Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Hypanor

This one is just weird - Presumably trying to generate some organic traffic so his yellow panel will cap in about 7 years!

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Looks like it's been run through a (bad) online translator...

Originally Posted by Theseus

Looks like it's been run through a (bad) online translator...

that's what I was thinking, then I wonder, why would you need to translate your sales pitch into a different language? Surely, your downline /target market speaks your language?

Means nothing in the scheme of things, but I wonder why David 'The Enforcer' Hooker has stopped liking or commenting on his fans posts?
He replied or liked every single one from Aug 21 (as early as the others posts go) up until Dec 11, then not a single reply in over two months now.
Its not like he's never on there, he (or his lackey) is posting status updates (shared motivational drivel) umpteen times a day!

http://www.facebook.com/DavidHookerW...ker?ref=stream

Originally Posted by Theseus

Looks like it's been run through a (bad) online translator...

Not an online translator, its been put thru an article spinner, and created as a buffer page for a dodgy backlinking strategy, it goes like this

1) take an article about banners brokers, then "spin it" into many unique articles that make no sense grammatically but google would consider unique banners brokers content, put each unique article on a web 2.0 site such as in this case orbs.
2) have the orb article point to the "money site" in this case ben poultons you tube banners brokers channel
3) run a backlinking software program creating tens of thousands of links to the orb page using forum and comment spam
4) sit back and watch google crawl all the links, which are all ultimately pointing to ben poultons you tube page with the anchor text "banners brokers"
5) gullible investor searches "banners brokers" in google or you tube where ben poulton ranks highly, and hey presto sign up into ben poultons banners brokers downline.
6) ben poulton pays his spammer from his winnings and moves onto his next scam


This is the backlink profile of the orbs page you are referring to
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288 of the links have the anchor text "banners broker"

over in blackhat world which is the hangout of the not so morally restrained internet marketers, they say this
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considering what else goes on in blackhatworld, it is a the biggest red flag going that they don't approve of banners brokers, we're talking about a forum that trades click frauds, pirate porn content, buys and sells ebay and paypal accounts, sells hijacked twitter and facebook accounts, and just below the surface buys and sells stolen and cloned credit card details and offers services such as hacking into competitors websites, these guys pull the strings on MMG, talkgold etc with multiple identities.

Since the average user over there is clued up on Internet Marketing it is not surprise that they consider banners brokers a complete joke

If blackhatworld consider banners brokers to be a scam then run for your life.

There's a common phrase that keeps appearing - "unique contextual targeting technology" and "Fraxel (or "Fractional") treatments"

Let me google that for you

The same spiel is repeated over and over, as far back as mid-2011, as recent as yesterday. A word changed here and there, but otherwise identical.

Clean that lot up, would you David - They all say they will double my money.


Some interesting links in among that lot if anyone's feeling click-happy. Mostly small-fry though, and a few BB sign-up links are already dead.

Originally Posted by Hypanor

There's a common phrase that keeps appearing - "unique contextual targeting technology" and "Fraxel (or "Fractional") treatments"

Let me google that for you

The same spiel is repeated over and over, as far back as mid-2011, as recent as yesterday. A word changed here and there, but otherwise identical.

Clean that lot up, would you David - They all say they will double my money.


Some interesting links in among that lot if anyone's feeling click-happy. Mostly small-fry though, and a few BB sign-up links are already dead.

well spotted, I found 4 and 5 tier link pyramids and linkwheels when I followed that thru, and it all goes back to matey Ben Poulton, who judging by his efforts must be something of a big hitter in banners brokers

he's quite proud of himself and his methods is ben poulton aka BannersBroker

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Originally Posted by Papaponzi

Not an online translator, its been put thru an article spinner, and created as a buffer page for a dodgy backlinking strategy

Now you mention it, I remember reading something about that (was it earlier on this thread?) before, thanks for explaining how it works!

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Means nothing in the scheme of things, but I wonder why David 'The Enforcer' Hooker has stopped liking or commenting on his fans posts?
He replied or liked every single one from Aug 21 (as early as the others posts go) up until Dec 11, then not a single reply in over two months now.
Its not like he's never on there, he (or his lackey) is posting status updates (shared motivational drivel) umpteen times a day!

http://www.facebook.com/DavidHookerW...ker?ref=stream

Looks like there's "an" couple of letters missing from that link...

An article describing exactly what Papaponzi said above
Dustin and Tracy - MLM and Internet Secrets Revealed

Dustin and Tracy seem to have given up on Banners Broker, this page below is hidden from their website and can't be found in a search or tag search
Banners Broker - Earn While You Advertise Your Business

Originally Posted by Hypanor

An article describing exactly what Papaponzi said above
Dustin and Tracy - MLM and Internet Secrets Revealed

Dustin and Tracy seem to have given up on Banners Broker, this page below is hidden from their website and can't be found in a search or tag search
Banners Broker - Earn While You Advertise Your Business

Preserved for posterity:

Christopher Kirkham, BB participant since at least Dec 2011
{banners broker v2|Banners Broker - How To Adverti | Just another WordPress.com site

And still active with a 'Banners Broker' titled Facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/chris.kirkham.161

another self appointed guru

BANNERS BROKER INTERNATIONAL

it's too much of a read, but scroll down to the bottom for the comments! Also did we know about Eddie Garcia who looks after the US?

