Thread: Scamlandpro - Your One-Stop Site for all Scams!

Thank you for the heads up, scratchy. I will be looking for the very things you are speaking of, and any I find will be targeted for removal.

I see that "klagoosh" has been introduced to Adlandpro community as "Affiliate Manager."

I quote Bogdan Fiedur on page 3485 on The Mountain of Love thread. Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/569870/A-Journey-to-the-Mountain-of-Love/3485.aspx

"Re: A Journey to the Mountain of Love
12/4/2012 3:39:46 AM
I would like to announce that David Cottrell long time member of Adlandpro and my good friend agreed to take position of Affiliate Manager. I would like to welcome Dave as a member of our team and I'm looking forward to long time of working together and to good things coming out of this relationship. Welcome David and I'm excited and inspired to be able to work with you.

Bogdan Fiedur "

I would like to know if RS members can see a copy of the duties and responsibilites associated with this position that you agreed with Bogdan Fiedur.

Please tell us if you receive any remuneration other than commissions from the promotion of his gold membership program for the new appointment.

Originally Posted by klagoosh

Thank you for the heads up, scratchy. I will be looking for the very things you are speaking of, and any I find will be targeted for removal.

Well, I will see if I can help you out with that. While I was still in Adlandpro and starting a Scam thread I found some things in Adland that looked suspicious to me so after I joined RS, I started a thread here.

http://www.realscam.com/f9/how-legit...-promoter-533/
This was the response in Adland:

If We SEE SOMETHING, We're Going To SAY SOMETHING | View Thread | AdlandPro Community

Cyber-bullying News? SG Blowhard is a CYBERBULLY! | View Thread | AdlandPro Community

The Truth The Whole Truth And Nothing But The Truth | View Thread | AdlandPro Community

The Hypocrite In Chief Is At It Again | View Thread | AdlandPro Community

Those are some of the forums in Adland still held as trophies against me. I have probably missed a few.

I have recently been accused of "not being able to break with Adland". My answer was "Adland does not seem able to break with me." Several months ago when this bullying started up again I added a section to my blog about Cyber Crime and Bullying. I had copied and pasted from those forums and gave me answers and reactions. It was a way to cope with again having my name slandered in public. It helped me to be able to stand up to them. It was a constant battle with this in Adland when I dared cross Peter Fogel and Jim Allen (about 2007) when they were running the POTW and other forums. They were ruthless. After that time, anything I did was criticized by this group of about 5 people. Bogdan stepped in at times but mainly he would always say it was my fault. That was what he told several other people also. We were told to just ignore them! (What a joke!) You cannot ignore someone posting total lies about you in a public format. When I finally saw that it would never stop as long as I remained a member, I cleaned up everything I could find that I had started - deleted it - and left a comment in one of the threads where I was being harassed again to tell them to stop and I deleted some of the messages. Before I could delete my account, Bogdan sent me a message telling me that my account was terminated. In the last month I have removed that filth from my blog and just have information about Cyber Crime and Bullying.
You have now chosen to be Mr. Good Guy in Adland, as a lot like the Goodwill Ambassador that used to around but it never lasted. John Sanchez lasted longer than anyone but that gang chewed him up every time he tried to come back and as far as I know he remains a member but I only see him in Facebook. I was asked once by Bogdan to take that role to which I adamantly refused. LaNell took it and was crushed by them. Deleted everything and left for a while. I suppose as long as you (I won't use the graphic here that says what I mean) but you get the meaning to Jim Allen, Peter Fogel and Bogdan Fiedur - you should be just fine. Of course they welcome you back with open keyboards, graphics and praise because most of them are fake and live in a fantasy world, never seeing the real meaning behind the website.

You are now a worthy member of RealScam and will be treated as such by me. It is the cyber crime and deciding between what is right and what is wrong that needs to be exposed is the important element.

Successful advertising for "Prospect Geyser" from Scamlander Pauline Frye.

