This is from a cheerleader known as Misterkailo posting at MMG:
"you guys are just impatient.. I got paid for a Dec 28th withdrawal request like 2 days ago. So a pending withdrawal since Jan 2 is not surprising"
Talk about an apologist and an enabler.
In my case, I am waiting for a debit card withdrawal from January 22nd that was due on February 12th.
There are many in our group still waiting from December even though Mr. Smith assured everyone that all payouts from then had gone out. To where is the big question.
Mark
Misterkailo could be appropriately described as a bottom feeder.
"if they are giving the Banners Broker Mastercard,Banners Broker must be a real company." -BB member.
"A toyota means 1 thing. Extrenal revenue. That is proof."-BB member
According to both MMG and the BB Facts and Updates sites, people are logging in to request a payment and getting an "error" message stating that they do not have a pre-paid BB card, when in fact they do. They are instructed to contact support if this is untrue. It then seems that they are told that this will be escalated to IT to sort out, and then they are left to wait until IT comes back to them. One person reports having waited 6 days to hear back on this issue, which remains unresolved. Other excuses given are that it is a "problem that will be resolved in 24 hours". There's another report of inabaility to log into the Bb system /backoffice/whatever it is called.
Computer problems again, eh? Pesky things, they're a right nuisance.
Some payments seem to be being made, but very late - one person received payment requested on 28th December approx 3 days ago.
Yet it seems that none of these affiliates has questioned how an internet business that claims to be based on a never before tried algorithm is running smoothly without glitches behind the scenes, when we know that the same business that these affiliates are supporting / recruiting and sending more money to, can't arrange a simple method of payment of monies due to the very same affiliates!
I'm not sure of the legalities regarding using two identities when registering companies in the UK, or indeed why one would feel the need to do so, unless for nefarious purposes....
The first address, "119 Northland Circle, L1L 07A" is actually fake/incorrect as there is no such place as "Northland Circle", it's actually "Norland Circle", which Dixit has been using since the days of Kibotec, so you'd think he'd know how to spell it...
The first address, "119 Northland Circle, L1L 07A" is actually fake/incorrect as there is no such place as "Northland Circle", it's actually "Norland Circle", which Dixit has been using since the days of Kibotec, so you'd think he'd know how to spell it...
Yeah, but, you go and try and swear out a complaint, have papers served on "Northland Circle" (especially from outside the U.K.) or even visit in an attempt to get a refund, and see how far you get.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Yeah, but, you go and try and swear out a complaint, have papers served on "Northland Circle" (especially from outside the U.K.) or even visit in an attempt to get a refund, and see how far you get.
Wouldn't make the blindest bit of difference anyway, Dixit has distanced himself from the "real" BB by setting up the Belize/IOM company Banners Broker International. His defence will be that he (and his company Stellar Point nee Banners Broker Limited) too is merely a victim in all of this. When the end comes he'll probably claim to have been left millions out of pocket due to unpaid fees from BB, which will, of course, translate into unpaid wages for the poor suckers employed by him both in "Manchester" and Whitby.
Domain name:
bbdealer.co.uk
Registrant:
JS Solutions
Registrant type:
UK Limited Company, (Company number: 7642098)
Registrant's address:
Holcot
Thistle Down Barn
Sywell
NN6 0BG
United Kingdom
Registrar:
1 & 1 Internet AG [Tag = SCHLUND]
URL: 1&1 Internet - Home or registrar.1und1.de - Home
Relevant dates:
Registered on: 04-Apr-2012
Expiry date: 04-Apr-2014
Last updated: 23-Nov-2012
Js Solutions (UK) Ltd
DIRECTORSHIPS
Mrs Joanne Spencer (born 44 years ago)
Director, Director
20 May 2011 — Present (1 year, 8 months, 24 days)
This lady has been one of the active shills at TalkingBB for much of 2012.
And she seems happy to post her telephone details elsewhere on the net:
well the money moves in a singular direction from victims to criminals and is unlikely to move back.
Even this general statement is not true. The admins take from some and give to others. That's why the ponzi model in particular is so successful. It basically pimps itself.
