I have not been over there at scam in at least three or four months, nor will I. It was starting to get decent over there when we has people like Soapboxmom, and Bibleman moderating over there. Even though I have not gone over there in quite some time, I can only imagine how bad things are. The last time I was there a long time ago, they were attacking you a life aloft. Only because you were not posting there regularly like you used to do. I just don't go over there any more.
Shame is, scam.com could of been a pretty good place to go, though they kicked out most of the people trying to make it a better place, like Soapboxmom.
Now scam.com is a place devoid of good Mod's and it is full of viruses. I would recommend to all to avoid that website.
The trolls took over, and the mods cannot will not stand against them, the wimps.
You are not kidding about the viruses thing. Everytime I have just gone there and I never log on, my Web Root software goes crazy and starts blocking and quarantining all kinds of stuff and starts putting out alerts. I am serious. It happens every single time now. This never happens on any other sites that I go to. Another good reason not to go there. Lisa still runs her mouth about me from time to time over there. She is the drama queen of beating a dead horse and pretending to be Miss Inncocent when she is nothing but a huge **** stirer. You say something to her, she has a fit. You ignore her, she has a fit. lol I've never seen a woman as revengeful and nasty as her in my entire life. I haven't had anything to do with her in many, many months nor will I ever. I expect no less from these cretins, though in all reality. They behave like complete assholes and when you get fed up and tell them off they whine and cry and do the poor little me thing and attack you for giving them back exactly what they deserved in the first damn place. Long live the scum from scam. lol
Perhaps someone can help me out here.Originally Posted by Doyle
Try as hard as I might, I can't find any reference to this being a forum which encourages fraudsters to put their point of view as to why they choose to indulge in their particular flavour of scam.
While some forums which will remain nameless, such as SCAM.com may find it useful to give forum space to those who support fraud in all of its' many forms, I have been under the impression this forum was designed more to inform, rather than being just "another" forum full of snake oil salesman hiding behind "healthy debate" to peddle their misery.
I don't know about any of the other contributors, but I am under no illusion my posts can or will change the world. Nor do I wear my underpants on the outside of my leotards and claim to be more powerful than a locomotive.
Personally, I'd much prefer to be "effective" than spend countless hours being "right"
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Chris Doyle knows full well all viewpoints are welcome here. Frivolous nonsense and sneaky soliciting won't fly however, so our little scammer boys haven't bothered to come over here yet. They would rather hang out with the porn spammer and his dishonest bunch of Mods.
Their brand of deflecting and attacking other posters character instead of the topic at hand is not welcome here either. This forum was designed as a place for healthy debate and education.
We posters have had and will have a tremendous impact. I have battled many scammers and quite enjoy the good fight. More updates on that will be coming.
Soapboxmom
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This video Doc posted over yonder makes it abundantly clear why Vitamark should be getting a whole lot more media and enforcement agencies attention. This is one of the sleaziest solicitations ever!
Besides the FDA, FTC and numerous other enforcement agencies, these scammers should be worried about litigation in civil court. If the mark pays money for the opportunity or product based on these representations and / or those bogus medical testimonials the rep is in legal jeopardy. Those are the representations that are emptying folks pockets and I can assure you from my personal experience they will be at issue. One can easily spend tens of thousands in legal fees and whatever was used to induce the sale is likely to be fair game.
http://www.pyramidschemealert.org/PSAMain/news/AmwaySuedasPyramidScheme.html
FTC declarations have stated that if the majority of the money used to pay the "upliners" is gained primarily from the purchases of the downliners – not from their retail customers – the payments are de facto payments for recruiting. In such cases, the "business opportunity" is not to sell the MLM products but to recruit others into the "business opportunity" in an endless chain. Endless chains are considered "inherent frauds" since they cannot deliver on their promise of income to any but a few at the top; the vast majority are doomed from the start to financial losses; and the schemes must use deception to lure consumers into nearly certain financial losses.
The FTC also says:
SoapboxmomYour Responsibilities
If you decide to become a distributor, you are legally responsible for the claims you make about the company, its product and the business opportunities it offers. That applies even if you're repeating claims you read in a company brochure or advertising flyer. The Federal Trade Commission advises you to verify the research behind any claims about a product's performance before repeating those claims to a potential customer.
