Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Over on BB World FB site, we have this....


This may be of interest to y'all..............

Fraser is the IC for Cyprus & Greece

Just in - to give you an idea why BB has been down
[10:18:48] Fraser Douther: [10:02] Terry Stern:

Hello Everyone,
The issue of the website being hit by the latest global DDOS attacks has surfaced over and over, and from what I'm hearing, you'd like an official statement to say when contacted by affiliates....
Chris recently told affiliates in a webinar that the website was being hit by denial of service attacks, which was the reason the website was down and being moved from one hosting company to another.
If you are asked, yes the servers the site was originally on was hit by these attacks which was the reason for the site move, and the reason BB has spent an immense amount of money putting into place firewall protection to prevent this from happening again.
The site is now up and running smoothly, and the IT staff is diligently working to correct any issues that were caused by the move as quickly as they can - placing priority on fixing issues surrounding panel display and movement, as well as traffic allocation.
Payments through STP and Payza are still being processed on time, however, once again, after the funds have been released to these companies, it's up to their timeline as to when the final release of funds will be. We can not guarantee or state dates payments will be finalized.
As to the issue of the April 1st deadline, we are currently waiting final verification that the date has been moved back to April 15th before publicly releasing that information, so please have your teams prepared once it's been made official. This is in direct response to the delays that have been faced as the result of the website downtime over the past 2 weeks.all will be on the site today advising people
[10:19:00] Fraser Douther: End

And this, partially quoted above by Blindside:-

I hope this will help people understand why we are experiencing delays with payout transfers from our e-wallets.

Firstly, it must be understood that what is showing as “available to withdraw” in your e-wallet is NOT REAL MONEY – The figure represents your earnings that are owed to you by BB.

There is NO CASH in your e-wallet!

When BB transfers money to your STP or Payza account, they can only do so from their CASH RESERVES - which are held in their different Bank accounts around the globe.

When there is insufficient money in their cash reserves for a full transfer, then BB can only do a part transfer. Even those amounts are huge!

EXAMPLE: Say there are 200,000 affiliates expecting to receive $1,000 each. This means that BB would need to have $200,000,000 CASH sitting in their “cash reserve” accounts.
And that is not peanuts! But what if there are 300,000 affiliates, each expecting to receive
$2,500??? That is 750 million dollars that would need to go out in one hit.

Cash flow problems are common with new rapidly growing companies.

This extract is taken from Wikipedia regarding AMAZON:
“Amazon's initial business plan was unusual. It did not expect to make a profit for the first four to five years.

This "slow" growth caused stockholders to complain about the company not reaching profitability fast enough to justify purchasing in, or to even survive in the long-term.
When the dot-com bubble burst at the start of the 21st Century, destroying many e-companies in the process, Amazon survived, and grew on past the bubble burst to become a huge player in online sales.

It finally turned its FIRST PROFIT in the fourth quarter of 2001: $5 million (i.e., 1¢ per share), on revenues of more than $1 billion.

This profit margin, though extremely modest, proved to skeptics that Bezos' unconventional business model could succeed.[19] In 1999, Time magazine named Bezos the Person of the Year, recognizing the company's success in popularizing online shopping.”

So people, PLEASE BE PATIENT and try to understand BB’s predicament. If Amazon can eventually become a major global player, then so will BB.

Yes, BB’s Pay Outs at this stage are painfully slow, but they always come through. I personally have a lot of faith in BB’s management and their ability to profitably handle the Billion dollar revenues generated by their revolutionary business model. I also believe 100% that the present delays with their payouts to us are temporary and will be resolved in the near future.

Source: Alan Kent from one of the BB Skype Chats

So in other words, folks.......there's no money left!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

And this, partially quoted above by Blindside:-

I hope this will help people understand why we are experiencing delays with payout transfers from our e-wallets.

Firstly, it must be understood that what is showing as “available to withdraw” in your e-wallet is NOT REAL MONEY – The figure represents your earnings that are owed to you by BB.

There is NO CASH in your e-wallet!

