Thread: Lyoness

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Originally Posted by Della Cate

The website is intermittently on and off, but was on last time I checked. The scheme has definitely gone ahead, but as soon as I started asking questions to the business team at Woking, they stopped answering my emails. The local paper is also refusing to discuss the issue at all, which is really frustrating. They have a massive story right on their door step and they stubbornly refuse to investigate. Bonkers. Absolutely bonkers

Well, according to the article in the Woking News and Mail, the Woking Councillor dealing with this was the "Business Liaison Portfolio Holder", one Cllr Saj Hussain.

https://moderngov.woking.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=131

Might be worth dropping him a line and see what he has to say about it?

Norway have banned Lyoness from operating:

https://diepresse.com/home/wirtschaf....intern.portal

It's taken me many weeks to get to the bottom of the Cashback World Scam, but this is how I think it operates:

In brief:
Cashback World are buying Giftcards from National Retailers (in particular Love2Shop) at a discount and then re-selling them back to their members at full price. They give a percentage of that profit back to the members through 'cashback' and keep the rest.
Then they pretend that major Retailers are their merchants, so they can entice in the Small/Medium sized business owners, who pay them vast sums (up to £1050) to join.

Full post is here:
https://taratalkstoday.blogspot.com/...card-scam.html

Woking Council have run a 'scam awareness' talk today!

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Finally! A retailer with some back bone! Well Done Tesco's!
This is the message they have sent me today:

'Hi Tara,

Thank you for taking the time to make us aware of this.

To call us a merchant of theirs however could be deemed misleading – as we are not a merchant but an issuer of Tesco gift cards in the relationship.

This will be picked up with them and we'll request that they stop referring to Tesco in that way.

Thanks
Cassandra - Customer Care'

Cashback World are doing this to ALL the National Retailers and it's FRAUD. 100%! Let's hope others follow

A Company called 'Eyetime' have sponsored the F1 Austrian Grand Prix.

Eyetime named Formula One Austrian Grand Prix title sponsor - SportsPro Media

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/h...rand-prix.html


'25th May 2018:

Formula 1, the pinnacle of motorsport, is pleased to announce that eyetime will be the new title sponsor for the 2018 Grosser Preis von Osterreich, which will take place at the Red Bull Ring in Spielberg from June 30 to July 2.

Eyetime is an innovative social life app, one of the most avant-garde communication tools currently available on the digital market. With its state-of-the-art encryption and worldwide connectivity, eyetime meets all of its users’ needs, whether in private or professional communication.

Sean Bratches, Managing Director, Commercial Operations at Formula 1 said:
“We are delighted to welcome eyetime as one of the title sponsors of a Formula 1 Grand Prix during the 2018 season. With its hi-tech and innovative approach to the world of digital communication, eyetime perfectly matches with our vision of the pinnacle of motorsport and with our aim to connect the sport with the younger generations.”

Meglena Krumova, CEO at eyetime, said:
“eyetime opens the door to a new dimension of communication and we are very happy to partner with Formula 1 on the occasion of the 2018 Grosser Preis von Osterreich. eyetime with its possibilities for communication and Formula 1 with its millions of fans are an ideal match.”.



So who is this company that Formula One have given their name to?

The Director is listed as: Christopher Norman Thomson

Another Director is listed as Meglena Krumova - who is listed as 'resigned'.

The Secretary is listed as HEXAGON TDS LTD which has five Solicitors listed as it's Officers.

