Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Anyone know why BB is using a free "for personal or hobbyist use" advertising platform linkage with OpenX?

ox-d.bannersbroker.com

Free ad server and ad management tools for publishers | OpenX

Originally Posted by samuel.r

Anyone know why BB is using a free "for personal or hobbyist use" advertising platform linkage with OpenX?

ox-d.bannersbroker.com

Free ad server and ad management tools for publishers | OpenX

Nice find, Sam.
Contacted OpenX?

Jason

Yes, I politely asked them how they felt about being added to our roster of enablers. Everyone gets a fair chance to think things over...

edit: credit, if we are keeping score, goes to Jools on this one - she sent me down the path to unlayer the new nifty advertising that recently showed up on the choice network sites. It was a hop, skip and short jump to OpenX from there ;-)

Originally Posted by Poyol

Exactly, not the same guy - yet there are links.

What do you make of it?

Jason

Originally Posted by Hypanor

They're family somehow. Raj is listed as a friend of Rajkumar.
Raj's facebook page http://www.facebook.com/therajivdixit

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Not quite, you posted Rajkumars facebook.

What link are you trying to establish? They are both Adventists, Rajkumar is a pastor in Maryland, and Raj attended an Adventist Uni in Texas.
Presumably cousins or something. Lets not drag family into this unnecessarily.

Originally Posted by Poyol

http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b...html#post31883

Gloria and Raj are the directors of Stellar Point. So, that family connection is allowed.
Rajkumar has a similar name - I was asking for opinions.

Jason

I agree with Hyp, probably cousins, but I don't see any link between Rajkumar and Stellar/BB other than by blood, so no point in going any further down that line.

Out of interest, according to Raj's ex-brother-in-law Gloria is his common-law wife, do we have a surname/maiden name for her? A PM will do if anyone has it...

Originally Posted by samuel.r

Yes, I politely asked them how they felt about being added to our roster of enablers. Everyone gets a fair chance to think things over...

Do you have instantpresenter.com on your list?

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

To be honest it is this kind of comment that annoys me here sometimes. It may be straightforward and to the point but adds absolutely nothing to the issue.

I believe Banners Broker is a scam as much as you do; however, when commenting I feel it more appropriate to treat it as if it is were genuine business. That way you can debunk the factors that assumption is based on.

And I find it misleading to the innocent people researching that don't know it's not a 'business'.
If it had been pointed out before you joined that it was a blatant scam, you would have still joined?
Clearly you did join because you were led to believe it was a legitimate business.

Originally Posted by Whip

And I find it misleading to the innocent people researching that don't know it's not a 'business'.
If it had been pointed out before you joined that it was a blatant scam, you would have still joined?
Clearly you did join because you were led to believe it was a legitimate business.

Let's simmer the bickering for a moment - or maybe longer.

J

Originally Posted by Poyol

Let's simmer the bickering for a moment - or maybe longer.

J

Ignore the point all you want. It's still the point.
Why would we keep pretending this is a legitimate business, especially you two that have been ripped off, if you are trying to warn other people and try to keep them from losing?
I mean, that is your stated goal right in this very thread isn't it?

Whip,

There are ways to go about things.
Nobody is pretending it's a real business - people are hypothetically treating it like a real business to point out the real-life differences.

There is no need to be so pugnacious about the matter.

Jason

I don't believe in God.
But when debating God I say things like:

"If God were real he'd me down where I stand."

As opposed to:

"God isn't real. God isn't real. God isn't real."

Jason

Don't know where that is going but God is real.

Bannersbroker is not a business but if it helps to call it that in the forums, do use what means work.

Originally Posted by scratchycat

Don't know where that is going but God is real.

Bannersbroker is not a business but if it helps to call it that in the forums, do use what means work.

Scratchy,

Probably one reason why we don't have religious debates but there is no 100% evidence for or against God!

Jason

Originally Posted by samuel.r

Anyone know why BB is using a free "for personal or hobbyist use" advertising platform linkage with OpenX?

ox-d.bannersbroker.com

Free ad server and ad management tools for publishers | OpenX

Hands up, I know nothing about this at all: way too technical for me. All I will say is that the website looks extremely professional, clearly signposted etc etc etc. Clearly people who know what they are doing ;)

Maybe somebody is doing some homework???

well they must have enough money by now, (even from the money stolen from all those blocked accounts) to hire a professional. It has always amazed me how amateurish their websites and banners are. Even their main website is down as often as it is up. And they try to compare themselves to google lol. I think Paul McCarthy must be the webmaster up untill now.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Damm! these computer glitches causing more problems.
So the Banners Broker IT bods did some maintenance & lost "some" files
Idiots.

Where was the IT genius Chris Smith when this was happening?