To see advertising copywriting gem written by Paula Frye.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2584306/Ad-works-well-for-Prospect-Geyser-currently-paying-40-a-sale.aspx?flag

"Hi,

Here's one of my best pulling ads for Prospect Geyser if you need one to use. As a member, make sure to update your downline builder. I am always getting free signups to the things in there! Helps me keep traffic flowing to my websites.

Paula"

Prospect Geyser Home

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

I see that "klagoosh" has been introduced to Adlandpro community as "Affiliate Manager."

I quote Bogdan Fiedur on page 3485 on The Mountain of Love thread. Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/569870/A-Journey-to-the-Mountain-of-Love/3485.aspx

"Re: A Journey to the Mountain of Love
12/4/2012 3:39:46 AM
I would like to announce that David Cottrell long time member of Adlandpro and my good friend agreed to take position of Affiliate Manager. I would like to welcome Dave as a member of our team and I'm looking forward to long time of working together and to good things coming out of this relationship. Welcome David and I'm excited and inspired to be able to work with you.

Bogdan Fiedur "

I would like to know if RS members can see a copy of the duties and responsibilites associated with this position that you agreed with Bogdan Fiedur.

Please tell us if you receive any remuneration other than commissions from the promotion of his gold membership program for the new appointment.

I have entered into a gentlemen's agreement with ALP, and as such will not be disclosing details of that agreement. I am sure you understand. As I stated before, I do not desire in any way to make anyone uncomfortable here, and hope that is not the case. Remember that these forums are not hidden, so you can be confident I am not here as a spy! :)

Scams hurt everyone, and have completely destroyed a lot of good businesses. I appreciate being invited here by you.

Originally Posted by klagoosh

I have entered into a gentlemen's agreement with ALP, and as such will not be disclosing details of that agreement. I am sure you understand. As I stated before, I do not desire in any way to make anyone uncomfortable here, and hope that is not the case. Remember that these forums are not hidden, so you can be confident I am not here as a spy! :)

Scams hurt everyone, and have completely destroyed a lot of good businesses. I appreciate being invited here by you.

Bogdan has announced the fact that you are "affiliate manager." I hope that you can persuade some members promoting scams that only being affiliates for a program is rather a weak excuse, which has been used by Paula Frye. in a RS thread. Paula needs to update her list of moneymaking affiliate programs pretty quickly as one of them, (FunkyShark) has been closed down .

Paula's comments on her affiliate programs are already published in RS.

Paula Frye's comments.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Bogdan has announced the fact that you are "affiliate manager." I hope that you can persuade some members promoting scams that only being affiliates for a program is rather a weak excuse, which has been used by Paula Frye. in a RS thread. Paula needs to update her list of moneymaking affiliate programs pretty quickly as one of them, (FunkyShark) has been closed down .

Paula's comments on her affiliate programs are already published in RS.

Paula Frye's comments.

I will do what I can, but must admit that I am only human, do not do this full time, and cannot possibly do due diligence on all the things advertised. What I CAN do is continually warn folks about the fact that probably about 90% of the ads that come in their OWN mailbox are advertising VERY questionable programs, meaning that this is what they are going to find anywhere.

The sad fact is, scammers will continue to plot their next scheme as long as foolish, lazy people think there's a way to get rich quick. All we can do is keep picking a target and staying on track till it's brought down.

A good allegory is duck hunting. When the flock flies up, there are a LOT of choices, but unless you pick ONE, you'll never pull the trigger. AND, the big AND: If you simply shoot at the pond the ducks were swimming in, you won't get any ducks.

Many of the Scamlanders who organise or stand in their Person of The Week competitions are promoting a ponzi which is on its last legs. Any member of Adlandpro who reads this thread should be extremely cautious before spending anything with ProfitClicking. It has been very well reviewed on RS. Do not buy into this program or recommend it to a colleague without doing any DD.

Warnings about ProfitClicking.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Many of the Scamlanders who organise or stand in their Person of The Week competitions are promoting a ponzi which is on its last legs. Any member of Adlandpro who reads this thread should be extremely cautious before spending anything with ProfitClicking. It has been very well reviewed on RS. Do not buy into this program or recommend it to a colleague without doing any DD.