Christopher Norman Thomson is listed on all of these companies as well:

MEDIAWORLD INTERNATIONAL LIMITED (11393512)
Company status Active.
Correspondence address : 10 Finsbury Square, London, United Kingdom, EC2A 1AF

OFFICERS: HEXAGON TDS and THOMSON, Christopher Norman

MYWORLD ALPHABET LIMITED (11380259)
Company status Active
Correspondence address: 10 Finsbury Square, London, United Kingdom, EC2A 1AF
Role ACTIVE. Secretary Appointed on 24 May 2018
Registration number 07407685


OFFICERS: HEXAGON TDS and KRUMOVA, Meglena


EVENTWORLD INTERNATIONAL LIMITED (11366440)
Company status Active

Correspondence address 10 Finsbury Square, London, EC2A 1AF
Role ACTIVE. Secretary Appointed on 16 May 2018
Registration number 07407685


OFFICERS: HEXAGON TDS, THOMSON Christopher Norman, *LENA Alexander and *STAMPFER Markus

MYWORLD MEDIA GROUP LIMITED (11358567)
Company status Active

Correspondence address: 10 Finsbury Square, London, EC2A 1AF
Role ACTIVE. Secretary Appointed on 12 May 2018

Registration number 07407685


OFFICERS: HEXAGON TDS, THOMSON Christopher Norman, and RIEGER Bettina.

MYWORLD ENTERPRISE LIMITED (11334767)
Company status Active

Correspondence address 10 Finsbury Square, London, EC2A 1AF
Role ACTIVE. Secretary Appointed on 28 April 2018

Registration number 07407685


OFFICERS: HEXAGON TDS and THOMSON Christopher Norman,


LYCONET INTERNATIONAL LIMITED (11157485)
Company status Active

Correspondence address 5th Floor, 10 Finsbury Square, London, United Kingdom, EC2A 1AF
Role ACTIVE. Secretary Appointed on 18 January 2018

Registration number 7407685


OFFICERS: HEXAGON TDS, KAPUN Mario and THOMSON Christopher Norman.


MYWORLD HOLDINGS LIMITED (11138560)
Company status Active

Correspondence address 5th Floor, 10, Finsbury Square, London, United Kingdom, EC2A 1AF
Role ACTIVE. Secretary Appointed on 8 January 2018

Registration number 07407685


OFFICERS: HEXAGON TDS, SEDOVNIK Marko and THOMSON Christopher Norman.



EYETIME INTERNATIONAL LIMITED (11138453)
Company status Active

Correspondence address 5th Floor, 10, Finsbury Square, London, United Kingdom, EC2A 1AF
Role ACTIVE. Secretary Appointed on 8 January 2018

Registration number 07407685


OFFICERS: HEXAGON TDS, and THOMSON Christopher Norman.

MYWORLD LOGISTICS LIMITED (11138126)
Company status Active

Correspondence address 5th Floor, 10, Finsbury Square, London, United Kingdom, EC2A 1AF
Role ACTIVE. Secretary Appointed on 8 January 2018

Registration number 07407685


OFFICERS: HEXAGON TDS, PSONDER Bernhard Dr and THOMSON Christopher Norman.



MYWORLD NATURAL GROUP LIMITED (11138058)
Company status Active

Correspondence address 5th Floor, 10, Finsbury Square, London, United Kingdom, EC2A 1AF
Role ACTIVE. Secretary Appointed on 8 January 2018

Registration number 07407685


OFFICERS: HEXAGON TDS, HASSLER Andreas and THOMSON Christopher Norman.


MYWORLD REAL ESTATE LIMITED (11137987)

Company status Active

Correspondence address 5th Floor, 10, Finsbury Square, London, United Kingdom, EC2A 1AF
Role ACTIVE. Secretary Appointed on 8 January 2018

Registration number 07407685


OFFICERS: HEXAGON TDS and THOMSON Christopher Norman.


MYWORLD INTERNATIONAL LIMITED (10776184)
Company status Active

Correspondence address 10 Finsbury Square, London, United Kingdom, EC2A 1AF
Role ACTIVE. Secretary Appointed on 17 May 2017

Registration number 07407685


OFFICERS: HEXAGON TDS, SEDOVNIK Marko, GRAVE SILVA Fernando Jorge Ferreira PIETA Rafal Wojciech and THOMSON Christopher Norman.