However, it's not what I asked. How does it move exactly? Which banks, payment processors and credit card providers does it go through? This thread is like two years old. Surely you guys got to know something or have you not bothered to look when it was available?
How do they process payments? Payza, STP, Allied Wallet, anything else? And who is their pre-paid card supplier? This one? Vector Card Services
Yes to all options, vector are their card supplier as a 3rd party . They are allegedly streamlining to mastercard only via vector as their only source of payment. IIRC
Yes to all options, vector are their card supplier as a 3rd party . They are allegedly streamlining to mastercard only via vector as their only source of payment. IIRC
Y'all want to shut this thang down faster than it dies on its own? Start b!tiching to Vector, Payza, STP and the bank BB uses for wires. Good luck :)
Even this general statement is not true. The admins take from some and give to others. That's why the ponzi model in particular is so successful. It basically pimps itself.
However, it's not what I asked. How does it move exactly? Which banks, payment processors and credit card providers does it go through? This thread is like two years old. Surely you guys got to know something or have you not bothered to look when it was available?
my understanding is that they bank off-shore, puchased the premises in Whitby for cash ( $1.6m) and I did raise the money trail as it had to pass some money laundering process when it landed back in Canada to complete the purchase. ( as you know even a cash purchase will require a selling agent and solicitor) However, how do you suggest we get these answers, as like you I do believe that there must be a Canadian bank somewhere in the chain? Mr Stern wasn't going to supply that info.
As a btw, my recruiter, when I asked about the tax implications, told me to get the money out without a tax obligation, you just set yourself up as an off-shore company!
Y'all want to shut this thang down faster than it dies on its own? Start b!tiching to Vector, Payza, STP and the bank BB uses for wires. Good luck :)
with respect Finix, I do believe that numerous posters here, have made contacts with these businesses in addition and have alerted them to BB.
Personally, I had BB discussed for 75 mins on Ireland's most popular radio show and have made my own contacts with relevant anti fraud agencies and have filed official complaints. I can do no more than I can to stop even one joining?
Is there anything that you can suggest we do as I gather you have much more experience than me. This is my first HYIP gig!
I do believe that numerous posters here, have made contacts with these businesses in addition and have alerted them to BB.
What sort of responses did you get from them? Promises to look into it and then nothing? Everyone is happy to get a cut of the profits? Any merchants dropped BB as a result of being informed of its activities?
What sort of responses did you get from them? Promises to look into it and then nothing? Everyone is happy to get a cut of the profits? Any merchants dropped BB as a result of being informed of its activities?
again with respect, we know that some of these companies might play loose with the rules to deal with BB, perhaps at a premium rate ?? How can we possibly know for certain that BB aren't not changing their payment methods because of threats to withdraw for any one or all of these providers as a result of complaints made? I don't believe that this info would be made public to a joe soap though.
I'm sure those who did make approaches would be very happy to fill you in when they / if they, see your post
Get all this stuff together and give to RCMP. They are just as sick and tired of fraud and third parties turning a blind eye to fraud as FBI is.
submitted a complaint to CAFC 2 months ago together with links to here and Finchsells. I don't expect an update from them or indeed that they will ever contact regarding BB again. I can only assume and hope that they are doing their job :)
I can only assume and hope that they are doing their job :)
If they are going to drop the ball on this one, I don't know what are they waiting for. They can get Canadian promoters, ponzi-friendly Canadian payment processors, dirty Canadian banks and most of Canadian HYIP players all in one here.
If they are going to drop the ball on this one, I don't know what are they waiting for. They can get Canadian promoters, ponzi-friendly Canadian payment processors, dirty Canadian banks and most of Canadian HYIP players all in one here.
The bank/payment processor that BBI uses, whilst being Canadian-owned is based in Belize, BBI is IOM-based, neither of which will fall under the jurisdiction of the Canadian police. The argument is going to be that those in Canada (Dixit, Guarini, Hooker, Stern etc) are all victims of "Smith", who will, of course, have "vanished".
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