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    Quote Originally Posted by marsh56 View Post
    This is from a cheerleader known as Misterkailo posting at MMG:

    "you guys are just impatient.. I got paid for a Dec 28th withdrawal request like 2 days ago. So a pending withdrawal since Jan 2 is not surprising"

    Talk about an apologist and an enabler.

    In my case, I am waiting for a debit card withdrawal from January 22nd that was due on February 12th.

    There are many in our group still waiting from December even though Mr. Smith assured everyone that all payouts from then had gone out. To where is the big question.

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    Misterkailo could be appropriately described as a bottom feeder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    According to both MMG and the BB Facts and Updates sites, people are logging in to request a payment and getting an "error" message stating that they do not have a pre-paid BB card, when in fact they do. They are instructed to contact support if this is untrue. It then seems that they are told that this will be escalated to IT to sort out, and then they are left to wait until IT comes back to them. One person reports having waited 6 days to hear back on this issue, which remains unresolved. Other excuses given are that it is a "problem that will be resolved in 24 hours". There's another report of inabaility to log into the Bb system /backoffice/whatever it is called.

    Computer problems again, eh? Pesky things, they're a right nuisance.

    Some payments seem to be being made, but very late - one person received payment requested on 28th December approx 3 days ago.
    Yet it seems that none of these affiliates has questioned how an internet business that claims to be based on a never before tried algorithm is running smoothly without glitches behind the scenes, when we know that the same business that these affiliates are supporting / recruiting and sending more money to, can't arrange a simple method of payment of monies due to the very same affiliates!

    Bangs head on wall .............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theseus View Post
    There are two separate companies -

    Attachment 3071

    You'll notice that Dixit has two separate ID numbers, he also lists different addresses for each ID/company

    Attachment 3072

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    I'm not sure of the legalities regarding using two identities when registering companies in the UK, or indeed why one would feel the need to do so, unless for nefarious purposes....

    The first address, "119 Northland Circle, L1L 07A" is actually fake/incorrect as there is no such place as "Northland Circle", it's actually "Norland Circle", which Dixit has been using since the days of Kibotec, so you'd think he'd know how to spell it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theseus View Post
    The first address, "119 Northland Circle, L1L 07A" is actually fake/incorrect as there is no such place as "Northland Circle", it's actually "Norland Circle", which Dixit has been using since the days of Kibotec, so you'd think he'd know how to spell it...
    Yeah, but, you go and try and swear out a complaint, have papers served on "Northland Circle" (especially from outside the U.K.) or even visit in an attempt to get a refund, and see how far you get.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    From the BB Iceland Facebook page:-

    "BB site will go down for a couple of hours on 19th Feb so BB can do the switch over."

    Switch over? From what to what? No further explanation is offered.

    Or another, erm, excuse for delayed payments.....?

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    How do they process payments? Payza, STP, Allied Wallet, anything else? And who is their pre-paid card supplier? This one? Vector Card Services

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Yeah, but, you go and try and swear out a complaint, have papers served on "Northland Circle" (especially from outside the U.K.) or even visit in an attempt to get a refund, and see how far you get.
    Wouldn't make the blindest bit of difference anyway, Dixit has distanced himself from the "real" BB by setting up the Belize/IOM company Banners Broker International. His defence will be that he (and his company Stellar Point nee Banners Broker Limited) too is merely a victim in all of this. When the end comes he'll probably claim to have been left millions out of pocket due to unpaid fees from BB, which will, of course, translate into unpaid wages for the poor suckers employed by him both in "Manchester" and Whitby.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    Code:
      Domain name:
            bbdealer.co.uk
    
        Registrant:
            JS Solutions
    
        Registrant type:
            UK Limited Company, (Company number: 7642098)
    
        Registrant's address:
            Holcot
            Thistle Down Barn
            Sywell
            NN6 0BG
            United Kingdom
    
        Registrar:
            1 & 1 Internet AG [Tag = SCHLUND]
            URL: 1&1 Internet - Home or registrar.1und1.de - Home
    
        Relevant dates:
            Registered on: 04-Apr-2012
            Expiry date:  04-Apr-2014
            Last updated:  23-Nov-2012
    Js Solutions (UK) Ltd

    DIRECTORSHIPS

    Mrs Joanne Spencer (born 44 years ago)
    Director, Director
    20 May 2011 — Present (1 year, 8 months, 24 days)

    This lady has been one of the active shills at TalkingBB for much of 2012.

    And she seems happy to post her telephone details elsewhere on the net:

    jspencer1.jpg jspencer2.JPG


    Source: http://www.4networking.biz/forum/Vie...page=1#p953866

    This bit makes me laugh: "banners broker does not need to go public to raise capital. Cash rich and self-funding" (is she taking the Pi**?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by man_dan View Post

    becose the profit is made online in USA you must oay tax in USA not in UK once you decide to send money to yourself in UK then it is an incime in le.
    Tax dont work like this. If you are british even unremitted income is taxed in uk. I imagine this will be the scammers answer though.

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    Oh, they have gone private already. :) Tried to open an account to take a look at funding and withdrawal options from the back office:

    For sales related questions, please contact the sales department at (905) 233 2351

    Banners Broker is a private marketplace, signups are by referral only at this time. Please contact your referrer to receive their referral link.
    R.I.P., BB :)

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    The FAQ on BB site mentions something about bankwire w/ds. Do they send/receive wires? That's straight up wire fraud. Who is their bank?

