Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Arthur Foxache

Yes it was in the T/C's... on a lighter note does anyone know if the Canadian courts have live video streaming of trials...(cos if they do its popcorn times)..

They do not even have something like Pacer or public disclosure of proceedings.
Only by written request.
And you want them to stream it live :)

But wait! What's this I saw over on the BB FB page?
BB FB 8th Oct 14.jpg
Good news? Whatever can she mean?

I think it's a progression. Based on the sequence of events so far then taken in reverse:

• A closed website is better that a website with a certificate error.
• A working website that allows people to make payments to criminals is better than a closed website.
• A business that pays stolen money out to a very few people is better than a business that makes no payments at all.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

But wait! What's this I saw over on the BB FB page?
BB FB 8th Oct 14.jpg
Good news? Whatever can she mean?

She was another one I sent a private message to with links warning about BB and the report in The Irish Examiner about the Canadian courts being on their asses. And just like 98% of the people I contacted, she clearly ignored all of that and instead chose to believe whatever the likes of the BB Facebook admin and Ian Sherriff spewed forth.

Sad.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

But wait! What's this I saw over on the BB FB page?
BB FB 8th Oct 14.jpg
Good news? Whatever can she mean?

Ironically given the date over on FB our BBPS compatriot is reporting

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Banne...98614356881465

On October 14th Simon Stepsys will face Court.
I was wondering what Demian was doing.
And on October 15th, BB will face a motion at the Canadian Courts!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

But wait! What's this I saw over on the BB FB page?
BB FB 8th Oct 14.jpg
Good news? Whatever can she mean?

Ironically given the date over on FB our BBPS compatriot is reporting

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Banne...98614356881465

On October 14th Simon Stepsys will face Court.
I was wondering what Demian was doing.
And on October 15th, BB will face a motion at the Canadian Courts!

Iain Sherriff is over at Banners Broker Ponzi Scam page if you want to join in!

Originally Posted by HARRISON

Iain Sherriff is over at Banners Broker Ponzi Scam page if you want to join in!

funny watching lying scumbags squirm.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

Iain Sherriff is over at Banners Broker Ponzi Scam page if you want to join in!

Run, Forrest Iain run

Think we are joking ???

It's started already:



Banners Broker Ponzi Scam community on Facebook

Look out particularly for small unusual or unexplained charges on your credit or debit card

After the closure by the SEC of AdSurf Daily, scammers made hundreds of small $38 charges against victims' accounts, so they could be easily overlooked.

Banners broker will probably be worse, since members gave BB permission to sell their private information

Unfortunately, Iain, not everyone CAN see Talking BB.

Not everyone has access to it, and some people who used to have access now don't, because they were banned from it for asking difficult questions or "being negative".

Over on the BB FB page, there are comments from people who clearly don't (or didn't at the time they wrote) have a clue about the current state of BB. Some were clearly hoping that BB would come back. Any comments which were critical of BB in any way have been swiftly edited out. Someone must be monitoring the page and removing these comments. In the light of the liquidation of BB and pending criminal investigations, is this a wise thing to do? If whoever administrates that page does not want information about the court hearings and the court documents to get out, then why doesn't he/she just take the page down altogether? Why keep it there, when the BB site has been inaccessible for more than 40 days?

Some of the most fervent supporters of BB on the FB page now seem to have gone quiet. I hope that they were able to find the information they needed, and that they HAVE come to a conclusion about it. The only trouble is, I fear that some people will say that "no-one has been fund guilty yet, so there's still hope". That's partly true. Allegations have not yet been tested in a court of law. However, I do not think that there is any hope for BB. There is serious and damning evidence about what went on out there. The genie is out of the bottle and cannot be put back. I do not think for one minute BB will reappear. I think that's it. The responsible thing to do would be to actively discourage people from thinking that somehow, someday, BB will reappear and they will all get paid. The receivers are in, for goodness sake!

It's over. And no-one should be even slightly encouraged to think that it will ever come back.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

It's not scaremongering to say that Banners Broker members should be very, very concerned with the possibility their information is already in the hands of criminal gangs.

It is not at all unusual for members of "next-big-thing" HYIP ponzi frauds to discover their identities have been stolen and / or bank accounts accessed.

HYIP ponzi fraud membership lists are worth big money to the criminal underworld and the chances of them being "secure" are next to none.

Banners Broker members would be well advised to keep a very close eye on their bank accounts and credit cards over the next few months and be alert to the possibility their identities have been stolen and ESPECIALLY wary of strangers trying to obtain personal details which could be used to complete the information the criminals already have obtained via the membership lists.

I'm not so sure that the personal information was stolen. It's more likely that Chris sold that information since the affiliates gave him carte blanche to do whatever he wants with that info when they agreed to BBI's terms and conditions.

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

I'm not so sure that the personal information was stolen. It's more likely that Chris sold that information since the affiliates gave him carte blanche to do whatever he wants with that info when they agreed to BBI's terms and conditions.

I have posted before so I won't go to far in but this should be a wake up call for everyone to lock their credit down and to check their credit reports for mischief. Someone just hacked Dairy Queen for records on the three people that paid for their blizzards on installment. When crap like that is happening no one is immune.