When BB transfers money to your STP or Payza account, they can only do so from their CASH RESERVES - which are held in their different Bank accounts around the globe.

When there is insufficient money in their cash reserves for a full transfer, then BB can only do a part transfer. Even those amounts are huge!

EXAMPLE: Say there are 200,000 affiliates expecting to receive $1,000 each. This means that BB would need to have $200,000,000 CASH sitting in their “cash reserve” accounts.
And that is not peanuts! But what if there are 300,000 affiliates, each expecting to receive
$2,500??? That is 750 million dollars that would need to go out in one hit.

Cash flow problems are common with new rapidly growing companies.

This extract is taken from Wikipedia regarding AMAZON:
“Amazon's initial business plan was unusual. It did not expect to make a profit for the first four to five years.

This "slow" growth caused stockholders to complain about the company not reaching profitability fast enough to justify purchasing in, or to even survive in the long-term.
When the dot-com bubble burst at the start of the 21st Century, destroying many e-companies in the process, Amazon survived, and grew on past the bubble burst to become a huge player in online sales.

It finally turned its FIRST PROFIT in the fourth quarter of 2001: $5 million (i.e., 1¢ per share), on revenues of more than $1 billion.

This profit margin, though extremely modest, proved to skeptics that Bezos' unconventional business model could succeed.[19] In 1999, Time magazine named Bezos the Person of the Year, recognizing the company's success in popularizing online shopping.”

So people, PLEASE BE PATIENT and try to understand BB’s predicament. If Amazon can eventually become a major global player, then so will BB.

Yes, BB’s Pay Outs at this stage are painfully slow, but they always come through. I personally have a lot of faith in BB’s management and their ability to profitably handle the Billion dollar revenues generated by their revolutionary business model. I also believe 100% that the present delays with their payouts to us are temporary and will be resolved in the near future.

Source: Alan Kent from one of the BB Skype Chats

So in other words, folks.......there's no money left!

Sorry, but wasn't the boast that BB was a cash-rich business? From the description above it sounds more like a Ponzi scheme.


Oh, wait.....

Originally Posted by Theseus

David Tree? That'll be this chap (Referred to by Mark "Twice Ya Stupidity" Stokes as "David Wood" )

Attachment 1976

The pic of Del Trotter on the mantle behind him should give a clue to his business ethics, as should his boast (in a BB video linked to elsewhere in this thread) about BBI moving its registered offices from tax haven to tax haven, in order to stay one step ahead of the authorities.

Well at least his purse on the door matches his pretty blue sweater. If you are going to scam 100s of thousands of people it is important not to clash. But on a serious note, that guy looks like he would say anything for a diaper change and some strained carrots.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Does anyone know anything about Nigel Albright, he seems to be another BB pimp taking advantage of people in a very depressed area.

Starter

Yes, indeed:-

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Originally Posted by Della Cate

This extract is taken from Wikipedia regarding AMAZON:
“Amazon's initial business plan was unusual. It did not expect to make a profit for the first four to five years.

This "slow" growth caused stockholders to complain about the company not reaching profitability fast enough to justify purchasing in, or to even survive in the long-term.
When the dot-com bubble burst at the start of the 21st Century, destroying many e-companies in the process, Amazon survived, and grew on past the bubble burst to become a huge player in online sales.

It finally turned its FIRST PROFIT in the fourth quarter of 2001: $5 million (i.e., 1¢ per share), on revenues of more than $1 billion.

This profit margin, though extremely modest, proved to skeptics that Bezos' unconventional business model could succeed.[19] In 1999, Time magazine named Bezos the Person of the Year, recognizing the company's success in popularizing online shopping.”

So people, PLEASE BE PATIENT and try to understand BB’s predicament. If Amazon can eventually become a major global player, then so will BB.

That's all very good, except from day one Amazon had PRODUCTS that had a real value, that any person could buy and actually receive, and touch with their own hands. A ponzi like Banners Broker only has coloured panels to sell, that do bugger all (more so (or is that less so?) in the past two weeks) and have no value in the real world.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Chris recently told affiliates in a webinar that the website was being hit by denial of service attacks, which was the reason the website was down and being moved from one hosting company to another.
If you are asked, yes the servers the site was originally on was hit by these attacks which was the reason for the site move, and the reason BB has spent an immense amount of money putting into place firewall protection to prevent this from happening again.