SPORTS WORLD MARKETING LTD

Company status Active

Correspondence address Part Floor 3, 40 Bank Street, Canary Wharf, London, England, E14 5NR

OFFICERS: THOMSON Christopher Norman, *LENA Alexander and *STAMPFER Markus

POLINAR LIMITED (10260623)
Company status Active

Correspondence address: 47 York Street, London, United Kingdom, W1H 1PW

OFFICERS: THOMSON Christopher Norman,

PROCESSION TECHNOLOGY LTD (SC456311)
Company status Active

Correspondence address: 47 York Street, London, England, W1H 1PW

OFFICERS: THOMSON Christopher Norman,

47 YORK STREET LIMITED (01556934)
Company status Active

Correspondence address: 47 York Street, London, W1H 1PW

OFFICERS: THOMSON Christopher Norman,

And (finally) we have this one:

MYWORLD RETAIL SERVICES UK LIMITED (06932198)
Company status Active

Correspondence address: 47 York Street, London, W1H 1PW

Which is otherwise known as 'CASHBACK WORLD'.

Cashback World, you can call a turd a turnip.

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But what about Walmart?

It’s true that some major department stores are Lyoness merchants. However, that doesn’t mean they’ll accept the card. In fact, Walmart will not accept your Lyoness card unless you click through the link on Lyoness’ website which is essentially an affiliate link to Walmart.

So what happens is that you buy something from Walmart through Lyoness and Lyoness earns a commission while rewarding you with a few cents in return. It’s pretty complicated but honestly anyone can become an affiliate for Walmart, so what Lyoness has done with this store chain is not that impressive. https://barenakedscam.com/lyoness

https://lyoness.pissedconsumer.com/review.html

https://lyoness.pissedconsumer.com/c...211260574.html

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com....php?t=5864858

https://behindmlm.com/companies/lyon...-used-in-2017/

https://behindmlm.com/companies/lyon...s-are-illegal/

https://ethanvanderbuilt.com/2018/01...yramid-scheme/

Lyoness SME merchants in Australia are being lured in with free membership which doesn't include the cards.
But then when they join, they have to pay Lyoness $50 a month in fees AND 8% of any sale that is purchased using the card.
I don't know if this is happening in other countries but the SME's in Australia seem oblivious to this racket.

I have two bits of news tonight that I'm hoping are really good:
Firstly Tesco.
I've been in regular contact with Tesco's over the summer and have been telling them all about CashBackWorlds 'business practices' and they've been really helpful and very appreciative of the information. So I'm really, really hoping that this news tonight is permanent?

cbw tesco sold out.JPG

As you can see, people have been trying to buy Tesco Giftcards though CBW and they have 'sold out'.

And secondly, and much more hopeful, is some news about Love2shop vouchers.
People have also been trying to top up there CBW Love2shop cards and have also been unable to do so:

love2shop cbw fca1.JPG

But this lady was so cross, she contacted Love2shop customer service dept and was shocked to be told this bit of really good news:
(that's good for us, not her!)

love2shop cbw fca.JPG

The trouble with telling lies is that you WILL get caught out!

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How To Get A Refund From Lyoness;

https://taratalkstoday.blogspot.com/...et-refund.html

Over 600 people claim to have gotten a refund from Lyoness using this Austrian Lawyer.
I can only substantiate one of them, but it's still nice to know that action can be taken if you want to.

Lyoness is permanently banned in Norway. The Norwegian Gaming Board has rejected Lyoness’ second appeal, resulting in the Ponzi scheme being permanently banned in Norway. The Gaming Board initially banned Lyoness in Norway in January 2018. Lyoness appealed that decision.

The Gaming Board’s investigation found that the majority of revenue Lyoness generated in Norway was from direct unit investment, as opposed to cashback shopping, as well as commissions and unit returns were also primarily funded by new unit investment. Oz at behindMLM has a story on this development.

This is interesting.
Woolworths in Australia have banned Lyoness from buying their gift vouchers.
Oh, how I wish, the UK retailers would do the same!

cbw aus snip.JPG

Also, we have this:

'I Called Lyconet Customer Service on Friday (April 25, 2019) And Got The Following Reply:

Due To Fraud, All New Cashback World Shoppers Using The Cashback App Must Have The Credit Card Option activated by The Gift card Department.

