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    The official "MoneyMakingBrain makes a fool of himself" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Here he is, that international man of mystery.

    Or, should that be "International Frederick Mann of mystery"


    Frederick Mann, himself:

    Is it REALLY "Frederick Mann" is it some poor guy whose picture has been hijacked, or, is it Freddy as he was back in the 1960s or 70s ??



    This site says it is young "Fred"




    http://bloggingfornetworking.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Frederick-Mann-JSS-Tripler.jpg
    Yes, I agree with all of you and I've also heard that Fred is going to commit career suicide by running away with all the money in a special rocket ship built by NASA going to Mars (and payed with this "Ponzi" scheme).

    Seriously, consider the facts:

    Fred Mann, does exist.
    Fred Mann is a wealthy man indeed.
    Fred is a not crazy, maybe a bit of a dreamer, but not insane.
    Fed is a an older guy, who's been around the block a few times (done this, done that).
    Fred knows more about math than all of you put together, maybe he didn't write "the code" or "the math" himself, but he is behind all this.

    Why is this sustainable?
    Because there are 'restarts'. Sure, if you were in the middle of one cycle earning $200 per day, you could be restarted and have your daily cash earnings slowed down to $40/day, that is, until you compound more in the coming weeks. Regardless, that still pisses people off, but they don't lose their money.

    The problem for me is not whether this is sustainable, or not. Nothing is "sustainable" in life, so don't be naive, that's a physical impossibility. One look on the cosmos and you know that.

    The problem for me is what's going to happen when the general public is made aware of, in spite of you, governments, the FTC and FCC, etc.

    Will they have to add to do more restarts more often and at a lower interest rate in order to cope for the big demand?
    How would the matrix deal with the massive demand for new positions, otherwise?
    Will they have to lower the interest rate gradually?
    How would that be perceived among investors?
    Would this create more matrices promising more?
    Would JBP lose popularity and be forced to end?
    Everybody knows that any losers will be those running positions on the last 75 days of the matrix.
    The question is, will Fred announce the end of it and payback/payout these people if this should happen?

    As you can see I am way ahead of you. Maybe year 2014.

    The reason why things are not sustainable, though, has nothing to do with Fred or the folks behind JPB.
    I predict that Just Been Paid will be victim of his own success and just like Facebook who grew and grew (and continues) because of its user base, it will die because of its lack of advertisement dollar value. BTW, if someone ever made real money with Facebook ads, please show me those screenshots.


    So, before these business systems collapse, the writing will be on the wall. But, I give JBP at least a couple of years, maybe a few more. I could be wrong, of course, and the matrix will grow, the decline , then stabilize. Remember, there is still that company called AOL. The most important thing to keep in mind is that you can bank on the fact that Frederick Mann is behind it. The man has good intentions and has dreams of a better, more financially free world. Good luck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain View Post
    Yes, I agree with all of you

    yada,

    yada,

    yada.

    But, I give JBP at least a couple of years, maybe a few more.
    Cool,

    While we're waiting, my unicorn is looking for a new home.

    $2000 Alertpay or Liberty Reserve and he's yours:



    Oh, and I have a bridge for sale:

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Well then,

    you'll never be as rich as Frederick Mann, will you ???

    Anyway, you're just an anonymous name on an internet forum.

    While Frederick Mann, he's a.................err, he's done...................umm, well he's well known for his......................................anyway, he's, he's, he's.............................................. ........

    Hmmnn, better ask "moneymakingbrain" what he's done, he seems to know young Freddie personally.

    Surely MMB isn't just parroting stuff he's read around the usual suspect forums, he MUST have met Mr Mann.
    There is a conflict of interest here and you, as an "administrator" should take a more unbiased role. Be a wise man: be moderator and keep your opinions to yourself. When you do speak in your own forum, speak from a place of knowledge not speculation, if we are going to be talking about another man, who you don't even know, that is.

