Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Hypanor

And this - so affiliates aren't even allowed to use the logo of the 'business' that they are supposed to represent!

Continuing in the same fashion, Banners Broker today introduced the Banners Broker "no logo" cola drink

This witch hunt has gone on long enough.

I'm not speaking to you now as the PR person for Stellar Point, I'm speaking at Terry Stern the individual.

You people don't consider the reprocussions of your actions.

Thanks to your posting my home address, my picture and a picture of my home, I find out that there have been 3 people already that have come by and harassed my neighbours looking for information about me and spreading rumors about the company I work for. My girlfriend having learned this is so worried for her and her daughte that she will not stay in the house until such time as this has been resolved, in fact I just had to drive her to her parents house because some asshole woke us up to verify that I am "That" Terry Stern working for Stellar Point. This is what your objective is?

Posting your lies wasn't enough, now you have to involve people's families, neighbours and friends with your bullshit to the point where thier personal lives are now affected by it. In 20 years in working with MLM and Direct sales companies I've never had this happen, now all of the sudden it's happening because some people have chips on their shoulders and nothing else.

You haven't a single shred of evidence to support any of your claims, but you feel that you're entitled to share every bit of personal information you can dig up without any regard to who may see it or how it may be used. You're going to keep badgering anyone surrounding the company thinking you're doing everyone a service, but instead what you're doing is a form of terrorism. You're going to keep attacking without any regard for what might or might not be the truth until you've done so much damage the company has to close down or the officers leave. You don't care how it happens, you feel you're all entitled to do whatever you want until it happens. Then you'll stand back and pat yourselves on the back claiming victory over another 'ponzi' or 'scam' even though you've never proven a damn thing, you just damaged a company and everyone associated with it because you "thought" you had a reason to. Tell my girlfriend's 8 year old daughter why she had to be woken up by some asshat at 12:30 am and be exposed to them asking about who lives at this address, and where they work all because a bunch of amateurs hiding behind aliases on a website forum thought it was a good idea to post the information on where I live online for anyone with an axe to grind to see. Explain to her why she's scared now someone is going to hurt her.

If you want to prove you're better than the companies you make claims against, take my personal information off this site immediately. Remove the pictures of my house, my address, and anything else that's not relevant to Banners Broker. You have no right to expose me or my family in this way, and I'm surprised that the Administrators of this site weren't bright enough to catch it since I know they view this particular forum regularly. In most countries what you're doing is illegal unless you're in law enforcement...which none of you are.

If this is how you're going to react in light of not being able to manipulate the facts into something resembling an argument, then this site has outlived its usefulness and needs to be shut down.

If you really are concerned for those who may be taken in by ponzi schemes and scam companies, then how about verifying that you're dealing with one first through actual evidence before subjecting them to your attacks....something none of you has done, yet now my family has to pay for your gross ignorance.

And you wonder why companies won't release certain information to you or answer your questions. It's because you abuse what you do get to the point of causing problems for everyone, whether they're involved or not.

Admins, please have my personal information removed from this site immediately.

Go away, you silly little man.

Better still, go to someone in a position of authority and prove to THEM how "legal" a company which publicly offers to double peoples' money over and over is, or the legality of a company which considers buying non existent "panels" as being "work"

Any information on this site has been REpublished here.

It's information which YOU put in the public domain, not REALSCAM.com

It's information which YOU associated with a HYIP ponzi fraud, not REALSCAM.com

The times are a changin'.

No internet is no longer a safe haven for individuals to play their HYIP money games with impunity and under the radar.

YOU are promoting a fraudulent operation and YOU are accepting money for doing so.

If I was Terry Stern I would be more worried about the Police visiting his house.
Also Terry with your Ponzi scheme you are affecting the personal life of thousands of victims. This is the kind of stuff that happens if you engage in criminal activities. Yes a very silly man indeed.

In 20 years in working with MLM and Direct sales companies I've never had this happen, now all of the sudden it's happening because some people have chips on their shoulders and nothing else.

Gee, Terry, have we met in person ???

Have we discussed this over a coffee or lunch at some point ???

If not, how did you come to the conclusion "it's happening because some people have chips on their shoulders" ???

