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    I have no problems admitting that you scare me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Textex View Post
    So you're scared, too? LOL
    as I said, "scintillating wit"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post
    I have no problems admitting that you scare me.
    Wow, that's the first time somebody has admitted they got scared of me by turning down a confidential phone call. But it's a wonderful, diverse world we live in, isn't it? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    as I said, "scintillating wit"
    Better than a nitwit, littleroundman. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Textex View Post
    Wow, that's the first time somebody has admitted they got scared of me by turning down a confidential phone call. But it's a wonderful, diverse world we live in, isn't it? LOL
    You are clearly unaware of the hostility you exude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post
    You are clearly unaware of the hostility you exude.
    You are clearly unaware of the fear and stupidity you exude. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Textex View Post
    Confident people reach out, scared people lash out. So you're scared, too? LOL
    Textex,

    You are way out of line plain and simple. This is an open discussions site and we respect the wish of our members to stay anonymous. We also respect their right not to be bullied by some anonymous troll who is asking to make contact with them.

    It is not about being scared or not doing what is right to address the many egregious scams out there. It is about being safe and sensible. Anything you should wish to do in your efforts to expose Amway that is legitimate should not need to be kept secret. So, what are you afraid of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    Textex,

    You are way out of line plain and simple. This is an open discussions site and we respect the wish of our members to stay anonymous. We also respect their right not to be bullied by some anonymous troll who is asking to make contact with them.

    It is not about being scared or not doing what is right to address the many egregious scams out there. It is about being safe and sensible. Anything you should wish to do in your efforts to expose Amway that is legitimate should not need to be kept secret. So, what are you afraid of?
    What is out of line about asking to talk?

    I am also NOT anonymous (read my blog), nor a troll.

    I'm not trying to violate anybody's anonymity.

    I offered a conference call with an ability to keep your number confidential, or communicate via Skype.

    If you're scared I will somehow misuse your Skype account, get an additonal one specifically for our discussions.

    Exactly how does anybody "bully" somebody on a blog? LOL

    Your definition of "safe and sensible" is doing very little, and if that's okay with you, it's okay with me.

    As I explained above, I'm not interested in showing Amway the "playbook." In fact, it isn't safe or sensible to do so.

    I'm not afraid of anything, with the exception typing my fingers to the bone with this nonsense about being scared about making a simple phone call. LOL

    What you people don't get is I don't WANT to work with you if you're scared, so stay scared and keep to yourselves. I have no problem with that. LOL

    Let me guess - you're too scared to talk as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Textex View Post
    I don't recall ribshaw saying, "Me no likely."
    He said it on another thread, always yammering about something that one is. More so when he does not have enough sandwich left over to feed the pigeons.

    I just checked and there are 667 users on line, which is pretty much the norm at any given time. Who knows why they are here or for what they might be researching. Some will be able to save their money from one pernicious game or another. There is NO more cost effective way to get that many people in one place and give them information. I think you underestimate the power of the written word versus whatever your plan to shutter Amway might be. Amway operates similar to a cult in keeping messages simple, repeating them often, separating members from unbelievers, then letting visions of financial freedom take over. Nothing has changed in almost forty years of their methods or their lack of results for the 99% of distributors FTC be damned.

    There is an old saying "You can't cheat an honest man", which is mostly true as it relates to confidence games. We have NO way of knowing how many people did not get roped into something because of what was written here,there, or elsewhere. It will never be zero, life just doesn't work that way. I will be interested to see what happens with Herbalife, but right now I am betting on a lil slappy poo, a new mission statement, and business as usual. With that environment, me thinks it best to give people information and hope they process it and make sound decision.

    Good luck just the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    He said it on another thread, always yammering about something that one is. More so when he does not have enough sandwich left over to feed the pigeons.

    I just checked and there are 667 users on line, which is pretty much the norm at any given time. Who knows why they are here or for what they might be researching. Some will be able to save their money from one pernicious game or another. There is NO more cost effective way to get that many people in one place and give them information. I think you underestimate the power of the written word versus whatever your plan to shutter Amway might be. Amway operates similar to a cult in keeping messages simple, repeating them often, separating members from unbelievers, then letting visions of financial freedom take over. Nothing has changed in almost forty years of their methods or their lack of results for the 99% of distributors FTC be damned.

