Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Chris_B

I'm talking about the evidence that in a Blind Network you will never know where the ads are....

But I see someone is again asking for where the ads are...

That is not how blind network works . It means you can't control where your ads will be placed, not that their are completely unsearchable,the analytical for these ads will still be available to you ,though.Google's adsense used blind network too and I've seen hundreds of their ads everyday.Till now no one have found any substantial ads belonging to BB, this would be impossible for something purportedly of BB's size.

Originally Posted by Chris_B

I'm talking about the evidence that in a Blind Network you will never know where the ads are....

But I see someone is again asking for where the ads are...

One minute you can't see the ads, next minute you can look on half a dozen 'websites' and you CAN see the ads, any chance of a consensus as to which is the correct answer.
Surely if you had any credible 'facts', such as stats or traffic reports it would be much better to show them and that would put 'us' back in our box?

Originally Posted by Nourjan

That is not how blind network works . It means you can't control where your ads will be placed, not that their are completely unsearchable,the analytical for these ads will still be available to you ,though.Google's adsense used blind network too and I've seen hundreds of their ads everyday.Till now no one have found any substantial ads belonging to BB, this would be impossible for something purportedly of BB's size.

I suggest you to read again and better the article I linked...expecially point 7.

Originally Posted by Skyliner

One minute you can't see the ads, next minute you can look on half a dozen 'websites' and you CAN see the ads, any chance of a consensus as to which is the correct answer.
Surely if you had any credible 'facts', such as stats or traffic reports it would be much better to show them and that would put 'us' back in our box?

Half a dozen sites? What sites? Maybe you talk about Choice Network...
I'm talking about Blind Network...

Originally Posted by Chris_B

...But I see someone is again asking for where the ads are...

You're refering to me? I'm asking where is the advertising space being purchased from, which is different from "Where are the ads" - but if you can answer that one as well, great!

Originally Posted by otoad

BB certainly are a global company, based in Canada, with the most vocal affiliates in the UK.
And the most traffic originating in Russia.
According to Jamie, one of the UK leaders, BB “could” be using the Clicksor network, this makes for an interesting comparison on Alexa.
Thanks for the link Iain.
Is there something wrong with this picture?

You are welcome to the link Toad.

I am very happy for the locations of most Clicksor Ads to e in most influential Global market AND in one of the fastest growing Emerging markets...........great news isnt it

It does make interesting reading doesn't it

Originally Posted by Hypanor

You're refering to me? I'm asking where is the advertising space being purchased from, which is different from "Where are the ads" - but if you can answer that one as well, great!

I was not refering to you...
Anyway the information you ask for is obviously an internal BB insight. They will never say it to you.
I don't really know if BB uses this...but there are some "Advertising Trading Platforms" used for this kind of job...here's an example: Brandscreen - Company

Originally Posted by iainsherriff

I was asked a question and I've answered it.

However your response does reflect the typical standard in this topic. I do admit that there appear to be some people posting who show a bit of respect and maturity. Unfortunately the average level is that which one would expect to see in a school yard.

I hope by the time I return from my break the strangely compelling need to converse with you will have subsided.

You really haven't answered the questions I posed. You have been purposely vague. I am just trying to discuss further.

Can I ask how my response reflects such? I have tried to remain respectful and mature. You are the one saying that i am acting like a school child. I take it you would prefer to make a veiled attack on me personally then to discuss your less than adequate answers.

Anyway, both my asking of the questions and your answering is a futile exercise. I think we both know why that is.

Enjoy your break.

Originally Posted by Chris_B

I'm talking about the evidence that in a Blind Network you will never know where the ads are....

But I see someone is again asking for where the ads are...

That is not how a blind network works. Are you being purposely obtuse?

Originally Posted by Chris_B

I suggest you to read again and better the article I linked...expecially point 7.

Would you explain to me exactly what you see as meant point 7?

Originally Posted by Chris_B

...Anyway the information you ask for is obviously an internal BB insight. They will never say it to you...

Nice sidestep, and entirely expected. As an affiliate, wouldn't you expect to know just a little bit of information about how the business operates and performs? I'll accept that you have seen no reports, stats, or analysis so thats point 3 put to rest - you know nothing about your business.

So what about points 1 & 2? With the amount of banner space BB is supposedly buying, then why does no one in that industry know about them? And for point 2, wouldn't you expect BB to promote at least one publisher or advertiser 'success story' with the troops by now - "Hey troops, we signed up xxx to our publisher network today" or "Hey troops, company xxx has agreed to buy $2,500,000 worth of banner advertising through our network".

But that can never happen, can it.