Maybe in your "20 years in working with MLM and Direct sales companies" you've never encountered or been the spokesperson for a fraudulent HYIP ponzi, who knows ??

YOU are soliciting members for Banners Broker and YOU are asking them to send money based on what YOU say.

The phrase "knew or should have known" comes to mind when I read your protestations.

If YOU haven't personally verified what you've been told is true, then YOU can't hide behind "I'm only a spokesperson" when other peoples' money is involved.

What you're doing is no longer spin doctoring, it's downright criminal lying.

if only mr stern would give the same warning to martin wilde after he left that disgusting message on Jason's phone

Originally Posted by Poyol

I've got a new analytics service for my blog - can a few of you go to it for me.

Thanks

Jason

Went there. Thanks for answering my question.

Originally Posted by DevaEboracum

This John Dawson chap seems to be very successful http://www.facebook.com/john.dawson.921

1st Dec 2012 he'd been in BB 1 year and was earning $10k per month. By 18th January, was earning in excess of $15k per month. Today he's been paid more than $20k.

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Of course I'm sure he's declared everything to HMRC!

The tax situation is a particular weakness of this type of scam. To try to get away from very tight regulation they have to market it as a "business" and not an investment. The only problem is business taxes (in most countries) are based on earnings whether or not they have been received at the year end (whereas investments are usually taxed when received). BB have the problem of persuading people to keep money in when if it was a real business they would have tax bills that outweighed the money thay had taken out. BB have explained this on forums by telling people the tax situation is complex (it isn't) and that they should await the results of discussions with HMRC (which aren't happening).

Can anyone recall when exactly terrys address and picture of his house was posted here? I don't remember seeing it.

Originally Posted by Brenda

those at the top and middle know this, but the bottom level, the ones who get nothing are in the main, ignorant of these scams and can be easily sold to by the slick talk of these snake oil salesmen/ woman. It is the bottom levels who lose and whom I refer to in my mail. I don't understand how the same scammers can continually pooh on their own doorsteps with apparent immunity? Where are all these angry people?

This might be very logical explanation.I think however, the question here is - what all those angry people want on internet?Do they know what kind of business they would LIKE to do or they just want to make some money?If you do not have clear idea what is your field where you could give yourself and do something you LOVE and LIKE but just have a wish to make money - you will never make a cent or you will but with lot of luck.What makes those people victims is pure lack
of ideas,aims and knowledge how to reach the aims.Being forced to follow just idea of being rich,they are not able to make any deeper scann of anything but join the first who promisses mountains and oceans...said that...do such BB members LIKE,LOVE the advertising business - no....do they want to make business?...no...do they know what advertising business is?...no...do they want to become rich?...yes

http://www.facebook.com/#!/bannersbrokernetwork

Phone Support
Due to the high volume of calls and questions we receive, we need to regulate the amount of support each of our affiliates receives in order to better serve you.

Premium affiliates are allowed one call and question free of charge
The rate to Standard affiliates is $5.00 per question
During each phone call or chat, we will answer one question
Thank you for your co-operation in this matter

Perhaps there wouldn't be so many phone calls if they paid people and stopped seizing accounts?

Not so many pimps about recently. The ones that I have seen have mellowed a bit and are trying to push it as a "gamble" rather than a sure thing. This is often indicative of preparing for the end.

On an unrelated note- don't often laugh at swear word postings but Jason's "copyright" description of his friend Mr Wilde made me laugh for minutes. I don't personally know him but it seems very apt.

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Can anyone recall when exactly terrys address and picture of his house was posted here? I don't remember seeing it.

Toronto Penitentiary. Oh sorry that's his next address.

Neither do I, I do recall rs posters suggesting mr stern be given a chance to speak and that HIS personal details weren't relevant as what bb does is not him as he isn't promoting it, if fact if we are all honest he definitely has not promoted bb but demoted it very well, thanks again terry love your work so far :-) xxx

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Can anyone recall when exactly terrys address and picture of his house was posted here? I don't remember seeing it.

Mr. Stern, I am sorry to hear of your predicament. I would suggest that you contact the appropriate authorities straight away. If what you say is true I am sure they will be able to help you.

