Thread: Bogdan Fiedur of Adlandpro Threatening Suit Against Realscam.com

Bogdan Fiedur writes:

....I'm talking to my legal adviser and he believes this can
be qualified as cyber-stalking and cyber-bullying.

I will be forced to report this to law enforcement agencies
in your area, #$%^ area and realscam site owner
area.

I'm requesting that within 48 hours you remove all threads
where you have been smearing people ... on Adlandpro.

Should you not comply with this, I will be filing report
with authorities in your area for cyber-stalking
and cyber-bullying.

In addition I'm starting investigation of bringing legal
action against realscam site and you two.

All threads in question have been archived.


Copy of this note is also sent to my legal advisor.

Pardon me, Bogdan. This drivel should have been directed to me in the first place as our members cannot remove or edit anything that has been posted for longer than ten minutes. So, I suggest you cease harassing Realscam forum members and take up your complaints and whining with me.

The people you insist you are going to report to the authorities are scattered all over the world. I assume you can quote the criminal laws in Texas where I live and where these other individuals live and point out this alleged criminal online activity. This should prove endlessly amusing as expressing one's opinion and reading public information cannot possibly be construed as cyber-stalking or cyber-bullying. You certainly have an active fantasy life, don't you lad?

Civil suits will require actual grounds and you will most likely have to file where the defendant resides. Your causes of action are??? Do forward the contact information for this legal adviser you speak of. I assume that is a licensed attorney and that he has lined up local counsel in Texas and beyond?

I take it your biggest gripe is that Kathleen has had her scam thoroughly exposed here and you are afraid the many uneconomic ventures and outright scams advertised on your forum will all be exposed here. The right to free speech is just that. You can promote whatever you want on your site and sing its praises to high heaven and those who wish to come here and express their concerns about your opportunities have every to do so. I will not be removing any posts unless my co-admin or I in our discretion feel it is advisable or there is a legitimate court order in place. I don't take kindly to being bullied or threatened and I will respond very publicly.

I have had all sorts of threats and bogus police reports to deal with. Jack Weinzierl endlessly threatened me and that buffoon Tim Darnell sued me. So, now consider that fair warning, Bogdan. From now on all correspondence will go to me and not this forum's valued members and anything you send me could be made public. Every scrap of information from Tim Darnell's losing suits against me and the BBB of Dallas are being posted and anything you file will be splashed all over for public consumption as well. I hope Kathleen's latest scam can take that kind of close scrutiny!

Soapboxmom

From: bogdan@softfornet.com
To: soapboxmom@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: RealScam.com - legal action
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:15:36 -0500

Hello Heather,

I noticed that you have removed my name, yet my company name
(which is a trademarked entity) hasn't been removed as of now
in spite of me requesting it.

In addition my name appears in several posts, one just created today.
http://www.realscam.com/f9/12secondc...ber-bully-902/

I was also informed that there are other threads where (***) and (****)
are continually attacking members of the community which I own, from which they
were removed for violation of the community rules including fraud.

Both had issues with other community members and now they are attacking them
and discrediting without any due process.

They are exposing their true names which can be found on our community
and linking them with fabricated stories and accusations. At the same time their names and their identities are protected
by anonymous accounts on your site....

The community members (21 so far) are coming to me and asking for some
actions against these two since their names were exposed due
to being members of my community.

I have no other choice like to enter legal path should these two
continue the distraction and misconstrued content about myself,
my business and my members is kept on your site as their revenge.
Several hours ago I have created this website and haven't announced it
yet to anyone
RealScamClassActionSuit.com but I will should you continue
to allow abuse to myself and my business.

I'm also investigating possibility of acts of cyber-stalking and cyber-bullying
of myself and my business by these two and I will be filing reports
with law enforcement in the respective areas should we determine
this be a possible crime.

In addition my lawyer has been provided with the case and I'm
awaiting their analysis and possibility of demanding
repayment of damages from your company.
The posts attacking my company can be found on your site for
about a year since **** was terminated from our site.

