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02-18-2015, 09:56 AM
#16726
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Ken Roklin
Another example of someone who doesn't understand the English or reads into a statement what he wants it to say rather than what it actually says.
spin it however you want, they were all the same company:
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02-18-2015, 09:58 AM
#16727
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
As to the whole country discussion, I'd like to remind everyone that the "mother ship" Amway is in the USA.
Yes Madoff Ponzis are different but recruitment based Ponzis/MLMs are all under the same umbrella called NETWORK MARKETING. Banners Brokers just didn't have a tangible product.
Let's put these cancer cells out of business by prevention. Teach people to stop the chain called NWM, because the authorites limited as they are, are only treating the symptoms and the disease but not the cause.
Btw, I'm an American.
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02-18-2015, 10:10 AM
#16728
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Char
As to the whole country discussion, I'd like to remind everyone that the "mother ship" Amway is in the USA.
Yes Madoff Ponzis are different but recruitment based Ponzis/MLMs are all under the same umbrella called NETWORK MARKETING. Banners Brokers just didn't have a tangible product.
Let's put these cancer cells out of business by prevention. Teach people to stop the chain called NWM, because the authorites limited as they are, are only treating the symptoms and the disease but not the cause.
Btw, I'm an American.
problem is, no one else has claimed their country was any better at stopping this crap than any other. roklin wants people to believe absolutely nothing happens in Canada worthy of authority intervention - it's just all going on everywhere else.
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02-18-2015, 10:21 AM
#16729
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Marsh56
You fail to point out that Dillard was completely open with the members regarding the trading fiasco and that all of the other facets of the program are NOT proven to be scams.
You're right.
I didn't point out the receivership information was posted AFTER you were here so vociferously defending Dillard and Co
And, Dillard was charged and found guilty. All the excuses and stories in the world don't alter that fact. That's what fraudsters do, try and minimize the damage so they can carry on doing what they do.
As for being "off topic"
Ain't being an admin grand ??
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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02-18-2015, 10:26 AM
#16730
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Ken Roklin
Irrelevant Nonsense. Do your own homework if you want to know.
Hit a sore point, did I Ken ???
Not something we like to talk about, perhaps ??
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02-18-2015, 10:27 AM
#16731
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
marsh56
Only what he and others like Ribshaw state are apparently the "god's honest truth" or are relevant.
Funny how the "big dawgs" here can say anything they want and never be corrected.
How sad.
There there, I set up a donation page for you, perhaps it won't solve all the world's problems but at least you won't have to blubber on your sleeve.
www.gofundme.com/helpbuymarkaboxoftissues.
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Originally Posted by
marsh56
You fail to point out that Dillard was completely open with the members regarding the trading fiasco and that all of the other facets of the program are NOT proven to be scams.
Unless YOU can prove it was a premeditated scam, why not just close your trap about it, take your marbles and go home?
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As with the Banners Broker farce, anyone who was giving advice on investing knew or should have known the "trading fiasco" was a scam. As for proven, one of my favorite threads thanks for necroing it for me buddy. http://www.realscam.com/f8/elevation...-dillard-3445/
Maybe you have some proofs you want to add in Dillard's defense?
Originally Posted by
marsh56
Dillard paid the fine and continued to build his business. Enough said.
Dillard paid the fine and continued to build his business. screw people over. Enough said.
Originally Posted by
marsh56
Perhaps you need to look up the definition of "redemption".
REDEMPTION : conversion of paper money into specie
Right, like the financial bloodbath people took following Dillard into his silver trade.
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02-18-2015, 01:42 PM
#16732
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
marsh56
It's a shame that so many otherwise good conversations are hijacked by those who are full of themselves and do not respect the opinions of others.
. . . says the man who couldn't care less about the opinions of others.
Originally Posted by
marsh56
Honestly I could care less what any of you think about Dillard.
Originally Posted by
marsh56
You can claim all you want that EVG is a scam. I could care less.
Originally Posted by
marsh56
Honestly, I could care less how you all extrapolate that someone who participated in online "games" or Ponzi's is somehow not qualified to help people save and accumulate money.
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02-18-2015, 04:04 PM
#16733
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Whip
problem is, no one else has claimed their country was any better at stopping this crap than any other. roklin wants people to believe absolutely nothing happens in Canada worthy of authority intervention - it's just all going on everywhere else.
Again, your interpretation of comments is worse than a kid in grade 1. If I said anything close to what you are claiming, POST THE PROOF.