In addition, if you solicit new distributors, you are responsible for the claims you make about a distributor's earnings potential. Be sure to represent the opportunity honestly and avoid making unrealistic promises. If those promises fall through, remember that you could be held liable.
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Dallas College Richland Campus Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan / Not NASM Accredited / Out of State Tuition Nightmare!
Love some Bunny! I do!
ROTFL! We are famous!!! Realscam.com
Chrissie is such a dipshit. This is the first time I have looked over there in like 9 days. I have been flying an afternoon evening/night schedule all of last week, days all this last weekend and this week back to afternoons and nights and sleeping in the mornings. I've had three overnighters as well. I just got home an hour ago and am eating my dinner and it's fricking 11pm here. I will have my first day off in 13 days this coming Sunday. Yet I am supposedly posting over there day and night. I barely have time to keep up with my business emails. For the zillionth time, why doesn't the little pussy ask a Mod to check the ISPS and email addys. What is he afraid of? Oh yeah, that would be the truth. His greatest enemy. When the hell does he ever work.......at anything? Forget work, he has no job except gambling and trying to bilk the gullible......but when does he do anything else? He must be on the dole over there for a mental disability. I bet he has a chamber pot next to his puter! lol He's on scam 24/7 making dozens of posts a day. Talk about a shut-in with no life! Bejebus!
I guess the thread started by the Bodhi guy about him, that I just read, really got his tiny goat. lol And this nitwit thinks anyone with a pulse would want info from him about his cookie MLM and he thinks he is making a great impression on people. Way to represent a slimeball industry. He's doing all of us a huge favor. lmao Talk about kicking yourself in the ass. Gotta love it.
I am thinking we should take up a collection for some shock therapy treatments for the poor boy and send him a get well card care of his Mother's basement.
Last edited by A Life Aloft; 12-14-2010 at 02:27 AM.
Originally Posted by DoyleOriginally Posted by DoyleOriginally Posted by youguessedit
Man, I am quaking in my boots, lest my dirty little secret be found out,
Yep,
I cannot lie,
Debating Chris Doyle and his cohorts is s-o-o-o-o-o-o-o important I took the trouble to register a new name via an anonymous proxy, just so I can make sure I get my daily fix of slime.
P-H-E-W !!!!
I feel so much better now.
Megalomania complex causing you many problems there, Doyle ?????
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
ChrisDoyle is delusional. Everyone who abides by the rules and guidelines is allowed to post here. He and Heiney just don't have the good ol' southern gumption to post here. We do ask that posts actually have some real content and substance after all.
The IP question could be addressed so quickly if they would just contact Meri Widow. If all the posters are using dedicated IPs then the problem would be easily solved. Some using proxies will consistently show as a proxy from the same provider as one can read but not always post with the free ones and will be forced to pay to use a good one.
Remember this nut from scam I nailed:
Soapboxmom1Exposingyou
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1ExposingYou says:
Quote:
I saw your house today and I was not impressed!
Baby_boop
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Dallas College Richland Campus Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan / Not NASM Accredited / Out of State Tuition Nightmare!
Love some Bunny! I do!
I see a real moderator from over yonder is back after being absent for months. Scambuster is kicking @$$ and doing what needs to be done. ChrisDoyle's signature seems to be history again. Lady Mod gets a real charge out of the handsome and debonair Scambuster who she has met in person and she will delight in watching him work Doyle over as she wanted that clown gone herself. Scambuster banned him repeatedly and now NMH and I won't be able to rescue that pathetic clown. We only kept him around to keep the forum active. He was not contributing anything of substance, but runaway threads do benefit the porn spammer owner, George Dranichak, as he is only in it to make money.
Keep giving Chris rope folks and he will be shown his permanent walking papers by Scambuster I would bet!
Soapboxmom
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Remember this little gem from Frank Furter???
Len Clements and I have been e-mailing back and forth about this particular issue. It is nice to know that Lenny has such classy friends. Again, I can say that folks reading the info available online couldn't draw this conclusion from it. This Frank Furter clown has given away way to much. It will be quite entertaining to investigate all this further.Now SBM is suggesting on her site I am guilty of a felony for posting this! Ironic, considering she made a life out of doing the same, strike that, much worse here for 5 years. But hey, I'd be upset too if 5 years of my lifes work were wiped out like hers was here at scam.... only to lose.....
