Thread: Bogdan Fiedur of Adlandpro Threatening Suit Against Realscam.com

Originally Posted by okosh

Some people are just too stupid to learn....I'm guessing that Bogan is such a person...

I agree with you 100% I think Bogan is such a person indeed!

Originally Posted by okosh

Some people are just too stupid to learn....I'm guessing that Bogan is such a person...

Maybe his learning curve ended up boomerang shaped and thumped him in the face. I already said it - isn't education a wonderful thing!

Originally Posted by okosh

Some people are just too stupid to learn....I'm guessing that Bogan is such a person...

I wonder if he asked his solicitor whether or not what his Adland forum does is legal while he was dictating his latest threatening letter.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

I wonder if he asked his solicitor whether or not what his Adland forum does is legal while he was dictating his latest threatening letter.

Does his solicitor speak Polish? Adlandpro is presented in both English and Polish. When a very influential Adlander pointed out that most of the deletions appeared to be from the Polish site, it rocked the Adpro boat rather badly.

My builder is fluent in several Slavonic and European languages. I told Lynne how much the builder would charge him and or RS for translations, almost a year ago and I don't think either have approached the builder. I think a multilingual solicitor would cost Bogdan a lot more than the builder's hourly rates .

Originally Posted by littleroundman

I wonder if he asked his solicitor whether or not what his Adland forum does is legal.

That is the million dollar question LRM. I will phone the local radio stations when we get the answer to that.

IT COULD BE TRUE. Another Dying Adlander.

Interesting that the one person who could have shed light of Beveley Armstrong's resurrection after her fatal brain tumour has vanished from Adland and cyberspace?

I found this very interesting P2P, so much so, I think a new thread is called for on this entire subject. If there is already one is place maybe it can be joined.

Here it is and I hope others can find even more to post. I only briefly was acquainted with the person Beverly Armstrong but I do remember her surfacing again after we thought she died.
http://www.realscam.com/f9/fire-retire-951/

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

It is a the correct way of signing a letter to an individual, if you do not use his or her name Lynne. We sign off with Yours Sincerely, if we start the letter Dear Mr or Ms. If we use Dear Sir or Madam to address the person, we sign off with Yours Faithfully.

"Young" Americans like you and some others who may not be aware of this are certainly forgiven. The custom identifies people who have not attended British boarding schools where subjects of this nature were drummed into us from an early age.

As stated, US law is different than UK but surely a legal document as this was supposed to be, a person would have typed their own name at the bottom, along with the company name, is this not true?

Has anyone sent an email to this J.Weider@howardkennedy.com to verify that he indeed did send the letter??

Originally Posted by scratchycat

I found this very interesting P2P, so much so, I think a new thread is called for on this entire subject. If there is already one is place maybe it can be joined.

I replied to the new thread and I have invited "whip" to pray for Felicia.

I am more interested in the death and resurrection of Beverley Armstrong than news of any other Adlander. Pity she was before your time. I considered her one of my best Adland friends. I hope it was Beverley and not "Extortion Buster"

Incidentally Carol Salisbury has vanished into thin air. Perhaps she has found Frodo's magic ring which made her invisible. We don't want products like that in the hands of these dark cabals do we?

Originally Posted by scratchycat

Has anyone sent an email to this J.Weider@howardkennedy.com to verify that he indeed did send the letter??

Nobody has seen the letter other than Bogdan, me, Lynne and SBM "scratchy." I have not e-mailed him as he did not sign the letter.

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

I replied to the new thread and I have invited "whip" to pray for Felicia.

I am more interested in the death and resurrection of Beverley Armstrong than news of any other Adlander. Pity she was before your time. I considered her one of my best Adland friends. I hope it was Beverley and not "Extortion Buster"

Incidentally Carol Salisbury has vanished into thin air. Perhaps she has found Frodo's magic ring which made her invisible. We don't want products like that in the hands of these dark cabals do we?

Are you publicly calling me out because the answer is a public 'NO!'