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02-18-2015, 04:05 PM
#16734
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
littleroundman
Hit a sore point, did I Ken ???
Not something we like to talk about, perhaps ??
No, just using your logic when replying to posts.
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02-18-2015, 05:11 PM
#16735
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Ken Roklin
Again, your interpretation of comments is worse than a kid in grade 1. If I said anything close to what you are claiming, POST THE PROOF.
You're sounding more and more like a HYIP ponzi cheerleader every day, Ken.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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02-18-2015, 08:04 PM
#16736
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Ken Roklin
Again, your interpretation of comments is worse than a kid in grade 1. If I said anything close to what you are claiming, POST THE PROOF.
all people have to do is read your posts dude.
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02-18-2015, 08:33 PM
#16737
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Whip
all people have to do is read your posts dude.
If they did they wouldn't come to the conclusion you did. You appear to have great difficulty understanding anything written in the English language.
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02-18-2015, 08:44 PM
#16738
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Ken Roklin
I noticed you didn't post the proof of your accusation.
Now you're getting to understand why forums such as this exist.
We don't have to form a focus group, consult with stakeholders, refer our conclusions to a committee for approval or conform to a regulation first implemented during the reign of King Henry the Eight and modified by countless generations of petty bureaucrats over the intervening years or consult our supperiors
Banners Broker / Achieve Community / Telexfree / AdSurf Daily were flagged as HYIP ponzi frauds here without any of the sort of "proof" HYIP ponzi pimps and the Ken Roklins' of the world demand.
You don't agree - we get that.
You think people can't see an agenda behind your weasel words - fine- we get that too.
Carry on, Ken, it's great having you here destroying your own credibility
Oh, you think you're "winning" - we get that as well.
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02-18-2015, 09:19 PM
#16739
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Actually, i do not see the point of so much arguing.
Ken loves Canada, so do I. Ken goes on offensive as soon as someone says anything about Canada - we all get it, let him do. Just do not make a big scene out of it.
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02-18-2015, 10:14 PM
#16740
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Ordinarily I would agree with you, NikSam.
But, this isn't about "Canada" it's about the recurring pattern of behaviour in which Ken has engaged since he joined.
Pick some inconsequential minor detail with no bearing on the subject under discussion and turn it into a full blown argument
This is a forum in which people are encouraged to express their opinion, not a court where every "T" needs crossing and every "I" needs dotting.
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02-19-2015, 03:26 AM
#16741
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
marsha
Personally that is why I have pretty much stopped posting in this entire forum.
. . . says the man who won't stop posting in this forum.
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02-19-2015, 10:11 AM
#16742
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
NikSam
Actually, i do not see the point of so much arguing.
Ken loves Canada, so do I. Ken goes on offensive as soon as someone says anything about Canada - we all get it, let him do. Just do not make a big scene out of it.
I only go on the defensive when someone makes comments based on articles that he wants people to believe are current but in reality are so old I believe Noah wrote them. I have been critisized in this forum in the past for making statements and not backing them up with proof. Then when I provide proof I get "irrelevant, nonsense" just because the reader doesn't like the fact I have provided proof for my argument.
LRM states this forum doesn't care about proof. If this forum doesn't care about facts/proof when making statements then what good is it? Many people come to this forum to find facts or proof that the "business" is either real or not, many stayed out of Banners Brokers because of what they read here. Now if all the posts were just unsubstantiated opinions/comments, then what is the point of even having the forum?
There are many posters here, including you, who post relevant comments/opinions and most of the time provide proof/facts to back them up. That is what make a good forum.
My latest argument with LRM was all based on me making a simple reply to a post that stated Canada was a safe haven for Ponzi scams. All I said was that it was based on old information and no longer valid. It wasn't me that blew this up into a big deal and frankly really should have ended with that comment or provide proof to the contrary. Pretty simple.
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02-19-2015, 10:20 AM
#16743
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Nah,
I'd rather keep pushing your buttons to keep you coming back and letting you hoist yourself on your own petard.
I was here yesterday, and I'll be here tomorrow.
You, on the other hand, have to make a conscious decision to come back so you can get the "last word" just as you did in your nit picking argumentative posts in the early part of this thread.
THAT is what is "simple"
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02-19-2015, 03:41 PM
#16744
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
littleroundman
Nah,
I'd rather keep pushing your buttons to keep you coming back and letting you hoist yourself on your own petard.
I was here yesterday, and I'll be here tomorrow.