    Last but not least, don't let people see how you disrespect strangers ("Freddie") because it only weakens your position, not the other way around.

    If you don't know who Frederick Mann is, just go to BuildFreedom.com -- Free World Order
    Then ask yourself, would a man who advocates for universal freedom (since 1997) would engage, let alone mastermind, the creation of a program that is going to devastate the lives of thousands of people?

    Now, moderate, Mr. "Administrator".

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    With the greatest of respect, "MoneyMakingBrain" you're talking like an internet newbie who is about to be ripped off to within an inch of his/her life.

    You've typed a lot of words, but what proof have you provided ??

    There's a website.....so what ???

    "Administrators should take a more unbiased role"
    Err, hello ??? Is this the United Nations ?? Is there some sort of Universal Bill of Rights in operation here I haven't heard about ??

    "don't let people see how you disrespect strangers"
    Ummn, I "let" people see how I disrespect Freddie, because I DO disrespect Frederick Mann

    He he's run several get-rich-quick schemes and he is behind a HYIP ponzi fraud which rips off innocent and naive people.

    Not only do I "disrespect" him, given half a chance, I'd beat the bottoms of his feet with sharp sticks until his nose bleeds.

    In fact, "disrespect" is too mild a word.

    "contemptuous of" goes close.

    "Hope he gets prosecuted" ain't half bad.

    as for:

    "Then ask yourself, would a man who advocates for universal freedom (since 1997) would engage, let alone mastermind, the creation of a program"


    How about YOU ask Bernard Madoff the same question, then report back with his answer ??

    You've undoubtedly heard the expression "wet behind the ears"

    You, my young friend are positively dripping down the back of your neck if you think ANYTHING you've posted WRT Frederick Mann and/or Just Been Paid is anywhere near the truth.

    Everything you've said is straight out of the "HYIP Ponzi Newbies' Handbook" IOW, you've said NOTHING you haven't been told BY THE FRAUDSTERS.

    Posting about HYIP ponzi scams is good for the self esteem.

    It's IMPOSSIBLE to be wrong.

    The only variable is the time span.

    2 months and we'll never see or hear of Just Been Paid again.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    With the greatest of respect, "MoneyMakingBrain" you're talking like an internet newbie who is about to be ripped off to within an inch of his/her life.
    Speak for yourself. I have done due diligence. That said, I'll be more than happy to read your investigative reports, see your evidence, verify your findings about Fredrick Mann and his business on the web.

    Quite frankly, just by reading your posts to me, I have more doubts about your character and integrity than Fred's.

    Now, please show what you've got on Fred that I've completely missed here.

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    Thanks Baylee.

    While that was an interesting read, I am not concerned about the opinions of the CIA. or the Italian authorities. That court case is not surprising to me at all. I am interested in performance, credentials and results. So if you're trying to make a point based on Ponzi schemes history, or a court case that has no legal base (9 months old), then look for Frederick Mann. If you do just that, you'll find out that is a lot easier to contact, maybe even talk to directly (e.g., go to one of his web conferences) than finding out who the real guy behind PatrickPretty.com
    is.

    FYI, JustBeenPaid is a legal company, represented by a real law firm. If you're doing due diligence and not reading what anonymous authors say, you will call this lawyer and ask: Why are you risking you entire law firm by associating yourself with someone who is doing Ponzi and committing a crime? Do that and find out what a "REAL" professional making more money than all of you put together (or you wouldn't be posting and talking amongst yourselves in this thread as much as you do) has to say about Fredrick Mann. I am not saying that there is no chance that something may go wrong and JBP won't succeed in this incredible undertaking, I am saying that I doubt that someone with such a view on the world and humanity would actually contemplate creating one of the biggest scams the world has ever seen and go down in history that way.

    He's got money for crying out loud, I just can believe in the idea that he decided to ruin his life and go to jail just to make a few more millions. If Warren Buffet was behind all of you would be already running positions Ponzi scheme or not.

