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01-18-2013, 10:25 AM
#6976
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
AshKen1
So how do people like Stepsys etc manage to withdraw all that money that they boast about each month? Technically it's not possible according to the rules that BB have put in place.
refwhores aka pimps aka shills aren't "regular" members, neither do they claim to be.
When they quote how much they've received from Banners Broker, they aren't technically lying.
Readers just "assume" they make their money like everyone else under the same terms and conditions as everybody else.
Some of the big winners/shills/pimps/insiders in Zeek Rewards have been shown by the receiver as having received as much as $2million from Zeek while contributing as little as $1500 of their own money.
In cash terms giving the selected insiders/shills/pimps a swag of "panels" or "positions" costs the fraudsters nothing. It's part of the cost of doing business to them.
It then becomes in the recipients' best interest to keep the HYIP ponzi alive as long as possible.
The longer it lasts and the more new recruits he/she brings in, the more his/her "panels" "adpacks" "positions" "earnings" or whatever the particular HYIP ponzi is "selling" increase in value.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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01-18-2013, 10:31 AM
#6977
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
@LRM
Thank you for explaining. Clear and simple. Easy to read, easy to understand.
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01-18-2013, 10:54 AM
#6978
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Someone may find something of use here: Open Site Explorer
It'll take a lot of digging though.
Jason
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01-18-2013, 11:03 AM
#6979
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Make sure your antivirus is active if following some of the links on that page. Blackhole exploit.
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01-18-2013, 11:13 AM
#6980
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
IMPORTANT!
Ad Spy for Google Analytics-UA-10738267 | domaincrawler.com
Well, if you have a snoop around.
The Google analytics ID used on Bannersbroker.com is used on the website: GLOBALCOMMUNITYPROJECT.BIZ
The Whois for that is:
Registrant Name: Marcus Brewer
Registrant Organization: Deliverance Temple
Registrant Address1: 2815 High st
Registrant City: Des Moines
Registrant State/Province: Iowa
Registrant Postal Code: 50312
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
STRANGENESS PILES UP: OWOW ’8G Zip Drive Stick’ Offered From Non-Existent Address Of ’123 Internet St.’ In Des Moines, Iowa; Similar Bogus Address Of ’123 Online St.’ Advertises ‘Global Gifting ConnectionR
ProfHenryHiggins seems to have heard of him before:
STRANGENESS PILES UP: OWOW ’8G Zip Drive Stick’ Offered From Non-Existent Address Of ’123 Internet St.’ In Des Moines, Iowa; Similar Bogus Address Of ’123 Online St.’ Advertises ‘Global Gifting ConnectionR
I hear he's a well-known.
OPINIONS?
Jason
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01-18-2013, 11:17 AM
#6981
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
It is not unusual for an HYIP scheme to hire/use/otherwise employ a purported spokesperson/PR manager. The AdViewGlobal scam had such a person; the ASD scam had several of them.
At the same time, it's not unusual for "defenders" of "programs" to try to dial up stalking and harassment campaigns against antiscam sites -- even as a purported spokesperson is out there trying to soften the image of a "program" or trying otherwise to appear reasonable.
In the JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid scam, the female conference-call host -- a de facto spokeswoman -- had a voice made for radio. She talked like the "program" somehow was real in a real-world sense, but it was an obvious fraud scheme.
One of ASD's spokespeople later became involved in a campaign to encourage affiliates not to file for remissions (effectively restitution from seized fraud proceeds). She cited purported "legal" opinions from a man who turned out to be "sovereign citizen" implicated in a plot to file false liens against public officials who had a role in the ASD Ponzi case. There was a side effort to plant the seed that any person who filed for remissions or otherwise cooperated with law enforcement would be sued by a group of the scheme's insiders.
The only safe thing to assume about these schemes is that the perpetrators and "defenders" are capable of anything.
PPBlog
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01-18-2013, 11:21 AM
#6982
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
PPBlog
It is not unusual for an HYIP scheme to hire/use/otherwise employ a purported spokesperson/PR manager. The AdViewGlobal scam had such a person; the ASD scam had several of them.
At the same time, it's not unusual for "defenders" of "programs" to try to dial up stalking and harassment campaigns against antiscam sites -- even as a purported spokesperson is out there trying to soften the image of a "program" or trying otherwise to appear reasonable.
In the JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid scam, the female conference-call host -- a de facto spokeswoman -- had a voice made for radio. She talked like the "program" somehow was real in a real-world sense, but it was an obvious fraud scheme.
One of ASD's spokespeople later became involved in a campaign to encourage affiliates not to file for remissions (effectively restitution from seized fraud proceeds). She cited purported "legal" opinions from a man who turned out to be "sovereign citizen" implicated in a plot to file false liens against public officials who had a role in the ASD Ponzi case. There was a side effort to plant the seed that any person who filed for remissions or otherwise cooperated with law enforcement would be sued by a group of the scheme's insiders.
The only safe thing to assume about these schemes is that the perpetrators and "defenders" are capable of anything.
PPBlog
Patrick, I just took the above quote from your website, hope you don't mind!
It mithered me about a license?
Jason
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01-18-2013, 11:23 AM
#6983
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
I am going to take you back to 2004 and a program called PIPS ... The person who ran the show was a man by the name of Bryan Marsden, and he operated out of Malaysia ... this was my first exposure to Ponzi's.
Aaah yes, I remember it well... my first exposure to Ponzis, too. Only unlike your sagely self, I lost a few hundred quid to it. Mind you, Marsden (and his wife) did lose a lot more... their liberty inside a Malaysian jail. So you could say I'm once bitten, twice shyster savvy.
"There's a sucker born every minute"... which wouldn't be so bad if there wasn't a sociopath to exploit them born every hour.