Boggy the Buffoon has put up this quote again:

Harassment

In this legal guidance, the term harassment is used to cover the 'causing alarm or distress' offences under section 2 of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 as amended (PHA), and 'putting people in fear of violence' offences under section 4 of the PHA. The term can also include harassment by two or more defendants against an individual or harassment against more than one victim.
Although harassment is not specifically defined it can include repeated attempts to impose unwanted communications and contacts upon a victim in a manner that could be expected to cause distress or fear in any reasonable person.
The harassment of another or others can include a range of offences such as those under: the Protection from Harassment Act 1997; the Offences Against the Person Act 1861; the Sexual Offences Act 2003; and the Malicious Communications Act 1988. It is important when considering this type of offending to look at all relevant legislation when formulating charges.
Closely connected groups may also be subjected to 'collective' harassment. The primary intention of this type of harassment is not generally directed at an individual but rather at members of a group. This could include: members of the same family; residents of a particular neighbourhood; groups of a specific identity including ethnicity or sexuality, for example, the racial harassment of the users of a specific ethnic community centre; harassment of a group of disabled people; harassment of gay clubs; or of those engaged in a specific trade or profession.
Harassment of an individual can also occur when a person is harassing others connected with the individual, knowing that this behaviour will affect their victim as well as the other people that the person appears to be targeting their actions towards. This is known as 'stalking by proxy'. Family members, friends and employees of the victim may be subjected to this.
Certain groups of professionals are particularly susceptible to harassment connected with their work. These include doctors, judges, police officers, teachers and other authority and public figures. It may also involve harassment of individuals as a result of their employment by a particular employer.
...
Criminal Legislation

Harassment (section 2): a summary only offence, carrying a maximum of six months' imprisonment and/or a level 5 fine;

Boggy the apparently brainless would be well advised to carefully read the rest of the page:
Stalking and Harassment: Legal Guidance: Crown Prosecution Service

S.4 offence - Putting People in Fear of Violence

The elements of the section 4 offence are:

• a course of conduct;
• which causes another to fear that violence will be used against him; and
• which the defendant knows or ought to know will cause another to fear that violence will be used against him; and
• the defendant ought to know that his course of conduct will cause another to fear that violence will be used against them if a reasonable person in possession of the same information would think that the course of conduct would cause the other so to fear on that occasion.

Defence - Putting People in Fear of Violence - s.4
Section 4 also includes the following statutory defences. It is for the defendant to show that:

• the course of conduct was pursued for the purpose of preventing or detecting crime;
• the course of conduct was pursued under any enactment or rule of law or to comply with any condition or requirement imposed by any person under any enactment; or
• pursuit of the course of conduct was reasonable for the protection of him or herself or another or for the protection of her, his or another's property.

Defences generally

The first defence is that the course of conduct was pursued for the purpose of preventing or detecting crime. This most obviously applies to the police and any other investigative agencies such as the Post Office or HMRC. It is possible that it could be raised as by individuals such as investigative journalists or Neighbourhood Watch members who claim that their activities are for the purpose of detecting or preventing crime.
The second defence to sections 2 and 4 states that the course of conduct was pursued under any enactment or rule of law or to comply with any condition or requirement imposed by any person under the enactment. This most obviously applies to companies acting within their legal entitlement, for example, a Building Society manager warning in writing of repossession proceedings, because of default in mortgage payments, followed by repossession taking place.
The third defence to section 2 is that the defendant was acting reasonably in the particular circumstances. This is a wide defence, which covers the pursuit of a legitimate trade or profession. Ultimately, the decision as to what amounts to reasonable behaviour will rest with the courts.....

