Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

They would make more money than from their banner ads if they did. (and I'm not being sarcastic )

Yup - all they would have to do is tie the napkins together and write on them....

Originally Posted by Beacon

I have already apologised for the misunderstanding and explained how I welcome any information and dont tend to get personal. I thought DevaE was making their first (or one of their first ) posts and Im suspicious ( justifiabily so DevaE made about 20 so far) of new posters who suddenly arrive and get all preachy or supports others like Terry just at the same time Terry or somebody else pops up. It is usually an indication of "sockpuppeting" . Occasionally the sock-puppet may oppose the OP and the issue develop into a troll or something yielding a "big win" for the OP. It may also be used to introduce the sock-puppet as a "sleeper" identity intended to infiltrate the RS skeptics.

As has been stated elsewhere "just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you" :)

OK...you've persuaded me...although I aint going to make any puppets from my stinky socks!

If anyone fancies a trip to the BB World Tour stop in Manchester, taking place in...er...Bolton, here's the info that has come through:

Hi here is a quick reminder that during the Banners Broker World Tour there is a Gala Dinner on Saturday 23rd February and tickets for this MUST BE PURCHASED BEFORE 10th FEBRUARY. This is to allow for the correct quantity of food to be ordered. (My comment - what sort of professional events venue needs two weeks notice for the food quantity)

Here are a few details about the Gala Dinner.

Tickets are currently on sale for £45 and you will find the link to purchase in your back office or by going to BBtour

The event will start at 7.30pm and it is not a black tie event but smart attire required (Not jeans). There will be a three course meal with Halal and vegetarian options. A top live band, DJ and dance floor. Bar will be open until 1.00am, Chris Smith will address the attendees and the entire BB exec team & leaders from all over the world will be there.


If this event is anything like the BB Gala Dinner in Ireland (Which was the 2nd largest dinner held in Ireland in 2012 with over 900 guests) it's not to be missed Ireland was fantastic! Manchester is going to be better.Do not miss this!

So hurry and get your tickets booked before it's too late. Tickets will be a sold out soon, please pass this message about the deadline for Gala tickets to all team members who may not be on this mailing list or on the forum Login


Tickets for the 22nd 23rd & 24th are selling fast also! they are still available click on the Events Master link to pay by credit card payment only, on your dashboard ( when you go to order it does just say the 23rd but this is for the 3 days 2days or 1day )


NB: Just to clarify guests can attend FREE to the BB presentation on the evening of Fri 22nd. In Ireland most guests who came to the presentation then booked to go on the 2 day main event. So invite as many guests as possible


These seats are going fast it's looking like we will beat Irelands attendance so book your place now! Do not leave it too late. Do not miss out there will be lots of disappointments. (My comment - oh how true...disappointments for everybody who invests their money in BB)


Lots of people will tell you me included that after attending these events everyones business exploded massively.



If I could, I'd be almost tempted to along and see what happens.

Originally Posted by DevaEboracum

This John Dawson chap seems to be very successful http://www.facebook.com/john.dawson.921

1st Dec 2012 he'd been in BB 1 year and was earning $10k per month. By 18th January, was earning in excess of $15k per month. Today he's been paid more than $20k.

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Of course I'm sure he's declared everything to HMRC!

Wow - this guys now up to £30k per month. At this growth rate he'll be able to single handedly prevent the country going into a triple dip recession.

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Originally Posted by man_dan

Well it may take more than few weeks as they know what they are doing.
I am sure they are trying, doing everything to save the compay as well. But it may be very hard to do so.

BB will be around bit more as they are still getting people involved non-english speaking countries.

No they are not trying to "SAVE" the company. What they are doing is seeing how much more money they can steal before they run with the money. It is just an "ILLUSION" they are trying to "SAVE" the company.

There was a TV program on the history channel this evening called scammers that profiled known scams. I watched it in hopes of them bringing up broke Banners (and their admins and pimps ) but it was made before they started this scam. Oh, Well, perhaps next time.

Here's another one for your SWAT team Terry!
$55 into 'almost $1000' in 105 days - why aren't JP Morgan investing in this? Oh that's right, still busy sorting out that whole Madoff thing.

Banners Broker Egypt: Day 105 Review - Not so far from a 1000$

Note the 75 day progress panel on the right too, in that article he says "The investment capital has doubled 10 times so far with a 1000% growth from $40 to $400 in 75 days"

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Originally Posted by Brenda

Wonder why the purchase of the tickets for the gala dinner is in euro and being handled by a company based in Limerick? Why would a UK company not have been used for this purpose?

