Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Justin Casey

I don't think that this has been posted – apologies if it has.

Not actually a "tour"

My favourite quote is from Steve Bird at 7:17: "They've invested in a beautiful kitchen facility so everybody gets a good lunch."

If that doesn't refudiate (as Ms Palin might say) the dreamstealers, then nothing will. Look out McDonalds, you're next - after Google obviously.

just wondered who the interviewees were, not a very 'international ' mix , hmmmm

Ghobril - ex Numis, there is that connection again, Linkedin shows he has not held a job for up to a year since '95, oh and he operates from New York!!! BB USA, and they said it couldn't be done!
Baker - seems to be a myth debunker for BB, mentioned here before on pg 181 here is his video
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Gignac - seems quite unknown, fews 'likes' for BB here and there but doesn't seem to be a player
Broadfoot - ditto for Gignac but seems lovely and soooooo happy to be there lol
Bird - and same again, nothing turns up at a quick glance

seems to have been recorded by Garth Whitney whose other Oscars nominated youtube video is here, oh and btw, I couldn't listen, watched it on mute but it does give a clear image of some of the bigger BB players around the place and confirms who they are.

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Originally Posted by Hypanor

Just doing the Facebook rounds, and oh look - Terry is on my favourite page!

And he says:

If BBI is going to start pursuing legal action, it won't take long before people know about it, until then and until I feel it's necessary, I'm going to address as much of the misinformation being put out there as I can.

Banners Broker said they were taking action against
Here is what they stated earlier
Note the date and the bit in bold

Further to the Banners Broker International Leadership Webinar of Wednesday, June 20, 2012 this is to formerly advise all Affiliate Members of the following;


1.Dr. Lieven Van Neste has been terminated as an Independent Affiliate Member and he is NO longer associated or affiliated with Banners Broker International and/or any of its Affiliate Companies in any manner whatsoever.
2.Effective immediately, Dr. Lieven Van Neste is NOT authorized and/or permitted to directly or indirectly make withdrawals from the account of any Banners Broker Affiliate Member.
3.Any BB Affiliate who continues to be associated with or to assist Dr. Van Neste to access accounts and make withdrawals, whether directly or indirectly, will be considered to be in violation of the Policies and Procedures, Terms and Conditions of Banners Broker International. Any such involvement will result in the immediate suspension and/or termination of all rights and privileges of said Affiliates.
4.In the event Banners Broker International discovers that Dr. Lieven Van Neste and/or his associates are accessing accounts, making withdrawals, and/or changing passwords of any Banners Broker Affiliate those accounts will be immediately frozen indefinitely until such time as the owner of the account will be notified and asked to contact Banners Broker International in order to take the freeze off the said account.
5.Banners Broker International has retained the services of a reputable and professional Law Firm in Ireland and they have been instructed to proceed with whatever legal action they deem necessary to enforce the Cease and Desist Order issued to Dr. Lieven Van Neste and which he continues to ignore and defy.
6.Any Affiliate found to be associate with Dr. Lieven Van Neste and assisting him to disrupt, attack or besmirch Banners Broker International and/or its affiliate companies, shareholders, officers, directors, and/or employees in any manner whatsoever may face suspension and/or termination of their rights and privileges as a Banners Broker International Independent Affiliate Member, including but not limited to freezing of their accounts.

These requests will be strictly enforced to the fullest extent of the law and in accordance with the Policies and Procedures, Terms and Conditions of Banners Broker International.

Rajiv Dixit
Chief Operating Officer and Compliance Office

But they were lying then and they are lying now!

They didnt retain any legal firm.
They said the same in Dublin - that they had retained a "crack legal team" to deal with finch and RS and others . No legal team ever materialised. All that materialised was Terry.
It will take long Terry It will take forever and a day because they are lying about it! They haven't retained anyone and therefore "it won't take long before people know about it" is just another lie because or the other option - you believed they were telling the truth but you now freely admit they were lying but you didnt know about them lying? so were you both lying Terry or was it only your employer was lying?

Terry is probably asking for raise, he didn't sign up for it.
Mean lying thru teeth and being regular PR there is huge $ difference.

Originally Posted by NikSam

Terry is probably asking for raise, he didn't sign up for it.
Mean lying thru teeth and being regular PR there is huge $ difference.

Don't think he gets money, he gets paid in red and blank black panels....