I want to also bring to your attention that I'm running several
online business since 1998 and this is first time somebody
is attacking me and people I'm in association with by
to person who has nothing against me but need to get even.
I will be waiting 48 hours for actions to be taken on your part
in stopping this attacks and removing any references to my
name and business adlandpro.com from your site.

Should this be not honored this time, I will engage in full
legal action against your company and these two individuals
and demand repayment of damages.


Regards
Bogdan Fiedur
http://www.adlandpro.com

Bogdan,

There is no for profit entity. The site owner has always been anonymous. I am the face of www.realscam.com and I am strictly a volunteer. This is an open discussion site where folks are free to express their opinions and post as long as they remain compliant with the rules and guidelines. The site's two active administrators (of which I am one) cannot monitor every posting that goes up. At our discretion we will deal with posts that warrant the attention of an admin.

Folks have very right to discuss individuals that choose to advertise there opportunities publicly on the web. Folks also have very right to express their opinions of businesses. There is no reason that folks can't discuss Adlandpro and share their facts and opinions concerning such. The idea of due process is laughable. Anyone who wishes to register here and respond is welcome to do so. This is a discussion site.

You seem hopelessly confused about what constitutes criminal activity. I am still waiting for you to cite the criminal laws you are braying about. Heavens, didn't Kathleen's hilarious attempt at interpreting existing law teach you clowns a lesson?

10-22-2011, 06:43 PM #214

Soapboxmom
Administrator


Join DateJun 2010LocationMarsPosts2,458


Re: How legit is EZ Wealth Solution?

Kathleen

Okosh,

In USA...YES site owners ARE responsible for everything that goes on with their sites and CAN BE SUED if anyone posting on their sites causes damage, even emotional damage to another internet user.

Adlandpro is a Canadian site, and the owner here actually DOES terminate peoples accounts or tells them to delete harassment posts, which is a lot more than the American owner of realscam does.
If you don't know American laws about internet usage or site-ownership, then YOU'RE the one who needs to find out all that.

Originally Posted by wserra


Bzzt! False. The writer probably ought to take a look at 47 USC 230. In relevant part, it reads: "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." In other words, the "scam site owner" is not liable for what others post. Moreover, since this is a federal statute, it preempts any state law to the contrary.

Barrett v. Rosenthal | Citizen Media Law Project

The district court granted the motion, finding that Rosenthal's statements concerned an issue of public interest within the scope of the anti-SLAPP statute, and that all but one of the alleged defamatory statements were non-actionable statements of opinion. .......

California Supreme Court followed Zeran v. Amercia Online, 129 F.3d 327 (4th Cir. 1997), which also refused to draw a distinction between a "distributor" and a "publisher' for purposes of CDA 230. Both cases are widely regarded as important decisions standing for the proposition that, in the words of Eric Goldman, "no one is liable for other people's content online -- period


Opinions are not actionable.

Zeran v. America Online | Citizen Media Law Project

The Court of Appeals based its ruling on Section 230(c)(1) of the Communications Decency Act, which states: "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider."


The website owner and administrators are not responsible for the content posted by others.

Kathleen, being the brainiac you obviously are, you would have to take on every poster individually with which you think you have an issue. Since opinions are not actionable and you would likely have to sue each defendant where they reside (jurisdiction, brainiac) you should be in for some fun, assuming you are still interested in pursuing this after the much needed brain transplant is completed.

Nothing more charming than a scammer drawing tons of attention to themselves and the crap they are peddling! At least is is somewhat amusing to watch you cook up this utter nonsense!

Soapboxmom

Site owners are not responsible for content. Opinions are not actionable. How certain people feel about a business or individual peddling an opportunity is opinion and they have every right to it. You, Bogdan have nothing more than a serious case of sour grapes that have turned into a lot of whine!!!!

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

I take it your biggest gripe is that Kathleen has had her scam thoroughly exposed here and you are afraid the many uneconomic ventures and outright scams advertised on your forum will all be exposed here.
Soapboxmom

Well done you SBM.