...aaaaand here's an explanation of why the internet has not been at all affected by the supposed DDOS attacks reported in the media over the last couple of days:

That Internet War Apocalypse Is a Lie

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Does anyone know anything about Nigel Albright, he seems to be another BB pimp taking advantage of people in a very depressed area.

Starter

Thats a great website, so 90's Microsoft Frontpage! Where are the animated gif's and background .wav file though?

Oh dear Nigel - the compliancy goon squad will be after you. Can you hear the jackboots coming?

People sometimes get a little amazed that in Banners Broker you will get a return of twice what your purchase price.

Watch out everyone, Hooker is coming for us!

However, David Hooker of StellarPoint, the marketing and support arm of Banners Broker, says Banners Broker will be legally pursuing the negative scammers who tell blatant lies about the Company.

Oh hang on, we did this a few months ago didn't we.

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Thats a great website, so 90's Microsoft Frontpage! Where are the animated gif's and background .wav file though?

Oh dear Nigel - the compliancy goon squad will be after you. Can you hear the jackboots coming?

Watch out everyone, Hooker is coming for us!



Oh hang on, we did this a few months ago didn't we.

did you notice at the bottom of his beautiful website
"Nigel Albright is an affiliate of Banners Broker. The content of this website has been approved by Banners Broker International. Much of the material collated, either from Banners Broker information or, from other, considered reliable, sources and considered accurate at the time of writing. However, the design and format of this site is © Nigel Albright 2012.

i wonder how many panels this got him

Have just noticed something about a recent FB posting. Rui Salguiero is a regular poster for BB but this intrigued me:


Sorry guys, a question. Due the long maintanance from bb-website it wasnt possible to upload an id. Now the 30 days are over!!
What to do now? Some ideas? Thanks.

7 hours ago via mobile..

Rui Sulguiero: no worrys..just do it next week
7 hours ago..

He Hol Its not disabled now?
Thanks Rui for your fast answer.



So basically...Rui seems to be writing BB terms and conditions? Which I can only conclude means he is most definitely NOT an ordinary affilliate?

Also...there has been NO activity/deletions on FB since March 15th?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Over on BB World FB site, we have this....


Terry Stern:

The site is now up and running smoothly, and the IT staff is diligently working to correct any issues.....

What, all one of them?

Thanks Terry. This helps to explain the delays, and generally crap service from BB. The multi-million dollar company has just one staff member working diligently.

Wait,... soooo, Raj is a sole trader?

Originally Posted by Beethoven

What, all one of them?

Thanks Terry. This helps to explain the delays, and generally crap service from BB. The multi-million dollar company has just one staff member working diligently.

Wait,... soooo, Raj is a sole trader?

I was going to argue the toss over the rules of singular collectives; but I really can't be arsed!

Here is an example of an amazing BB approved article The likes of this will get the traffic flooding to the choice network.


http://tomhalbert.com/make-money-with-banners-broker-6/


In my last post for ‘Make Money with Banners Broker’ … here.. I talked about how to get ‘Incentive’ traffic to qualify your panels. Well since I posted that I have indeed tried my own small hand at writing a couple of articles. 1 of these articles seen below has now been approved and hopefully will give you a better idea of how simple it is to receive traffic using this method.

Make Money with Banners Broker – My First Article Writing Credit!