    I guess time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain
    contemplate creating one of the biggest scams the world has ever seen and go down in history that way.
    You poor, poor child.

    You really HAVE been taken in hook,line and sinker, haven't you ??

    You haven't just drunk the KoolAid, you're swimming in it.

    Mate, this HYIP doesn't even make it to the top of the list of biggest scams THIS YEAR, much less one of the biggest the world has seen.

    For goodness' sake, don't you get it ??

    You don't "know" anything.

    Your so called "due diligence" is what people whose business experience is what they see on TV and read on HYIP forums call "due diligence"

    It is NOT, in any sense the "due diligence" done in the real world.

    All you know is what you've been told or read on a website.

    Fred says he has a lawyer does NOT equate to due diligence.

    Fred says he's a millionaire does NOT equate to Fred actually being a millionaire.

    "Due diligence"
    my a**

    You wouldn't know "due diligence" if it jumped up and bit you on the nose.

    The only surprising thing is that you haven't used the words "libel and slander" in defending the creep.

    That's normally the next stage of the scam.
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    How classy of you. And now you have to resort to abusive tactics (editing out what I have to say and showing what's convenient to you). I have as much interest in getting to the bottom of this as you do, the difference is, while you base your point in your personal opinions about past Ponzie schemes and your irrational hate to a man you don't even know, I am, at least, asking the right questions. I was also just replying another user, and you have (administrator or not) no moral right to intervene this way and be tampering with my posts.

    The only thing you've proven to me is that you are an abusive administrator and your name "little man" is fitting. Get off your moral high horse.

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    Umm "tampering with your post ????

    Who has tampered with your post ??

    Your post wasn't touched.

    As you have less than 5 posts, the forum software automatically submits your post for approval as an anti spam device ESPECIALLY if said post contains URLs as yours does.

    Approval was given, and your unedited post appears exactly as written by you.

    You obviously failed to recognize the reason your post was held up and resubmitted another post the same/similar to the first.

    As for your no "moral right" claim.

    This is a forum known as REAL SCAM.com

    It's purpose is to expose and discuss "scams"

    The only immorality here is that being displayed by the slimebucket Frederick Mann and Just Been Paid and its' sycophants.

    Further, if you don't find me to be arrogant, condescending, critical and abusive, either I'm not trying hard enough or you're missing the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman
    Approval was given, and your unedited post appears exactly as written by you.
    So you now expect me to believe that the PHP script failed to post my entire reply, yet, it only resolved a section of a line in a paragraph that I wrote? Umm...something must be wrong with your BB script.

    Well then, unlike you, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.

    Here is what I posted before (see what you replied to in bold):

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain
    Thanks Baylee.

    While that was an interesting read, I am not concerned about the opinions of the CIA. or the Italian authorities. That court case is not surprising to me at all. However, I am interested in performance, credentials and results. So, if you're trying to make a point based on past Ponzi schemes, history, or a court case that has no legal base (9 months old now), then look for Frederick Mann. If you do just that, you'll find out that is a lot easier to contact, maybe even faster if you talk to him directly (e.g., go to one of his web conferences) than finding out who the real guy behind PatrickPretty.com is.

    FYI, JustBeenPaid is a legal company, represented by a real law firm. If you're doing due diligence and not reading what anonymous authors or posters say, you will call this lawyer and ask: Why are you risking you entire law firm by associating yourself with someone who is doing Ponzi and allegedly committing a crime? Do that and find out what a "REAL" professional making more money than all of you put together (or you wouldn't be posting and talking amongst yourselves in this thread as much as you do) has to say about Fredrick Mann.

    I am not saying that there is no chance that something may go wrong and JBP won't succeed in this incredible undertaking, I am saying that I doubt that someone with such a grand view on the world and humanity would actually contemplate creating one of the biggest scams the world has ever seen and go down in history that way.

