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    Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Energy of 14 (a.k.a. "Direct Money") appears to be a classic pyramid scheme, with a board design that reminds
    one of both Elite Activity and of Donna Bello's womens gifting tables.

    As Jason Mangan blared on Facebook, January 18,
    IF YOUR DREAM IS BIG ENOUGH THE FACTS DO NOT COUNT
    And on the 9th, he posted this:
    I Can't wait to get on that 160 Thousand Dollar Board. That's 4 of my selective exclusive friends sending me 320 thousand

    dollars each on the 160K Board. Yayyyy!!!!

    2015 is going to be amazing!!!!!
    Judging by these quotes, he probably failed Remedial Honesty 001 and badly needs a refresher course on
    basic arithmetic.


    Although Energy of 14 claims to not be a gifting program, their structure and business plan violates the same
    laws which cash gifting does. For those unfamiliar with them, please review
    https://www.realscam.com/f42/cash-gi...ate-state-2052



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    The head crook.

    Jason Richard Mangan

    7409 Catalpa Ave.,
    Woodridge, IL 60517

    jason.mangan111@gmail.com
    jedigold@outlook.com
    847-305-7407
    http://www.energyof14.com
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBXVaAg0oMI
    https://plus.google.com/107697705225188795286/posts
    https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mangan/66/847/304
    http://www.facebook.com/jason.r.mangan
    http://www.uberconference.com/howmayiserve
    https://www.uberconference.com/getmp...q_jmTiluzQ.mp3
    http://mangan.nowsender.com
    http://www.charm.arealbreakthrough.com (shared with Charlotte)
    http://www.jedigold.com
    https://twitter.com/jedimastermind1
    http://instagram.com/jasonmangan
    https://www.youtube.com/user/jasonmangan111
    https://plus.google.com/103613524298638674118/posts
    http://karatgroup1.yolasite.com/jedigold.php

    Domain Name: JEDIGOLD.COM
    Registry Domain ID: 1863287351_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
    Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
    Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
    Update Date: 2014-06-18T05:28:36Z
    Creation Date: 2014-06-18T05:28:36Z
    Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-06-18T05:28:36Z
    Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
    Registrar IANA ID: 146
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
    Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
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    Registry Registrant ID:
    Registrant Name: Jason Mangan
    Registrant Organization:
    Registrant Street: 7409 Catalpa Ave
    Registrant City: Woodridge
    Registrant State/Province: Illinois
    Registrant Postal Code: 60517
    Registrant Country: United States
    Registrant Phone: +1.8473057407
    Registrant Phone Ext:
    Registrant Fax:
    Registrant Fax Ext:
    Registrant Email: jason.mangan111@gmail.com
    Registry Admin ID:
    Admin Name: Jason Mangan
    Admin Organization:
    Admin Street: 7409 Catalpa Ave
    Admin City: Woodridge
    Admin State/Province: Illinois
    Admin Postal Code: 60517
    Admin Country: United States
    Admin Phone: +1.8473057407
    Admin Phone Ext:
    Admin Fax:
    Admin Fax Ext:
    Admin Email: jason.mangan111@gmail.com
    Registry Tech ID:
    Tech Name: Jason Mangan
    Tech Organization:
    Tech Street: 7409 Catalpa Ave
    Tech City: Woodridge
    Tech State/Province: Illinois
    Tech Postal Code: 60517
    Tech Country: United States
    Tech Phone: +1.8473057407
    Tech Phone Ext:
    Tech Fax:
    Tech Fax Ext:
    Tech Email: jason.mangan111@gmail.com
    Name Server: NS47.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    Name Server: NS48.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
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    Co-Founder & Director of this scam.

    Charlotte Mangan (a.k.a. Charlotte Jandes)

    moneymakingsecretsfreecd@gmail.com
    https://www.facebook.com/charlotte.jandes
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Money...vealed-Free-CD
    https://plus.google.com/106873977311696527834/posts
    https://www.youtube.com/user/cjandes

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    Jason's yes-man, sycophant and shill spreading the scams.