The Marketer or Sponsor of The New Cashback World Shopper Can e-Mail Cashback World Customer Service The Name And ID Number of The New Cashback World Customer That Need Their Cashback App Credit Card Option Activated. Multiple Requests Can Be Included in One e-mail.

This Request Can Also Be Called in, But They Prefer e-mail To Keep From Being Bomb With Lots of Phone Calls.

Plan B:

You Can Ask Your New Cashback World Customers To e-mail or Call In Their Own Request To Activate The Cashback App Credit Card Option. But, You Might Lose A New Cashback World Customer With This Plan B!

I Thought This Was A Non-iPhone Issue, But It is Not. It’s A New Cashback World Customer Issue.'

It's all kicking off down under!
Jef Rowlinson the Australian MD has been sending emails to his Lyoness members claiming that the numerous refunds currently being given out to disgruntled Lyoness members are LIES, that the German law firm handling the refunds are SCAMMERS and that there are NO legal proceedings anywhere in Europe regarding Lyoness!

https://taratalkstoday.blogspot.com/...-rowlison.html

Originally Posted by HARRISON

It's all kicking off down under!
Jef Rowlinson the Australian MD has been sending emails to his Lyoness members claiming that the numerous refunds currently being given out to disgruntled Lyoness members are LIES, that the German law firm handling the refunds are SCAMMERS and that there are NO legal proceedings anywhere in Europe regarding Lyoness!

https://taratalkstoday.blogspot.com/...-rowlison.html

LOL,shouldn't that be spelled "Lying Ass?"

Damning Swiss Court Judgement on the whole rotten Lyoness system:
…..In summary, the business model of the defendant (Lyoness) is an unfair snowball system, pyramid scheme or Ponzi scheme according to Art. 3 (1) lit. R. UWG…..

….. Contracts closed on the basis of an unfair snowball system are ethically unacceptable…..

New Swiss judgement of 4 June 2019! Legal disaster for Lyoness! - BE KONFLIKTMANAGEMENT

Daniel thinks if he just changes the name of 'Lyconet' to 'PresidentFreedom', nobody will know it's the same ponzi. WRONG Daniel!

TARA TALKS: 'President Freedom' - Another name for Lyoness/Lyconet/CashbackWorld/My World SCAM.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

Daniel thinks if he just changes the name of 'Lyconet' to 'PresidentFreedom', nobody will know it's the same ponzi. WRONG Daniel!

TARA TALKS: 'President Freedom' - Another name for Lyoness/Lyconet/CashbackWorld/My World SCAM.

Just different color lipstick on the same pig...!

A London Promotional Video for MyWorld - with a few added extras

myWorld Video- Scambuster Approved.mp4 - Google Drive

Lyoness recently had to explain, in an Austrian Court, why they weren't a pyramid scheme.
They failed!
The court document is very long but consists of two main conclusions;
1/ The Terms and Conditions could not be read by affiliates in full before they became members, so are unfair and can't be enforced.
2/ The Lyoness member is not an entrepreneur or a business owner but a consumer with consumer rights.
But they also weren't too complimentary about Clouds!
Or Cashback World!
This is my favourite bit - enjoy!

'But the advantages of a simple membership are not attractive, even economical even considered completely uninteresting: The cashback moves in the deep single-digit percentage range and the member is even better served if it is the same negotiate a discount with a dealer of his choice. In addition, the selection of partner companies and their range of products is modest, poor, mostly only local small companies (hairdresser Susi, Gasthaus zum Kirchenwirt etc.). Often the companies don't even know anything of their luck, listed on the Lyoness website as a partner company become. In view of the doubtfulness of the business model, everyone has already agreed well-known companies distanced from Lyoness. The Lyoness Cashback Card is used by well-known companies are not accepted at all!'