    He's got money for crying out loud, I just can't believe in the idea that he decided to ruin his life and go to jail just to make a few more millions. If

    Warren Buffet was behind this, all of you would be already running JBP positions, Ponzi scheme or not.

    I guess time will tell.
    So, that's what I said to your user "Baylee".

    Look, I don't care if you are the only one posting, or talking to yourself on your own forum. I am only interested in getting real proof that Fred is done something real dirty. If you do that, and with irrefutable proof, you'll find that we could be formidable allies, and I have the power to stop what Fred is doing on his tracks. You don't know me littleman, so stop making further assumptions about me. You are not even invisible to me. I already know all of your IP addresses in Perth to track you down on the web. If I choose to, I can find out your real name, but I'm not interested in you. You can do the same of course, but it will lead you to a legitimate organization based in Brooklyn, NYC.

    So get real, stop resorting to the use of your antics to make a point, and help me find out if Fred is really going to do something unexpected; not by ranting out loud against him like a silly juvenile, but with undeniable proof of any scam that you believe he is been involved with.

    Thank you,
    Last edited by MoneyMakingBrain; 02-18-2012 at 11:32 AM.

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    Mate,

    I think you're confusing me with someone who cares whether you do or do not invest with Frederick Mann.

    In fact, please DON'T believe me.

    Mortgage your house, sell the farm, advise your parents to invest their superannuation and pensions with Just Got Paid.

    I stand to lose or gain nothing, either way.

    As for providing adequate "proof" to satisfy your requirements, I'd be pretty disappointed in Fred if such "proof" was freely available on the 'net.

    This is a forum for discussion of fraud and fraudsters. If we or I don't satisfy your requirements, fine, don't listen, go to the TALKGOLD or moneymakergroup[/B].com/]MMG or any of the other HYIP ponzi forums.

    They will appreciate your "due diligence" skills and will doubtlessly supply you with all the inside info on Freddie and Co.

    "Proof" will be available when and if JustBeenPaid is prosecuted and investigators get "inside" the company.

    As for your thinly veiled threats of tracking me down, go for it.

    In fact, why don't you track me down, pass the info along to Freddie and encourage him to get this slander and libel into court where he can explain to the judge exactly how his multi squillion dollar business works and sue me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyMakinBrain
    So you now expect me to believe that the PHP script failed to post my entire reply, yet, it only resolved a section of a line in a paragraph that I wrote? Umm...something must be wrong with your BB script.
    Umm, err,

    why would what you posted be any different than post #245 which is 5 posts back HERE and how was it altered ???
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    I think you're confusing me with someone who cares whether you do or do not invest with Frederick Mann.

    In fact, please DON'T believe me.
    Why doesn't your reply surprise me at all? If you've got no concerns about people getting scammed while you claim to be the "REAL" scams forum, then what are you doing here? Do you have a day job? Are you hoping to drive more traffic through scandalous posts via Google? The truth is, I don't care about your opinion at this point, and I would advise anyone reading this, to take what you've said ("confusing me with someone who cares") face value. You are only interested in being correct about somebody who you don't even know.

    So, until then, he is innocent until proven guilty. Mind you that, everything I've posted is being mirrored back to another site forum and is being read by many more people. So, deleting or cutting parts of this post, will only confirm the kind of individual I suspect you really are.
    Last edited by MoneyMakingBrain; 02-18-2012 at 01:12 PM. Reason: not going there

