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Do not know how reliable it is, here is one more snippet
Originally Posted by
ScrollDog
ScrollDog got in touch with the State regulator of Utah and this is what he had to say:
“Apparently, Obopay entered into an agent relationship with Payza, wherein the money transmission was processed under the licensee name, Obopay, and all the receipting documents should state Obopay as the money transmitter. The actual facts regarding the full extent of the investigation at this point are unclear, but several states and an agency of the Federal government are investigating and communicating with each other, with the goal of reaching an amicable solution. There are customers who have had their accounts frozen and many have complained to their state regulator. Multiple states are having discussions on how best to ascertain the legitimate complaints and who is owed and how much. This process will take some time, and all regulators would appreciate your patience while this issue is being resolved.”
URL: Payza Under Fire By Homeland Security: US Based Funds Seized | ScrollDog.com – Breaking Scene News
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I'm still using payza like before and I guess more than 90% of payza users are not from US
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Originally Posted by
Fgold
I'm still using payza like before and I guess more than 90% of payza users are not from US
If Payza got into some serious problem with US, it will not help you to continue using it :)
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Originally Posted by
Fgold
I'm still using payza like before and I guess more than 90% of payza users are not from US
If you like living dangerously, why not take up skydiving ??
It's gotta be more fun than sitting around waiting for the inevitable to happen.
Do you REALLY think other countries are going to sit back and let Payza continue to operate ??
They have nearly all signed the same anti money laundering treaties.
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Originally Posted by
littleroundman
If you like living dangerously, why not take up skydiving ??
It's gotta be more fun than sitting around waiting for the inevitable to happen.
Do you REALLY think other countries are going to sit back and let Payza continue to operate ??
They have nearly all signed the same anti money laundering treaties.
There are many type of businesses(gambling, forex, ...) that are not allowed to operate with US residents but still operating in the rest of the world for years and without any problems. You can see the example of some big and reliable forex brokers and bookies who are leading the markets in europe and asia
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Originally Posted by
Fgold
There are many type of businesses(gambling, forex, ...) that are not allowed to operate with US residents but still operating in the rest of the world for years and without any problems. You can see the example of some big and reliable forex brokers and bookies who are leading the markets in europe and asia
There is online gambling allowed in the US. Just none of it goes through a scam money launderer like payza.
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Originally Posted by
Fgold
There are many type of businesses(gambling, forex, ...) that are not allowed to operate with US residents but still operating in the rest of the world for years and without any problems. You can see the example of some big and reliable forex brokers and bookies who are leading the markets in europe and asia
With the others I'm afraid, having a hard time seeing your rational for using Payza. I am reminded of a scene from Blow, where Johnny Depp goes down to Columbia to get some money from an account he opened, all gone. Government came and took it and that just seems inevitable here as well. Could you not find a bookie local who will take action, or a local casino where at least you can slurp down free drinks while losing your money?
As for Forex brokers, I could not imagine any legitimate one that would not allow at least some free transfers to a bank. In the states some accounts were limited to 3 per month, but that is doable.
Maybe you just like the action??? And that's OK, but it seems like a few added areas of unnecessary risk.
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Originally Posted by
ribshaw
As for Forex brokers, I could not imagine any legitimate one that would not allow at least some free transfers to a bank.
The broker I use to cashout by payza charges a $25 fee for bank wires so I prefer to receive funds through payza and then withdrawal payza funds to bank paying only $3 instead of $25. Would you prefer to pay more $22???
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A couple of years back(when I start working online) I received a small payment (one of my very first,actually) through Payza, which turned out to be my only Payza transaction ever....I later found that that none of the place I usually do business with accepts Payza(that's the reason why I only deal with premises that uses paypal or standard/online banking since then).Still , I keep that money in my Payza account for the chance that Payza may actually be becoming more "mainstream".I'm guessing it is safe to say that that ain't going to happen now, I guess.
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Originally Posted by
Nourjan
A couple of years back(when I start working online) I received a small payment (one of my very first,actually) through Payza, which turned out to be my only Payza transaction ever....I later found that that none of the place I usually do business with accepts Payza(that's the reason why I only deal with premises that uses paypal or standard/online banking since then).Still , I keep that money in my Payza account for the chance that Payza may actually be becoming more "mainstream".I'm guessing it is safe to say that that ain't going to happen now, I guess.