Warnings about ProfitClicking.

No need to go any further than the front page on profitclicking. The hype should stop anybody who is thinking.

BTW, they are no where near on their last legs, unless the regulators are about to make their arrests. With traffic ranking like they have on Alexa, they are extremely healthy.

Site Information for profitclicking.com Get Details
Alexa Traffic Rank: 225 Traffic Rank in RU: 83
Sites Linking In: 37,400

This means that they are number 225 out of all the sites in the entire world for traffic. That's a massive amount of clout. You will need some pretty big guns or dead bang solid evidence to shut an outfit like that down. If you have the evidence, you better go into witness protection until everybody is in jail!

Originally Posted by klagoosh

This means that they are number 225 out of all the sites in the entire world for traffic. That's a massive amount of clout. You will need some pretty big guns or dead bang solid evidence to shut an outfit like that down. If you have the evidence, you better go into witness protection until everybody is in jail!

There's no need for anyone to work at "bringing them down"

The writing's on the wall.

Judging by the chatter on the "usual suspect" HYIP ponzi forums, I would confidently hazard a guess that much of the Alexa traffic is, in fact, members desperate to find out what's happened to this "indefinitely sustainable" HYIP ponzi and even more desperate to reclaim at least SOME of their money.

IM(very)HO as a long time observer of the scene, the only two questions remaining about ProfitClicking are "when" and "bang or whimper"

One thing's for sure, I wouldn't be basing the size of my Christmas present list in anticipation of receiving any major payments from ProfitClicking between now and December 25.

There....Fixed it for you....

One thing's for sure, I wouldn't be basing the size of my Christmas present list in anticipation of receiving any major payments from ProfitClicking between now and December 25...2057.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

There's no need for anyone to work at "bringing them down"

The writing's on the wall.

Judging by the chatter on the "usual suspect" HYIP ponzi forums, I would confidently hazard a guess that much of the Alexa traffic is, in fact, members desperate to find out what's happened to this "indefinitely sustainable" HYIP ponzi and even more desperate to reclaim at least SOME of their money.

IM(very)HO as a long time observer of the scene, the only two questions remaining about ProfitClicking are "when" and "bang or whimper"

One thing's for sure, I wouldn't be basing the size of my Christmas present list in anticipation of receiving any major payments from ProfitClicking between now and December 25.

Well, that is good news, then, and I hadn't thought of that angle. Makes a lot of sense. Maybe the member Christmas present will be a good smack in the side of the head with the "wiseup" board...

Originally Posted by littleroundman

There's no need for anyone to work at "bringing them down"

The writing's on the wall.

Judging by the chatter on the "usual suspect" HYIP ponzi forums, I would confidently hazard a guess that much of the Alexa traffic is, in fact, members desperate to find out what's happened to this "indefinitely sustainable" HYIP ponzi and even more desperate to reclaim at least SOME of their money.

IM(very)HO as a long time observer of the scene, the only two questions remaining about ProfitClicking are "when" and "bang or whimper"

One thing's for sure, I wouldn't be basing the size of my Christmas present list in anticipation of receiving any major payments from ProfitClicking between now and December 25.

Not to mention tens of thousands of clicks from rotators on Traffic Exchanges which are not "real traffic". These seriously distort the rankings.

Hi everyone, I just want to say that people have come down hard on me at Scam.com and now here at Realscam.com as well. Personally I feel that this is not right at all. For me I have been a member of mostly free sites for over 10 years now. Yes it can be frustrating as there are truly scammers out there. I too have been burned by websites that promise me a payout only to reach the $100 payout and then NOT get paid. But I also have learned over these last 5 to 10+ years what works and what doesn't, what pays and what doesn't. Again my dozens of programs including paid-to-read emails & similar sites, network marketing, & online surveys are truly legitimate. I only advertise what actually works.