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    Thanks Baylee, I appreciate your civility and thank you, but what you said doesn't really help me much. I am really more interested in hearing the opposite; posts that indicate that nobody is getting their fifty thousand dollar payout (remember, everyday, supposedly, there's a cycle that expires), I'd be interested to investigate even a $100 loss. I am actually sending spies daily to monitor that site, and there is something we found rather disturbing right now, not a game over kind of thing because it could be easily explained. But, we're just getting a bit impatient and still waiting on their answers, so stay tuned, we'll see. If I find dirt on Fred that I can really make a case against him, he's finished, count on it.
    Last edited by MoneyMakingBrain; 02-18-2012 at 06:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain View Post
    Thanks Baylee, I appreciate your civility and thank you, but what you said doesn't really help me much. I am really more interested in hearing the opposite; posts that indicate that nobody is getting their fifty thousand dollar payout (remember, everyday, supposedly, there's a cycle that expires), I'd be interested to investigate even a $100 loss. I am actually sending spies daily to monitor that site, and there is something we found rather disturbing right now, not a game over kind of thing because it could be easily explained. But, we're just getting a bit impatient and still waiting on their answers, so stay tuned, we'll see. If I find dirt on Fred that I can really make a case against him, he's finished, count on it.
    You say you are not interested in the CIA ( I have no idea what the CIA has to do with this ) or the Italians (Consob) (your words) but want to make a case and have answers and dirt on Fred, I would think that the Italians (Consob) would be a logical starting point. Read the forums as history always repeats itself. This scam is/will be no different. I think you have an agenda and time will see what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain View Post
    Why doesn't your reply surprise me at all? If you've got no concerns about people getting scammed while you claim to be the "REAL" scams forum, then what are you doing here? Do you have a day job? Are you hoping to drive more traffic through scandalous posts via Google? The truth is, I don't care about your opinion at this point, and I would advise anyone reading this, to take what you've said ("confusing me with someone who cares") face value. You are only interested in being correct about somebody who you don't even know.

    So, until then, he is innocent until proven guilty. Mind you that, everything I've posted is being mirrored back to another site forum and is being read by many more people. So, deleting or cutting parts of this post, will only confirm the kind of individual I suspect you really are.
    Oh, believe me, I am concerned whether people get scammed.

    What I'm NOT concerned about is smartass posters who claim to have done "due diligence" while criticizing the quality of advice they're being given.

    I'm NOT concerned about the potential losses of anonymous posters who give not so subtle hints about being part of some group of international spies while talking the sort of nonsense normally employed by HYIP ponzi pimps.

    I can say with confidence you and your "friends" have no experience in this area.

    Your "due diligence" simply isn't.

    Your threats are hollow.

    Your naivete is obvious.

    You ignore, in fact, decry the actions of respected agencies such as CONSOB.

    IF, and I repeat IF, I was doing this to make friends, I MIGHT be ever so slightly concerned by your criticism.

    The information is there, use it or don't.

    It's your decision and your money.
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    Littleman, you're trying desperately to provoke my anger with your comments, but what you don't realize is that you don't interest me at all. Once again, you don't have a clue as to who I am. However, here are the facts: You are either operating multiple sock puppets or meat puppets accounts in violation of your own terms, either way you've been playing me all along. You have to get your dictator syndrome checked out (before you lose your mind).

    You must be, at least, little scared of me, little man, because you had to resort to the use of ip proxies to hide your actual location, which as you know, we have already established beyond any shadow of a doubt is in Perth, Australia. So, apparently you came into this thread at 8:38 AM and your mate "Baylee", who against all odds, posted only few minutes apart before you, even though >mysteriously< between the hours of 8:38 AM and 9:03 AM the only person in this thread was YOU.

    We've been laughing out loud on the other forum as we can see you for who you really are. But, regardless of the fact that you use this forum to talk to yourself (mainly) and to express your incredibly ignorant views, and libelous comments about a man who you hardly know, you have indeed provided us with valuable information, only, not in the way you think.

    Thanks LittleMan.

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    HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa HaHaHaHaHaHa

    What a funny li'l fella you are.

    Not only don't I "have a clue who you are" I don't care who you are.

    You came into someone elses' house not only DEMANDING answers to your questions but DEMANDING said answers be provided in a way that suits you.

    What's more, you then start using the sort of pseudo legal babble usually reserved for use by fraudsters themselves.

    The more you post, the greater the amount of nonsense you excrete.