Payza is largely used in PTC, autosurfs, surveys and all other free GPT programs. Some other online businesses rarely accept it. If you don't use payza you can withdraw your funds by bank transfer paying a small fee. That's what makes payza similar to paypal but obviously not widely used...
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Some visits to the past of AlertPay, to clarify why the name change and pretended ownership switch was needed.
March 2010: AlertPay was enabling payments for sites selling a narcotic drug mephedrone, which was responsible for death of 25 kids.
SRC: Company will not stop handling Meow Meow drug payments - Wales Online
September 2010: State of New Hampshire issued Cease and Desist and administrative fine against AlertPay, CWM, Firoz & Ferham Patels
SRC: http://www.nh.gov/banking/orders/enf...ay-otsc-cd.pdf
Novemeber 2010: Messy ownership war over AlertPay
SRC: Shares of AlertPay's CEO may go on block
November 2011: Montreal Gazette article featuring an AlertPay employee blowing a whistle on inside operations of AlertPay,
Alertpay was accused of dealing with online narcotic sales , child pornography and investment scams. A whistleblower also claimed that operators knew
what activity the clients were involved in.
AlertPay fought back, brought a defamation suit against a whistleblower, dig some dirt on him (a guy was not exactly an angel as well), and cleaned up the internets
from the materials.
some piece / remaining SRC: https://web.archive.org/web/20111127...861/story.html
2012: the whistlblower employee (Tero Pollanen) and Payza started messy campaigns online to defaminate each other
firoz-patel-alertpay.blogspot.com (now forced offline)
against Pollanen:
Tero Pollanen | Exposed and Unveiled
Payment Scam Tero Pollanen
P.S.: LRM, feel free to post some screenshots if you think they needed here.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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Bye Bye US, Hello UK !!!
For some time I was puzzled what made UK FSA to remove Payza from the list of Unathorized companies, where they placed it in early 2013 and removed in late 2013
PAYZA_UK_alert.jpg
Archive: [ARCHIVED CONTENT] Warning: unauthorised firms and individuals
Now it is clear what happened. MH Pillars is out of the picture.
On Dec 20 , Payza registered a new company in UK - PAYZA.COM LIMITED (ID: 08822957)
PAYZA_UK_ltd.jpg
And registered it with UK FCA as "Small Electronic Money Institution"
PAYZA_FCA_reg.jpg
URL: FCA - E-Money Register
On January 14 2014, Payza announced that they now will serve UK residents
URL: https://blog.payza.com/payza-updates...nited-kingdom/
it is time for UK BB victims to demand payments through Payza or demand an excuse why not :)
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So MH Pillars, AlertPay and the shady US business partner are all out of the picture - sounds like Payza is really cleaning up its act!
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AlertPay = Payza, Patels are in charge and always been, i do not know anyone more "shady" than them in this entire picture.
MH Pillars was also them. just a hiding switchuru, Gosh, why people assume MH Pillars is somethin ? it never existed before Payza, was created specifically to pretend transfer from Patels to Graham puppet and change the name to Payza.
After they got cold shoulder in UK being MH Pillars and involved in so many scam transactions, UK ceased their operations over there.
So here you go they formed a new company (Payza.Com Ltd), does it change anything at all with those shifts between companies they formed ? NO, it is still Patels.
I do not even want to go into details how they created egopay.
Last edited by NikSam; 01-23-2014 at 11:09 PM.
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None of the sources you've shown are about Payza, they're all about AlertPay which no longer exists. Payza is the only legit alternative to PayPal and if you keep going with the smear campaigns then we won't have ANY alternatives.
PS. You're obviously grasping at straws if you're suggesting that they created their own competitor.
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Originally Posted by
Dougg
None of the sources you've shown are about Payza, they're all about AlertPay which no longer exists. Payza is the only legit alternative to PayPal and if you keep going with the smear campaigns then we won't have ANY alternatives.
PS. You're obviously grasping at straws if you're suggesting that they created their own competitor.
Why do you need any alternative to any of the other already existing legitimate pay sources?
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You gotta be kidding, please re-read entire thread , start with Firoz Patel scam adventures in 2006.