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

I'm not so sure that the personal information was stolen. It's more likely that Chris sold that information since the affiliates gave him carte blanche to do whatever he wants with that info when they agreed to BBI's terms and conditions.

I didn't say the personal information was stolen.

In fact, in post #16460 I pointed out: "Banners broker will probably be worse, (than AdSurf Daily) since members gave BB permission to sell their private information"

The information itself is harmless, until someone uses it to steal identities and / or access bank and credit card accounts.

Identity theft can cost the victims millions of dollars, cause irreparable damage to current and future credit ratings and take years to rectify

Wonder how long this will remains on Little Jamie's Facebook page? He's another one rewriting history and airburshing out his association with BB....
JW 10 Oct 14.jpg

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Wonder how long this will remains on Little Jamie's Facebook page? He's another one rewriting history and airburshing out his association with BB....
JW 10 Oct 14.jpg

Grab Ann Hardman's comment on Jamie's post, before it is deleted.

Link please.

Originally Posted by SpiderBear

Grab Ann Hardman's comment on Jamie's post, before it is deleted.

gullibleprat.jpg

Hahaha, that's priceless. Ann is the definition of hopeless optimism. Yes Ann, Smith and Dixit haven't been proven guilty yet, but have you actually read the evidence? Why do you still want to believe that Chris Smith is a good guy? He's obviously guilty as sin. It's only a matter of time

Pass the black cap.

Ann still believes in Chris from pure defiance.It seems as this woman really enjoys being ignorant and extremely defiant.Behind all off her optimism, what we have is a person full of hate and with impulsive reactions.No meter how you approach her or the way you start to give your critical view on BB,you will be declared as a very rude person and totally ignored.This is definitely the person I would never ever ask for any suggestion or help as she is constantly dieing for a violent attack on everything and everyone who has anything against on anything she says or does .The woman is more pathological case then her questionable involvement in the scam till the very last end.

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

I'm not so sure that the personal information was stolen. It's more likely that Chris sold that information since the affiliates gave him carte blanche to do whatever he wants with that info when they agreed to BBI's terms and conditions.

A general point here folks.

So.... people "signed up" to BB terms & conditions?

I'm struggling with that. From the off, this was a criminal ponzi scheme, surely the T & C set out were invalid as the "contract" was null and void from the start?? If so, does that make it "theft" of IDs?

Any legal brains around that could clarify this point?

Originally Posted by AshKen1

A general point here folks.

So.... people "signed up" to BB terms & conditions?

I'm struggling with that. From the off, this was a criminal ponzi scheme, surely the T & C set out were invalid as the "contract" was null and void from the start?? If so, does that make it "theft" of IDs?

Any legal brains around that could clarify this point?

When you go through their Terms and Conditions you can easily identify many terms that legally are unenforceable and/or not even legal in most countries. They do this to scare members and keep them under control, limiting them to what they can say or write. Companies, like BBI, would never go to court to enforce any of their terms as that would expose them as the fraudulent companies that they are.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

A general point here folks.

So.... people "signed up" to BB terms & conditions?

I'm struggling with that. From the off, this was a criminal ponzi scheme, surely the T & C set out were invalid as the "contract" was null and void from the start?? If so, does that make it "theft" of IDs?

Any legal brains around that could clarify this point?

* There is no valid "contract" when Banners Broker was and is a fraud.

* Within most countries, people cannot sign away their rights or be induced to sign away their rights.

* The point about mentioning Smith giving away or selling the membership lists isn't to do with the legality or otherwise, it is merely to point out it (almost certainly) has happened and members need to now protect themselves.

In previous similar cases, cheerleaders and pimps attempted to confuse members by claiming they (the members) had agreed to allow their information to be used in any way the fraudsters saw fit, so they had no grounds for complaint.

Which is absolute B/S of course, but it doesn't solve the problem, which is, Banners Broker members are at extreme risk of falling victim to a fraud on top of a fraud.

Make no mistake, despite the fact Smiffy and Co appear to be bumbling fools, Banners Broker is a multi million dollar fraud involving criminals and criminal gangs whose only goal is to extract the maximum amount they can from its' victims and for whom identity fraud is just one of many ways they accomplish their goal.

Now here's something interesting over on the Banners Broker Support Forum FB page:-

www.facebook.com/groups/102226373288178/

Suddenly, people are posting the truth - well done John Scott, Joe Mac, Suzanne Hughes and Ria Taverne, who have all replied to the posting from Little Jamie at the end of September. And so far, not been removed!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Now here's something interesting over on the Banners Broker Support Forum FB page:-

www.facebook.com/groups/102226373288178/

Suddenly, people are posting the truth - well done John Scott, Joe Mac, Suzanne Hughes and Ria Taverne, who have all replied to the posting from Little Jamie at the end of September. And so far, not been removed!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Now here's something interesting over on the Banners Broker Support Forum FB page:-

www.facebook.com/groups/102226373288178/

Suddenly, people are posting the truth - well done John Scott, Joe Mac, Suzanne Hughes and Ria Taverne, who have all replied to the posting from Little Jamie at the end of September. And so far, not been removed!

They better be careful they don't get their BB Mobile accounts shut down with all this sass talking.