The official "MoneyMakingBrain makes a fool of himself" thread

[ProfHenryHiggins]

OK, you must have PMed me from Scam.com and that's how I received your email. Anyway, if you want to email me the LRM knows the address.

I recall PMing you once, but I never received a reply.

[MoneyMakingBrain]

I recall PMing you once, but I never received a reply.

I was banned from there.

[littleroundman]

(please show me a link or a record of that, otherwise)

Why ???

What difference would it make ???

Who cares what or whether you believe ??

Frederick Mann is a criminal running an illegal HYIP ponzi scam.

Freddie Mann is offering an impossible to attain 2% daily interest rate, JustBeenPaid is a fraud,

There is no "innocent until proven guilty" on an internet form.

There is no need to provide "proof" to internet trolls.

We couldn't be lucky enough for Freddie Mann, MoneyMakingNutter or anyone else to actually take any form of legal action.

It just ain't gonna happen.

The only variation from the script which exists is when the collapse happens.

Everything else (ESPECIALLY MonkeyBrains' prognostications are mere froth and bubble)

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MoneyMakingBrain......endangered species

[MoneyMakingBrain]

Why ???

Don't know, you tell me.

What difference would it make ???

It doesn't really. No one cares about this forum except you.

Who cares what or whether you believe ??

Obviously you do, otherwise you wouldn't be constantly replying all my posts.

Frederick Mann is a criminal running an illegal HYIP ponzi scam.

That's your opinion and opinions are like butt holes, everybody is got one.

Freddie Mann is offering an impossible to attain 2% daily interest rate, JustBeenPaid is a fraud,

Impossible??? Nahhh....but what can one expect of someone who doesn't even understand the immorality of fractal banking?

There is no "innocent until proven guilty" on an internet form.

You must mean on THIS internet "forum"....

There is no need to provide "proof" to internet trolls.

It's funny that you think I am a "troll" in my own thread. BTW, you aren't doing too bad yourself.

We couldn't be lucky enough for Freddie Mann, MoneyMakingNutter or anyone else to actually take any form of legal action. It just ain't gonna happen.

Quite frankly, I don't think Fred Mann would care to sue online forum users who talk nonsense about him. I certainly don't have "cause of action" to do so either and nobody has a clue as to who I really am anyway.

The only variation from the script which exists is when the collapse happens.

Oh yeah, the highly anticipated "collapse" that never happens.

Everything else (ESPECIALLY MonkeyBrains' prognostications are mere froth and bubble)

If you say so......

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MoneyMakingBrain......endangered species

Uh ha....very few of us left indeed.

[littleroundman]

awwwwwwwww,

the child has run out of coherent arguments and has to revert to what he knows, answering questions with questions.

Tell me, MonkeyBoy, do you win many arguments at recess or lunch time like that ???

Or are we in for a round of "My dad is bigger 'n your dad and I'm not scared of spiders" type comebacks from the 'brain ??

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MoneyMakingBrain....we had such high hopes

[MoneyMakingBrain]

Freddie Mann is offering an impossible to attain 2% daily interest rate, JustBeenPaid is a fraud,

Oh, I forgot to say that just because you can't see how easy it is to accept people's deposits, delay their pay-outs, force them to lend you more money and borrow from the credit lines linked to your payment processors, it doesn't mean it's fraud.

It would be "fraud" if JBP defaulted to its agreement with all members which it hasn't done.

[MoneyMakingBrain]

awwwwwwwww,

the child has run out of coherent arguments and has to revert to what he knows, answering questions with questions.

I am only making questions to your silly questions....and what's up with the "child" thing???

Tell me, MonkeyBoy, do you win many arguments at recess or lunch time like that ???

Actually, I used to play basketball at recess and ruined my pants every week.....I had a happy childhood, how about you???

Or are we in for a round of "My dad is bigger 'n your dad and I'm not scared of spiders" type comebacks from the 'brain ??

Who, me??? Nahhh.....

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MoneyMakingBrain....we had such high hopes

Don't lose hopes......

[littleroundman]

It would be "fraud" if JBP defaulted to its agreement with all members which it hasn't done.

Actually, that's totally inaccurate.

A "ponzi" is a fraud from the moment it accepts its' first cent.