Originally Posted by Hypanor

http://www.facebook.com/#!/bannersbrokernetwork

Phone Support
Due to the high volume of calls and questions we receive, we need to regulate the amount of support each of our affiliates receives in order to better serve you.

Premium affiliates are allowed one call and question free of charge
The rate to Standard affiliates is $5.00 per question
During each phone call or chat, we will answer one question
Thank you for your co-operation in this matter

Perhaps there wouldn't be so many phone calls if they paid people and stopped seizing accounts?

What? but bb promised better service a late last year, they then hired hundreds of extra staff to ensure payments and 'tickets' were all processed with the efficiency of a multi-million dollar company.....seem to recall that good ol' google comparison being used........

only 1 question each....am thinking you don't want to make any small talk and ask whether they having a good day!!sorry that's your question, goodbye and thanks for calling bb international...beep....beep....beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

can bb report how many calls are "high volume", how many calls can even 100 staff handle in a day? are all 300,000 affiliates calling all 100 staff, or 3000 calls a day terry?

Originally Posted by Hypanor

During each phone call or chat, we will answer one question

"Hello, is this Banners Broker support?"
"Yes, that'll be $5 thanks" - Click.
"Doh"

"Hello support, I was wondering if you might be able to help me with my account"
"Yes we can. That'll be $5 thanks" - Click.
"Doh"

Monty Python could have done a great sketch on this, it would have rivalled the Arguments Clinic one.

good advice noname999, terrible to involve families in anything like a rotten pyramid scheme all the horrible actions of some people as a consequence of differing opinions regarding how some businesses operate.....

for the sake of your lovely family terry please invite your local authority, probably best you involve the police in Canada, and your employer.................. stellar point i believe......................... has a contractual obligation to you personally for this horrible violation of your personal life due to their 'client company' and ought to involve their own legal team and bannersbroker in the criminal investigation.........let me know if there is anything i can do to help you and the police find these people that intruded on your home so late at night, completely agree this type of thing should NEVER happen

Originally Posted by noname999

Mr. Stern, I am sorry to hear of your predicament. I would suggest that you contact the appropriate authorities straight away. If what you say is true I am sure they will be able to help you.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Roger Stockburgler has posted on the Mirror Blog.

Banners Broker accused of being Ponzi scheme - Investigations

Wow! I did't realise what a nasty bunch you lot are.

Or have we found the culprit of the Malware warnings?


ROGER SAID:What really concerns me about realscam.com is the people there crawl through the net and try to discredit and ruin the reputations of anybody they see to be affiliated with Banners Broker.
I joined Banners Broker back in August last year, firstly to help out a good friend, secondly the idea of being able to build an on-line revenue stream without having to recruit anybody appealed to me, so my plan was to try to prove this to the rest of the world by remaining passive (without any recruiting) for the first 9-12 months, and subsequently I refrained from any promoting aside from mentioning in my Facebook profile that I was an affiliate for Banners Broker. No recruiting, no asking people to sign up, just mentioning that I was an affiliate and that's that.
Somebody at realscam.com got a whiff of this and set up fake user profiles on realscam.com, being 'waverider' and "JackO'Neill" due to the fact that I make it very public with lots of GoPro camera footage of my surfing action, and I loved the TV series "Stargate", they put up posts which were very vocal in the pro-BB camp, and then attempting to tell everybody that 'waverider' and 'jackoneill' were me, which is absolutely false. I have never made any public comment about Banners Broker, I have never made any comment in realscam.com as I only recently, a few weeks ago, registered on the site, not to make any comments within the blog, but to send a private message to a couple of users there.
They made up a fake profile for a former business partner called 'supergranny' and put up some hard-hitting posts 'on her behalf' to mislead visitors to the site in exactly the same way they are attempting to discredit me, with one difference, the 'supergranny' is actively promoting Banners Broker, complete with promotional Youtube video, I have never done any promotional work aside from posting a short video announcing that I had received my card, but no drive to attract people to my page, like Simon Stepsys for example.
Realscam.com has even gone as far as attempting to plant a keylogger virus onto the computers of visitors and have been doing this for several months until recently when google started listing the site as a malware danger, and a couple of days ago they removed the offending code from their site and requested google to re-evaluate this. Beware, we're dealing with very nasty people there, make just the slightest remark that you have (or had) any dealings with the Banners Broker company, and if these people get a whiff that you mention anywhere in cyberspace that you're an affiliate, whether active or not, they will hunt you down and do all in their power to destroy your reputation and business.