    Ryan Sirbaugh

    7620 E McKellips Rd. #4-39,
    Scottsdale, AZ, 85257

    4806483472
    https://twitter.com/RDSirbaugh
    https://www.facebook.com/PowerPathGDI?fref=ufi
    http://www.SupportCaring.com
    http://instagram.com/rdsirby
    http://www.andthanks2u.com/?supportcaring
    http://about.me/ryan.sirbaugh
    http://goldn.com
    https://twitter.com/supportcaring
    http://onemilliondomains.org
    http://www.thinktankgroup.org

    Domain Name: SUPPORTCARING.COM
    Registry Domain ID: 1627304366_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
    Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
    Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
    Update Date: 2014-11-26T11:57:39Z
    Creation Date: 2010-11-25T19:26:54Z
    Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-11-25T19:26:54Z
    Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
    Registrar IANA ID: 146
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
    Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
    Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
    Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
    Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
    Registry Registrant ID:
    Registrant Name: RD SIRBAUGH
    Registrant Organization:
    Registrant Street: 7620 E MCKELLIPS RD
    Registrant Street: SUITE #4
    Registrant City: SCOTTSDALE
    Registrant State/Province: Arizona
    Registrant Postal Code: 85257
    Registrant Country: United States
    Registrant Phone: +1.4806483472
    Registrant Phone Ext:
    Registrant Fax: +1.4806483472
    Registrant Fax Ext:
    Registrant Email: ONEMILLIONDOMAINS@GMAIL.COM
    Registry Admin ID:
    Admin Name: RD SIRBAUGH
    Admin Organization:
    Admin Street: 7620 E MCKELLIPS RD
    Admin Street: SUITE #4
    Admin City: SCOTTSDALE
    Admin State/Province: Arizona
    Admin Postal Code: 85257
    Admin Country: United States
    Admin Phone: +1.4806483472
    Admin Phone Ext:
    Admin Fax: +1.4806483472
    Admin Fax Ext:
    Admin Email: ONEMILLIONDOMAINS@GMAIL.COM
    Registry Tech ID:
    Tech Name: RD SIRBAUGH
    Tech Organization:
    Tech Street: 7620 E MCKELLIPS RD
    Tech Street: SUITE #4
    Tech City: SCOTTSDALE
    Tech State/Province: Arizona
    Tech Postal Code: 85257
    Tech Country: United States
    Tech Phone: +1.4806483472
    Tech Phone Ext:
    Tech Fax: +1.4806483472
    Tech Fax Ext:
    Tech Email: ONEMILLIONDOMAINS@GMAIL.COM
    Name Server: NS69.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    Name Server: NS70.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
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    The man who made their ad video. Hmm... shouldn't he have recognized a scam while editing it?

    Rick Greene
    https://www.facebook.com/rick.greene.129

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    Several people who seem likely to be members


    Randall Magley

    https://www.facebook.com/randymagley

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    Jay Sengdara

    10771 Iona Island Ave.,
    Las Vegas, NV 89166

    jaysengdara@gmail.com
    702-979-0345
    https://www.facebook.com/startwithgold
    http://instagram.com/goldwithjay/
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpR...a8nfy76c9Tz6AA
    https://plus.google.com/106412878636790499283/posts
    http://www.myadpost.com/jaysengdara
    http://www.goldwithjay.com

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    The one running the conference/cult indoctrination calls?

