Thread: Scamlandpro - Your One-Stop Site for all Scams!

Originally Posted by klagoosh

So now I am a scum bag? I think you got it wrong, Judy. It is not that this "Adlander" is hiding under a rock; it is that you invited me here because your old punching bag must have been worn out. If you want to continue bashing a man who has just started back into the online world, go ahead. People who know me know I constantly send warnings to people who promote junk. The difference is, I don't waste time preaching to the choir on a sad little site like this one Heather's hubby has saddled himself with, but email those people directly, including those who pitch me on Adlandpro.com and anywhere else. This is what I have always done, and will continue to do.

The reason I have not been here is simply because it is not a productive way for me to deal with anything. Not too many people are paying attention to this site. That said, there ARE some good people on RS, but it is not necessary to come here to read their observations, findings, and warnings.

I have looked at your posts here and your actions there with your new title and all but so far all I see is all talk and no action. The scales of justice do not tilt your way!

klagoosh,

No offense intended, but it is abundantly clear Bogdan Fiedur has no intention of cleaning that cesspool up as his real income is from the scammers advertising on there. The obvious scammers are still busy posting away all their cash gifting scams, pyramid schemes and all the rest of the crap. Nothing has changed. I don't think you have nearly the gargantuan size shovel needed for the job. Good luck over yonder!

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

klagoosh,

No offense intended, but it is abundantly clear Bogdan Fiedur has no intention of cleaning that cesspool up as his real income is from the scammers advertising on there. The obvious scammers are still busy posting away all their cash gifting scams, pyramid schemes and all the rest of the crap. Nothing has changed. I don't think you have nearly the gargantuan size shovel needed for the job. Good luck over yonder!

So, that makes it ok for someone to call me a scum bag? Come on, Heather. If the internet has not been cleaned up since Realscam went live, does that make everyone here "scum bags" because they have not yet succeeded? It hasn't even been a month since I started as Adlandpro's affiliate manager, a 3 hour per day undertaking, as A.) I am a pastor, albeit of a small church, and B.) I really am in my fifth year with Lyme disease and told Bogdan I cannot commit to more than that. Rome was not built in a day. I personally believe that Bogdan really does want to do a full overhaul, as that makes very good business sense. But it is not a ten minute job.

Originally Posted by klagoosh

It hasn't even been a month since I started as Adlandpro's affiliate manager, a 3 hour per day undertaking,

So how many threads, adds, and the like for scams have you removed since you started??.....

Originally Posted by klagoosh

Not too many people are paying attention to this site.

You need to check your facts.....Scamaland been going 5-6 times as long as realscam yet the traffic, page views etc show that realscam is doing just great and that it's scamaland that not too many people are paying attention to these days compared to the past....

Originally Posted by klagoosh

So, that makes it ok for someone to call me a scum bag?

I called you a scum bag because you know Adlandpro promotes just about every scam and ponzi on the net and you promote Adlandpro Gold Member Program as a legitimate way to earn money. How can you offer such a dubious money earner on the world wide web and say that you are trying to clean the place up?

You are in BoggyBoy's inner circle and that fact alone is enough for many of us to think that you are nothing but a scum bag. How much do you earn from his gold program which you promote to try and earn money from such a corrupt organization Dave?

Originally Posted by klagoosh

So, that makes it ok for someone to call me a scum bag? Come on, Heather. If the internet has not been cleaned up since Realscam went live, does that make everyone here "scum bags" because they have not yet succeeded? It hasn't even been a month since I started as Adlandpro's affiliate manager, a 3 hour per day undertaking, as A.) I am a pastor, albeit of a small church, and B.) I really am in my fifth year with Lyme disease and told Bogdan I cannot commit to more than that. Rome was not built in a day. I personally believe that Bogdan really does want to do a full overhaul, as that makes very good business sense. But it is not a ten minute job.

I am also sorry if you have been offended. I guess that, whilst cleaning up Adland makes excellent business sense and is not a ten minute job, some of us here seriously doubt Bogdan Fiedur's sincerity in overhauling his site and therein lies the difference between us. Nothing over the past five years has indicated any intention of this kind, and you, yourself, must be aware of many failed attempts by members in the past to do just that. In fact it's owner has rarely permitted any criticism of the scams he has permitted on his site and has taken positive action to squash objective criticism many times. His recent attack on Real Scam was laughable and more representative of the behaviour we have become acustomed to from ponzi shills, not serious businessmen.

Yup, sometimes people are a little rough here. I guess, again, it is because they are sick and tired of seeing the same old same old HYIP, ponzi, dodgy MLM rubbish flogged to the naive and innocent by the same old same old cast of scammers and their cheerleaders who post there - protected on that forum known as AdlandPro.