And this is the first time I've heard anything negative about Adlandpro. However I do not generally surround myself with negative people. I'm sorry for those of you who have been mistreated at ALP or any other website where you are trying to make friends and / or supplemental income. I sympathize with you. My goal is to help you succeed not to harm anyone. If you are in doubt about my main forum at Adlandpro or any of my money-making sites, please email me in a private message and I'd love the chance to get to know you better as well as alleviate any concerns you might have about me, my forums, or my programs.

Another statement made about me is that I delete posts in my forums that are negative about a certain member or program. That is not true for me personally. I don't do that. Can't recall which website(s) people were saying were scams over at Scam.com however it they mentioned Hits4Pay then that's also a mislead comment. I actually have reached the $25 payout about a dozen times now. I do have proof-of-payment. I know I have advertised earning $100's to $1,000's a month. My best months have been $1000+ and I'll be honest and say that most of my months are $100's not $1000's though. And I have Paypal payments from my programs, giftcards to Amazon.com and from Walmart and other places, plus live checks to show for all of my hard work. They say that when you help enough other people to be successful you will. I'm living proof, thanks.

P.S. My approach isn't always the best & I apologize if I ever come across as a spammer. I know I should advertise less and socialize more, building relationships first, my bad.

Hello and welcome to RealScam, MartinezShopper. Glad you found us. I came in this one to post info where you can find tons of "programs" advertised daily so I will just do that and respond later to your comment because I rarely go to Scamdotcom.

community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/14638/List-All-Your-Biz-Sites-Here.aspx

Adlandpro Marketing #362, September 2, 2012 - Get Clients Online - By Becoming a Mind-Reader?

At least we know why people are excited to be person of the week and at same time you are advertising Adlandpro - not much of a gift in my opinion.

Originally Posted by MartinezShopper.ws

Hi everyone, I just want to say that people have come down hard on me at Scam.com and now here at Realscam.com as well. Personally I feel that this is not right at all. For me I have been a member of mostly free sites for over 10 years now. Yes it can be frustrating as there are truly scammers out there. I too have been burned by websites that promise me a payout only to reach the $100 payout and then NOT get paid. But I also have learned over these last 5 to 10+ years what works and what doesn't, what pays and what doesn't. Again my dozens of programs including paid-to-read emails & similar sites, network marketing, & online surveys are truly legitimate. I only advertise what actually works.

And this is the first time I've heard anything negative about Adlandpro. However I do not generally surround myself with negative people. I'm sorry for those of you who have been mistreated at ALP or any other website where you are trying to make friends and / or supplemental income. I sympathize with you. My goal is to help you succeed not to harm anyone. If you are in doubt about my main forum at Adlandpro or any of my money-making sites, please email me in a private message and I'd love the chance to get to know you better as well as alleviate any concerns you might have about me, my forums, or my programs.

Another statement made about me is that I delete posts in my forums that are negative about a certain member or program. That is not true for me personally. I don't do that. Can't recall which website(s) people were saying were scams over at Scam.com however it they mentioned Hits4Pay then that's also a mislead comment. I actually have reached the $25 payout about a dozen times now. I do have proof-of-payment. I know I have advertised earning $100's to $1,000's a month. My best months have been $1000+ and I'll be honest and say that most of my months are $100's not $1000's though. And I have Paypal payments from my programs, giftcards to Amazon.com and from Walmart and other places, plus live checks to show for all of my hard work. They say that when you help enough other people to be successful you will. I'm living proof, thanks.

P.S. My approach isn't always the best & I apologize if I ever come across as a spammer. I know I should advertise less and socialize more, building relationships first, my bad.

From what I have seen in the last few years, you & wife are both nice people but I hope that since you have found RS you will read through some of the programs discussed here that you have been promoting. Members here can tell you that scamdotcom is far from being a scam-busting site - I leave it to those who know better than I.