Eddie Garcia | LinkedIn

Originally Posted by Hypanor

This one is just weird - Presumably trying to generate some organic traffic so his yellow panel will cap in about 7 years!

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That was painful to read, and felt sorry for the person. Either a bad translator or English is second language. Makes you wonder how anyone would even consider joining BB, and especially under this person after reading it.

When Zeek was closed down, did any of the 'affiliates' get any money back?

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Just look at the defensive body language with these guys. They genuinely look like they are afraid the crowd might rush them for a refund!

You could be forgiven for thinking they were....Oh wait, they ARE gangsters.

A nice picture of Stokesy a bodyguard and some other bloke

Do Banners Broker allow stokes to use their logo all over his blog?

After all he is at pains to point out that he is an "Affiliate of Banners Broker International, not an Official Representative"
Banners Broker Update and summary of the 3 days at the Reebok Stadium in Bolton | Mark Stokes





Banners Broker World tour In Manchester UPDATE V2.9 Notes




Banners Broker Update and summary of the 3 days at the Reebok Stadium in Bolton

Affiliate of Banners Broker International, not an Official Representative
What a fantastic event it was in Manchester!! it was my 3rd tour following Portugal in July 2012, and then Dublin November 2012.I have to say this was the most informative of them all.
I’m looking forward to seeing all the new 2.9v changes Implemented very soon.
It was very obvious to me Chris Smith (founder) and Raj Dixit (CEO Stellapoint) have every intention of building a business model that will be here for many years to come.
Raj Dixit said on stage he wanted to “build a sustainable business we can all be proud of and hand down to our children and generations to come”
David Hooker chief of Compliance and Business development also said Banners Broker had signed a 10 year lease on the offices in manchester, and are looking to employ over 20 full time staff to be the support for the whole of Europe…
The Gala dinner was great and was so good to meet so many like minded Entrepreneurs all making money in the same business…
….I even had chance to meet Chris Smith again


Gale dinner evening with over 800 people ready to eat dance and be merry…


Here are my notes from the 3 days

Banners Broker world

1. To make a withdrawal you must take in to account your monthly commitment first and the difference betweent that and you balance is all you can withdraw. Same applies to transfer of panels and packages to direct referrals. Account must have enough funds to cover monthly commitments
2. You will only be able to quality a certain % of panels with traffic pack traffic before you have to qualify a certain % with traffic from the other traffic banks (organic, sales or incentive). Details yet to be worked out. Watch out or more details. Those who have purchased loads of traffic packs before the ratios of traffic pack to other sales credits are determined, there will be a way to reduce the number of packs to even the balance on the restrictions on using traffic pack traffic.
3. The max withdrawal in a calendar year without restrictions is $500,000. Any amounts beyond that would require 50% direct sales so your maximum withdrawal in a year is $500k plus two times the value of your direct sales.
4. once you have 10 panels of any one colour you have to have 10% of your panels set to 100% so every 10th panel you qualify should be set at 100%. Say if you have 20 qualified yellows 2 will have to be set at 100%.
5. For new accounts, for your complementary package to complete, you must have an active campaign running. For all other accounts you’ll need to have active campaigns for your qualified panels to earn revenue. You must use your impressions. The reason is there are thousands of affiliates with loads of impressions sat there not doing anything and they are worth traffic so you need to use them either in the blind network or in the choice network to get organic traffic .
The very strong message in all the changes is to build a business that will be here to stay. Changes will begin Immediately go through to early April.Note the annual withdrawal limit started on 1st March but backdated to Jan.
The current delay in payouts was explained in detail but is expected to improve in coming days.
Charges for contacting support have now been activated and will apply depending on your account type.
Other changes include:
From 1 March, Advertising coordinator services will only run for 6 months from signup to allow new members to learn the business. After that every affiliate is expected to manage their own accounts. Arrangements for this service for Existing affiliates will be terminated from 1 August without any cancellation fee.
Withdrawals for company accounts will be done through STP. Put a support ticket in with the business account details and the STP option will be activated.
Banners Broker World Tour Niagara falls Incentive

A new blue boosted panel “the Mercedes panel” Will be created as a promotion to the Niagra annual convention. This will cost $180 and will be in with a chance of winning a Mercedes at the event. Only condition will be that you must attend the convention – dates are mid to end July – details to be confirmed in the next two weeks or so
At this annual convention, the new BB millionaires will be awarded their gold BB millionaire rings. This will be for accounts that hit the $1M total earnings mark by April this year.
The new UK General Manager was introduced, she is from Stella Point in Canada. The office is due to open next week …
if you want more updates and more training go here www.twiceyamoney.com
Regards
Mark Stokes

Yearly withdrawals are limited to $500,000? Well I was going to join but in that case forget it.