Fiedur promised Adlandpro members that he would be bringing the full force of the law on to me when that idiot Bernier who advertises his FARCE which is known as (F5Mmillionaires club) on Adland, disliked what I published about him here. Fiedur and Bernier have egg on their faces. I look forward to seeing how much more egg they will have when they try messing with you.

Katleen is small fry. We have made mincemeat out of her. Let's see what we all think of Bernier and his MILLIONAIRES CLUB and have a bigger laugh.

RealScamClassActionSuit.com

RealScamClassActionSuit.com
The site RealScam.com engages in harboring disgruntled users who then create anonymous accounts on the RealScam site and out of revenge attack members, business owners and individuals accusing them of unproven actions, exposing their full names taken from their place of business or activity. Such unproven accusations cause irreparable damage to the reputation of users who have provided their full names in public places to conduct their business or other social activities.


For example these two members who were identified as Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum have been attacking members of the community they belonged to who they had disagreements with in the past. Out of revenge two other members of the community (who had no online business for several years) were accused of running scam businesses and one being a crook. Other members have been attacked and without any investigation declared as scammers or fabricated facts have been linked to them.


Both (***) and (****) have been terminated from social networking site for multiple cases of breaking of community rules (including fraudulent activity) after which they have started their attacks on the owner and any active members they could. There is possibility that their actions could be qualified as cyber-bullying and cyber-stalking. The possibility of their breaking of both of these acts is now being investigated for the sake of filing reports with authorities against above mentioned members and site owners of RealScam sites in their respective areas.
The RealScam.com appears to be represented by Heather Dobrott.


Site RealScam encourages cyber-bullying and cyber-stalking by allowing the creation of anonymous accounts and by allowing the users to present of unproven accusations towards individuals of their targeted organization.
RealScam instead of contributing to fighting scam encourages cyber-bullying and cyber-stalking and perpetuates the problems which it has allegedly attempted to solve.

If you have been targeted by anonymous users from the RealScamSite.com and would like to join Class Actions Suit against RealScam.com please send us email to following address support@realscamclassactionsuit.com

Allowing anonymous user accounts is quite common and I see no issue with it here. Law enforcement and legitimate lawsuits can unmask the IP and e-mail addresses of such users when it is in the interest of justice. But Bogdan's online meltdown isn't going to get him anywhere except the Scammers Hall of Fame though.

Trying to silence legitimate critics and bully them is douchebaggery to be sure. If Adlandpro was a place advertising only legitimate businesses and opportunities then they would happily continue with that. But, when there are questionable opportunities and outright scams being promoted then the desparate attempts to silence the legitimate critics seem to get very ugly indeed.

I have been falsely accused of stalking and making death threats by Tim Darnell and Jack Weinzierl. Broker Jones also fabricated criminal allegations of Scam posters sending e-mails threatening his wife and daughters with rape and death. Numerous scammers including Kathleen have threatened me and the site with legal action. Vincent Wright filed 3 bogus police reports. This buffoonery goes on and on.

The facts speak for themselves. If the Adlanders had legitimate businesses they wouldn't be running around making all sorts of ridiculous threats and accusations. They would be busy working and be generating lots of positive publicity. I take it this site is definitely doing something right judging by this hullabaloo!

Soapboxmom

Both (Judy Hortin and Sara Gardner Blow) have been terminated from social networking site for multiple cases of breaking of community rules (including fraudulent activity)

So says Bogdan Fiedur.

What frauduent activities have I been engaged in Bogdan? I promoted a few autosurfs as a punt. I have never promoted an autosurf as an investment or a serious business opportunity. Are those the fraudulent activities in which you claim that I have been involved in? If you make accusatins like this about me you will need to produce the evidence.

Bogdan Fiedur reports that he won't be joining us. He and members of Adlandpro want to threaten frivolous legal actions, but do not want to have a civilized discussion on a site they do not control. Folks who go over to Adlandpro and ask the tough questions get banned and have their posts removed. Posts here aren't likely to be removed or edited. Sorry Charlie.

I have worked with numerous enforcement agencies and I know for a fact they do read these posts. That is one criteria used in deciding what enforcement will be taken when there is not near the funding or staff to shut down all the many scams out there. The more attention something gets online, the more attention that law enforcement is likely to give said fodder of discussions.