We have been cyber friends for years and I tend to overlook a lot of things. I do know that somewhere in here this program has been discussed and this is from your link:
My.ws — Income for Life™

I am not here to trash you or your name but would hope that you look closer at what brings in that extra cash as all of us could use but I like to be sure that where mine comes from is legal. I sell merchandise and not promises. Please do stay around and get acquainted.

Originally Posted by MartinezShopper.ws

Hi everyone, I just want to say that people have come down hard on me at Scam.com and now here at Realscam.com as well. Personally I feel that this is not right at all. For me I have been a member of mostly free sites for over 10 years now. Yes it can be frustrating as there are truly scammers out there. I too have been burned by websites that promise me a payout only to reach the $100 payout and then NOT get paid. But I also have learned over these last 5 to 10+ years what works and what doesn't, what pays and what doesn't. Again my dozens of programs including paid-to-read emails & similar sites, network marketing, & online surveys are truly legitimate. I only advertise what actually works.

And this is the first time I've heard anything negative about Adlandpro. However I do not generally surround myself with negative people. I'm sorry for those of you who have been mistreated at ALP or any other website where you are trying to make friends and / or supplemental income. I sympathize with you. My goal is to help you succeed not to harm anyone. If you are in doubt about my main forum at Adlandpro or any of my money-making sites, please email me in a private message and I'd love the chance to get to know you better as well as alleviate any concerns you might have about me, my forums, or my programs.

Another statement made about me is that I delete posts in my forums that are negative about a certain member or program. That is not true for me personally. I don't do that. Can't recall which website(s) people were saying were scams over at Scam.com however it they mentioned Hits4Pay then that's also a mislead comment. I actually have reached the $25 payout about a dozen times now. I do have proof-of-payment. I know I have advertised earning $100's to $1,000's a month. My best months have been $1000+ and I'll be honest and say that most of my months are $100's not $1000's though. And I have Paypal payments from my programs, giftcards to Amazon.com and from Walmart and other places, plus live checks to show for all of my hard work. They say that when you help enough other people to be successful you will. I'm living proof, thanks.

P.S. My approach isn't always the best & I apologize if I ever come across as a spammer. I know I should advertise less and socialize more, building relationships first, my bad.

I've posted this on the other thread, but perhaps it needs to be posted here in reply to your own duplicated post.

This comment is not personal as I have no idea who you are or what programs you promote, BUT whatever they may be it is essential to remember that

"I've been paid" does not and never has made a program legal. All programs pay out until they don't - ask anyone who profited from 12Daily Pro, AdSurfDaily, P2P, Zeek Rewards, and a whole host of other now defunct or closed programs that claimed to be legimate and were NOT.

Originally Posted by MartinezShopper.ws

My goal is to help you succeed not to harm anyone.

Hello Stephen,

I did not run into you when I was a member of Adlandpro.

You do have a forum on which you ask fellow Adlandpro members to post business opportunities. If you delete all the scams which are posted on that forum and made it a forum for legitimate business opportunities on Adlandpro, it could be a good start for you in this community. Let's see how you get on with that project.

Stephen's forum for "Business Opps."

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/23946/POST-YOUR-MONEYMAKING-OPPS-HERE.aspx

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Hello Stephen,

I did not run into you when I was a member of Adlandpro.

You do have a forum on which you ask fellow Adlandpro members to post business opportunities. If you delete all the scams which are posted on that forum and made it a forum for legitimate business opportunities on Adlandpro, it could be a good start for you in this community. Let's see how you get on with that project.

Stephen's forum for "Business Opps."

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/23946/POST-YOUR-MONEYMAKING-OPPS-HERE.aspx

Please let's stick with what we know here in RS. We have a new member going by MartinezShopper (may I just call you MSW?) and hope he will stay and become familiar with the site and contribute. He can then decide what he wants to do about any advertising or programs he supports. As I stated, I will not start bashing and calling by name someone who has chosen to not use their real id.

The forum is quite like some we have named in Business and Owners from Adland thread that you started P2P.

Scamland's infamous Mose Hardy has not been chucked out by admin. How long is it since Bogdan assured his members that he would be removed?