Crikey - if ever there was a Freudian slip about panels, that was it.

Just as a matter of interest, I found this character promoting BB as a "straightline downline cycler"

Banners Broker Straightline Downline -

Apologies if the above link does not work, I'm rubbish at that, but you can go to the website ans read for yourself. Mr B.W Jackson is an American, I note, and I thought that Terry Stern said (either here or on Finch's blog) that they did not operate in the USA? Unfortunately the blog entry seems undated, so i suspect it is an old one.....but still plainly visible. Below is a cut and paste, to give a flavour.

Is this the secret of BB's operation, I wonder? It had the big BB logo on....

First, an introduction about Banners Broker Straightline Downline

Banners Broker IS giving away for free, text Ad Spots to all Opt-in members. With Text Ads, you may add up to 10 URLs of the programs you are promoting and we display these links on all of our pages and affiliate sites. We are optimized for Google Indexing, so your links will be part of the viral distribution.
Banners Broker Straightline Downline is the world’s first Straightline Cyler Doubler!

We all know the main advantage of a Straightline Downline… everyone who registers after you are in your downline. However what other admins have not yet figured out, is to keep it going when the straightline gets too long for members to make money. With Banners Broker we took a simple concept and provided a simple solution:

Banners Broker Straightline Downline doesn’t pay you based on the number of people in the downline, we simply double what you bought based on a first come first serve basis. If you bought $20 worth of Banner Panels, you can sell them at double your buying price, with an automatic re-entry. Either take your money out or keep it in to double again and again. Where else can you put in $20 and have it double multiple times to $10,000? No recruiting is necessary, but if you do refer others you will double even faster based on our proprietary perfected doubling system!
First Pay = First Paid

The quicker you BUY your Banners Broker Ads, the quicker you can place them in a pool to be sold to next set of people buying Ads. It is that simple… First to buy will be first to sell and double your money over and over.
How does BANNERSBROKER work?

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2) BANNERS BROKER will automatically SELL your Banner Impressions on your behalf within the Banners Broker Marketplace at DOUBLE the value you paid for it!

3) BANNERS BROKER automatically re-enter half to keep doubling, and you are free to withdraw the rest.

4) Double twice automatically, and to keep doubling we need you to bring eyeballs to the site to satisfy the banner impressions. Therefore for every 2 people you refer, you are entitled to double again!

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Originally Posted by AshKen1

Don't think he gets money, he gets paid in red and blank panels....

Maybe he's building a new house out of them...

Originally Posted by Theseus

Maybe he's building a new house out of them...

Amended post. Makes more sense now, just about. Long week.

I have heard that this is the venue for the world tour in 'Manchester' Whites Address: Whites, De Havilland Way, Bolton, Greater Manchester, BL6 6SF
(Actually in Bolton)

I will try and verify elsewhere but this is from the Q&A update today.

Latest news from Terry Stern's Ponzi Scheme.

Some bloke who's real name we don't know is speaking

Update from Top Scammer Twice Ya Money Guy (No not double, twice it's different don't you know!)