    So, you have basic IP tracing skills, whoop-de-doo

    Now, drill downand tell me which one of my internet providers' 520,000 subscribers Australia wide I am.

    Then tell us all exactly what you intend to do with the information.

    The end result will be, Frederick Mann and Just Got Paid will STILL be HYIP ponzi frauds and hundreds, if not thousands of innocents will STILL be defrauded and "MoneyMakingBrain" will be long gone, along with the thousands of other blowhards who have threatened, bluffed and blustered their way through this scam, just as happens with every single one of them.

    As for your reference to "libel" I reiterate:

    GO AHEAD AND DO IT.

    GIVE MY NAME TO fred, FRED, Freddie, Frederick Mann and/or Donald Duck.

    I WANT YOU TO.

    I AM DELIBERATELY TRYING TO PROVOKE YOU.

    I WANT TO GET THIS INTO COURT.

    I WANT FREDERICK MANN AND/OR HIS LEGAL REPRESENTATIVES TO FACE THE DISCLOSURE PART OF THE PROCEEDINGS.


    The fact that "MoneyMakingBrain" even hints at "libel" or "slander" being in any way possible tells me with 100% certainty that "MoneyMakingBrain" is, in fact a nobody with delusions of grandeur.

    Just ANOTHER one of the thousands of wouldbes-if-they-couldbes who bluff and bluster their way 'round the world of HYIP ponzi scams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain
    You must be, at least, little scared of me, little man, because you had to resort to the use of ip proxies to hide your actual location, which as you know, we have already established beyond any shadow of a doubt is in Perth, Australia. So, apparently you came into this thread at 8:38 AM and your mate "Baylee", who against all odds, posted only few minutes apart before you, even though >mysteriously< between the hours of 8:38 AM and 9:03 AM the only person in this thread was YOU.
    Matey,

    DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT attempt to use your new found detective skills to try and gain employment.

    You are so bad at it, you'll be laughed out of the waiting room of any prospective employer.

    Tell, me, oh internet guru, exactly which "proxy" service am I supposed to have used.

    As for your theory about me being "Baylee" ...........I won't embarrass you any more than you have embarrassed yourself with your ineptitude

    You certainly ARE funny, though, I'll give you that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain View Post
    You are not even invisible to me. I already know all of your IP addresses in Perth to track you down on the web. If I choose to, I can find out your real name, but I'm not interested in you. You can do the same of course, but it will lead you to a legitimate organization based in Brooklyn, NYC.
    Welcome "(big)Mumu" to real scam...(Yes I worked out who you are)....Things a little quiet over at your house so you thought you'd come trolling here??....

    Do carry on as it's always fun to watch as LRM kicks a scumbags arse....
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    which one of my internet providers' 520,000 subscribers Australia wide I am
    You are using a Windows computer with a Firefox/10.0.2 browser.

    Here are more details:

    inetnum: 203.206.0.0 - 203.206.255.255 (I am not writting your exact IP address in order to protect you)
    netname: IINET-AU
    descr: iiNet Limited
    descr: Locked Bag 16
    descr: Cloisters Square, WA, 6850
    country: AU
    admin-c: NO20-AP
    tech-c: NO20-AP
    remarks: For abuse/UCE issues, please mail abuse@iinet.net.au.
    status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE
    mnt-by: APNIC-HM
    mnt-lower: MAINT-AU-IINET
    changed: hostmaster@apnic.net 20010816
    changed: hm-changed@apnic.net 20031017
    changed: hm-changed@apnic.net 20031208
    changed: hm-changed@apnic.net 20040726
    source: APNIC

    person: Network Operations
    nic-hdl: NO20-AP
    e-mail: apnic-admin@staff.iinet.net.au
    address: iiNet Limited
    address: Level 1
    address: 502 Hay Street
    address: Subiaco WA 6008
    phone: +61 8 9214 2222
    fax-no: +61 8 9214 2211
    country: AU
    changed: noc@staff.iinet.net.au 20110328
    mnt-by: MAINT-AU-IINET
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    Tell, me, oh internet guru, exactly which "proxy" service am I supposed to have used.
    65.98.111.155

    I hope this helps.