It is "more" of a fraud when, as is the case with Frederick Manns' "JustBeen Paid" where the fraudster takes money under false pretenses, i.e. builds a story around the non existent business.

Which is why the word "ponzi" doesn't appear in court documents, other than as a descriptive term to describe the type of fraud.

Instead, any charges are more likely to be "fraud" and "wire fraud" and "conspiracy"

[MoneyMakingBrain]

A "ponzi" is a fraud from the moment it accepts its' first cent.

A ponzi is either legal or illegal. While you can argue ad nauseum that JBP is a "ponzi", there isn't in reality moral background to classify JBP as such.

A fraud on the other hand is a false representation of a matter of fact. I haven't seen any misrepresentation on the JBP web site and I've listened Fred Mann talk many times to users explaining exactly what they are getting involved in and what their payout will be. It would be "fraud" if Fred suddenly represented that he will not be able to pay out any more and doesn't return the money, or if he mysteriously disappears.

It is "more" of a fraud when, as is the case with Frederick Manns' "JustBeen Paid" where the fraudster takes money under false pretenses, i.e. builds a story around the non existent business.

What I said above.....BTW, if you don't believe that JBP is hard work and it is run as a "business" (a real online money market program, that is), then we'll never gonna see eye to eye on this subject.

Which is why the word "ponzi" doesn't appear in court documents, other than as a descriptive term to describe the type of fraud. Instead, any charges are more likely to be "fraud" and "wire fraud" and "conspiracy"

Agreed. But, mark my words, it's gonna be hard for any "court" from any nation to pin that term to JBP, let alone trump those charges up.

[MoneyMakingBrain]

BTW, LRM

I am sure you know that the way to shut down JBP is simply by compelling its processors to close its merchant accounts. Ask yourself, if it's that easy, why it hasn't been done?

[littleroundman]

Google "Suspicious Activity Reports" and "Bank Secrecy Act" and read up on how the Andy Bowdoin investigation and subsequent prosecution was carried out.

Ooops, sorry, I keep forgetting,

"Get someone to help you read up on how the Andy Bowdoin investigation and subsequent prosecution was carried out"

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MoneyMakingBrain....two heads are better than one.

[littleroundman]

Here ya go, Laddie,

have a go at this when you've got some spare time:

[MoneyMakingBrain]

Google "Suspicious Activity Reports" and "Bank Secrecy Act" and read up on how the Andy Bowdoin investigation and subsequent prosecution was carried out.

LRM, for someone who purports to be Australian, you give too much importance to US legislation. Who cares about the SAR and the BSA when you are not even within the US jurisdiction (i.e., JBP doesn't have to answer to US bureaucrats)?

The United States of America doesn't own the world, the Fed does. It has become a morally bankrupt country though.

Don't forget the fed is comprised by both very powerful American and European banks and it can't be audited. The real masters of the Fed are too busy consolidating their power around the world. One day you're gonna wake up and you're gonna find out that your currency is worth half what it used to. One day you're gonna be angry that you seem to be just a poor working man, your children will be even poorer, and your anger won't be at JBP

In the big scheme of things, JBP is just a fly to them, but if you want to talk "conspiracy", then talk about the mother of all conspiracies.

[littleroundman]

Oh, dear,

we're going down the the old illuminati/suppress the plebes/Rothschild route.

Can't be long now.

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MoneyMakingBrain....a Festa by any other name.

[okosh]

awwwwwwwww,

the child has run out of coherent arguments and has to revert to what he knows, answering questions with questions.

He ran out 80 pages ago....

[MoneyMakingBrain]

Oh, dear,

we're going down the the old illuminati/suppress the plebes/Rothschild route.

Was there ever a choice??? You can only be a master or a slave, so the question is which one you want to be.
Hint: those who deny the existence of what you've just alluded are usually slaves.

Can't be long now.

It's not.

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MoneyMakingBrain....a Festa by any other name.

UncleFesta??? Nah, he is a funny guy.....