Banners Broker News Update by Founder Chris Smith | Mark Stokes


Friday Q&A UPdate Webinar Notes:
Chris Smith speaking
Updates:
India – good news in reference to payouts in India. We have a new provider that can wrap up the previous bank deposit situation. anyone expeccting bank deposits, you will soon see them in your acccounts. We gave them all info today. Hopefully within one week. Bank option will be removed today as we are replacing it with something else. In a couple weeks time you will have a new method of withdrawal and will be quicker. India is challenging, but we are glad to have a solution.
We are definitely behind but are catching up rapidly with BB Cards, STP, Payza and Bank deposits. You will see activity over the weekend and in the coming week.
We apologize for the delay. No excuses, except that we have alot going on from our side, 2.9 coming out soon. There is no excuse and we apologize very much, and we want to get you paid more quickly in the future.
BB Card now has a separate area for withdrawal. This is part of the new process. We are slightly behind, about a week behind, but we are catching up quickly. February you will see a smooth process of 15 calendar days for Premium and Standard 20 calendar days. It used to be “business day”, 7 and 15 days. Business days if Mon-Friday, so 7 days could be 9-11 calendar days. What we noticed is that we want a more realistic payout time, so now it is 15 Calendar days (Premium) and 20 for Standard. New membership type is Executive and that will be faster payout times.
UK Tour coming shortly. Feb 21st to 24th. to go www.thebbtour.com. We put this together quickly and more will be available soon. Look out for more this afternoon.
World Tours will be a quarterly event throughout the world. We are looking forward to the UK World Tour, please take part in this. David Hooker is there now. Lorenzo has been there scouting out things for the New UK arena. A new Stellar Point office will be opened in the UK. David Hooker is there to make sure we stay strong in the UK and support is strong for the UK.
BB Card update — we just added the REVERSE button. So if you change your mind and want to reverse that, you now can. The reverse option has always been available for all options, in case you change your mind after inputing your withdrawal.
Updates more:
Survey for the new package and panel. It was a landslide for the top 3 choices. The top #1 was PRESTIGE.
(*) PRESTIGE is the new name of the new package and panel!!
No color – we are going with more of a prestigious pattern/design. You will see it when it comes out. It will look very sleek!! Very “prestigious”
Executive Membership: $500/mo
Traffic Boosters discount – $4
Withdrawals – 10 calendar days
Support – Personalized support line for these members.
Our growth rate is rapidly growing. Exciting news — enormous increases in the last week!!! With this comes additional phone calls to support. This has clogged up the lines a bit, so for the Executive Membership you will have a dedicated line.
BB Business Profile Page – I am excited about this, something you can have to promote yourself. A personal paragraph that you can write about yourself – this will be out on the internet and people can respond to your profile. You will basically have your own BB Blog. This will be a heavy promotional tool. Rather than giving people your main BB referral URL, you give them your Blog link. This will be indexed with Google for traffic. You will have the ability to edit and see comments and plaster the net with alot of pages — the more pages we have on the net, the more advertising we can sell. You can promote other things on your page. This will bring revenue in from your personal page.
Executive package will be out soon.
Traffic Packs. 10 or more for new people will automatically be Exevutive. If you currently have 10 there will be grandfather clause for you for a period of time. You will not be forced to upgrade. there will be a reasonable period of time within which to upgrade. Leaders and BB executives with larger accounts will want to upgrade right away, of course
Executive membership does “not” include any TP’s, that is a separate purchase/subscription
Version 2.9 we will introduce incentive traffic. Simply, if you create a blog, YouTube testimonial or whatever, there will now be an incentive to do this, and this will earn you traffic to qualify your panels. Very shortly!
1 TP = standard
2-9 TP = Premium
10 and above = Executive (new members)
Q&A:
Payouts discussed above. Payza, India, USA and STP will be seen over the weekend and early next week.
How do we get traffic into our color banks?
By signing up new members as referrals.
Panel Speeds???
The panel speeds – keep in mind we just came off of the Christmas holidays, and things are alot slower. Such as the amount of hits on actual sites. There are NO SET TIMEFRAMES. it’s 100% based on the activity on the Internet. It is definitaly slower around the holidays. In the spring they should return to what they were. Also, we have lots of work being done on the new Version, so that also.
As of February 1st – just to give you background.. we started in 2010 and there was no need for ID, 2011 now that we have the BB card, there are now requirements for ID’s for that. It is now manadatory as of February 1, 2013 to have an ID uploaded into the system in order to make a withdrawal by ANY method!!!
BB Tour Poland is April. We do not have city or date yet. Keep posted and that will come shortly. Poland is doing a fantastic job with sales.
Niagra Falls – Ontario – June/July
End of November – Carribbean Islands
I am excited. WE have seen 2 weeks of increased sales and new affiliates. You are doing alot of work in the field. Keep up the good work. We will talk to you soon. Have a great day!!
End of webinar
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in the history of 'business' did you ever see a 'business' carry on with such spluttering and tripping it's way around! Payments and payments methods are subject no 1 on every webinar, it is their biggest issue, yet, without fail, more spluttering and tripping and it's always down the road solutions, never permanently fixed! Can you imagine facebook, after 3 yrs still trying to fix the same basic problem? GO PAYPAL!!!

Anyway, rant over, did our Terry not state something about not wanting/ needing/ recruiting any more into the programme to show it could survive without them or am I dreaming it?

Originally Posted by Brenda

in the history of 'business' did you ever see a 'business' carry on with such spluttering and tripping it's way around! Payments and payments methods are subject no 1 on every webinar, it is their biggest issue, yet, without fail, more spluttering and tripping and it's always down the road solutions, never permanently fixed! Can you imagine facebook, after 3 yrs still trying to fix the same basic problem? GO PAYPAL!!!