Originally Posted by klagoosh

So, that makes it ok for someone to call me a scum bag? Come on, Heather. If the internet has not been cleaned up since Realscam went live, does that make everyone here "scum bags" because they have not yet succeeded? It hasn't even been a month since I started as Adlandpro's affiliate manager, a 3 hour per day undertaking, as A.) I am a pastor, albeit of a small church, and B.) I really am in my fifth year with Lyme disease and told Bogdan I cannot commit to more than that. Rome was not built in a day. I personally believe that Bogdan really does want to do a full overhaul, as that makes very good business sense. But it is not a ten minute job.

Sorry that you have been offended Dave. While I realize to some extent what you have accepted to do for Bogdan but you just can't have it both ways. Living with an illness is difficult for all of us but using it as an excuse is not a good idea. It does not excuse the fact of you seeing what is right and what is wrong. You say you are a pastor, yet you want to overlook all the crime being promoted in Adlandpro and try to help make it a legitimate business? It is nothing more than an advertising board with a few extras thrown in. Follow the money trail Dave, do you believe making millions from trying to sell MLM, pyramid and Ponzi schemes, get rich quick scams and any other 'program' out there is the right way to go? I realize Adland is just one of many sites who do the same thing. Do you actually think they can be 'cleaned up'? No, that is way the money is made.

You feel you have received harsh treatment here, there could be a reason for that. You joined here at the invitation of another member and we welcomed you. All of us treat situations differently and I know at times my claws get a little too sharp but I try to stick to facts. The fact is you either choose to fight against cyber crime or you promote it. You have made a decision to work with Adlandpro and promote it. That is your choice. With that decision you are giving a stamp of approval on all the 'scum' that is promoted and advertised there.

Bogdan was a friend of mine also. I really liked and still do like him but he would not defend me against my enemies and I had had enough. Now I realize you are playing a similar role that I played back when and I do understand. Having had a chance to stand back and see the place in a different light (without the rose-colored glasses), I see all the ugliness behind the 'fake' friendships and glitter forums. Contrary to what some may say, I have no spies there who report to me. I still call a few friends but when it comes down to it - are they??? I just recently lost one as you are aware and it was because of the attraction of Scamland.

You may not feel a desire to hang around here after making your choice but you could be an asset because of your knowledge and awareness of many fraudulent programs out there that need to be exposed.

I suppose I have said enough for one morning.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

I had not thought of that "scratchy". Only members can see the little scammer's come ons can they? We both have friends who are Adlandpro members and give us the low down on anything we want to read on Scamland.

Private forums at Scamland. My backside!

From what I am seeing at this point P2P, I have no friends in Scamland. If you want to keep up with kcvan just do a Google search, it is all there. She is small stuff as far as I am concerned but still

Originally Posted by klagoosh

So, that makes it ok for someone to call me a scum bag? Come on, Heather. If the internet has not been cleaned up since Realscam went live, does that make everyone here "scum bags" because they have not yet succeeded? It hasn't even been a month since I started as Adlandpro's affiliate manager, a 3 hour per day undertaking, as A.) I am a pastor, albeit of a small church, and B.) I really am in my fifth year with Lyme disease and told Bogdan I cannot commit to more than that. Rome was not built in a day. I personally believe that Bogdan really does want to do a full overhaul, as that makes very good business sense. But it is not a ten minute job.

Having been called every name in the book for exposing obvious and possible scams, I have a thick skin. You are getting grief for one thing alone. You are working for a forum still littered with prostitution ads, cash gifting schemes, forex scams, questionable MLMs, and much more garbage. Nothing has changed. It isn't going to. Fiedur is not going to send Maurice Bernier, Kathleen VanBeekom and all the rest packing no matter how obvious it is their schemes are
just plain illegal or truly uneconomic.

Bogdan Fiedur started several slam sites and threads attacking this site himself or enlisted his lying goon squad to do the dirty deed. He conjured up fake UCLA students and conversed with them knowing it was all a con. He, Kathleen and Maurice made up criminal statutes and continually threatened this site and its members with criminal prosecution. Fieder sunk as low as to hire a high dollar London solicitor to threaten an elderly woman who has had serious health challenges. I had to dispatch with that clown myself. Fiedur was harassing folks who had rightly pointed out what a cesspool Adlandpro really is. It is all well documented here. So, in the grand scheme of things you are working for a threatening goon, liar and complete fraud. Don't expect that to be smooth sailing. Every choice has consequences. The job you have chosen is controversial and there is no escaping that. I personally would have nothing to do with slime like Fiedur.