    Do something more productive with your time, son. Now if you'd excuse me, I got bigger fish to fry.

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    Re: justbeenpaid

    You really, really are a silly child, aren't you ???

    Does your mummy know what you're doing in your bedroom when she's not looking ??

    Here ya go:



    SO BLOODY WHAT ???


    I swear, every time you open your mouth you make yourself look more clueless.

    You know I'm using Firefox.............wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooo, that's scary

    AND I'm using Windows........................................dam n, now you've got me petrified.

    So, now you know everything about me, what are you gonna do with the information.

    I can just imagine the conversation when you slither back under your rock i.e. run back to your HYIP ponzi forum"

    "Hey, guys, guess what, littleroundman uses iinet, lives in Perth, and uses Windows and Firefox and I've got him scared"

    Like WOW !!

    Send for Maxwell Smart. Summons Batman. Call out the National Guard.




    Child.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: justbeenpaid

    OMG, my sides are still hurting from laughing at the genius moneymakingbrain's posts. Some don't know when to come in out of the rain. The old adage "A fool and his money are soon parted" keeps coming to mind.

    Some never learn it is one thing to be thought a fool, and another to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Talk about a newbie trying to sound intelligent.
    EagleOne
    Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com

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    Here ya go, "MoneyMakingBrain"

    we know all about you:


    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: jsstripler2

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain View Post
    F[r]ed is a an older guy, who's been around the block a few times (done this, done that).
    Andy Bowdoin of AdSurfDaily, who advertised half the return rate of Fred and virtually the same commission structure as JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, was an "older guy" who'd "done this, done that," too. His Ponzi trial is set for September 2012. He faces up to 125 years in federal prison if convicted on all counts of wire fraud, securities fraud and selling unregistered securities.

    When the Ponzi trial begins, Bowdoin will be only a few months shy of his 78th birthday. (Ponzi schemer Richard Piccoli was sentenced in 2009 to 20 years when he was 83 years old; Bernard Madoff was 71 when sentenced to 150 years in 2009. Judge Chin, according to the New York Times, described Madoff's crimes as "extraordinarily evil." Part of Madoff's scheme was making people believe the "profits" they received came from something real. In the end, it proved to be the case that Madoff simply created numbers on a screen to fleece the masses.)

    Madoff Sentenced to 150 Years in Prison - NYTimes.com

    In the "done this," category, Bowdoin was at the helm of a securities swindle in Alabama in the 1990s. He was charged with felonies, but avoided jail time back then by agreeing to make restitution. Despite his narrow escape, Bowdoin launched ASD. One of his business partners was a man implicated by the SEC in THREE prime-bank swindles. The Feds -- as was the case with Madoff -- said Bowdoin simply created numbers on a screen to swindle the masses.

    Meanwhile, in the "done that" category, Bowdoin told ASD members that the seized money belonged to THEM, but he told a federal judge that it belonged to HIM. Also in the "done that" category, Bowdoin stockpiled some cash offshore in an account under a different name, according to the Feds. He also routed "several million" through Canada. (The names of AlertPay and SolidTrustPay both are referenced in the ASD litigation. JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid also uses AP and STP.)

    Fred was a pitchman for Bowdoin in 2008. That means, at least in theory, that he could become a target of a clawback lawsuit to return his purported earnings from ASD, meaning that it's possible that Fred could get dragged into the ASD litigation while he's actively running JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid. Beyond that, its is known that the ASD criminal probe is ongoing.

    Fred's ad for ASD ran on his BigBooster site, which also promotes JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid. Payments from JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid come from an email address assigned the BigBooster domain. I'd say there is a high probability that funds from ASD are commingled with JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid funds. And the probability is even higher -- virtually 100 percent -- that JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid funds also are commingled with funds from all sorts of scams, including Club Asteria.