You, on the other hand, have to make a conscious decision to come back so you can get the "last word" just as you did in your nit picking argumentative posts in the early part of this thread.
THAT is what is "simple"
Are you sure those decisions are "conscious"???
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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02-20-2015, 08:35 AM
#16745
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
If you think BB voodoo zombies on BB Facebook page are dead then you are badly wrong.Well,I red there lot of crap but this one is on the top - "..... WHEN the Universe has had it's day with the fools and their followers that HAD to claim back their deposits, and when IT has put BB is back on track (maybe after a massive court case - PROVING that it was not and IS not a ponzi - ABSOLUTELY NO referring was needed to earn), we can all celebrate. You've Just Got To Believe..... Imagine the messy databases that have to be cleaned up to have this happen - see it happening and believe it and it IS happening. Also, Curse the Trolls to POVERTY, we can all do this! Let their shallow souls wallow in the MISERY like they spread to other good people like BB affiliates.... well, maybe just for a year or two! DRIVE ON 2015 BB." ... hallelujah
Instead of loving people and using money, people often love money and use people
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02-20-2015, 08:51 AM
#16746
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Mundorf
If you think BB voodoo zombies on BB Facebook page are dead then you are badly wrong.Well,I red there lot of crap but this one is on the top - "..... WHEN the Universe has had it's day with the fools and their followers that HAD to claim back their deposits, and when IT has put BB is back on track (maybe after a massive court case - PROVING that it was not and IS not a ponzi - ABSOLUTELY NO referring was needed to earn), we can all celebrate. You've Just Got To Believe..... Imagine the messy databases that have to be cleaned up to have this happen - see it happening and believe it and it IS happening. Also, Curse the Trolls to POVERTY, we can all do this! Let their shallow souls wallow in the MISERY like they spread to other good people like BB affiliates.... well, maybe just for a year or two! DRIVE ON 2015 BB."
... hallelujah
Wow he (or she) must've gotten into a stash of that whacky tabaccy...!
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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02-20-2015, 11:25 AM
#16747
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Once again, you guys are always RIGHT and the rest of the world is WRONG.
No worries, I get it.
@Bluewolf: just being honest. Sorry if you don't like it.
@LRM: keep being always right. You're my hero.
@Ribshaw: love your sarcasm. Hope it serves you well.
Regarding Dillard (off topic but LRM opened the door--yet again), I COULD care less how you all feel. Again, apparently, the word "redemption" is not in your collective vocabulary.
How sad.
Ciao.
Mark
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02-20-2015, 01:11 PM
#16748
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
marsh56
Once again, you guys are always RIGHT and the rest of the world is WRONG.
No worries, I get it.
@Bluewolf: just being honest. Sorry if you don't like it.
@LRM: keep being always right. You're my hero.
@Ribshaw: love your sarcasm. Hope it serves you well.
Regarding Dillard (off topic but LRM opened the door--yet again), I COULD care less how you all feel. Again, apparently, the word "redemption" is not in your collective vocabulary.
How sad.
Ciao.
Mark
I look and post in a number of forums and am able to share my opinion without the Admin jumping on every post adding nothing to the discussion such as LRM does in this forum. When you prove LRM wrong he calls it irrelevant nonsense and changes the topic. He must have the last word and he is never wrong. And you are right, his attitude drives a lot of people away from what should be an informative forum for those doing due diligence on potential home businesses.
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02-20-2015, 07:35 PM
#16749
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Ken Roklin
And you are right, his attitude drives a lot of people away from what should be an informative forum for those doing due diligence on potential home businesses.
You know, quite recently we had someone on here demanding posters provided proof of statements they made and opinions they gave.
Can't think who it was just now.
Anyway, back on topic.
Just how many is " a lot" Ken, how do you know how many have been driven away and are they the type of people at whom the forum is targetted ??
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02-20-2015, 07:42 PM
#16750
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
marsh56
I COULD care less how you all feel. Again, apparently, the word "redemption" is not in your collective vocabulary.
redemption/rɪˈdɛm(p)ʃ(ə)n/
noun
- the action of saving or being saved from sin, error, or evil.
- the action of regaining or gaining possession of something in exchange for payment, or clearing a debt.
Given the fact Dillard is continuing on his merry way cheating and lying, he definitely hasn't been saved from error or evil and he DEFINITELY hasn't cleared the debt he incurred with all the victims of the fraud for which he was charged and convicted.
As to whether he regained possession of something at a pawn broker, I have no idea.
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