Maybe, you will prove us all wrong and turn Adlandpro into a site that we could respect, but as Bogdan Fiedur is out to make money I wouldn't count on it. It causes me to imagine a very determined bloke trying to bail the Titanic with a 1 gallon bucket. When the dollar signs rear their ugly heads, they tend to rule the roost such as it is.

This is nothing personal with you. It is a matter of the baggage that comes from associating with Bogdan Fiedur. Insults within reason are allowed here. Excessive foul language or the like is not tolerated. I hope you will feel welcome here. I am happy to disagree and do value your input here. All viewpoints are welcome.

Either way all my best to you personally Dave!

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

in the grand scheme of things you are working for a threatening goon, liar and complete fraud.

Dave is well aware that if BoggyBoy deleted all Adlandpro members who were promoting ponzis and frauds, he would have no members. I know Dave knows that because he sent me an e-mail stating that fact.

Dave knows every program on Adlandpro is illegal yet he sells BoggyBoy's gold member program. He know what a sewer Adlandpro is and acts as an affiliate for the advertising program.

If Dave has sold Adlandpro gold membership to anybody reading this, I strongly suggest that he or she tries to get the money back from Dave.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Dave is well aware that if BoggyBoy deleted all Adlandpro members who were promoting ponzis and frauds, he would have no members. I know Dave knows that because he sent me an e-mail stating that fact.

Dave knows every program on Adlandpro is illegal yet he sells BoggyBoy's gold member program. He know what a sewer Adlandpro is and acts as an affiliate for the advertising program.

If Dave has sold Adlandpro gold membership to anybody reading this, I strongly suggest that he or she tries to get the money back from Dave.

If Adlandpro was cleaned up there would certainly be a noticeable reduction in members. And, not every program is illegal, but there are certainly some that are illegal and a number that are uneconomic schemes at best. Those are certainly not things I would want on a website I frequented.

Hopefully, anyone that paid money to that cesspool did so with their eyes wide open to the reputation it has acquired. I can't imagine that legitimate advertisers would not want any association with the place. With the traffic plummeting, even scammers could do much better elsewhere.

We should wish Dave good luck. I do believe we is going to need it.

For all our work here and protests from some supporters of Adlandpro, the proof is in the pudding.

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Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Hopefully, anyone that paid money to that cesspool did so with their eyes wide open to the reputation it has acquired.

If anybody is considering paying a monthly fee to become a member of Adlandpro Gold Member Program, they should go in to that with eyes open. You can ask your upline for your money back, if you feel that he or she has sold you a duff deal. I tried the program in 2003 and discovered that it was a complete rip off.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

If anybody is considering paying a monthly fee to become a member of Adlandpro Gold Member Program, they should go in to that with eyes open. You can ask your upline for your money back, if you feel that he or she has sold you a duff deal. I tried the program in 2003 and discovered that it was a complete rip off.

Some of them make money off it now, at least I have been told so. I never made enough to receive payment! However, if a person promotes the website, they promote all the ads that bring in the money.

Originally Posted by scratchycat

Some of them make money off it now, at least I have been told so. I never made enough to receive payment! However, if a person promotes the website, they promote all the ads that bring in the money.

I joined the Gold member program when I was a newbie in 2003. I promoted it for a day or two before I realized that it was a complete waste of money and stopped promoting it. I find it very odd than anybody with experience can fail to see that it is a complete rip off. Perhaps Dave or another Adlandpro Gold members can present any arguments to show that it is value for money.

I find it hard to believe that anybody who promotes this junk gold member program can be considered to be impartial when commenting on Adlandpro. Any of Adland's gold member promoters make themselves very suspect when they claim to be helping clean up Adlandpro.

When will Dave or Dianne start complaining to BoggyBoy about this sort of CRAP and show that they have any influence with the man at all?

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Originally Posted by klagoosh

So, that makes it ok for someone to call me a scum bag?

If the cap fits....

Originally Posted by scratchycat

[COLOR="#0000CD"]Sorry that you have been offended Dave.

I'm not sorry.....Like I said to Diane....You sleep with dogs you wake with fleas.....And Dave has chosen to sleep with dogs.....

Originally Posted by okosh

I'm not sorry.....Like I said to Diane....You sleep with dogs you wake with fleas.....And Dave has chosen to sleep with dogs.....

And sewer rats! Those two have sold out to "Mamon" or some other false idol. I do not know if Diane is one of BoggyBoy's Gold Program members or promoters but plenty of you do. If she is not, she can come over here and inform us that she has not sunk that low.

Originally Posted by scratchycat

From what I am seeing at this point P2P, I have no friends in Scamland. If you want to keep up with kcvan just do a Google search, it is all there. She is small stuff as far as I am concerned but still

Their private forum leaks like a garden sieve so there are plenty of friends that pass on news to all RS members in Adlandpro without our knowing the source of information.