In any case, I'm not going any where and I'm not threatened by her or anyone else here. I will not post on her wannabe site because we all know she will just lie and make things up like she always has done in the past here to somehow suggest I am someone I am not. But just for clarification, I've never been involved in an MLM and find them to be scams for the most part, believe it or not.
It is also interesting that little weiner boy never came over here and did not post after 11/2/10 over yonder. Think he is worried about certain authorities or judge's raining on his little parade??? The poster responsible for www.heatherdobrott.com did have a lot to say about that. I would bet my life that they are the same person and I do intend to get to the bottom of this. Tragically, many family members and friends of the creep(s) behind this nonsense are going to have their lives ruined as well. Small time scammers can sure cause massive destruction.
Soapboxmom
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Dallas College Richland Campus Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan / Not NASM Accredited / Out of State Tuition Nightmare!
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12-13-2010, 08:18 PM
scambuster
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Reality
Posts: 2,534
Re: Mona Vie
Why hasn't somebody banned this Chris Doyle? Are we just keeping him around for amusement?
#579
12-13-2010, 08:20 PM
Re: Mona Vie
Quote:Originally Posted by Anonymous Aussie
Chris - in real world business, it isn't necessary to "be your own best customer" and self consumption is NOT a viable business option.
LOL! How's that work in the liquor business?
#580
12-13-2010, 08:53 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8,533Re: Mona Vie
Quote:Originally Posted by scambuster
Why hasn't somebody banned this Chris Doyle? Are we just keeping him around for amusement?
Banned for what, because you dont like someone's views?
Thats what SBM did over at realscam.com, and look what's happened there.....one post a month, and all the posters back here with different names.
Before you get rid of me, you better check with the site owner, he might not want this forum going dead.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------Before scammer Len Clements destoyed that place, there were many good dedicated Mods that were working. Now, Chris is correct that his garbage keeps the forum alive, but it is only benefitting the porn spammer owner and driving the prospects away from MLM in droves. Those folks who are serious MLMers all go pump each other up at mlm.com and most are clearly unhappy with the crap ChrisDoyle and Ohein56 are posting. It destroys any shred credibility the industry could hope to have.
Scam was clean as a whistle back in the day. Ohein56 had been banned and ChrisDoyle was told the insults would no longer be tolerated and that posts with substance would be the only ones welcome. Now, it is simply a free for all for the brainless MLMers on the planet. Anyone wanting information will certainly avoid that circus side show. I wonder how long it will take before Scambuster sends those losers packing and lets that porn spammers disaster disappear into obscurity where it belongs??? Scam will never be anything of value except for those looking for mindless amusement.
Soapboxmom
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Dallas College Richland Campus Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan / Not NASM Accredited / Out of State Tuition Nightmare!
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I know we shouldn't encourage the lad - except maybe to get some professional help.
But it's just so darn much fun pushing his buttons and rattling his chains to see what new level of stupidity he can rise to.
He breaks new boundaries each day.
I'm sure Lenny is proud of him - he trained him well.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Yeah, I suppose so.
ChrisDoyle rambled on mlm.com
The poor clueless lad can't seem to see that his irrational and embarassing behavior on Scam just hurts his stated cause of supporting MLM. I notice he is very civilized and tame on mlmdotcom. His usual Scam antics would get him banned immediately. They wouldn't be allowed over here either. The folks left on Scam must get some perverse pleasure from watching him and Heiney self destruct in public. Why VitaMark allows him to represent them after the charity fiasco he brought to the attention of the public in particular boggles the mind. ChrisDoyle's mouth is quite a lot faster than the two working brain cells he has left.
Sopaboxmom
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You've got it in one.Originally Posted by SBM
Why keep a dog and bark yourself ???
Just press the button, then sit back and relax and watch them do the work for you.
What's more, it works without fail, each and every time.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
I can tell folks exactly why Ohein56 (Kerry Lee Hein) and ChrisDoyle left Scam. Scambuster popped back on and removed Chrissie's signature and he is mad as a hornet. Those fools only hang out over there in hopes of finding a brainless warm mark for their supposed "legitimate MLM" crap. If Chris can't recruit then there is no reason for him to continue to do his floor show there. He will take his act elsewhere. Way to go Scambuster!!!
Soapboxmom
P.S.
Not only did Doyle's signature get zapped, but scamboy got himself banned.