[Finix]

Don't forget the fed is comprised by both very powerful American and European banks and it can't be audited. The real masters of the Fed are too busy consolidating their power around the world. One day you're gonna wake up and you're gonna find out that your currency is worth half what it used to. One day you're gonna be angry that you seem to be just a poor working man, your children will be even poorer, and your anger won't be at JBP

In the big scheme of things, JBP is just a fly to them, but if you want to talk "conspiracy", then talk about the mother of all conspiracies.

All of this is nice and well, but participating in fraud like JPB isn't going to liberate any of the poor little people since they haven't got a clue how to do it successfully. On the contrary, it's going to make them worse off.

[MoneyMakingBrain]

All of this is nice and well, but participating in fraud like JPB isn't going to liberate any of the poor little people since they haven't got a clue how to do it successfully. On the contrary, it's going to make them worse off.

First of all, it's not all "nice and well" to me and many more millions of people around the world who are now aware of, or becoming informed about the arrogance by the financial oligarchy class.

Second, JBP is no more a "fraud" than the system of fractional reserve banking, which moves money (around, back and forth) while penalizing you when you withdraw deposits and most importantly, it foments the stagnation of depositors' money.

Third, all this goes without saying what Central Banks do in the US and Europe to create more fiat money.

Fourth, the BSA act of 1970 that the LRM presented above, which is more like an excuse by the US federal government to prosecute companies or individuals who create unregistered wealth accumulation programs like JBP (and that are mainly subject to regulation in the US only), is morally bankrupt by the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 (please, read my previous posts). That's saying, there is no moral background to tax, regulate and "protect" any business or program using a self serving 1970 act that was forged after a deceptive one (the Fed act of 1913). Sadly, the anecdotal significance of such act of 1913 has not been fully digested by the American people and the legal and moral implications are continuously ignored until today by all nations.

Fifth, it's not a "fraud" because a group of people, you included on this forum, say it is. A fraud is, plain and simple, a "misrepresentation". Something that I challenge you to submit proof of that JBP has allegedly done.

Sixth, while JBP has not had a single BBB complaint on file that I know of (correct me if I am wrong) or charges filed against it by the FTC and the SEC, the jury is still out on JBP, so until then, we should be talking about its performance, not its cash velocity. That's saying, JBP can indeed turn out to be a "fraud" the minute it defaults on all its payment obligations and magically disappears.

[littleroundman]

Oh, dear, more conspiracy theory and other unmitigated nonsense from whichever MonkeyBoy is posting today.

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MoneyMakingBrain....lost cause

[Finix]

Second, JBP is no more a "fraud" than the system of fractional reserve banking, which moves money (around, back and forth) while penalizing you when you withdraw deposits and most importantly, it foments the stagnation of depositors' money.

This right here is BS. If your poor little people can't figure out and use the system the rules for operating are well known, they have no chance in hell figuring out the system where the rules are not spelled out anywhere.

[MoneyMakingBrain]

Oh, dear, more conspiracy theory and other unmitigated nonsense from whichever MonkeyBoy is posting today.

"More conspiracy"??? No my dear Mr. LRM, it's all the same......but this is the mother of all "conspiracies".

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MoneyMakingBrain....lost cause

Never give up on people :)

[Finix]

Fifth, it's not a "fraud" because a group of people, you included on this forum, say it is.

No, it's not. It's fraud because Fred is running it as fraud.

[MoneyMakingBrain]

This right here is BS.

Alright, show me why.

If your poor little people can't figure out and use the system the rules for operating are well known, they have no chance in hell figuring out the system where the rules are not spelled out anywhere.

Wah wah, wait a minute....this has nothing to do as to whether people should understand how a "system" works (they should) but most people don't even know what happens to their money once its deposited in their banks. Yet, you don't see anybody calling banks a "ponzi" (well, there are people who actually do so, but for good reasons).

Let me ask you a question Finix, do you understand how fractional-reserve banking works?

[MoneyMakingBrain]

No, it's not. It's fraud because Fred is running it as fraud.

That's you opinion, based on assumption and also meritless of any legal action. There would have to be at least pending prosecution and charges files against Fred, which none of them, best to my knowledge, there exist (and if it ever gets that far).

So, how is the weather in your neck of the woods, Finix?

[Finix]

That's you opinion

Yep, it's my opinion. Having said that, I don't have a problem with people making money off of fraud, Fred including.