Mose is trying to compete with Kathleen VanBeekom and Paula Frye. How will that go down in Scamland?

Scroll to the bottom of the page to see who owns this

EZ Wealth Christmas Con.

What do you have to say about copy and paste ads on all free advertising sites?

I know what I have to say about the notion but my comments will not be welcome.

They will not be deleted if you care to post a reply in RS.

Free Copy and Paste Advertising Recommended Here.

Low Risk Money Making Programs?

Recommended by Simsha Marketing = Avoid Like the Plague.

Simsha Sales spiel.

"Join Low Risk Investment Programs Recommended By Top Moneymakers & make money like crazy without referring others. Visit and Bookmark Our Web page!

http://nitrolist.com/link/smisha1

To Your Success
Smisha Marketing"

Avoid Anything Recommemnded by Simsha Marketing on Scamlandpro. To see Simsha profile.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/30591/Promote-Your-All-Business.aspx

Simsha Advice to Make Money Like Crazy

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2585284/CRAZY-Make-M0ney-Like-CRAZY.aspx?flag=1

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Scamland's infamous Mose Hardy has not been chucked out by admin. How long is it since Bogdan assured his members that he would be removed?

Mose is trying to compete with Kathleen VanBeekom and Paula Frye. How will that go down in Scamland?

Scroll to the bottom of the page to see who owns this

EZ Wealth Christmas Con.

Oh My, is Mose back?? Yes, he and his wife were quite a pair for spamming back when and all they do is advertise scam.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

low risk money making programs?

recommended by simsha marketing = avoid like the plague.

simsha sales spiel.

"join low risk investment programs recommended by top moneymakers & make money like crazy without referring others. Visit and bookmark our web page!

http://nitrolist.com/link/smisha1

to your success
smisha marketing"

avoid anything recommemnded by simsha marketing on scamlandpro. to see simsha profile.

Type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/forum/30591/promote-your-all-business.aspx

simsha advice to make money like crazy

type http:// then community.adlandpro.com/forums/post/2585284/crazy-make-m0ney-like-crazy.aspx?flag=1

another notorious scammer!

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

What do you have to say about copy and paste ads on all free advertising sites?

I know what I have to say about the notion but my comments will not be welcome.

They will not be deleted if you care to post a reply in RS.

Free Copy and Paste Advertising Recommended Here.

I was hoping that I had answered that well on that article you have shared here for me (thank you, btw, although that is not the title I originally used). It's ok to copy and paste ads on classified ad sites, but they should be tweaked or changed slightly from time to time as you go along. Simply pasting the identical ad into multiple classified ad sites is not something the search engines are happy about and is actually counterproductive. There used to be software being sold all the time (don't know if it still is) that was supposed to "BLAST" your ad to so many bazillion sites. Let me quote from the article, in case you might have missed it (it's right at the bottom; you have to scroll, slightly):

"Get creative as you place your ad, changing it slightly from time to time, and you are telling Google that your website is a really important place to visit! Every ad you place is a new link to your website or product, telling the search engines to raise your ranking. It’s very effective, and it’s free!"

One thing that is a TERRIBLE idea is copying someone else's ad or an ad from an affiliate site and pasting it everywhere. It really needs to be your own.

Advertising even legitimate business opportunities on free classifieds has, unfortunately, become not so effective anymore, because so many really crappy "business opportunities" are advertised that they get lost in the herd.

My suggestion (which I did not add to that article) for those who are advertising a "business opportunity" is, make money with it yourself. If you have to recruit a bunch of strangers to make a go of it, how good is it really? Unfortunately, far too many don't make money unless they continually recruit. This tells me that the products are either no good, too expensive, or fake/nonexistent.

However, for actually selling real goods, cars, one ofs, services, real estate, etc., it is pretty hard to beat the economy of classified ads.

By the way, Judy, I am pleased to know you are still following Adlandpro and the Adlandpro group "Adlanders" on Facebook, which are the only two places you could have found the link to that brand new article.

God bless,

Dave