Attachment 2260

My guess is that these "lost files" are a convenience. To get them over the Xmas period, with an alibi for not paying out.

Banners Broker Review : More Money Review

"Ok, here’s the truth about Banners Broker. I have made 10k since March 2012 with a £850 investment. I can prove this with Bank statements etc. I am so confident with Banners Broker that I have personally financed all my team members so they are making money with no investment. If you want proof, more information or anything else Banners Broker email me ** Deleted by mod – don’t post personal email addresses here. If anyone wants to contact you they can contact the office and we will put you in touch**. At the end of the day….. If you are not putting your own money in then you are not risking anything."

I'm just going to post a reply on that thread, LOL!

Originally Posted by Jerrygo

My guess is that these "lost files" are a convenience. To get them over the Xmas period, with an alibi for not paying out.

Jerrygo.... you will be delighted to learn that they've also purged the ticket system for being helped as well. So you have to resubmit... oh what the heck, here are the actual words!

"Due to the number of duplicate tickets in our system, all unanswered tickets older than 14 days have been purged from the system. We apologize for the inconvenience and delay this may have caused you. If your ticket has not been resolved and you do not have a ticket submitted in the system already, please submit a new support ticket. Moving forward, please remember to respond to your existing tickets for any ongoing issues rather than opening new ones, as this will prevent delays in handling issues which may already have been resolved in another ticket, and allow us to process unsolved tickets as soon as possible."

I hope you've got that clear? For some strange reason it reminds me of this:

Marx Brothers - The Contract Scene - Chico and Groucho - YouTube

Hope that'll put a smile on your face :)

Here's my reply:

"craigasav, that’s nothing. I’ve made £53,677 since August 3rd with a $25 investment. I can prove this with bank statements AND a certified letter from my accountant. What’s more, I personally financed every single member of my village, and now they’re all on track to collect over £50,000 each, too, with no investment on their part.

If you want proof, come down to **Deleted by mod – don’t post personal villages** and ask any of the locals."

Originally Posted by Alkibone

Here's my reply:

"craigasav, that’s nothing. I’ve made £53,677 since August 3rd with a $25 investment. I can prove this with bank statements AND a certified letter from my accountant. What’s more, I personally financed every single member of my village, and now they’re all on track to collect over £50,000 each, too, with no investment on their part.

If you want proof, come down to **Deleted by mod – don’t post personal villages** and ask any of the locals."

Is that it? I've made £12,000,000 since August with a $100 investment - I asked for Banners Broker not to mention me as I was worried about all the people wanting money.

If you want proof ask my bank!

There are fools on this thread speaking out of their backsides, moaning about bb being a ponzi scheme, yet they have no evidence to back their spiteful statements. Bannersbroker is a business opportunity, you buy and you sell impressions, its the simplest of business models "Buy in bulk and sell on in smaller quantities with a markup" hey presto you make a profit. Furthermore the level of profit is simple for every $20 dollars you spend buying the panels and the traffic you make $7.50 this equates to 37.5 % profit margin. This is typical throughout the business world so why do you surface scratchers think it is an unreasonably high level of profit?. The amount of profit greedy google have made in 14 years has shot them into the history books, all they ever sold were impressions and that's what bannersbroker affiliates are buying and selling. Bannersbroker buy the impressions in bulk from the blind network ad exchange through on e of the brokers that controls the marketplace, and then sell the afiiliates smaller units of impressions through the same mechanism. The process of buying in bulk and reselling in smaller units makes money. Furthermore why is affiliate marketing a crime when bannersbroker do it but not when google, amazon, ebay, facebook and so many other top internet companies do it. Bannersbroker ask their affiliates to refer new people so that their network of affiliates grows, making them bigger and stronger in the marketplace of online advertising. If you have concrete evidence that bannersbroker is a ponzi scheme then you had better show this, otherwise the legal team at bannersbroker will be summoning you to court for scandalising a ligitimate business. Good luck in court to all of you surface scratching liars.

Wow defender...why didn't you speak earlier?? The whole mystery has been solved.

ah the same old vague nonsense. Go and read some of posts on this thread to explain why it is a ponzi. And as for comparing bb to google, amazon, ebay, facebook . Give us a break. None of those companies would block accounts and steal the money within those accounts. And they actually have a verifiable product. And they can keep their websites running...... bb and google lol. Chalk and cheese

Originally Posted by noname999

Wow defender...why didn't you speak earlier?? The whole mystery has been solved.

Where do I sign up?

I wonder if he really believes that stuff he is spouting? Or is it an attempt at damage limitation, or what?

What he is spouting doesn't even make sense. If he is too lazy to read back over the FACTS that have been given, I'm sure not going to waste my time showing him how wrong he is.