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Come on, investigators. 346 pages of posts, lots of sarcasm, but what have you got on basic money movement facts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finix View Post
    Come on, investigators. 346 pages of posts, lots of sarcasm, but what have you got on basic money movement facts?
    well the money moves in a singular direction from victims to criminals and is unlikely to move back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papaponzi View Post
    well the money moves in a singular direction from victims to criminals and is unlikely to move back.
    Even this general statement is not true. The admins take from some and give to others. That's why the ponzi model in particular is so successful. It basically pimps itself.

    However, it's not what I asked. How does it move exactly? Which banks, payment processors and credit card providers does it go through? This thread is like two years old. Surely you guys got to know something or have you not bothered to look when it was available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finix View Post
    How do they process payments? Payza, STP, Allied Wallet, anything else? And who is their pre-paid card supplier? This one? Vector Card Services
    Yes to all options, vector are their card supplier as a 3rd party . They are allegedly streamlining to mastercard only via vector as their only source of payment. IIRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenda View Post
    Yes to all options, vector are their card supplier as a 3rd party . They are allegedly streamlining to mastercard only via vector as their only source of payment. IIRC
    Y'all want to shut this thang down faster than it dies on its own? Start b!tiching to Vector, Payza, STP and the bank BB uses for wires. Good luck :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finix View Post
    Even this general statement is not true. The admins take from some and give to others. That's why the ponzi model in particular is so successful. It basically pimps itself.

    However, it's not what I asked. How does it move exactly? Which banks, payment processors and credit card providers does it go through? This thread is like two years old. Surely you guys got to know something or have you not bothered to look when it was available?
    my understanding is that they bank off-shore, puchased the premises in Whitby for cash ( $1.6m) and I did raise the money trail as it had to pass some money laundering process when it landed back in Canada to complete the purchase. ( as you know even a cash purchase will require a selling agent and solicitor) However, how do you suggest we get these answers, as like you I do believe that there must be a Canadian bank somewhere in the chain? Mr Stern wasn't going to supply that info.

    As a btw, my recruiter, when I asked about the tax implications, told me to get the money out without a tax obligation, you just set yourself up as an off-shore company!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finix View Post
    Y'all want to shut this thang down faster than it dies on its own? Start b!tiching to Vector, Payza, STP and the bank BB uses for wires. Good luck :)
    with respect Finix, I do believe that numerous posters here, have made contacts with these businesses in addition and have alerted them to BB.

    Personally, I had BB discussed for 75 mins on Ireland's most popular radio show and have made my own contacts with relevant anti fraud agencies and have filed official complaints. I can do no more than I can to stop even one joining?

    Is there anything that you can suggest we do as I gather you have much more experience than me. This is my first HYIP gig!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenda View Post
    However, how do you suggest we get these answers, as like you I do believe that there must be a Canadian bank somewhere in the chain?
    Do they use the same process for withdrawal? They might not bother to obscure the money trail leading back to participants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenda View Post
    I do believe that numerous posters here, have made contacts with these businesses in addition and have alerted them to BB.
    What sort of responses did you get from them? Promises to look into it and then nothing? Everyone is happy to get a cut of the profits? Any merchants dropped BB as a result of being informed of its activities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finix View Post
    What sort of responses did you get from them? Promises to look into it and then nothing? Everyone is happy to get a cut of the profits? Any merchants dropped BB as a result of being informed of its activities?
    again with respect, we know that some of these companies might play loose with the rules to deal with BB, perhaps at a premium rate ?? How can we possibly know for certain that BB aren't not changing their payment methods because of threats to withdraw for any one or all of these providers as a result of complaints made? I don't believe that this info would be made public to a joe soap though.

    I'm sure those who did make approaches would be very happy to fill you in when they / if they, see your post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenda View Post
    Is there anything that you can suggest we do as I gather you have much more experience than me.
    Get all this stuff together and give to RCMP. They are just as sick and tired of fraud and third parties turning a blind eye to fraud as FBI is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finix View Post
    Get all this stuff together and give to RCMP. They are just as sick and tired of fraud and third parties turning a blind eye to fraud as FBI is.
    submitted a complaint to CAFC 2 months ago together with links to here and Finchsells. I don't expect an update from them or indeed that they will ever contact regarding BB again. I can only assume and hope that they are doing their job :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenda View Post
    I can only assume and hope that they are doing their job :)
    If they are going to drop the ball on this one, I don't know what are they waiting for. They can get Canadian promoters, ponzi-friendly Canadian payment processors, dirty Canadian banks and most of Canadian HYIP players all in one here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finix View Post
    If they are going to drop the ball on this one, I don't know what are they waiting for. They can get Canadian promoters, ponzi-friendly Canadian payment processors, dirty Canadian banks and most of Canadian HYIP players all in one here.
    The bank/payment processor that BBI uses, whilst being Canadian-owned is based in Belize, BBI is IOM-based, neither of which will fall under the jurisdiction of the Canadian police. The argument is going to be that those in Canada (Dixit, Guarini, Hooker, Stern etc) are all victims of "Smith", who will, of course, have "vanished".


    Along with a huge pile of cash...

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