    David Claar

    https://www.facebook.com/d.c.claar

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    Sabrina Charles

    https://www.facebook.com/christine.jimgubitosi

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    Adam Frye

    AdamWFrye@yahoo.com
    443-942-2818
    https://www.facebook.com/adam.frye.52
    http://AdamusGold.com
    http://karatgroupsite.com/adamusgold.html

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    Dean Payne

    https://www.facebook.com/dean.payne.353

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    Javier & Mary Silva

    https://www.facebook.com/JavierandMarySilva
    myonlinebizsystem.com (DO NOT VISIT! Website attacks with aggressive malware.)
    https://www.facebook.com/MyOnlineBizSystemFanPage
    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005980741624

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    Lesa Fox

    youngerthanyouknow@yahoo.com
    301-442-4720
    http://www.youngerthanyouknow.com
    http://www.facesbyfox.nerium.com
    https://www.facebook.com/lesa.d.fox
    https://www.facebook.com/thesecrettolifecoaching
    http://www.letlifesoar.com

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    Anthony Joyce

    https://www.facebook.com/anthony.joyce.754

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    Stephen Watson

    2702 Paoli Pike Apt. 167,
    New Albany, IN 47150

    avalononecorp@gmail.com
    502-396-6732
    https://www.facebook.com/stephen.watson.906638
    http://www.globalwealthtrade.com/avalonone
    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bzhs...1TaUFBZ0U/edit (describes Direct Money pyramid)
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Globa...93196337456399
    http://www.globalwealthtrade.net
    https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=99261617

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    Alissa Buckstead

    https://www.facebook.com/alissa.mills0915

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    Mac Grant

    https://www.facebook.com/macs.autoplus
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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money



    Charlotte Mangan (Morlan) charlotte.jandes page on Facebook



    Charlotte Jandes' cjandes channel on YouTube
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins


    Mac Grants' macs.autoplus page on Facebook
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins


    Alissa Bucksteads' alissa.mills0915 page on Facebook
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    GOOD GRIEF !!!

    There's enough bul***** in this not-so-secret invitation video by Jason Mangan to keep a whole field of strawberries fed for a year

    What a lot of rationalizing and justifying the fact he's running an endless chain recruitment / cash gifting scheme that's both illegal and going to cause upward of 90% of its' participants to lose every cent they invest.

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    As one can see from their own diagrams, both in the earlier name of Direct Money and in the 'final' name of Energy of 14, what we have here is a pure money shuffling fraud scheme using a variant of the Airplane Game structure. It meets all of the requirements to be a pyramid scheme, as well as being an investment contract under the Howey Test.

    energyof14-moneytheftentry.jpgenergyof14-moneytheftpattern.jpgenergyof14-moneytheftpattern-2.jpg

    energyof14-boards.jpgenergyof14-bonuses.jpg
    If you are in Prosper With Integrity, and do not like that your personal information has been published here, please talk to these good people: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov http://www.ic3.gov http://www.fbi.gov

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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Something you learn after a few years of watching cash gifters is the fact they all seem to live in a parallel universe where calling cash gifting something like "making contributions" makes what they are doing somehow less illegal.

    Take this little gem from the Energy of 14 Benefits and Services page



    How funny is that ???

    You're not cash gifting, you're "contributing"


    AND

    in return you'll receive........ummm..........err.........

    Nothing you can't get for free from a squillion places on the 'net.

    Oh, and let's not forget the "Access to EXCLUSIVE Networking and Investment Opportunities With Other Members"

    IOW, be prepared to not only lose your $100 "contribution" (and you will) but you will also find yourself on the spam email lists of several hundred other members who are desperate to try and recoup some of THEIR losses
    Last edited by littleroundman; 01-26-2015 at 06:11 AM.
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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Christine F. Gubitosi (a.k.a. "Sabrina Charles")

    104 Parker Drive,
    Middletown, DE 19709

    (2008 - bank action against the couple)
    628 CORBIT DRIVE,
    MIDDLETOWN, DE 19709

    christinegubitosi@verizon.net
    sabrinacharlesassociates@gmail.com

    302-530-7891
    Sabrina Charles Publications
    The Creating Miracles Team - Home
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheCreatingMiraclesTeam
    https://www.facebook.com/christine.jimgubitosi
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Y...53624891575446
    The YOUniverse Within
    https://www.facebook.com/SabrinaCharlesPublications
    The Natural Little Sunflower
    TAP IT TWICE
    https://www.facebook.com/TheNaturalLittleSunflower
    https://twitter.com/scpublications
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy3...1iP6d776p8AkUQ
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheC...usRevolYOUtion
    https://plus.google.com/100367993898875876777
    http://www.havebedosuccess.com
    Cj Entrepreneurial Enterprises, LLC in Middletown DE - Company Profile
    https://www.pinterest.com/SCPublications
    Christine G. - Meetup