The full transcript of the German document has been translated here;
TARA TALKS: Lyoness / Lyconet - Vienna Court Case, July 28th 2020

Remember 'eCredits'? The amazing new payment system that would let you pay with your smartphone using blockchain technology? Well it looks like they've abandoned that idea as they can't get a license - can't imagine why!
FMA - Bekanntmachung: ETR AG
Announcement: ETR AG
07/10/2020
By order of July 7, 2020, the FMA prohibited ETR AG, Aeulestrasse 74, 9490 Vaduz, FL-0002.616.922-1 from issuing e-money or the acceptance of deposits and other repayable monies and the repayment of the funds received is arranged.
ETR AG is the operator of the website https: // blocktrade [dot] com ("Blocktrade Platform"). In this regard, the Company accepts funds for the purpose of issuing e-money or as deposits or other repayable funds. ETR AG thus operates the business of issuing e-money or accepting deposits and other repayable funds without the authorization required by the FMA.
This ruling is immediately enforceable, but not yet legally binding.'
'ECR' and 'ETR' have exactly the same address:
ECR AG Aeulestrasse 74, 9490 Vaduz, Liechtenstein
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Have you ever been to an interview for one job and then been offered an 'opportunity' to join a pyramid scam instead!
TARA TALKS: 'Swiss Food' - Are They Using Job Interviews to Recruit for Cashback World? (Lyconet / Lyoness / MyWorld)

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Great news to share today!
Lyoness Kart Hizmetleri Ltd. has been banned in Turkey for operating a pyramid scheme and is now going through bankruptcy proceedings. Lyoness is also facing criminal charges for tax evasion!
TURKEY - Lyoness as a pyramid scheme prohibited by the court! Dummy company busted / Lyoness Kart Hizmetleri Ltd. Sti. under bankruptcy administration/tax debts worth millions / penal proceedings for tax evasion and deliberate bankruptcy. - BE KONFLIKTMANAGEMENT...
“To the responsible authority,
The business operations of Lyoness Kart Hizmetleri Ticaret Ltd. Şti. have been terminated due to tax debts to the tax office in Mecidiyeköy and bankruptcy proceedings are currently continuing.
After the bankruptcy decision concerning this company, LYONESS HOLDING EUROPE Ltd. will be registered as bankrupt according to the Trade, Enforcement and Competition Law of the Turkish Republic. Furthermore, Lyoness Kart Hizmetleri Ticaret Ltd. Şti. will be registered as bankrupt. It will not be possible for these bankrupt companies to resume trading activities in Turkey. If LYONESS HOLDING EUROPE AG. founds another company in Turkey or becomes a partner in another company, its liability for the public debt before bankruptcy will continue.
For these reasons, it is not commercially possible for these companies to establish companies in Turkey or become shareholders in other companies.”

And watch this space for some great news coming out of Austria very soon!

No longer can Hubert hide behind MyWorld. An Austrian judge has legally declared MyWorld part of the Lyoness/Lyconet scam:
myWorld Austria GmbH also part of the pyramide scheme with its judgement at the HG Wien of 13.11.2020! - BE KONFLIKTMANAGEMENT...

On 30th August, 2019 the biggest recruiter of Lyoness in the USA replied to an email from a concerned Lyoness member who was trying to tell him that Lyoness was a scam:
'Mr. Little Dickhead,
Dont you think it is enough of your ****? Just remeber you are very small piece of **** which can stink for awhile....but everything has end !!! Im sure you understand'
And...
'As I said, you have no balls....and such pervert little dickheads who are jerking off on child porno are always hiding....but you are on the list ��'
And...
'Do not be such bad example to those kids.....you want them to remember you for something good.....so, my suggestion is if you have such huge problem with our business, company etc to simple communicate because only this way we can find solution. All other options will be painfull....Think about it'

Well now he seems to have changed his tune and decided that Lyoness is indeed a scam and has delivered this devastating interview:
Silvio SPANGL - Former Presidents Club Career Level 8 Leader Exposes Lyoness / Lyconet / myWorld! ?? - YouTube