Maybe because KFC in Manchester don't deliver.....

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Note the 75 day progress panel on the right too, in that article he says "The investment capital has doubled 10 times so far with a 1000% growth from $40 to $400 in 75 days"

The thing that gets me with figures like this, is that IF the affiliates income is derived off traffic, then for every affiliate showing such exponential growth on their panels means there must be a corresponding growth in banners and visitors to said banners. If its not due to growth, then that traffic (and the banners to direct it to) has to be taken from an existing traffic director (and advertising broker).

Freezing my bloody nuts off ... Just thanking you guys for a great laugh....

don't give up lol

Originally Posted by okosh

Maybe because KFC in Manchester don't deliver.....

KFC probably do deliver, they just don't accept payment in panels

If this has already been posted, I apologise (found it on the Facebook BB Ponzi page)

The Banners Broker Scam - Rare Honest Review - Page 4 - Money Making Experts

TDS speaks the truth once again!!

From an affiliate's website - all the stuff about meetings in Exeter and Bristol has vanished, to be replaced with this:-

WE ARE EXPECTING A NEW SERIES OF MEETING DATES TO BE SET ACROSS THE THE UNITED KINGDOM ONCE THE NEW UK HEAD OFFICE IN MANCHESTER BECOMES OPERATIONAL ON
25th FEBRUARY.
More information as soon as it comes in.

I wonder if they've been told to stop advertising so widely in case disgruntled members turn up to shout the odds? Just speculating here....

Hmmnnnn,

putting a whole pile of HYIP ponzi fraudsters in one room and widely advertising the fact they're going to be there at a specific date and time doesn't sound like the smartest of ideas to me.

Originally Posted by Hypanor

The thing that gets me with figures like this, is that IF the affiliates income is derived off traffic, then for every affiliate showing such exponential growth on their panels means there must be a corresponding growth in banners and visitors to said banners. If its not due to growth, then that traffic (and the banners to direct it to) has to be taken from an existing traffic director (and advertising broker).

Essentially, the more slices of the cake the bigger everyone's slice is.



Makes perfect sense to me.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Hmmnnnn,

putting a whole pile of HYIP ponzi fraudsters in one room and widely advertising the fact they're going to be there at a specific date and time doesn't sound like the smartest of ideas to me.

I wonder how many of the extra 100 people that Stokes boasted turned up at the last events were actually journalists or from law enforcement?

Originally Posted by Theseus

I wonder how many of the extra 100 people that Stokes boasted turned up at the last events were actually journalists or from law enforcement?

100 seems to be a magic number to BB, doesn't it? 100 at the Bristol meeting.....100 at Mark Stokes's meeting......new offices in Manchester with a meeting room with a capacity for 100 people.....

Reminds me of Dr Evil (was it?) in the Austin Powers film who was going to get ONE MILLION DOLLARS! In the same way, BB meetings attract ONE HUNDRED PEOPLE! Whoopee!

Perhaps 100 is the only number they can think of?

Still no sign of BB's very own Don Draper – Paul McCarthy. According to Banners Broker "Facts" And Updates on FB he was due to give a webinar on Thursday "Listen to Paul McCarthy webinar today, Excellent presentation". I think he is scheduled for this every Thursday, but it's unclear whether the most recent ones happened? The only webinar with him on YouTube is quite old. It's the one where he keeps repeating "ad-pub combo" like a magpie that has been taught a phrase, only with less conviction and authority than a magpie.

The new leading Irish affiliate appears to be the unprepossessing Stephen O'Brien inasmuch as he has a couple of Twitter 'bots pushing his Empower Network page. (Every time I see "Empower Network", for some reason I'm reminded of "embiggen", the made-up word in Springfield's motto in The Simpsons.) Mr nO'Brain has no qualms about using a child in his profile picture, which is just a little creepy. However, even he has moved on and is now promoting Money without the.... This is because "there are many success stories but we do not hear much about those that are still stuck in the trenches, grinding daily, following the training, blogging daily, listening to the audios etc. but yet still waiting for that 1st landmark sale, that first $25 affiliate commission". Which kind of describes the vast majority of BB affiliates – especially any new signings.

My favourite affiliate, being a good boy who always does what BB tells him, has dutifully replaced the BB logs with his own lilttle logos and slogans. I especially like this one:-

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There certainly is a difference with BB.......