Soapboxmom

Site RealScam encourages cyber-bullying and cyber-stalking by allowing the creation of anonymous accounts and by allowing the users to present of unproven accusations towards individuals of their targeted organization. RealScam instead of contributing to fighting scam encourages cyber-bullying and cyber-stalking and perpetuates the problems which it has allegedly attempted to solve.

Bogdan Fiedur is for all practical purposes accusing this site and its management of aiding and abetting criminal activity. I suggest that he substantiate that immediately. Again, I demand to know what criminal statutes have been broken. I demand he provide documentation.

Soapboxmom

Reverse Whois:
"Bogdan Fiedur" owns about12 other domains
Email Search:
is associated with about 19 domains


Reverse IP:
2 other sites hosted on this server.


Log In or Create a FREE account to start monitoring this domain name

DomainTools for Windows®
Now you can access domain ownership records anytime, anywhere... right from your own desktop! Download Now>

domain: realscamclassactionsuit.com
owner: Bogdan Fiedur
organization: Softfornet Solutions Ltd
email:
address: 23-845 Dakota Street, Suite 332
city: Winnipeg
state: MB
postal-code: R2M 5M3
country: CA
phone: +1.2042547228
fax: +1.2042547228
admin-c: CCOM-6849
tech-c: CCOM-6849
billing-c: CCOM-6849
nserver: a.ns.joker.com 207.44.185.100
nserver: b.ns.joker.com 66.252.5.4
nserver: c.ns.joker.com 207.44.185.10
status: lock
created: 2011-10-31 16:42:26 UTC
modified: 2011-10-31 16:42:26 UTC
expires: 2012-10-31 16:42:26 UTC
query-source: 64.246.165.170

contact-hdl: CCOM-6849
person: Bogdan Fiedur
organization: Softfornet Solutions Ltd
email:
address: 23-845 Dakota Street, Suite 332
city: Winnipeg
state: MB
postal-code: R2M 5M3
country: CA
phone: +1.2042547228

source: joker.com live whois service
query-time: 0.007088
db-updated: 2011-10-31 22:27:03

ICANN Registrar:
CSL COMPUTER SERVICE LANGENBACH GMBH D/B/A JOKER.COM

Created:
2011-10-31

Expires:
2012-10-31

Updated:
2011-10-31

Registrar Status:
clientTransferProhibited


Name Server:
A.NS.JOKER.COM (has 98,219 domains)
B.NS.JOKER.COM (has 98,219 domains)
C.NS.JOKER.COM (has 98,219 domains)


Whois Server:
whois.joker.com

General TLDs:
RealScamClassActionSuit.com (registered and active website)

IP Address:
184.71.80.94 Reverse-IP | Ping | DNS Lookup | Traceroute
ASN:
AS6327

IP Location:
- Alberta - Calgary - Shaw Communications Inc

Response Code:
200

Domain Status:
Registered And Active Website
__________________________________________________ _________________________________
Joker.com does sort of say it all!!!!!

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Bogdan Baby

RealScamClassActionSuit.com
The site RealScam.com engages in harboring disgruntled users who then create anonymous accounts on the RealScam site and out of revenge attack members, business owners and individuals accusing them of unproven actions, exposing their full names taken from their place of business or activity.

Ah, so THAT'S why people post here - revenge.

I always wondered why I do it.

Good luck with proving that little piece of insight to the satisfaction of a court.

I can't wait to get into a court room and see Boggie explain how the "actions" are "unproven"

"Your Honour, there I was, innocently promoting a completely legitimate business known as EZWealth Solution and this nasty anonymous poster said my business is illegal and a fraud.

I beg your pardon, Your Honour.......it's 100% legal because

Err, well.......moving on..........Lottery Clubs ARE legal in the USA.........umm.........err.........well.......... .....

OK, forget that, let's go through every "opportunity" presented on AdLand Pro and show EXACTLY how legal they are and how it's critics are wrong

I'm sure the advertisers and promoters won't mind having their businesses discussed in open court, especially with the free publicity they'll get from all those media people over there in the corner"

I look forward to the day.