My first article was about of all things, ‘Heartburn’ and how I finally found a cure for it after many months of suffering.
This was my article:
‘Finding a Cure for Heartburn at Last!’
There are several myths these days about what to do about a very common complaint like heartburn. Visit your local GP and you will no doubt be given the same old remedy which will alleviate your symptoms, but alas, will not actually cure your extremely irritating condition.
That is, the doctor will prescribe you some form of antacid to actually weaken the acid strength in your stomach, thus causing your probably even more pain or just simply a continuation of the problem.
The problem in fact is that you are suffering from a LACK of stomach acid which controls the digestive system so well normally. How do you get a sufficient level of stomach acid?
The 2 main ingredients required for your stomach to produce sufficient strength of acid are:

1. HCL- Hydrochloric acid formed by water and chloride. 90% of your body is made up of water, so no worries there. The chloride can be found in NaCL which of course as we all know is SALT! So if you happen to be on a salt-restricted diet, and your having digestion/heartburn problems..you are doing something wrong! Get some Iodised salt and use it to make your food taste good! Period.
2. Calcium- Get yourself a calcium supplement in liquid form.

So these are only 2 of the nutrients required to stabilize your chronic hearburn or GERD complaint.
Of course to gain total health benefits for all round vitality and life, we actually require 90 essential minerals and vitamins and we need to take these 90 lovely things every single day of our lives.
A little research on the internet will avail you of exactly what these 90 minerals and vitamins are.

Make Money with Banners Broker – My First Article Writing Credit!
As you can see above, this was a very simple article indeed with the smallest of research done to get a few facts correct. It took me between 20 and 30 minutes to complete.
For this article I received 1250 credits to go towards qualifying any colour panel of my choosing. (normally yellow). Having just also signed someone up to a yellow package has given me another 2500 sales credits towards qualifying another yellow panel. So I only have to write another article and receive another 1250 credits and ‘voila’, 1 more yellow panel qualified!
You see how using 2 different sources of traffic credit can quickly accumulate to make money with banners broker!

I will definitely be following this route for aquiring free traffic and have already written 2 more articles which are ‘pending’ as we speak.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Here is an example of an amazing BB approved article The likes of this will get the traffic flooding to the choice network.


http://tomhalbert.com/make-money-with-banners-broker-6/


In my last post for ‘Make Money with Banners Broker’ … here.. I talked about how to get ‘Incentive’ traffic to qualify your panels. Well since I posted that I have indeed tried my own small hand at writing a couple of articles. 1 of these articles seen below has now been approved and hopefully will give you a better idea of how simple it is to receive traffic using this method.

Make Money with Banners Broker – My First Article Writing Credit!

My first article was about of all things, ‘Heartburn’ and how I finally found a cure for it after many months of suffering.
This was my article:
‘Finding a Cure for Heartburn at Last!’
There are several myths these days about what to do about a very common complaint like heartburn. Visit your local GP and you will no doubt be given the same old remedy which will alleviate your symptoms, but alas, will not actually cure your extremely irritating condition.
That is, the doctor will prescribe you some form of antacid to actually weaken the acid strength in your stomach, thus causing your probably even more pain or just simply a continuation of the problem.
The problem in fact is that you are suffering from a LACK of stomach acid which controls the digestive system so well normally. How do you get a sufficient level of stomach acid?
The 2 main ingredients required for your stomach to produce sufficient strength of acid are:

1. HCL- Hydrochloric acid formed by water and chloride. 90% of your body is made up of water, so no worries there. The chloride can be found in NaCL which of course as we all know is SALT! So if you happen to be on a salt-restricted diet, and your having digestion/heartburn problems..you are doing something wrong! Get some Iodised salt and use it to make your food taste good! Period.
2. Calcium- Get yourself a calcium supplement in liquid form.

So these are only 2 of the nutrients required to stabilize your chronic hearburn or GERD complaint.
Of course to gain total health benefits for all round vitality and life, we actually require 90 essential minerals and vitamins and we need to take these 90 lovely things every single day of our lives.
A little research on the internet will avail you of exactly what these 90 minerals and vitamins are.

Make Money with Banners Broker – My First Article Writing Credit!
As you can see above, this was a very simple article indeed with the smallest of research done to get a few facts correct. It took me between 20 and 30 minutes to complete.
For this article I received 1250 credits to go towards qualifying any colour panel of my choosing. (normally yellow). Having just also signed someone up to a yellow package has given me another 2500 sales credits towards qualifying another yellow panel. So I only have to write another article and receive another 1250 credits and ‘voila’, 1 more yellow panel qualified!
You see how using 2 different sources of traffic credit can quickly accumulate to make money with banners broker!

