to alert.....the general response thus far (after about 5 weeks of research and reading realscam and whirlpool forums) from the agencies you have mentioned seems to be 'oh yeah that def sounds like a pyramid scheme but we dont do anything....honestly....the commerce commission here enforces our 'fair trading act' and they 'investigated' bb 10 days later phoned to say 'definatley pyramid' recommend you call e-crime.....so without being a 'narc' (probably a real kiwi term it means to hand in your friends or be the one to call the police on others without being a victim) not something I really want to do at this stage...I do believe tat my friend really does believe this is a genuine business (lol, not in breach of her t & c's) I just wish an 'authority' of some sort would take more interest.....any way I am keen on the media idea though...perhaps that might help the after affects

Welcome kiwi chick

It's worthwhile informing the authorities as Jason suggested, but if they are anything like the UK authorities, I wouldn't hold your breath for any response or action taken on these scammers, as in the big scheme of things Banners Broker are pretty small fry.
Like Jason says try to get the media involved.



Anyway who wants a laugh?

Come and see how it's done presented by Ireland's top man Mr McCarthey

https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/529312486

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What can I say Jason?, you would think so wouldn't you.....we're obviously a trusting bunch down here..... friends trust the friend that offered them this amazing opportunity......mastercard is on the bb card its a brand they recognise....they assured that there are always jealous people or non-believers and how they would kick themselves... etc. etc. gosh I could go on hence the 'brick wall of frustration' analogy earlier, I promised myself after trying to convert believers to give up and leave them to it but thanks to the member with 'evil only prevails when good people do nothing' or similar, I can't leave it alone.......ence reading the entire 150 odd pages

and thank you to those welcoming me...I couldn't resist offering my 2 cents worth.....feel i deserve to after all the effort of members up to date regular postings I enjoyed
Kiwi

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Welcome kiwi chick

Anyway who wants a laugh?

Come and see how it's done presented by Ireland's top man Mr McCarthey

https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/529312486

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Don't you just love it when people (don't) spell check stuff they put out on the internet, especially on forms ;)

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Come and see how it's done presented by Ireland's top man Mr McCarthey[/SIZE][/COLOR]

https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/529312486

I wonder if Citrix have heard about Banners Broker yet.

I'm in the Webinar - let's pose some interesting questions.

Jason

Originally Posted by Hypanor

I wonder if Citrix have heard about Banners Broker yet.

I doubt it - or GotoWebinar - wouldn't it be good if the Webinar was pulled halfway through.

Jason

Originally Posted by Theseus

I wonder what outages/policy changes will come from BB today in their relentless drive to seek out new ways to cling onto affiliates cash?

Some jiggery-pokery going on with panels at the moment??

Interesting: front screen of website of BB seems rather bare and sad.

Twitter... same old, same old

Facebook: BB account now updated to business - can someone explain what that means?

I used my real name and was kicked from the webinar - hm.

Jason