February 5, 2013 10:15 AM

Roger you are so full of lies.

I have never made any public comment about Banners Broker, I have never made any comment in realscam.com as I only recently, a few weeks ago, registered on the site, not to make any comments within the blog, but to send a private message to a couple of users there

You made quite a few public comments before being 'named' as Roger, starting with this one.
I invite readers to read on from that post to ascertain Rogers true character. I particularly liked the video Rog made of his mate smoking a moth through a bong!

Are you now denying Activeone was you?

[QUOTE=tdstern;44761]This witch hunt has gone on long enough.

If you really are concerned for those who may be taken in by ponzi schemes and scam companies, then how about verifying that you're dealing with one first through actual evidence before subjecting them to your attacks....something none of you has done, yet now my family has to pay for your gross ignorance.
QUOTE]

Thanks Terry. Are you offering to put us out of our ignorance by answering Finch's questions or Nonames? Perhaps your refusal to answer questions earlier is partly to blame for our ignorance. Its a bit rich to tell us to get facts, after you " the spokesman" have answered "No Comment" to everything. Did it upset your girlfriend when she found out what you do for a living?

Originally Posted by Finix

BB is one of their clients, they process payments for many clients. Before you go any further - just because they don't discriminate against clients based on moral considerations doesn't mean there is a conspiracy here.

Oh Finix please....

STP was born from a scam and created so that Stella and Marc could get a cut from every transaction(deposits and withdraws) in every scam.....
They are as complicit to the crime as the ponzi scam admins are....

Originally Posted by tdstern

This witch hunt has gone on long enough.

I'm not speaking to you now as the PR person for Stellar Point, I'm speaking at Terry Stern the individual.

You people don't consider the reprocussions of your actions.

Thanks to your posting my home address, my picture and a picture of my home, I find out that there have been 3 people already that have come by and harassed my neighbours looking for information about me and spreading rumors about the company I work for. My girlfriend having learned this is so worried for her and her daughte that she will not stay in the house until such time as this has been resolved, in fact I just had to drive her to her parents house because some asshole woke us up to verify that I am "That" Terry Stern working for Stellar Point. This is what your objective is?

Posting your lies wasn't enough, now you have to involve people's families, neighbours and friends with your bullshit to the point where thier personal lives are now affected by it. In 20 years in working with MLM and Direct sales companies I've never had this happen, now all of the sudden it's happening because some people have chips on their shoulders and nothing else.

You should have thought of that b4 you chose to be head shill for an illegal ponzi scheme.....You made your bed now sleep in it...

Admins, please have my personal information removed from this site immediately

No way that will ever happen....

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Can anyone recall when exactly terrys address and picture of his house was posted here? I don't remember seeing it.

Lets have it posted here in this thread now so that we make sure everyone sees it.....

If anyone has it handy and don't wanna post it then PM it to me and I'll post it....

Originally Posted by tdstern

This witch hunt has gone on long enough.

I'm not speaking to you now as the PR person for Stellar Point, I'm speaking at Terry Stern the individual.

...

Admins, please have my personal information removed from this site immediately.

Hello Mr. Terry Stern.

I'm no Admin, but I may be able to help with your concerns of personal details regarding Realscam.com, or pass them on to someone who can.

Effective February 7th 2013

The 'individual' standard fee is $5 for one question or concern. You can make payment via Payza. Sorry, I don't accept Paypal, as their fees are too high. Processing time is minimum 90 days for me to address your concern. Alternatively, you can email your concern to fax@noonewilleverreadthisshit.com.

Unknown_S holds the right to deny any individual concern request submitted.

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found this new facebook site for nz/australia can someone please upload the pictures of bb terminology, particularly "bb terminology 3"
RESELLER - A person that runs BB in a particular country, Ian driscoll is the uk's reseller