    And just how stupid is she?
    Let her FAQ tell you for herself,
    Frequently Asked Questions

    What is the name of this new club: The name is Energy of 14.
    I can't seem to find any background information about this club; why is that? This is a ground floor opportunity to a
    brand new community club that was created in January, 2015.
    This system sounds a lot like Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) does it qualify for that label? No it doesn't. MLM's deal with
    the sales of tangible products. Energy of 14 does not sell any products.
    Is this a pyramid scheme? This is NOT a pyramid scheme. Pyramids have a bottom where as this system runs in perpetuity; a never ending collective.
    Is this a forced matrix system? No it is not. This is a Loving Leadership Matrix, as defined by the founder.
    Am I paid commissions from this company/organization? First, funds are generated member to member via the Private Economy Bonus Program; No funds are earned from Energy of 14. Second, none of these funds are considered commissions; they are direct earnings, or bonuses, as they are referred to as, which you receive 100% of. There aren't any percentages that are distributed anywhere else.
    Is this an investment group? No.
    Is this a Ponzi scheme? MOST DEFINITELY NOT.
    Is this a company? No.
    Is this a business opportunity? No. This is a closed, Private Economy and Personal Development Club.
    Is this system legal according the FCC & IRS standards (in the US)? Yes it is. The reason is because in US and Canada, it
    is illegal to share or gift money (up to a specific amount) without the transfer of a tangible product or service. This
    organization provides, in exchange for your $100, access to the members services as listed above. A detail list of services
    available will be provided as the club develops.
    Are there any hidden fees or costs that are not mentioned above? $100 is the only contribution you will need to make to
    join this Private Economy/Personal Development Club. There are no monthly fees or dues to pay.
    How many people are required to bring into the Energy of 14? You are only required to bring in 2 people, however you are
    welcome to invite and bring in as many people as you'd like, providing they share the same visions and goals.

    She has NO bloody clue what a pyramid is.

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    Also, further Ryan Sirbaugh sites

    https://www.blogger.com/profile/01686799788619272859
    http://www.sportscardssite.com
    Needs For Leads - Helping Affiliates Grow Their Online Business
    Energy of 14 People Changing the World.
    Buy Grams of Gold With Free Gold Savings Account
    Snappingly.com Snap Pic-Tag It-Sell It-Buy It-Meet People-Find It
    Forced Matrix Affiliate Programs-How to Earn Online
    Support Caring By Joining Our Free Programs. Redistributing Wealth.: CONTACT US

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    Robert Pressley

    3333 Piedmont Rd., Suite 2050,
    Atlanta GA, 30305

    1019 Old Monrovia Rd., Ste. 145,
    Huntsville, AL 35806

    helpme@help1up.com
    directmoney@help1up.com
    rsvp@help1up.com
    347-593-6314
    WELCOME TO DIRECT MONEY

    Googling Robert Pressley in Huntsville brings up some... interesting... hits.