Criminal Legislation

This section covers the criminal legislation most relevant to cases of stalking and harassment.
Protection from Harassment Act 1997
The PHA was brought into force on 16 June 1997. A court dealing with a person convicted of an offence under sections 2 or 4 of the Act may make an order prohibiting the defendant from doing anything described in the order. This order is known as a restraining order and can be made in addition to a custodial sentence or other sentence. The order can be useful in preventing continued harassment by the defendant while in prison or on their release.
Section 12 of the Domestic Violence, Crime and Victims Act 2004 (which came into force on 30 September 2009) extended the availability of restraining orders under the PHA to all offences. It provides the courts with the power to make a restraining order even when a person has been acquitted, where the court considers it necessary to do so to protect a person from ongoing harassment from the defendant.
The PHA includes the following provisions:
Harassment (section 2): a summary only offence, carrying a maximum of six months' imprisonment and/or a level 5 fine;

• Fear of violence (section 4): an either way offence, carrying a maximum of five years' imprisonment and/or a fine on indictment;
• Breach of a civil injunction (section 3(6)): an either way offence, carrying the same penalty as for the section 4 offence;
• Breach of a restraining order (section 5(5)); an either way offence, carrying the same penalty as for the section 4 offence;

RealScamClassActionSuit.com

While legal proceedings are underway we are limiting info on this page to just listing of some laws in regards to criminal activity on the internet

What criminal activity? There is nothing any blogger or consumer advocate etc. has done that could possibly qualify as criminal Boggy. I look forward to having a nice chat with your attorney. I am sure he will be less than pleased by these criminal allegations you are braying about. There is nothing like a loose cannon for a client.


Soapboxmom

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Maurice Bernier is one of the ones Bogdan is vigorously defending in his little letter. How much is Bogdan making off of this scam promoter? Just how big is F5Millionaires on Adlandpro??? Maurice Bernier sure is pushing people to participate on Adlandpro!!!

http://www.realscam.com/f8/f5million...sive-scam-554/

Originally Posted by Whip

Are you publicly calling me out because the answer is a public 'NO!'

Hope you did not think that I was being serious "whip." There is a lot of truth in the old saying that 90% of British humour gets lost when it crosses the Atlantic.

I do not think any scam buster will "Pray for Felicia with Paypal" Perhaps more people will read the thread and add comments about scammers who try to use their use their God to help get more money for them. This thread is about legal battles with Adland and I did not want to get too far off topic.

I am sure that most of us will support Scrathy's view. I hoped that you or "laidback" would add spice to the words that one can use about those sort of practices.

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

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Maurice Bernier is one of the ones Bogdan is vigorously defending in his little letter. How much is Bogdan making off of this scam promoter? Just how big is F5Millionaires on Adlandpro??? Maurice Bernier sure is pushing people to participate on Adlandpro!!!

http://www.realscam.com/f8/f5million...sive-scam-554/

Maurice might sue you for suggesting his millionaires club is a scam "Mum." I don't think Bogdan's solicitor will act for Bernier as well, do you?

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Maurice might sue you for suggesting his millionaires club is a scam "Mum." I don't think Bogdan's solicitor will act for Bernier as well, do you?

Quatloos! • View topic - Bogdan Fiedur of Adlandpro Threatens Realscam.com

Just how many of us is the goof going to take on? And, of course, the solicitor in London isn't licensed to practice in the great state of Texas nor where his myriad of other critics reside. So, more legal bills, hassle and plenty of publicity!!!!

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Nobody has seen the letter other than Bogdan, me, Lynne and SBM "scratchy." I have not e-mailed him as he did not sign the letter.

True, but Okosh posted on Page 14, this email address, and I just thought if I had received this type letter I would send an email to that address and ask if he indeed did send it since his name is not typed and "what a signature!!" even my doctor does better.

If I were local, I might just show up at their office and ask to see this person, or someone in charge. But I am quick on the trigger at times.

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Boggy the Buffoon has put up this quote again:

Boggy the apparently brainless would be well advised to carefully read the rest of the page:
Stalking and Harassment: Legal Guidance: Crown Prosecution Service

I look forward to having a nice chat with your attorney.

Soapboxmom

You mentioned the name of the poor bloke Boggy has mentioned to do his dirty work. I am sure he will be pleased to have a chat with you about "his client." I am sure that he will not relish the thought of taking Bernier or Bachman on as well, if either of those decide to sue you.