I will definitely be following this route for aquiring free traffic and have already written 2 more articles which are ‘pending’ as we speak.

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Whoops....

Originally Posted by Theseus

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Whoops....

I have a friend who has worked for the past year or so writing articles like this for SEO "content" companies. He recently realised that it's a really poor way to make a living, as well as being incredibly dull and unrewarding.

Now isn't this amazing: the people who came in to BB looking to double their money via a passive investment, possibly dreaming of breaking free from the rat race and retiring to Tenerife, have somehow been tricked into becoming SEO content generators, doing a dull and soul-less job for a pittance! Ever hear the story of the frog placed in a pan of water that is slowly heated until it cooks?

Is this the fabled Stokesian "Internet Lifestyle"?

Originally Posted by Theseus

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Whoops....

Ok, but I am so confused, congrats on your grammar test but am I mistaken? Are they not taking 'blogs' for credit after the 1st April when v2.9 kicks in or the 15th whatever pretendy date they pick? How can he be submitting blogs, having them approved, having traffic moved when the site has been down for virtually 2 weeks, they are allegedly all trying to fix the 'glitches' , Raj and Chris are in Cyprus so who is even reading them? Do I detect a porkie? Well I hope it's not the way forward, hope none of those affiliates has hemorrhoids

Ken Roklin puts it very succinctly over on Finch's when he says ' BB haven't run out of money , they have just run out of money that they are willing to share with you ( the affiliates)

Nice one Ken, to the point !

Originally Posted by Theseus

Sorry, but wasn't the boast that BB was a cash-rich business? From the description above it sounds more like a Ponzi scheme.


Oh, wait.....

But Chris boasted just a month ago that the company was debt free and paid out a lot more than they took in. Now they figure they have a cash flow problem? Duh, any company that pays out more than they take in will have a cash flow problem yet BB faithful trust them to get to profitability? How can they do that with a business model that is based on paying out more than it takes in?

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

But Chris boasted just a month ago that the company was debt free and paid out a lot more than they took in.

It does - Smith gets paid a lot, Dixit gets paid a lot, Hooker gets paid a lot, Guarini gets paid a lot.....

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

But Chris boasted just a month ago that the company was debt free and paid out a lot more than they took in. Now they figure they have a cash flow problem? Duh, any company that pays out more than they take in will have a cash flow problem yet BB faithful trust them to get to profitability? How can they do that with a business model that is based on paying out more than it takes in?

Anyone that believes the claims of pimps, shills and admins is either stoned, stupid, gullible, or believes in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...!

Originally Posted by Theseus

He struck me more as someone who was going to turn up at work one day to find it all locked up and empty, rather than an SP scammer in the mould of Hood, Stern or Dixit.

he struck me as possibly white chris smith's brother. lmao

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Thats a great website, so 90's Microsoft Frontpage! Where are the animated gif's and background .wav file though?

Oh dear Nigel - the compliancy goon squad will be after you. Can you hear the jackboots coming?



Watch out everyone, Hooker is coming for us!



Oh hang on, we did this a few months ago didn't we.

hooker can go straight to IC3 and for all the important information about me as they I gave them his name and all the important information about this scam and his involvement in this scam already. The secret service and the FBI has my name, telephone information and address already along with the case number and the information and links of what I reported about this scam.

Originally Posted by laidback

Anyone that believes the claims of pimps, shills and admins is either stoned, stupid, gullible, or believes in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy...!

The white Tooth Fairy, or the black one?

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Here is an example of an amazing BB approved article The likes of this will get the traffic flooding to the choice network.

That's one blog down, he only has another 30-odd to write to make his daily quota when the new 'rules' kick in.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Over on BB World FB site, we have this....


This may be of interest to y'all..............

Fraser is the IC for Cyprus & Greece

Just in - to give you an idea why BB has been down
[10:18:48] Fraser Douther:

Thought I'd do quick Google on Mr Douther and his company, Facebook pretty much has BB nailed....

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"When you wish upon a panel star...."