I think Bogdan is busy editing which is just too funny!

If you have been targeted by anonymous users from the RealScamSite.com and would like to join Class Actions Suit against RealScam.com or have any information which could help to enforce some rules in regards to this site, please send us email to following address support@realscamclassactionsuit.com

http://www.realscam.com/f26/rules-guidelines-63/ But, wait we do have rules. Please note this one:

13: If it is not covered by the rules, please use good judgment. The administrators and moderators will also use good judgment and what they decide goes, so please heed any warnings you are given.

In English that means what littleroundman and I decide goes --- period!!! That is in line with the owners wishes.

The rules also state:

7: Sexually oriented language, excessive foul language, threats, porn, hate posts, racist material, violent depictions, libelous, defamatory material and / or any content that the administrators and / or moderators find objectionable will not be permitted and will be edited or removed. Anything that includes or links to porn, threats, child abuse related material, material that encourages any type of criminal activity and the like will be removed and result in an immediate permanent ban.

Let me help you with that as well, Bogdan and company. Libelous and defamatory would be provably false statements of fact. If you have any verifiable documentation then we will have something to discuss. Otherwise our members are free to discuss any topic that interests them and freely share their opinions. Opinions are not actionable. Got it!

Soapboxmom

RealScamClassActionSuit.com

The site RealScam.com engages in harboring disgruntled users who then create anonymous accounts on the RealScam site and out of revenge attack members, business owners and individuals accusing them of unproven actions, exposing their full names taken from their place of business or activity. Such unproven accusations cause irreparable damage to the reputation of users who have provided their full names in public places to conduct their business or other social activities.
For example these two members who were identified as Judy Hortin and Sara Gardner Blow have been attacking members of the community they belonged to who they had disagreements with in the past. Out of revenge two other members of the community (who had no online business for several years) were accused of running scam businesses and one being a crook. Other members have been attacked and without any investigation declared as scammers or fabricated facts have been linked to them.
Both (Judy Hortin and Sara Gardner Blow) have been terminated from social networking site for multiple cases of breaking of community rules (including fraudulent activity) after which they have started their attacks on the owner and any active members they could identify. There is possibility that their actions could be qualified as cyber-bullying and cyber-stalking. The possibility of their breaking of both of these acts is now being investigated for the sake of filing reports with authorities against above mentioned members and site owners of RealScam sites in their respective areas.
The RealScam.com appears to be represented by Heather Dobrott.
The RealScam.com doesn't offer any protection for individuals who can be targeted by malicious users of their site and doesn't have privacy statement, which at best can be called unprofessional and deceptive.

Site RealScam encourages cyber-bullying and cyber-stalking by allowing the creation of anonymous accounts and by allowing the users to present of unproven accusations towards individuals of their targeted organization. The RealScam.com turns out to be just a harassment and bashing site with no verification of facts and indiscriminate attacks at anyone who looks like an easy target.
The main admin of the site Heather Dobrott sates that she is only doing this on volunteer bases and has no time to verify each post.
RealScam instead of contributing to fighting scam encourages cyber-bullying and cyber-stalking and perpetuates the problems which it has allegedly attempted to solve.

If you have been targeted by anonymous users from the RealScamSite.com and would like to join Class Actions Suit against RealScam.com or have any information which could help to enforce some rules in regards to this site, please send us email to following address support@realscamclassactionsuit.com

Check this site for new developments as we will be updating it frequently.

Well, I noticed. LOLOL!!!!!

Read what appears at the bottom of each page:

Disclaimer: Opinions expressed on this website are solely those of their respective authors.

Federal law and case law clearly states that the owners are not responsible for what is posted. I have already made the same offer I make to anyone with a concern, Bogdan, which is to look into any issue for which you have verifiable documentation. For the love of mud get a clue! We respect our posters rights to express themselves freely, so why don't all of you quit the sour grapes routine and join our discussions. We don't ban people here for differences of opinion like you folks do. So, what you post will stay up and everyone will be welcome here to share unless the simple rules we have are a problem for you Adlanders.