AlertPay is Payza, Payza is AlertPay, even same office in Montreal, QC , just switching signs on the door :)
Did you really thouth for a second they were ever in UK ? :)
You can call it WhatTheHellPayZa if you want, it is still same old Patels outfit.
Educate yourself on a topic first, before confronting someone
Alertpay_payza.jpg
URL: Payza is live: MHPillars Ltd acquires award-winning platform
Oh you want alternatives, there are plenty, PerefectMoney, SolidTrustPay, okpay, same patel's EgoPay and more, just pick your favorite money launderer :)
If you want something which plays by the rules , legal in US, and follows AML policies to the letter, less likely will have a problems with law, sorry your choices are limited, its is PayPal, Google Wallet, AmazonPayments and maybe Dwolla.
Please explain your need in such a payment processor which normal means of payment or PayPal cannot fulfill ? perhaps you are trying to do something you not suppose to by law.
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Originally Posted by
NikSam
Please explain your need in such a payment processor which normal means of payment or PayPal cannot fulfill ? perhaps you are trying to do something you not suppose to by law.
Its easy to know the reason why thousands of users prefer payza instead of paypal specially in some regions where they cannot use paypal.
People who chose payza don't care about such ridiculous laws and the only laws they care are god laws and NOT laws that serves only to help the enrichment of political rulers...
Admin note: This poster is not authorized to speak on behalf of Payza. This poster is in no way affiliated with Payza.
Last edited by Soapboxmom; 01-26-2015 at 04:07 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Payzateam
Its easy to know the reason why thousands of users prefer payza instead of paypal specially in some regions where they cannot use paypal.
People who chose payza don't care about such ridiculous laws and the only laws they care are god laws and NOT laws that serves only to help the enrichment of political rulers...
Do not know which gods you worship over there at Payza, but i never heard such god's laws as closing eyes on investment fraud,drug trafficking, terrorism financing, credit card fraud, enabling child pornography and letting criminals to get away with their loot.
This kind of clients you want for yourself ?
AML policies and cross border transaction monitoring did not come just because governments wanted a piece.
Also your clients do not prefer Payza over Paypal, they also use Paypal when they do legal transfers, most of your users use Payza because there is a MLM Pyramid or a Ponzi or a Warez site or some other cybercriminals take only it or other shady processors.
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Originally Posted by
NikSam
Do not know which gods you worship over there at Payza, but i never heard such god's laws as closing eyes on investment fraud,drug trafficking, terrorism financing, credit card fraud, enabling child pornography and letting criminals to get away with their loot.
This kind of clients you want for yourself ?
AML policies and cross border transaction monitoring did not come just because governments wanted a piece.
Also your clients do not prefer Payza over Paypal, they also use Paypal when they do legal transfers, most of your users use Payza because there is a MLM Pyramid or a Ponzi or a Warez site or some other cybercriminals take only it or other shady processors.
Such ridiculous laws that exist in paypal policies and don't exist in payza are totally worthless. As I said above serves only to help the enrichment of such rulers by charging more fees but it has absolutely no efficiency in the prevention of money laundering and all other cibercrimes...
You should take a look at payza T&C where its described our anti money laundering policies. Payza does not close eyes to criminal activities you refer above.
And clients who live in a country where paypal is not supported they can only use payza legally...
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Originally Posted by
Payzateam
.... Payza does not close eyes to criminal activities you refer above. ....
Oh please, cut the crap.
Yes you did announce that financial fraud is no longer welcome at Payza on July 20, 2012 (right when you created anarchist's EgoPay just for those criminals)
But if in just 10 mins i could spot ten of investment frauds you currently enable or recently enabled (and let criminals to run with the money), what the hell you paying money for to your "compliance department" ?
Do you need some freaking court decision to tell you who is conducting crime, are you brain dead ? do i need to remind you that any investment activity is regulated in Canada (+Quebec) as well as in UK (or any freaking banana island if you want), did you ever verify if fraudsters who use you posses any authorization to solicit public ?
Here is a small list of your criminal clients, i spent just 10 minutes to spot:
dailyshare.pro
investskril.com
paypinvest.com
egopayhyip.com
solcash.com
adclickxpress.com
uecentre.com
sunbirdforex.com
3pamm.com
BannersBroker.com
adhitprofits.com
As for the rest type of crimes, i will leave it to the appropriate agencies to deal with you.
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