    There is an old saying "You can't cheat an honest man", which is mostly true as it relates to confidence games. We have NO way of knowing how many people did not get roped into something because of what was written here,there, or elsewhere. It will never be zero, life just doesn't work that way. I will be interested to see what happens with Herbalife, but right now I am betting on a lil slappy poo, a new mission statement, and business as usual. With that environment, me thinks it best to give people information and hope they process it and make sound decision.

    Good luck just the same.
    "He" said it? Do you normally refer to yourself in the 3rd person?

    Thanks for proving my point:
    1. "Nothing has changed in almost forty years of their methods or their lack of results for the 99% of distributors...." then "I think you underestimate the power of the written word versus whatever your plan to shutter Amway might be." I think you grossly overestimate how consequential this blog is, and the results are the proof.
    2. I just check, and there are 3 on this thread. LOL
    3. "Who knows why they are here or for what they might be researching." - I think it's mainly people endlessly typing and refusing to make a simple phone call.
    4. How many people are being scammed by FHTM right now? It is zero, life works that way when you apply yourselves.
    5. You're interested in "watching" the Herbalife saga, I'm interested in LEVERAGING it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Textex View Post
    "He" said it? Do you normally refer to yourself in the 3rd person?
    Your query makes ribshaw giggle.

    I got three favorite cars, that get most of my job done. I got "and", "but", and "or", They'll get you pretty far. "And": That's an additive, like "this and that".
    "But": That's sort of the opposite, "Not this *but* that". And then there's "or":


    Quote Originally Posted by Textex View Post
    2. I just check, and there are 3 on this thread. LOL
    Yes but there are 2500 threads, maybe if you would share more folks would take interest. I mean how long are you going to really keep it a secret if it is any good? Surely when someone at Amway realizes all the drinking fountains are plugged with Bubblicious word will spread.

    These folks are doing something here, mostly my mum and her sewing club but whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Textex View Post
    Thanks for proving my point:

    1. "Nothing has changed in almost forty years of their methods or their lack of results for the 99% of distributors...." then "I think you underestimate the power of the written word versus whatever your plan to shutter Amway might be." I think you grossly overestimate how consequential this blog is, and the results are the proof.
    Trying to get you dig a little deeper into WHY people continue to join Amway and WHY the government has failed to act, may help you with your quest. One seldom hears about people that don't join and the reason why. But if I helped prove a point for you, then no need to thank me I try not to keep score.

    Quote Originally Posted by Textex View Post
    4. How many people are being scammed by FHTM right now? It is zero, life works that way when you apply yourselves.
    5. You're interested in "watching" the Herbalife saga, I'm interested in LEVERAGING it.
    Its like this in the world I call home: Raj Rajaratnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and Angelo Mozilo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for all intents and purposes did the same thing, some variation of insider trading. One will be sitting in jail for a very long time, the other on a yacht somewheres. And don't get me started on these crooked assholes who couldn't even tolerate a piece of watered down legislation that tromped on their avarice Congress Quietly Repeals Congressional Insider Trading Ban · NYU Local

    All that to say, FHTM aint Amway and the law is not applied equally when a company is or has filled the pockets of the folks who are supposed to enforce it.

    But again good luck, I hope you prove me wrong. I am plenty tired of being pestered with some variation of "hey do you want to make some money on the side", and it turns out to be Amway or dressing like Little Bo Peep.
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    I suggest you read my entire blog, then try making an intelligent comment. I'll forget more about Amway than you'll ever learn. And try to stay on the Amway topic next time, you were all over the place with that last little "gem."

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    Re: Amway Is The Trunk Of The MLM Tree, Let's Chop It Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Textex
    Let me guess -
    That's exactly what everyone is doing - letting you guess at the reasons you're not getting what you want, how you want it.