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Bogdan Fiedur is for all practical purposes accusing this site and its management of aiding and abetting criminal activity. I suggest that he substantiate that immediately. Again, I demand to know what criminal statutes have been broken. I demand he provide documentation.

Soapboxmom

This OPINION is that of the posting individual and not that of Realscam, its' owners, or administrators:

Perhaps Bogdon and the rest of his cyber-victims would like to get together at Adland for a group grope....errr. ummm hug...! I just love these armchair barristers attempts at spouting laws they obviously know nothing about. Criminal Statutes? These intellectual cripples couldn't recognize a criminal statute if it bit them on the tushy,,,!

Originally Posted by laidback

This OPINION is that of the posting individual and not that of Realscam, its' owners, or administrators:

Perhaps Bogdon and the rest of his cyber-victims would like to get together at Adland for a group grope....errr. ummm hug...! I just love these armchair barristers attempts at spouting laws they obviously know nothing about. Criminal Statutes? These intellectual cripples couldn't recognize a criminal statute if it bit them on the tushy,,,!

But, but, but,

what about that episode of Perry Mason back in the '60s ???

or that time on Law and Order when that woman successfully sued that guy ??

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Libelous and defamatory would be provably false statements of fact. If you have any verifiable documentation then we will have something to discuss.
Soapboxmom

Perhaps "Boggie" would like to start by explaining the reasons why he was forced to ban me from his community for fraudulent activities.

Is THIS one of the fradulent activities, to which you refer Boggie? Several of your members have told me that it was the publication of that page on my website that got me banned from your community.

Please can somebody here help me to get rid of the intrusive popup which appears when I visit any Adlandpro web site.

Do any of you have to put up with this pop up. I QUOTE ADLAND PRO.


"Start Your Own 100% Income Business
Starting a business is hard and a lot of work. We know – we’ve built from the ground up a successful and proven business in AdlandPro. But we love to share success here, and so for a limited time, we are opening up our software to you. You can have your own business, based on our tried and tested methods, ready to go out of the box without any of the setup, and you’ll still have all the awesome AdlandPro support you’re used to. And to top it off, you can earn 100% of all sales!
Start your business today! "

I have a pop up blocker on my machine and I have gone to Tools-Options-Privacy sections of Firefox to block adlandpro and community.adlandpro from placing cookies or popups on my machine. It still appears when I visit any Adland Page.

I managed to get rid of Adlandpro spam by reporting the matter to my service provider (Virginmedia) and they suceeded in getting rid of it for me but one of their biggest spammers, an Adlander known as Jef Shelcott stil gets past the Virginmedia block and continues to spam me.

I am going to Putney today to speak to my computer service engineers and I will see if it appears on their Intranet. If it does, I may have some news for you.

Judy,

In Firefox, make sure you have "AdBlock Plus" installed and enabled.

Then, it's a simple matter of left clicking on the "ABP" button which will appear just below the top right hand corner of your Firefox window, and selecting the option you require.

Personally, I block all ads on sites such as Adland, Talkgold and MMG and use NoScript to block any JavaScript, Java, Flash and any other script based adverts which slip past AdBlock.

It only takes a click to disable either AdBlock or NoScript, should the need arise.

Otherwise, I don't see any ads at all on those sites

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Judy,

In Firefox, make sure you have "AdBlock Plus" installed and enabled.

Then, it's a simple matter of left clicking on the "ABP" button which will appear just below the top right hand corner of your Firefox window, and selecting the option you require.

Personally, I block all ads on sites such as Adland, Talkgold and MMG and use NoScript to block any JavaScript, Java, Flash and any other script based adverts which slip past AdBlock.

It only takes a click to disable either AdBlock or NoScript, should the need arise.

Otherwise, I don't see any ads at all on those sites

Thanks LRM. I have NoScript installed on both my computers and "Boggies popup" still gets through. This is a very old computer which I bought in 1997 and I have never had the hard disk on this one wiped clean, so I am not really surprised that some things get passed security. I only use it when the better one is in for repair.