    Like Fred, Club Asteria's Hank Needham also was a pitchman for ASD. And like JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, Club Asteria promoters also came under the lens of CONSOB.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain View Post
    I am not concerned about the opinions of the CIA. or the Italian authorities.
    To the best of my knowledge the CIA hasn't offered an opinion. CONSOB, however, has ventured that JSS Tripler promoters are conducting an illegal offering of securities. IMHO, that's an opinion you should care about. You are free to dismiss my opinion, of course -- just as you are free not to be concerned about CONSOB's opinion.

    BTW, do you know if Fred is helping the JSS Tripler promoters named in the CONSOB action mount a defense? If so, how can they be assured that any money he fronts them is not tainted by fraud proceeds that originated, say, through JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid promoters who set up shop at TalkGold and MoneyMakerGroup -- after earlier using TalkGold and MoneyMakerGroup to flog Club Asteria and CherryShares, which is referenced in a securities action in Canada?

    Fred's well is tainted, to be sure. I'd say that any JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid promoter who gets named in an action in ANY jurisdiction or is sued by his/her upline is going to be on their own.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain View Post
    Why is this sustainable? Because there are 'restarts'.
    ASD had restarts, too -- i.e., it licensed itself to slow down or restart the Ponzi at a time of its choosing in anticipation of an influx of new funds. In effect, ASD licensed itself to treat liabilities as assets through private accounting tricks -- otherwise known as the Enron problem. Like JSS Tripler/JustBeedPaid, ASD also called it payouts to members "rebates." Like Like JSS Tripler/JustBeedPaid, Club Asteria, CherryShares and many more "programs," ASD also had a presence on the Ponzi boards.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain View Post
    I have done due diligence.
    This is good, although it seems to clash with your statement that you're not concerned about what CONSOB thinks. In any event, please share what your due diligence taught you about where Fred/JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid do their banking and the name of their CPA/accounting firm. Also: Please share the names under which they conduct business at the offshore (non-U.S.) processors and the accounts they use to pay for things such as hosting and domain registration. While you're at it, please share the name of their attorney and his/her bar-registration data, along with the registration data with the SEC for offerings and broker-dealers.

    If you have time, please explain why certain JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid sites suddenly have gone offline in the United States in the wake of the CONSOB probe -- and why members should not be concerned about that. I'd say that is the minimum information any JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid promoter would need to possess if making claims he/she had performed "due diligence."

    Of course, they also might need to explain in some real-world way how Fred can pay returns that are between 48 and 73 times higher annually than the returns Madoff "realized" -- all why explaining why JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid makes members affirm they are not government spies or media lackeys.

    As things stand, it looks very much as though JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid is expending an invitation to join an international financial conspiracy. "Due diligence" also might require members to acknowledge that the Legisi HYIP had terms similar to JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid with respect to the affirmations about no government or media involvement -- something the SEC gladly showed a federal judge in Michigan when it went after Legisi in May 2008.

    During that same month, the SEC also went after Gold Quest International, which purported it was immune to U.S. law -- i.e., outside the reach of law enforcement -- because it somehow enjoyed sovereignty in Las Vegas (U.S. soil) that somehow had been extended to it via Panama and across multiple U.S. state lines by an "Indian" tribe in North Dakota. Like JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid, GQI also purported to have an attorney. That "attorney" now is in federal prison through Dec. 10, 2018. His name is Michael Howard Reed. It turns out he wasn't really an "attorney."

    PPBlog

    P.S. The Feds also went after Pathway to Prosperity and Nicolas Smirnow -- and even brought in two experts to explain why the "program" was pure fantasy. The "returns" of P2P are in the same ballpark as JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid. P2P also had a presence on the Ponzi boards, as did Imperia Invest IBC, which the SEC said scammed deaf people by the thousands.

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