What is with these scammers and the pointy-finger thing? Is this something they learn in day one of scam school? "when greeting each other, be sure to point the fake finger gun thingy at your scam comrade".

Nice room full of old people there in Bolton. Just what the doctor ordered.

One of the good folk at MMG has this to say, and I think it's a pretty good summary...

"Does anyone not agree that BB is effectively dead at this point?

I'm just disappointed that it didn't end in a bang, instead of just wheezing and gasping its way into the grave, as it is right now.

I'm going to predict that their recent Bolton event will be the last, that they will probably rope in a couple dozen unsuspecting pensioners from that meeting, then after that they will make one more "programming change" to effectively make it even more impossible for people to get any money out. Raj has already changed his name and is slinking into the shadows. Chris never really existed. David Hooker will disappear and claim to have only been an employee, if questioned."

[COLOR="#0000FF"]Whatever anyone may think of people like Simon Stepsys, I don't think the guy is that stupid. From what I've read, he seems to be a veteran of various schemes. I do wonder if his illness at the weekend was more of the diplomatic type, to take him out of the BB arena in case people started kicking off bigtime about the changes in v2.9? From comments on many sites, people are pretty fed up with these changes as it is just dawning on them what the implications are. It's going to be harder and harder to make money and hence withdraw it. Not the money making venture it first seemed. It's had a good run, some people have no doubt made money - those who got in early enough - but tough luck for the rest, I fear. I reckon that Stepsys and his cronies have enough nous to know when the game is up, and they will soon pop up elsewhere promoting something else.

On a personal level, the silence of my favourite affiliate speaks volumes to me. Not so boastful now, is he? Wonder how long it will take for his little website to disappear?

I bet those offices at Salford Quays never appear anyway - if it was ever seriously planned that they would, which I doubt. The new "buy a panel and win a car" stunt is just plain cheap and tawdry, smacks of desperation if you ask me. Oh there may be a little more life in BB yet, it may stutter on for a few more weeks or even months, I suppose, but in my view, Bolton was its last huzzah before the crew behind it all ride off into the sunset....

And another thing. One of the first affiliates I came across was a young man called Ash Campbell. He had plenty to say about BB, all good. Now when I google "Ash Campbell, Banners Broker", it doesn't come up with anything about BB on his blog any more, and his BB videos on You Tube have gone as well.

Of course, this stuff may well come back. Who knows?

But it seems to me like some people are rushing to distance themselves....

There is one muppet on MMG now trying to convince people that they can still make money from BB but now you have to put in a much larger amount. What a scumbag.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

And another thing. One of the first affiliates I came across was a young man called Ash Campbell. He had plenty to say about BB, all good. Now when I google "Ash Campbell, Banners Broker", it doesn't come up with anything about BB on his blog any more, and his BB videos on You Tube have gone as well.

Of course, this stuff may well come back. Who knows?

But it seems to me like some people are rushing to distance themselves....

Google cache is a wonderful thing

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It worries me that McDonalds would employ someone who wants to make "ends meat"..

Having had a chance to read the last few pages on a computer rather than a phone, I wonder if the beefed up security in Bolton was actually due to people on here and on Finch's blog saying they were going to turn up to the meeting. Otherwise it smacks of the glorious leaders simply being afraid. So they should be.

I am still waiting to hear from my mate if he's managed to make the first big withdrawal. Not looking forward to what's likely to happen next.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

And another thing. One of the first affiliates I came across was a young man called Ash Campbell. He had plenty to say about BB, all good. Now when I google "Ash Campbell, Banners Broker", it doesn't come up with anything about BB on his blog any more, and his BB videos on You Tube have gone as well.

Of course, this stuff may well come back. Who knows?

But it seems to me like some people are rushing to distance themselves....

Thats the same Ash Campbell who lost a fair bit of money in Zeek a little while back. Some idiots never learn do they?

Sorry, couldn't resist it. Here's one of the maunderings from my favourite affiliate's little blog:-

"As I sit at my PC screen looking out on a wet and windy winter day it is a good feeling to be able to operate a business from the comfort of ones desk; a business which grows regardless of the weather, it is growing internationally, and in a market sector which is also growing strongly despite all the economic gloom in the UK, Europse and across the Atlantic. Yes, there is a certain wow factor here, and I am enjoying it."

Wonder if he's still feeling the "wow factor" now, eh? He's been very, very quiet.

And again:-

" Many of us have been in or around the home based business industry for a number of years, and have been down numerous dead ends. But the key is you never stop looking. About 18months ago I almost lost my own belief that the industy could really turn up the goods and it was thanks to my introducer, Kathy, who kept nagging me to get on with it that I eventually dabbed my toe into Banners. And now I believe here is something which is really working, has integrity, and is set for the long term. Thank you, Kathy, for not giving up on me."

Seems like you may have gone down another dead end again, chum.....