Originally Posted by AshKen1

If this has already been posted, I apologise (found it on the Facebook BB Ponzi page)

The Banners Broker Scam - Rare Honest Review - Page 4 - Money Making Experts

TDS speaks the truth once again!!

Terry neatly sidesteps letting 'MME Alan' know how deep he is in Banners Broker!
Phil, I see your a member there, perhaps you could enlighten Alan as to who TDStern - it appears he is unaware...

Originally Posted by Justin Casey

...the unprepossessing Stephen O'Brien...

Your Stephen O'Brien mentions a Kimberley Tilley, who quite clearly says:

How I Made $43,160 Doing Nothing
I know that’s a pretty bold claim…

…but I am saying it because it’s true.

In fact the company slogan reads…

‘IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT MAKE MONEY.’


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I'm sure that everyone will be relieved to hear that Terry Stern has finally made an on-line friend. After his treatment by the naughty boys and girls on RealScam, the guilt was weighing heavily on me. I was delighted to see that he found a kindred spirit in Portuguese "business" blogger Nuno Escrevente. In an item catchily titled Is Banners Broker a fraud?, Tel boy ("an executive officer of Stellar Point Corp. company. responsible for support & training & compliance & business development of Banners Broker International") regurgitates the nonsense he was spewing up here and on Finch Sells. At least, I presume it's the same. I didn't read that much of it at the time. Something about the tone of his posts made me hear them in a sniveling, whiney voice, which was most unpleasant. It hasn't improved by being translated into Portuguese and back again.

There are several complaints in the Comments section which Nuno deals with unconvincingly. His schtick is to sign off with "Hug", which may be a glitch in Google translate because it obviously should read "Mug". Still, Tel and Nuno is certainly a meeting of equal intellects.

$43,160 in "unfinished panels"

IOW, she has nothing but lots of numbers on her screen.

$43,160 in "unfinished panels" plus 50cents STILL won't buy her a decent cup of coffee.

Originally Posted by Justin Casey

I'm sure that everyone will be relieved to hear that Terry Stern has finally made an on-line friend. After his treatment by the naughty boys and girls on RealScam, the guilt was weighing heavily on me. I was delighted to see that he found a kindred spirit in Portuguese "business" blogger Nuno Escrevente. In an item catchily titled Is Banners Broker a fraud?, Tel boy ("an executive officer of Stellar Point Corp. company. responsible for support & training & compliance & business development of Banners Broker International") regurgitates the nonsense he was spewing up here and on Finch Sells. At least, I presume it's the same. I didn't read that much of it at the time. Something about the tone of his posts made me hear it in a sniveling, whiney voice, which was most unpleasant. It hasn't improved by being translated into Portuguese and back again.

There are several complaints in the Comments section which Nuno deals with unconvincingly. His schtick is to sign off with "Hug", which may be a glitch in Google translate because it obviously should read "Mug". Still, Tel and Nuno is certainly a meeting of equal intellects.

Originally Posted by Justin Casey

I'm sure that everyone will be relieved to hear that Terry Stern has finally made an on-line friend. After his treatment by the naughty boys and girls on RealScam, the guilt was weighing heavily on me. I was delighted to see that he found a kindred spirit in Portuguese "business" blogger Nuno Escrevente. In an item catchily titled Is Banners Broker a fraud?, Tel boy ("an executive officer of Stellar Point Corp. company. responsible for support & training & compliance & business development of Banners Broker International") regurgitates the nonsense he was spewing up here and on Finch Sells. At least, I presume it's the same. I didn't read that much of it at the time. Something about the tone of his posts made me hear it in a sniveling, whiney voice, which was most unpleasant. It hasn't improved by being translated into Portuguese and back again.

There are several complaints in the Comments section which Nuno deals with unconvincingly. His schtick is to sign off with "Hug", which may be a glitch in Google translate because it obviously should read "Mug". Still, Tel and Nuno is certainly a meeting of equal intellects.

I like Jose's description - "It's a long article, very bad, full of snake oil and cheating!"

And Joao Carlos - been in it for a year, and warning people not to get involved now.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

If this has already been posted, I apologise (found it on the Facebook BB Ponzi page)

The Banners Broker Scam - Rare Honest Review - Page 4 - Money Making Experts

TDS speaks the truth once again!!

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Over two decades experience? You'd have thought it would have been merited a mention in his resumé then.....