I bought my newer one in 2005. Both are bespoke systems from Digitech Computers in Putney so I will have to speak to them before adding AdBlock. It probably is not (but it could be incompatible with the security which they have designed for their systems.) If I add anything without their approval, my maintainence contract would be invalid. I will let you know if they recommend AdBlock in addition to the security software which they have designed for users of their systems.

Judy,

Do check, but, I'm sure a Firefox addon such as AdBlock Plus will not negate your warranty.

Once installed, all the user has to do is right click on the offending ad,

then click on "AdBlock Plus - block image" from the dropdown menu which appears.

It also gives you to block all ads on any particular site, which means you'll only ever see the occasional ad.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Judy,

Do check, but, I'm sure a Firefox addon such as AdBlock Plus will not negate your warranty.

Once installed, all the user has to do is right click on the offending ad,

then click on "AdBlock Plus - block image" from the dropdown menu which appears.

It also gives you to block all ads on any particular site, which means you'll only ever see the occasional ad.

I am pretty certain that it will be OK LRM but I must check as I like to wear belt and braces.

Both (Judy Hortin and Sara Gardner Blow) have been terminated from social networking site for multiple cases of breaking of community rules (including fraudulent activity) after which they have started their attacks on the owner and any active members they could identify. There is possibility that their actions could be qualified as cyber-bullying and cyber-stalking. The possibility of their breaking of both of these acts is now being investigated for the sake of filing reports with authorities against above mentioned members and site owners of RealScam sites in their respective areas.
The RealScam.com appears to be represented by Heather Dobrott.
The RealScam.com doesn't offer any protection for individuals who can be targeted by malicious users of their site and doesn't have privacy statement, which at best can be called unprofessional and deceptive.

Excuse me! Where is your proof? I believe this will vilify any accusation you make against me and since you have decided to make this a world wide event, here is your statement to me. Had you supported your good members (ME, for instance) I would never had had to do these things. You have always accused me of being at fault and let these people rip me apart with their vile lies, character defamation, insinuations and I could go on and on. Since you have now named me publically. Here is your own admission of the part I played in your community.

5/18/2010 4:58:16 PM
Thanks Sara,

I have upgraded your account to Adlander Plus. Now you have ability to send more direct messages and to people who are not on your friends list.
You will get new credits at the beginning of each month.

Also I have marked you as a moderator, meaning you will be now able to delete offending posts in any forum.

Please be careful with this as when post is deleted there is no way to determine what really happened in cases when we need to track it.

Use this in cases where you see obvious spam.

Don't act as moderator on the site, meaning don't engage in verbal conversation with users and present yourself as moderator. This will backfire and you will not enjoy being here. This is the experience I have from different site, this is why we use special accounts there which are marked as moderators and are not attached to anyone's name.

Bogdan


5/18/2010 5:00:01 PM
I have upgraded your AdlanderPlus for exactly one year. The system might automatically charge you after one year for this service. Please remind me than about it before.


Also did you get to any specifics with Barry in regards to POTW. I would like to see you around this forum.


Bogdan

In disguise, I helped with the POTW when you told me Barry was very ill and me being the sympathetic person I am - I volunteered to carry on with it until he was better. After getting a bashing there, I exposed my part in helping and never once again supported the forum. No one knew of me being a Moderator until right before I pushed my termination. Some people here knew but NO ONE in Adland knew it until recently and now EVERYONE will know, all thanks to you my ex-friend (as you told me I was no longer a friend of yours).

Many people have tried to tell you that you do not know your own enemies, I totally second that one! They are right under your nose.

Jim Clearw...