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01-18-2013, 11:39 AM
#6984
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Poyol
Welcome to RealScam, Mark.
Thank you! Happy to be here.
Mark
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01-18-2013, 11:47 AM
#6985
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
To my knowledge and based on my experience, Paypal does not like MLM's or any company that resembles one. As a result, they would either not accept BB or would quickly freeze the account if they were accepted.
I can confidently say is has NOTHING to do with fees.
Mark
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01-18-2013, 11:49 AM
#6986
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Poyol
Do note: Globalcommunityproject.biz has expired now.
Just have a look at any ties between Marcus and Banners Broker.
Jason
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01-18-2013, 11:52 AM
#6987
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Welcome sally and mark!
Anyone able to calculate the price difference between payza, paypal.. Etc? I tried but between howthe info is displayed and my limited knowledge in these services i couldnt do much calculating.
I just figured itd be a more solid hit to TS's credibility than simply stating that fees arent an issue.
TJ
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01-18-2013, 11:55 AM
#6988
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
silly sally
Hi, everyone. I have been following this thread for almost a year but obviously this is my first post. I found this forum when a friend joined BB and sung its praises to me. He is either naive or a total scammer- he is a total believer. I hope that it's the former...
I have found some interesting information regarding the American side of things, but would rather pass it along to the regulars here to do what they wish with it. I'd have no idea where to start. Please PM me if you would like to hear it.
-Sally
Post away....Right here for all to see will be just fine.
And welcome to realscam
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
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01-18-2013, 12:00 PM
#6989
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Poyol
Good for you Jason.....It's a pleasure to watch you work
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
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01-18-2013, 12:02 PM
#6990
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
Just found this on BB Facts and Updates, this is the cut and paste and I will post the screenshot.
It was posted approx 12 minutes ago.
Note to all who post on this page.
Anyone who posts negative comments will be deleted and some users may be banned.
BB has always paid out eventually folks,your payments will be paid in due course and there will be panel movement in the near future. They are changing the servers again to better their service which can only be for our benefit.
Please be patient and most importantly stay positive.
Have a wonderful day!
"Changing the servers again" would be code for "waiting for more new members to bring in new money".
Mark
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01-18-2013, 12:04 PM
#6991
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Poyol
IMPORTANT!
Ad Spy for Google Analytics-UA-10738267 | domaincrawler.com
Well, if you have a snoop around.
The Google analytics ID used on Bannersbroker.com is used on the website: GLOBALCOMMUNITYPROJECT.BIZ
The Whois for that is:
Registrant Name:
Marcus Brewer
Registrant Organization: Deliverance Temple
Registrant Address1: 2815 High st
Registrant City: Des Moines
Registrant State/Province: Iowa
Registrant Postal Code: 50312
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
I hear he's a well-known.
OPINIONS?
Jason
Is that the Pastor mentioned further up the thread (early stuff). I dimly (yes it's Friday pm) recall seeing a youtube video by him. No more a Pastor that I'm a piece of spaghetti (on the internet no-one knows you're spaghetti). All smarmy and horrid he was but full of fervour for little old schemes to make us all rich.
Last edited by AshKen1; 01-18-2013 at 12:12 PM.
Reason: Friday afternoon typo correction
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01-18-2013, 12:06 PM
#6992
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Poyol
MarcusBrewerlink.jpg
Just a screenshot.
Jason
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01-18-2013, 12:07 PM
#6993
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
AshKen1
Is that the Pastor mentioned further up the thread (early stuff). I dimly (yes it's Friday pm) recall seeing a youtube video by him. No more a Pastor that I'm a piece of sphaghetti (on the internet no-one knows you're spaghetti). All smarmy and horrid he was but full of fervour for little old schemes to make us all rich.
I searched the thread but couldn't find a mention of him.
Jason
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01-18-2013, 12:14 PM
#6994
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Poyol
I searched the thread but couldn't find a mention of him.
Jason
Pretty sure I've seen him in a video - maybe youtube? One of the others is sure to know :)
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01-18-2013, 12:15 PM
#6995
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
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01-18-2013, 12:18 PM
#6996
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
AshKen1
Pretty sure I've seen him in a video - maybe youtube? One of the others is sure to know :)
www.Our6FigureLifeStyle.com - YouTube
Only know about this one. His holiness goes by the name of Pastor David Duncan.
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01-18-2013, 12:21 PM
#6997
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Poyol
For anyone not 'down with' Google analytics IDs this is an ID that ONE company or individual uses on THEIR sites as they HAVE to have access to the website to verify the website through Google. So, it shows a very significant link between Marcus and Banners Broker. Even that Marcus is the man behind it all. Purely speculation.
I won't quote that post again. I promise.
Jason
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01-18-2013, 12:27 PM
#6998
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
@ Jason
you see, this is the stuff that you guys can find that amazes me, problem is, I don't understand it's relevance or what it means though ?
I see connections with BB, silverline, bbv1 but are you saying that the same owners own all the sites?
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01-18-2013, 12:29 PM
#6999
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Brenda
@ Jason
you see, this is the stuff that you guys can find that amazes me, problem is, I don't understand it's relevance or what it means though ?
I see connections with BB, silverline, bbv1 but are you saying that the same owners own all the sites?
By the very nature of a Google Analytics ID - it's one company or individual that uses that ID. No one else should.
They could ... if someone had access to the Google account and the website that they want to verify.
Jason
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01-18-2013, 12:30 PM
#7000
Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Poyol
By the very nature of a Google Analytics ID - it's one company or individual that uses that ID. No one else should.
They could ... if someone had access to the Google account and the website that they want to verify.
Jason
thank you!
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