    Domain Name: HELP1DIRECTMONEY.COM
    Registry Domain ID:
    Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.launchpad.com
    Registrar URL: LaunchPad.com
    Updated Date: 2015-01-09T20:18:45Z
    Creation Date: 2014-09-16T15:10:19Z
    Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-09-16T15:10:19Z
    Registrar: Launchpad, Inc. (HostGator)
    Registrar IANA ID: 955
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@websitewelcome.com
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.713-574-5287
    Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
    Registry Registrant ID:
    Registrant Name: robert pressley
    Registrant Organization: 1
    Registrant Street: 1019 old monrovia rd ste145
    Registrant City: huntsville
    Registrant State/Province: AL
    Registrant Postal Code: 35806
    Registrant Country: US
    Registrant Phone: +1.3475936314
    Registrant Phone Ext:
    Registrant Fax:
    Registrant Fax Ext:
    Registrant Email: questions@help1up.com
    Registry Admin ID:
    Admin Name: robert pressley
    Admin Organization: 1
    Admin Street: 1019 old monrovia rd ste145
    Admin City: huntsville
    Admin State/Province: AL
    Admin Postal Code: 35806
    Admin Country: US
    Admin Phone: +1.3475936314
    Admin Phone Ext:
    Admin Fax:
    Admin Fax Ext:
    Admin Email: questions@help1up.com
    Registry Tech ID:
    Tech Name: robert pressley
    Tech Organization: 1
    Tech Street: 1019 old monrovia rd ste145
    Tech City: huntsville
    Tech State/Province: AL
    Tech Postal Code: 35806
    Tech Country: US
    Tech Phone: +1.3475936314
    Tech Phone Ext:
    Tech Fax:
    Tech Fax Ext:
    Tech Email: questions@help1up.com
    Name Server: ns1.help1directmoney.com
    Name Server: ns2.help1directmoney.com
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    An older variation?

    evejorda2.wix.com/help1upinstructions

    Evelyn Jordan, eh? I remember that name from several older gifting scams.

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    And here is another, Cynthia Yerokun whose name I don't recognize.
    https://plus.google.com/113861351000...ts/SLkXgDuQzFc
    https://www.facebook.com/cynthia.yerokun
    prowoz@gmail.com
    240-421-1698
    770-693-0819

    Seems like Cynthia falls for every financial fraud under the Sun.

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    More Direct Money fraud...

    Kathy Walker
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Indep...441932?fref=nf


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    Another older member... a dinar dodo.

    Melita Scott

    0207tiger@gmail.com
    702-723-7324
    https://twitter.com/tigernewyork
    Karatbars - Shop site
    http://failingyourwaytobusinesssuccess.info

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    Jonathan Gibbs

    sdaman56@yahoo.com
    239-834-3904
    239-849-2315
    910-527-5820
    http://re-legends.net/private-invite//ref=7thday
    imhired.us

    He was co-advertising Direct Money and RE 24/7/365 together for a while.

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    Joseph Giles

    48 Dulaney Place,
    Columbia, South Carolina 29229

    oneto10k@aol.com
    803-917-3959
    https://twitter.com/oneto10k
    WELCOME TO DIRECT MONEY
    Instagram
    Welcome
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephbgiles
    https://www.facebook.com/Billion8
    http://10to30kamonth.com
    http://receivingcashdaily.com
    http://athousandtimesmore.com
    http://busybankaccount.com
    If you are in Prosper With Integrity, and do not like that your personal information has been published here, please talk to these good people: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov http://www.ic3.gov http://www.fbi.gov

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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money



    Json Mangans' jason.r.mangan page on Facebook

    SERIOUSLY ???

    Four sane, rational people are going to send this guy $320 thousand each ???



    Yea, right, sure they are.

    In the Magic Kingdom, maybe,



    In real life ???

    You gotta be kiddin' me
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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money



    Joseph Benjamin Giles' Billion8 page on Facebook



    Joseph Giles' josephgiles profile on LinkedIn
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins
    More Direct Money fraud...