I may have told Okosh when you had Thanksgiving celebrarions and your son staying with you Scratchy. I did not think your son would appreciate Bogdan news with his turkey

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Quatloos! • View topic - Bogdan Fiedur of Adlandpro Threatens Realscam.com

Just how many of us is the goof going to take on? And, of course, the solicitor in London isn't licensed to practice in the great state of Texas nor where his myriad of other critics reside. So, more legal bills, hassle and plenty of publicity!!!!


Soapboxmom

I have had a belly full of Bogdan's legal games. If Bernier or Bachman want to sue SBM I do not think they will find many British solicitors keen to help with the Bogdan, Bernier, Bachman's of the cyberspace sewer which we call Adlandpro.

Now, Boggy the Buffoon has posted this gem on his little slam site:
http://ezinearticles.com/?When-Cyber...gly&id=4431139

When Cyber Harassment Becomes Libel Or Slander, It Can Get Ugly


The Difference Between Cyber Harassment, Slander and Libel
Cyber harassment is the use of the Internet or other electronic means to harass an individual, a group of individuals, or an organization. Libel is a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation. It is malicious intent to discredit a person by misrepresentation. Slander is an action or crime of making a false, spoken statement that is damaging to a person's reputation.....


What You Can Do To Fight Back
If you have been a victim of either of libel or slander, there are steps you can take. It is vital that you provide proof of the crime if you plan to proceed with a lawsuit. You need to make a hard copy of the statements......


Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/4431139

Bogdan, you are Lost in Space again. What false statements? That is a false statement of fact. Opinions are not actionable Bogdan. Produce those false statements of fact (as I can assure you you will have to have them produced and refuted for court). The fact that your don't like what many consumer advocates and posters have to say is meaningless. Do you really want to keep discussing Jill Bachman's promotion of Ad Surf Daily? How about Maurice Bernier's latest scam F5Millionaire's Club.

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Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Hope you did not think that I was being serious "whip." There is a lot of truth in the old saying that 90% of British humour gets lost when it crosses the Atlantic.

I do not think any scam buster will "Pray for Felicia with Paypal" Perhaps more people will read the thread and add comments about scammers who try to use their use their God to help get more money for them. This thread is about legal battles with Adland and I did not want to get too far off topic.

I am sure that most of us will support Scrathy's view. I hoped that you or "laidback" would add spice to the words that one can use about those sort of practices.

I didn't know you were British. I would have read it in my best Terry Thomas voice. :)

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

I have had a belly full of Bogdan's legal games. If Bernier or Bachman want to sue SBM I do not think they will find many British solicitors keen to help with the Bogdan, Bernier, Bachman's of the cyberspace sewer which we call Adlandpro.

Jurisdiction is an issue. From what little I understand about the law, someone who was keen to sue me would most likely have to come to the tourist mecca of the south --- Dallas, Texas. Solicitors in London would not be the ones handling the case. Boggy and friends will have to initiate legal actions all across the globe to address their grievances with their many detractors where those detractors reside. Perhaps he would like to borrow my time travel broomstick!

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Jurisdiction is an issue. From what little I understand about the law, someone who was keen to sue me would most likely have to come to the tourist mecca of the south --- Dallas, Texas. Solicitors in London would not be the ones handling the case. Boggy and friends will have to initiate legal actions all across the globe to address their grievances with their many detractors where those detractors reside. Perhaps he would like to borrow my time travel broomstick!

Soapboxmom

Anybody acting for Bogdan and Bachman would have to speak several Slavonic languages to be sure none of the money came from Nicker's Smirnows Empire. He or she would have to be sure that none came from Dr Mara's Swiss bank accounts. Mara operated in Holland and the Hatfield Oak processor which she used was based on the Finnish Russian border. I am sure my builder would help out as he picks up languages like a sponge picks up water and he is cleared to work on military projects in UK.

The mind boggles. I am going to bed! Do I start a new John Grisham novel or shall I try and study some quantum physics made so simple that even P2p can grasp the basics? I signed up for bachman's Forex training a long time ago and soon dropped out of school!