12-13-2010, 08:18 PM
scambuster
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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Posts: 2,536
Re: Mona Vie
Why hasn't somebody banned this Chris Doyle? Are we just keeping him around for amusement?
#579
12-13-2010, 08:20 PM
scambuster
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Reality
Posts: 2,536
Re: Mona Vie
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymous Aussie
Chris - in real world business, it isn't necessary to "be your own best customer" and self consumption is NOT a viable business option.
LOL! How's that work in the liquor business?
#580
12-13-2010, 08:53 PM
ChrisDoyle
Banned
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8,528
Re: Mona Vie
Quote:
Originally Posted by scambuster
Why hasn't somebody banned this Chris Doyle? Are we just keeping him around for amusement?
Banned for what, because you dont like someone's views?
Thats what SBM did over at realscam.com, and look what's happened there.....one post a month, and all the posters back here with different names.
Before you get rid of me, you better check with the site owner, he might not want this forum going dead.
Last edited by Soapboxmom; 12-17-2010 at 11:21 AM.
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Dallas College Richland Campus Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan / Not NASM Accredited / Out of State Tuition Nightmare!
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Darn!
And I was just about to start a new thread: "Should Network Marketers Be Allowed To Reproduce?".
I wanted to elicit some serious discussion on the subject, but now that Doyle appears to be gone, I guess I'll have to put that one on the back burner for awhile as there's no one there to defend the position that they should be allowed to breed.
(Heiney has no actual experience so his view doesn't count.)
Where was the administrator extraordinaire, Len Clements, when his MLM buddies were in such peril? Ooooops, Lenny got the royal bootsky already, didn't he?! The Three Stooges and their guru ring master now have no floor for their show!!! Hilarious!!!
Soapboxmom
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I caught up a bitover there late last night and discovered that IamAWilly's sig was also removed. He then made a real little pathetic, woe is me, girly post on like 5 forums (what a drama queen) about leaving the site. lol I'll bet he was warned by Scambuster, and had his sig line removed, so he packed up his toys and fled like the coward that he is. He pulled the same stunt on here when cornered like the lying, phony rat that he is. Poor little Heiney is now having another meltdown over there about his two cohorts demise. I love it!!! Two down, one to go!!!
There probably has been not a soul on the planet who has joined more MLMs, pissed away more money and made no money to speak of on MLMs, than Kerry. He doesn't have the money to get involved in any more scams. He's failed in her personal life, failed at every MLM he has joined and has to be the biggest liar and loser (even just edging out IamAWilly) to have ever posted over on the cesspool. Hell, he "worked" SOC for years and didn't make diddle. Yet, he will continue to defend them and all MLMs with his dying breath. Talk about a Fatal Attraction syndrome. Maybe his poor wife simply became fed up with supporting his drug of choice (MLM), listening to the lies and bullshit and going to work everyday to support him while he sits on his lazy worthless ass drinking and posting on Scam day and night.
Last edited by A Life Aloft; 12-17-2010 at 02:39 PM.
Wait, make that 2 to go.......the phony Frog delusional nutcluster, Doublewide's personal mascot, is posting on the MLM forum forum now. That place has become complete worthless embarrassment.
BTW Heiney's sig line is six lines now, isn't two lines the rule? He needs to be reported. lol
He posted this, this morning and I almost fell outta my chair. "It's amazing the influence and power one member (ChrisDoyle) has over scam.com.So vast and awesome". WTF??? I detect a little man love thing going on there. Poor Heiney....he's been jilted. ROTFL!
Last edited by A Life Aloft; 12-17-2010 at 02:52 PM.
That Other Site Sinks To A New Low - Even When You Thought That Wasn't Possible
Not sure how many have been following developments over yonder. Chrispy's banned, Willy ****** said he's leaving. That leaves O'Heiney to hold down the fort for the MLM faction.
But just when you think that ass clown couldn't act more retarded or sink further to a new depth of asshatedness, somehow he finds a way.
Witness the exchange over there today. Heiney trundled that famous "f" word out of his vocabulary box again. I call him a sick *******. Then walksthedogs chimes in:
O'Heiney 's response?
Of course, I'm not about to respond to comments like that.
How do you respond anyhow to someone that's obviously such a truly sick and disturbed individual?
Just posting this to show what type of individuals network marketing seems to attract.
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