    Kathy Walker
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Indep...441932?fref=nf


    Kathy Walkers' Independent-Marketing-Executive-Team page on Facebook
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Duane Bolden (a.k.a. Skip Bolden)

    4041 Arch Drive #211,
    Studio City, CA 91604

    skip91604@yahoo.com
    818-276-7100
    818-762-1093
    http://www.skipbolden.com
    https://www.facebook.com/thehollywoodVJ
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Skip-...67736083362009
    http://karatgroupsite.com/goldfingr-4.html
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcE...uWCadTujAvvGiA
    https://www.youtube.com/user/skipboldenimages/videos
    https://plus.google.com/113012035955872820416/posts
    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/duane-h-bolden/18/147/766
    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/skip-bolden/27/41/589
    https://twitter.com/thehollywoodvj
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4862196
    http://vimeo.com/skipbolden
    https://www.facebook.com/duane.bolden
    https://www.pinterest.com/skipbolden
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mindset-on-Wealth


    He's also proud to be a part of the Global Information Network scam.
    I don't think that http://www.globalhumanservices.org will appreciate his connecting them to tainted money.


    Domain Name: SKIPBOLDEN.COM
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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    I received this private missive from Ryan Sirbaugh a short time ago.


    Cool Energyof14 and defamation of character.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

    Like any new endeavor, it takes a while to get all kinks out of the system. The business is less than a few weeks old for God's sake. Until you have proof Energyof14 is wrong, I highly urge you to take your post down. The business is in compliance with FTC rules. You sure have a lot to say when you know nothing or very little. You sadden me. Our membership club has so many beautiful offers. SLEEP ON IT...Prepare for a lawsuit if you cannot find the capacity to tell the truth.

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    Do I really need to point out to him that a lawsuit would a disaster for his career?
    First of all, in order to prove defamation in a courtroom, you need to specifiy what is defmatory.
    Secondly, when you make a business based on a structure that is used as the ur-example of what a pyramid scheme on attorney general website after attorney general website, it isn't the Federal Trade Commission's rules you should be worrying about.
    Third, when your own social media links smack of conspiracy theories, tax protest, and Hell forbid, simony, you aren't very likely to have enough of an understanding of the legal system to be able to avoid having your own SLAPP turned back in your face, making you the defendant rather than the plaintiff.

    Ryan, I will say that having read your and Jason's works, I am highly dubious that you could be employed by IARPA in any capacity. It's just not plausible even with the legendary blunders of the American government. You stretch suspension of disbelief to the breaking point.
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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Shh, don't tell him things like that,

    let him go ahead and sue.

    PLEASE, Ryan, don't just talk about it, DO IT
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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Shh, don't tell him things like that,

    let him go ahead and sue.

    PLEASE, Ryan, don't just talk about it, DO IT

    Why? If I'm going to be sued, I would rather it be someone who can tell the differences between a tonsillectomy, a muu-muu, and (2R,3R,4S,5S,6R)-2-[(2S,3S,4S,5R)-3,4-dihydroxy-2,5-bis(hydroxymethyl)oxapent-2-yl]oxy-6-(hydroxymethyl)oxahexane-3,4,5-triol) without going to reference materials.
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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Now why did someone suddenly revive this thread with a link to Ryan's message in #17?
    I wonder what is up... and seeing Ryan's new gofundme as well as his social media endorsements of America's least articulate leader in history, I would hazard a guess that this thread is impacting his attempts to start a "crowdfunding" project of some kind.
    Given Ryan's past performance and his recent "opportunity" affiliate links, I would not be at all surprised that he has confused cash gifting for crowdfunding like so many others I have seen online of late.
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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins View Post
    Now why did someone suddenly revive this thread with a link to Ryan's message in #17?
    I wonder what is up... and seeing Ryan's new gofundme as well as his social media endorsements of America's least articulate leader in history, I would hazard a guess that this thread is impacting his attempts to start a "crowdfunding" project of some kind.
    Judging by the reported posts received in the past few days, you could be right.

    Funny thing is, the complainants claim to be different people, but came from the same (new) username.
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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    That's interesting, LRM.
    Who are the people they claimed to be? Anyone we ought to know?
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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Shouldn't this be in the Cash Gifting thread?
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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Shouldn't this be in the Cash Gifting thread?
    Probably. I do not recall why I started it here instead.
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    Re: Energy of 14/Direct Money

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Shouldn't this be in the Cash Gifting thread?
    voilą......

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