Anyway, rant over, did our Terry not state something about not wanting/ needing/ recruiting any more into the programme to show it could survive without them or am I dreaming it?

Paypal? That's safe... At the risk of sounding crude here: It's the different "withdrawal methods" that BB are using here - everyone keeps on getting screwed...

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

We are looking forward to the UK World Tour

Oooh, are we all going?

Originally Posted by Brenda

did our Terry not state something about not wanting/ needing/ recruiting any more into the programme to show it could survive without them or am I dreaming it?

Looks like they have a new word for recruiting they now call it SALES

Chris Smith "Poland is doing a fantastic job with sales"

the more pages we have on the net, the more advertising we can sell.

I thought BB didn't sell advertising this week?

Advertising sales is so last year

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Paypal? That's safe... At the risk of sounding crude here: It's the different "withdrawal methods" that BB are using here - everyone keeps on getting screwed...

very funny Ashken! I was being sarcastic about the paypal thing, of course it would never suit them to have it, nor would they get it. Doubters, ask yourselves why and why.

BTW, did you see the post on Martin's blog stating that Chris Smith is ex onlineincome? Have youtube of that Chris speaking but don't think it's ours?? Sounds Jamacian, listen to it and see what jamaica that. (see, we can all crack poor jokes;)

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Originally Posted by Brenda

very funny Ashken! I was being sarcastic about the paypal thing, of course it would never suit them to have it, nor would they get it. Doubters, ask yourselves why and why.

BTW, did you see the post on Martin's blog stating that Chris Smith is ex onlineincome? Have youtube of that Chris speaking but don't think it's ours?? Sounds Jamacian, listen to it and see what jamaica that. (see, we can all crack poor jokes;)

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Ah, but funnily enough, when I heard the BB Chris Smith speaking, I thought I detected a Jamaican/West Indian tone to the accent. Overlaid with a transatlantic twang....but it was still in there, I thought.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Ah, but funnily enough, when I heard the BB Chris Smith speaking, I thought I detected a Jamaican/West Indian tone to the accent. Overlaid with a transatlantic twang....but it was still in there, I thought.

he introduces himself as Chris something that I can't pick up, is it Steeles?? Anyone else make out his name. It always made more sense for him not to be Canadian, whoever Smith is. This recording goes back to 2009, one can change vocal twangs in that time, easy.

Originally Posted by Brenda

he introduces himself as Chris something that I can't pick up, is it Steeles?? Anyone else make out his name. It always made more sense for him not to be Canadian, whoever Smith is. This recording goes back to 2009, one can change vocal twangs in that time, easy.

I've not listened to it yet (wife's watching TV in the same room), BUT at the top of the page, on the right, it says "Welcome Chrisdeals".

https://twitter.com/Chris_Deals

?

Originally Posted by Brenda

he introduces himself as Chris something that I can't pick up, is it Steeles?? Anyone else make out his name. It always made more sense for him not to be Canadian, whoever Smith is. This recording goes back to 2009, one can change vocal twangs in that time, easy.

No it's Chris Deals his name is in the YouTube video. However he sounds nothing like our "Chris Smith" to me. Our "Chris Smith has a deeper voice.

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You beat me by three mins Steven

Chris Deals's Photos | Facebook

Not him, pity.

Same sort of business though.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Ah, but funnily enough, when I heard the BB Chris Smith speaking, I thought I detected a Jamaican/West Indian tone to the accent. Overlaid with a transatlantic twang....but it was still in there, I thought.

jeff1.jpg

From a video of the Four Million Dollar Man in action...

Ian Driscoll

There's my friend Jeff, I met Jeff in December (2011) in Toronto, Canada, where I touched the building, met all the programming staff, met Chris Smith, the owner.... and we're like brothers, although Chris is from Jamaica originally

Originally Posted by StevenHoward

Chris Deals's Photos | Facebook

Not him, pity.

Same sort of business though.

how old could that photo be? Defo not him?

Originally Posted by Brenda

how old could that photo be? Defo not him?

At most about three years old.
Stitcher Smart Radio started December 2009 according to Wiki.

Don't know about YooSayToo they might be even newer.

It's Defo not him.

Originally Posted by Brenda

how old could that photo be? Defo not him?

Are we working on the theory that all black men look alike?