    Here, let me have a go at a Textex style "guess"

    Quote Originally Posted by Textex
    I've been blogging about Amway and other MLM scams since 2005
    MY "guess' is, with your attitude, you'll still be blogging about Amway in 2025 and still "guessing" at the reasons you can't get anyone interested in joining you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Textex
    I've been blogging about Amway and other MLM scams since 2005, and this is the first time I found this blog,
    MY "guess" would be the reason for that is you aren't very good at using Google

    Quote Originally Posted by Textex
    It's people like YOU that are a large part of the reason I haven't made much [visible] headway since 2005.
    MY "guess" is you find blaming others for your shortcomings easier than accepting responsibility for your lack of results and actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Textex
    That's why we need to change our tactics to stir things up.
    Says the man who has , in his own words "been blogging about Amway and other MLM scams since 2005" and yet dares to suggest OTHERS need to change tactics

    You never did get to finish that book you bought all those years ago, did you, Textex ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Textex
    As the saying goes, keep doing what you've been doing and expecting different results is a definition of insanity.
    Quote Originally Posted by Textex
    I haven't made much [visible] headway since 2005.
    But, it's everybody elses' fault, isn't it Textex ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    But, it's everybody elses' fault, isn't it Textex ???
    How could it be anyone elses' fault? They can't be doing much - they are too scared to make a simple phone call! LOL

    By the way, ALL of your guesses are wrong, but that doesn't surprise me in the least. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Textex View Post
    How could it be anyone elses' fault? They can't be doing much - they are too scared to make a simple phone call!
    Once again, you don't know what people are doing and have done.

    You can continue to go 'round and 'round the mulberry bush saying people are "scared" but you simply don't know and cannot know if that is the reason

    The fact no one wants to talk to you on the phone or Skype does NOT equate with them being "scared"

    Quote Originally Posted by Textex
    By the way, ALL of your guesses are wrong
    I don't expect them to be right. They're "guesses" just like all of the reasons you have given for why people won't bend to your will and do things your way.

    I'm a great believer in the Occams' Razor theory of problem solving.

    My "guess' would be a great many people find you to be you're a self opinionated pain in the a** and simply don't WANT to have anything to do with you or your methods and being "scared" has nothing to do with it.
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    Occam's razor indeed. All that typing just because you're scared to make a simple, confidential phone call. AND I like the doing nothing quote to, fits you perfectly! LOL
    Last edited by Textex; 04-11-2014 at 08:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Textex
    just because you're scared to make a simple, confidential phone call.
    Here's the thing.

    You can continue to post the same "scared" thing over and over and high fiving yourself every time you think you've scored a point and it makes not the slightest bit of difference.

    No matter how many times you repeat it, you have no idea why people make a choice to have nothing to do with you, by phone or otherwise.

    The "you're scared" tactic may have worked for you back in grade school, but, it's time you grew up and realized it doesn't work for you any more.
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    Here's the thing.

    Occam's razor - you're scared. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Textex View Post
    Here's the thing.

    Occam's razor - you're scared. LOL
    My fathers' bigger 'n your father and you are scared of spiders.

    Could you get any more childish ???

    Amway must be quaking in its' collective boots at the thought of facing off against that sort of juvenile responses.

    Come to think of it, your response says a lot about why you've been blogging about Amway since 2005 with such little success.
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    I can't get any more childish, but you can, you're scared to pick up a telephone. LOL

    YOU are the one who brought up fathers and spiders. LOL

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    quod erat demonstrandum
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    quod erat demonstrandum
    Such a big term for such a little, round, "man" LOL...who is afraid to make a simple phone call. LOL AND you have only proven you're scared to make a simple, confidential, phone call. LOL

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    Yep,

    that often happens when I'm faced with phoning someone of such obvious intellectual superiority and with a grasp of the language so much greater than mine.

    So, you can "LOL" your way back to your highly Google ranked and incredibly effective anti Google blog, content in the knowledge you've had a win.


    OOPS,

    sorry,

    "highly Google ranked and incredibly effective"

    that was nasty and below the belt wasn't it ??
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    Yes, that was below the belt. Do you think you can reach all of the way up to my knee? LOL

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