RE: If We SEE SOMETHING, We're Going To SAY SOMETHING 10/25/2011 1:55:07 PM

Peter, all I can say is "ditto", you put it very well except for leaving out the part, that my own only transgression and reason for being included in this stupendous thread and ensuing conversation. Was simply "Not a Friend" as a reason. It was time for this WITCHES broom to burn out in flames as she did. (Replace the W in witches, with the first consonant of the alphabet for true meaning) XXXOOO One thing you should have done was expose the sister advertising sites that RS's owner operates. Give a boost in business where its due. Kathleen, I suggested to you to ignore these trolls. I also suggested that the "Selling" of "Information", "Digital" Products is a legal way to earn money. Those that can't do it start sites like RS. IMHO Jim Allen III

Jim, you are completely delusional. The anonymous owner set this site up as a public service. Volunteer consumer advocates donate their time to post here. It is an open discussion site. There is no advertising here and certainly no sister site with advertising. Some people simply have a desire to serve others and exposing uneconomic schemes is part of that. Bogdan perhaps should be addressing the posts on his own site. Aren't you all just charming!

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Jimmie

I also suggested that the "Selling" of "Information", "Digital" Products is a legal way to earn money.

He's right, of course.

HOWEVER,

what's NOT legal is operating a business which purports to sell "digital products" but, in reality, allows people to make more money by recruiting than by selling the "product" and/or said "products" have little or no real value in the marketplace.

What's more, producing one or two, or even twenty or thirty people who DO sell products does NOT compensate for the fact that hundreds or thousands of people profit largely from recruitment.

It's not just a matter of whether or not people "DO" make the majority of their money by recruiting alone, it's also a matter of whether or not people "CAN"

I.O.W. it's up to the company to ensure there are procedures in place to prevent the possibility of "recruitment-only" participation or mainly-recruitment-only earning.

Don't act as moderator on the site, meaning don't engage in verbal conversation with users and present yourself as moderator. This will backfire and you will not enjoy being here. This is the experience I have from different site, this is why we use special accounts there which are marked as moderators and are not attached to anyone's name.

Any normal messageboard does not have these problems. There are plenty of moderators and admins, and are known as such, that participate with no issues at all. So he's banning/deleting under an anonymous name? Say it isn't so! lol. tool.

(Replace the W in witches, with the first consonant of the alphabet for true meaning)

Ha ha ha ha. What a child.

Kathleen, I suggested to you to ignore these trolls.

But if they ignore themselves as he suggests, who will they talk to?

Let's take a look at Bogdan's update:

Following articles might be of interests if you have been slandered by this site or if some of the anonymous users there engaged in defamation against you.

• The CDA, cyber-racketeers, the DMCA, and changes to Section 230 by Domingo Rivera
• Internet Bloggers Beware: Ohio Court Lands Another Blow Against Those Engaging in Internet Defamation
• Internet Defamation Law - Website owners and bloggers beware - The latest interpretation of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act

Duh, Bogdan let's explore this further. Your hero lawyer defined defamation for you:
Internet Defamation Lawyer | Rivera Tech Law

What is Internet Defamation?

Internet Defamation is a negative false statement of material fact published on the Internet.

A false statement of fact. I tell everyone who complains to the site to identify such statements and forward verifiable documentation to refute such statements. For the millionth time opinions are not generally actionable.

For example, recently we handled a case involving anonymous attacks against a medical doctor. These attacks were provided as "patient reviews."
....We won the hearing and discovered the identity of the anonymous author of the defamatory Internet posts. It turned out that the author was a competing doctor engaged in a "turf war."

The internet comments were not only untrue in the case cited, but made by a direct competitor with an economic incentive to attack. How does that compare to volunteer consumer advocated expressing their opinions, Bogdan?

That lawyer continues on another page of his site:

Don't forget what happened when Toys "R" Us sent a cease and desist letter to the operators of the website Roadkills-R-Us alleging "likelihood of confusion." Rather than folding to Toys "R" Us demands, Roadkills-R-Us created a satirical website about the litigation. Before threatening, make sure that you are in good legal standing and that you are ready to follow through... otherwise, the cease and desist notice that was meant to stop the defamation will be a source of Internet ridicule for your business.

Soapboxmom

Darn...if only on-line gambling weren't illegal in the US, we could get a wager pool going on:
1. Whether any of these "victims" can present any evidence to law enforcement to support the accusations they're making,
2. Whether any of them have the fortitude to file a complaint in civil court, and if so,
3. The odds that their efforts would survive the discovery phase...!
My "opinion" is NO, on all of the above...!