You never can get a logical answer from them. They just defend bb because they are a part of it, and want it to last a little longer. I think they cant answer reasonable questions because they dont know the answers! Only their prophet Raj knows. And with his record, (last ponzi closed by Canada competition bureau), who could take him seriously.

Any sign of the Sunday World article?

Originally Posted by noname999

Would you explain to me exactly what you see as meant point 7?

Is meant what is written: "publishers want to remain ANONIMOUS"!

Originally Posted by otoad

BB certainly are a global company, based in Canada, with the most vocal affiliates in the UK.
And the most traffic originating in Russia.
According to Jamie, one of the UK leaders, BB “could” be using the Clicksor network, this makes for an interesting comparison on Alexa.
Thanks for the link Iain.
Is there something wrong with this picture?

For those of us who like the pictures very much, could someone please spell it out in very simple words what this means? Thank you.

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Nice sidestep, and entirely expected. As an affiliate, wouldn't you expect to know just a little bit of information about how the business operates and performs? I'll accept that you have seen no reports, stats, or analysis so thats point 3 put to rest - you know nothing about your business.

So what about points 1 & 2? With the amount of banner space BB is supposedly buying, then why does no one in that industry know about them? And for point 2, wouldn't you expect BB to promote at least one publisher or advertiser 'success story' with the troops by now - "Hey troops, we signed up xxx to our publisher network today" or "Hey troops, company xxx has agreed to buy $2,500,000 worth of banner advertising through our network".

But that can never happen, can it.

Every Company choses how to work...if they don't want to promote advertisers or publishers it's their choice...

All you have here are just "assumptions"...

@Chris B:

Are you an advertiser or a publisher with BB...or both?

Originally Posted by Chris_B

Is meant what is written: "publishers want to remain ANONIMOUS"!

Yes, this has nothing to do with not being able to find ads.

Originally Posted by Chris_B

...All you have here are just "assumptions"...

I haven't assumed that Banner Broker doesn't buy real banner space, there are numerous blogs from industry insiders who are calling Banners Broker a scam. How can Banners Broker be as big as they claim to be, with no interaction whatsoever with the commercial onine advertising industry? BB should easily be in the top 5 advertiser buyer segment now if they operated like they say they do, and would be taking a lot of business off other industry players. Surely someone would have noticed something by now?

I love this post in answer to the following question from Stacky

How did the gala dinner go at Citywest ? Hilarious chancers

Banner Brokers thread gone!! - Page 8 - Peoples Republic Of Cork Discussion Forums

Best explanation yet of how Banners Broker works.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

I love this post in answer to the following question from Stacky

How did the gala dinner go at Citywest ? Hilarious chancers

Banner Brokers thread gone!! - Page 8 - Peoples Republic Of Cork Discussion Forums

Lol! I like this one, although I had to read it twice to make sense of it!

One of my cousins was at it. Said dinner was a slap up 3 course - soup, turkey and ham, and jelly and ice-cream. You could start by ordering the soup, but you didn't eat it because to get your main course you had to send it back to the kitchen, then BOOM, main course arrives, instant food profit, you did the same again to get the jelly and ice-cream. They had brandy and cigars, too, but to get in on that action you had to get someone to order the soup, then BOOM again, in you'd a be ballin' with Hennessy and Hamlets.

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Lol! I like this one, although I had to read it twice to make sense of it!

Actually that explains how BB "works" really well :)

That’s when people that don’t actually own a website suddenly become both advertisers and publishers all at the same time, using the Banners Broker AdPub Combo, thus creating a new and, heretofore, unrecognised source of unlimited wealth:

Banners Broker Ireland

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Nice sidestep, and entirely expected. As an affiliate, wouldn't you expect to know just a little bit of information about how the business operates and performs? I'll accept that you have seen no reports, stats, or analysis so thats point 3 put to rest - you know nothing about your business.

So what about points 1 & 2? With the amount of banner space BB is supposedly buying, then why does no one in that industry know about them? And for point 2, wouldn't you expect BB to promote at least one publisher or advertiser 'success story' with the troops by now - "Hey troops, we signed up xxx to our publisher network today" or "Hey troops, company xxx has agreed to buy $2,500,000 worth of banner advertising through our network".

But that can never happen, can it.

They know everything about their "business" - that's why all this desperate try to put legal face on fraudulant activity what is mission impossible- what they obviously do not know

Originally Posted by noname999

Any sign of the Sunday World article?

If you have an iPad or iPhone you can download a Sunday World App. It's free & you are able to download two free issues.
The article is in page 26.

Just going to read it now. Apparently Banners Broker "has all the hallmarks of a Ponzi scheme" Who'd a thought